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Miss Marple

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Re: Tesco / ASDA !!!
« Reply #578 on: August 09, 2011, 08:24:29 PM »
We had our arranged meeting with Andrew Stunnell and it went well, he has pledged his support which will run alongside MARPLE IN ACTION     The mins of the meeting are being typed and when they are ready Belle MIA Secretary will put them on the forum.  
         all ready on the forum .from Marple civic society .
Hi Amazon this was a different meeting, there have been three different meetings today. MBF and the Civic Society are all members of MIA and we are all working and attending meetings on different things and then we share information at a larger meeting.  There are lots of things going on that requires different people to attend different things but we are working well as a team and by working together we are stronger MM

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Re: Tesco / ASDA !!!
« Reply #577 on: August 09, 2011, 08:15:10 PM »
We had our arranged meeting with Andrew Stunnell and it went well, he has pledged his support which will run alongside MARPLE IN ACTION     The mins of the meeting are being typed and when they are ready Belle MIA secretary  will put them on the forum. 
           all ready on the forum .from Marple civic society .

Miss Marple

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Re: Tesco / ASDA !!!
« Reply #576 on: August 09, 2011, 08:12:43 PM »
We had our arranged meeting with Andrew Stunnell and it went well, he has pledged his support which will run alongside MARPLE IN ACTION     The mins of the meeting are being typed and when they are ready Belle MIA secretary  will put them on the forum. 

Miss Marple

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« Reply #575 on: August 09, 2011, 08:03:33 PM »
The MIA Action Line has been busy today and it appears that lots of residents are organising their own  residents meetings and using it to inform neighbours who do not have Internet use, of all the up to date information and of  the rally on 20th Aug at 2 pm starting in the precinct.   The  press will be there once again to cover the event and we are trying to get the local TV news interested, so do come along, and show all that need to know that MARPLE SAYS NO TO A SUPERMARKET ON HIBBERT LANE!  Also don't forget MIA are out and about again every Sat in Aug collecting signatures to add to the Hundreds we already  have.   The messages and offers  of Support have been fantastic but we have a long way to go. 

Smithy166

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« Reply #574 on: August 09, 2011, 06:47:46 PM »
I have received a letter in response to my own from Andrew Stunnell-he has set up his own campaign - Get the College to Think Again - and has suggests we all join his campaign-I have a form to complete and return to him but will imagine he has an online petition on his web page.  Not had the chance to check yet but will do so-at least he is supporting our opposition to a large supermarket!
Thats both good and bad news,
Good news is that he is supporting us, bad news is that he wants us all to jump on his band wagon, which, lets face it, is going to polictically motivated. If he wants to get involved then great! but he should join MAR, not the other way round!

Maria

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Re: Tesco / ASDA !!!
« Reply #573 on: August 09, 2011, 06:00:05 PM »
I have received a letter in response to my own from Andrew Stunnell-he has set up his own campaign - Get the College to Think Again - and has suggests we all join his campaign-I have a form to complete and return to him but will imagine he has an online petition on his web page.  Not had the chance to check yet but will do so-at least he is supporting our opposition to a large supermarket!

Miss Marple

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« Reply #572 on: August 09, 2011, 11:59:20 AM »
MARPLE IN ACTION are having a meeting this afternoon with Andrew Stunnall MP.  The outcome of that meeting will be posted later today on the Forum.

Miss Marple

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« Reply #571 on: August 08, 2011, 06:35:45 PM »
The leaflet that went out with the Civic Review is informing the community who do not have use of the Internet.  The Action Line has had 25 calls in 3 hrs mainly from residents who had heard a rumour but nothing else.  The leaflet that explains the current situation is now getting a response, people who have taken calls today on the Action Line from concerned residents have, as well as giving up to date information, have informed  the callers  about the Protest March on 20th August at 2pm.   

PLEASE INFORM AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU CAN BECAUSE WE WILL BE JUDGED BY THE ATTENDANCE


RWW

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« Reply #570 on: August 08, 2011, 06:29:24 PM »
My brother witnessed windows being replaced at the Hibbert Lane campus today. Expensive looking job apparently.
Doesn't sound like pre-demolition work

Miss Marple

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« Reply #569 on: August 07, 2011, 02:15:38 PM »
There have been two lots of bids

Tesco came first  ASDA second in the first bid
ASDA came first  Tesco second  in a second bid

Now I don't profess to be knowledgeable in this kind of thing and our insiders in the college believe it or not is worse than me, hard to believe I know  :-\.  But to me a lay person in things concerning any type of Business  dealings, I think it means that Tesco came first on the bid because it had planning ? But Asda came first on the second round because the second round was without planning ?
Please do not shoot the messenger, as you can imagine we are asking a lot from people to drip feed us information from inside the college and their jobs are at risk so information just comes out in bits and bobs and the people providing the information can not and are not expected to understand some of the information the provide us  Maybe someone out there understands the two bid system and can explain this new piece of information  ???  
Well at least I was able to pass this information on to ASDA first hand  on Thursday when I spoke to their head office.  :D


alstan

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« Reply #568 on: August 07, 2011, 01:25:51 PM »
Thank you JMC, Dave, Pink Panther and sgq for you comments. I don’t think the opening of a supermarket in Marple will have a huge impact on existing food retailers as the bulk of Marple’s food is already purchased outside the area and those who support the specialist local retailers, be it because they wish to support local shops, or pay a premium for personal service, or seek a quality or products not usually available elsewhere, are almost certain to continue to do so. The more specialist retailers might be more vulnerable when, and if, the supermarket moved into non food product ranges.
 Having said that, Altricham has a Tesco a similar distance from the town centre; it opened some years ago but has just reopened following expansion. Despite its proximity to the town, or, perhaps, because of it, Altrincham town centre appears to prosper.
As far as the Hanbury’s site is concerned I had assumed that the reason the Co-op bought it was to reduce the risk of a Sainsbury Local or Tesco Express opening in Marple.
With regard to the potential size of any development, Handforth Dean and Portwood, the site with which Hibbert Lane is often compared, are Tesco Extras. The term “supermarket” seems to be no longer used by Tesco and their outlets at Glossop and Whaley Bridge are “Tesco Superstores”. I don’t think there is any chance of a store the size of an “Extra” being even contemplated in Marple, whatever the size of the site. It would be commercially insane and would fail the planning requirements on several grounds. I suspect that, exactly as happened in Glossop and Whaley Bridge, a modest superstore would come first with limited expansion when, and if, the need became clear. OK the faux rural architecture adopted by supermarkets is a bit twee but is still preferable to the slabs at Glossop and Whaley Bridge
I completely agree with sgks that the non payment of corporation tax is wrong. I assume, however, that what Tesco has done is completely lawful and is for the benefit of shareholders (including our pension funds). In that case the fault lies not with Tesco but with the law which should be changed.
I have followed the link to “many independent studies” and would make two comments.
Firstly, all the research quoted relates to the USA and Wal-Mart in particular. Different considerations may arise in this country and I wonder if you are aware of any similar research in the UK?
Secondly I cannot see that in any case is the source of funding stated and am not, therefore, clear as to why it is necessarily independent research.

sgk

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Re: Tesco / ASDA !!!
« Reply #567 on: August 06, 2011, 10:27:22 PM »
Some good points raised there by alstan but I'd like to comment on a couple of them.

...Comparisons have been made between the potential site on Hibbert Lane and Tesco’s Portwood store but it seems ridiculous to suggest that they would consider a “superstore” in a suburb (aka”village”) of this size. They would be far more likely to build a more modest store and retain the ability to extend it if, and when, its value to local people has been established .Reference has been made to the rather industrial architecture of Tesco Glossop and Whalley Bridge. Again that is unthinkable and I am sure that any supermarket that might win the day would adopt a faux rural design to please the villagers.

Many on the forum have no experience on what type of superstore would be considered viable, or what design would be adopted.  I'm not entirely sure that a "faux rural" design would necessarily please Marple folk though.  But regarding whether ridiculous to suggest it being a superstore, we do know that the overall site footprints of Hibbert Lane and Portwood are comparable.

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While on the subject of Tesco, we should bear in mind that, over the past 30 years, they have been one of the most successful of British companies and most of the people in this country will have benefited from their enterprise in some way. They have been a  significant constituent of most pension funds and one of the few consistent contributors to those funds. They employ almost half a million people. They contribute a proportion of their pre tax profit to charity.

While some corporate philanthropy is certainly a good thing, do remember that they stand accused by the Guardian of failing to pay £1 billion of corporation tax by weaving a complex web of offshore holding/parent companies and complex loan arrangements.  Daresay that a fair portion of that money would have gone to colleges such as CAMSFC !  And on the employment issue, there are many independent studies which suggest these "big box" supermarkets actually reduce employment numbers.

cheryl67lib

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« Reply #566 on: August 06, 2011, 07:54:29 PM »
I have also heard this about the swimming pool, which is old and very much in need of updating...but putting in a roundabout is just plain stupid. As for the post about libraries, we provide a valuble service to the public, not everyone can afford to buy books/dvds or has access to the internet. Also speaking as a library assistant (not Marple) ie those of us who run this service, we are fairly poorly paid for what we do and some of us have been replaced with self service points in recent months  :( >:(

Miss Marple

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« Reply #565 on: August 06, 2011, 06:17:41 PM »
Alstan we have now been informed again via a very reliable source from inside the college that its ASDA a very American company.   I did in fact get through to their land buyers and land surveyors on Thursday.  I don't know who was more surprised me or them.  I asked them to confirm or deny that they are purchasing or have an interest in the site and the official stated that it was too early At this stage to pass comment ?

Miss Marple

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« Reply #564 on: August 06, 2011, 05:20:23 PM »
Hi Alstan I am one of the founders of MIA and I take full responsibility for the fly posting   The police can easily contact me via the hot line which  would probably give us more publicity.  
 MARPLE IN ACTION have always encouraged people if they so wish to start their own group in favour of the proposed supermarket.  Please feel free to contact me via the hot line, the staff will take your details and I will return your call.    I will be happy to inform you personally about the meetings I have had with interested parties re this matter and that will give you information to make a decision based on an informed choice.  MM
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We will be meeting with our MP next week so more information will be provided