Tesco / ASDA !!!

[bat man]

Lets open a community biscuit factory,now what shall we call the marple biscuit

[BidingTime]

Its very hard to understand how anyone could think the roads of Marple would cope with the additional traffic a Tesco would bring  

The A626 is busy all the time (except maybe in the middle of the night) and to say it is only busy at rush hour does not make sense,eveyone knows how backed up that road is FOR HOURS (not just one hour rush hour) every morning (term time obviously worse) and how busy it is coming into Marple at anytime.
Add in extra traffic visiting the store,HGVs,deliveries all day/prob most of the night and its very hard to believe that Marple will not end up as a grid-locked/even noisier/more polluted town than it already is.

I suggest anyone who says Marple can cope with massive additional traffic tries to leave Marple every morning between 7.30am and 9.30 am and return anytime between 3pm and 6pm........do that for a full year in ALL weathers and then see if you have the same opinion.

The traffic issue is also before you bring in any affect on housing anywhere near the store/on routes towards it,chances of more anti-social behaviour at night in the area .........again imagine yourself in a house near the Hibbert lane site and see how you would feel about it.

If people drive to the proposed Tesco to shop they are not going to walk from Hibbert Lane into Marple to see the smaller shops or cafes etc .....why would they when Tescos will prob have a Cafe ? people very rarely walk anywhere now for any distance and they are not going to think after shopping......."Ohh i'll just walk down this congested un-interesting road to see a few shops or a canal"  
The majority will drive to Tesco-shop-drive home,job done.

As far as i can see for people that live in Marple the negatives far outweigh the positives,the only positive is it would give you more choice......why would anyone who lives in Marple think just that was worth all the traffic/housing problems added together with the very probable decline of a community feel with many local independant shops probably being forced to close.

[Miss Marple]

Thanks I will let you know as soon as the date has been arranged 

[neil f]

I will deliver in Hawk Green,Let me know when and how to get then.

[Miss Marple]

I have received a huge amount of interest via the mobile number I left on a post.   This has been given for people who have not got Internet and has been past on to them via this web site  I am hoping that this will be the so called hot line for people to contact Marple in Action and it will be widely advertised   Once again the number is 07790419494 please leave your name, telephone number and a brief message and someone will contact you back and will keep you informed About our next mass protest which will take place very soon. The turn out last night was fantastic, made me proud to live in such a supportive community BUT ! The next protest meeting will need to be even bigger, as Sky Guy said it's going to be a long journey, so we need to spread the word and keep one another informed and also remember to keep our older residents informed so that they can have their voice heard.  It was very difficult trying to deliver leaflets to the whole of Marple so sadly some people were not aware of the meeting, so next time if people could volunteer to do their street, office , school, park, shops etc it would be fantastic.  So we can get your names ready for our next leaflet drop can you phone the number above or send a personal email via this site which is very easy to do and I am sure one of our group will give an example of how to do it after this post.  I hope that does not sound patronising but if you are new to the furrow it may be something you have not done before.   So please help deliver leaflets which will inform of the next protest, hope to hear from you soon  

[Catwoman]

Can I just remind everyone that it within the College that this problem has started. I have it on good authority from one of the Marple in Action group who attended the meeting with the College yesterday  that the College applied for some funds to the then Learning and Skills Council in 2008 and were 2 weeks late with the application which has resulted in the current financial problem. I think someone at the College needs to be held accountable for this mess.

This now means that the rest of Marple has to suffer the consequences because of a late application. Now we are being held to ransom by thirteen college governors, some of whom have absolutely no connection with Marple, so they aren't going to be very sympathetic about what happens here.

At the risk of repeating myself, how has this been allowed to happen. They and Principal should resign in shame and a new board of governors should be elected, people who are competent and could help to sort this out.

[Dave]

I don't really see the college's case for new buildings, Oxford & Cambridge are the best in the country and they get by with reet old buildings.

I like it - nice point, though no doubt tongue-in-cheek!  Trouble is, as you must realise, Duke, the issue with the camsfc buildings is not their age - they are between 50 and 80 years old, AFAIK - as their poor quality of construction and unsuitable design.   Oxbridge colleges may have been built centuries ago, but they were very well built (to say the least!) and they are still being used for exactly the same purpose.   

[Duke Fame]

Welcome to the future, Jo!  The present government, just like the previous two, is is hell-bent on reducing the powers of local authorities, and one of the ways they have done this is by taking colleges and then, increasingly, schools, away from local authority control. Hence the various forms of non-LA controlled schools that we now have - foundation schools, academies, and (coming soon), 'free schools'.  These will all be very much like camsfc - no local accountability, only a freestanding board governors who can do whatever they like.

This is true and not beofre time in my opinion. THey are however, providing far more power to parish councils just removing power from hte town halls which have abused their powers somewhat in the past and we don't have to look too far to see it happening now.

School autonomy is not rally an issue, they must runt their organisation as efficiently as possible within the boudaries of the law. They will have to get plans past planning and that is where the pressure must be exhorted. In addition, how about parents withdraw their kids and send them to Aquinas until the plans are withdrawn.

 I don't really see the college's case for new buildings, Oxford & Cambridge are the best in the country and they get by with reet old buildings.

 

[marple_syrup]

And the a6 is obviously comparable in your minds to Hibbert Lane, or even to Stockport Road?
And Poynton, Bradford, Cheadle Hulme, even Hazel Grove are SO FAR RREMOVED FROM A MOTORWAY OR DUAL CARRIAGEWAY AS MARPLE?  Which was actually my question.  And I mentioned the Co-op myself!!
 Dave your speciality in particular is picking one word to undermine the essence of the argument.  If you seriously believe that the road network in Marple, meaning Hibbert Lane, Stockport Road, Wndlehurst Road, and Church Lane... ie. Every road that could be used to travel to the proposed supermarket... Is similar to the A6 in Hazel Grove, Macclesfield Road through Poynton, or the A57 that passes directly past the Glossop Tescos, you are absolutely deluded man.

All the stores mentioned are just as far from a motorway or dual carriageway as Marple. In fact they are further away. Marple is only 3 miles from a motorway.

As for the A6 and A57, they are far more congested than the A626 and were before the supermarkets were built. Both are at a crawl at most times of the day. The A626 is only busy at rush hour.

Don't want to turn this debate away from what we should be talking about, but Hibbert Lane is 4.7 miles from the M60 network.  The Sainsburys at Hazel Grove is only three miles from the centre of Stockport, and a lot closer to the main links out towards Macclesfield. 
So stop nitpicking Harry, especially if you're wrong.  Onto the element of traffic, The A626 at rush hour, when it matters to me, can be backed up beyond Lisburne Lane in Offerton.  Dooley lane is simply un-negotiable.
The A6 is by no means crawling through the day... When was the lt time you travelled on it, as I do daily in my work?
Do you think Marple is suited to a big new supermarket on Hibbert Lane then?  If you think the A626 is pleasant now, then you'll suffer more than most when Tesco arrives, Mark my words!

[NeilCorrie]

Apparently Poynton residents opposed Tesco successfully. Does anyone know anyone there?
They have of course got a Waitrose now, but it would be really interesting to know how they went about it.

The tescopoly website has some details of the Poynton defeat.  From my understanding Tesco wanted to demolish a listed old cinema, which was a complete non-starter.

[dawn]

I also heard that the baths and shop will be going so that a round-a-bout can be put there. I too am hoping that this was just a rumour 

[Basementlife]

In the paper, well virtual...
http://menmedia.co.uk/stockportexpress/news/s/1454010_supermarket-land-row-meeting-moved-to-park-after-room-proves-too-small-as-hundreds-attend

[Janneke]

Apparently Poynton residents opposed Tesco successfully. Does anyone know anyone there?
They have of course got a Waitrose now, but it would be really interesting to know how they went about it.

[Mr Marple]

Should Tesco be successful Marple will change and not for the better!

Marple will lose alot of its peaceful nature and the roads will become chockablock and will require alot of maintenance which costs money that the government doesn't have.

I can only hope that we, Marple residents, can give Tesco a good struggle.

[Harry]

And the a6 is obviously comparable in your minds to Hibbert Lane, or even to Stockport Road?
And Poynton, Bradford, Cheadle Hulme, even Hazel Grove are SO FAR RREMOVED FROM A MOTORWAY OR DUAL CARRIAGEWAY AS MARPLE?  Which was actually my question.  And I mentioned the Co-op myself!!
 Dave your speciality in particular is picking one word to undermine the essence of the argument.  If you seriously believe that the road network in Marple, meaning Hibbert Lane, Stockport Road, Wndlehurst Road, and Church Lane... ie. Every road that could be used to travel to the proposed supermarket... Is similar to the A6 in Hazel Grove, Macclesfield Road through Poynton, or the A57 that passes directly past the Glossop Tescos, you are absolutely deluded man.

All the stores mentioned are just as far from a motorway or dual carriageway as Marple. In fact they are further away. Marple is only 3 miles from a motorway.

As for the A6 and A57, they are far more congested than the A626 and were before the supermarkets were built. Both are at a crawl at most times of the day. The A626 is only busy at rush hour.