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alan@marple

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« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2005, 04:27:23 PM »
Usefull.

I do hope you are doing well with your "giving up". How have you gone on?

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« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2004, 04:54:53 PM »
Hi to All

Thank you so much for all your well whishes, It has been a big help for me to know that I have all this backing and after all the comments I made about smoking.

I did not plan to give up, I went to the doctors thursday 9th and she said I should give up and me being me told her stright that I would not give up because I would only put more weight on and that I did not need, but that night I ran out of cigs and had every intention of going to the shop first thing Friday, but on friday I had to stay in had a gas leak, any way by the time they came I had gone 2 hours without a cig so I thought I would see how long I could make it last, and I have still not had one.

I am very Happy with myself and I cant wait to see my doctors face on Thursday this week when I tell her.

Deniseam I dont know how I will be towards smokers, ( hope I am fair with them) But I do know now that as you say, you can smell a smoker before you even see them and yes they do stink or at least the clothes do.

Thank you all again for the backing '<img'>

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« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2004, 12:34:42 PM »
I'd like to echo what others are saying, Useful, very well done, I hope you can stick with it and join the growing ranks of ex-smokers.

I gave up 11 years ago now, at the age of 35, after 20 years of smoking and being convinced that I would never be able to kick the habit. I think the reason that ex-smokers have so little sympathy with people who say that they can't give up is because we KNOW it can be done........

At 40 to 60 fags a day, have you worked out how much money you've saved already?! Perhaps you should give yourself a treat on the strength of that   '<img'>
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Deniseam

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« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2004, 10:35:31 AM »
Well done 'useful'.  This should be interesting as ex-smokers can be rampantly against smoking - more than those who have never smoked......

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« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2004, 09:08:13 AM »
Thank you alan@marple

I am very proud of myself and I have already noticed a few things that are working better in my body.

I smoked between 40 & 60 cigs a day but for 1 week & 2days I have had none and I feel very good about myself.

Thank you so much for your reply, it made me feel good. '<img'>

alan@marple

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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2004, 07:27:01 PM »
Well done useful, be prouid of yourself

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« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2004, 05:55:53 PM »
Hi to all

Just to let you all know that I useful have just done a full week of not smoking, but before you ask, it had nothing to do with that letter that Alan wrote nor did it have anything to do with Deniseam?.

I have taken this step purely for my own health, I am having a bad time but I have found I have got will power after all and I will not give in.

I will soon be one of the none smokers of Marple.

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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2004, 02:24:45 PM »
Brilliant stuff Alan - lets hope 'Useful' learns something that will make her think seriously about quitting.

alan@marple

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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2004, 09:10:14 AM »
I got this off the net. especially for the Ladies

 Smoking and Your Skin
  The marketing world, fashion magazines and Hollywood movies may be working overtime to make smoking look like a glamorous  
practice of chic people, but for your skin, it’s a habit that is anything but beautiful.  A grayish, suffocating complexion, creases, furrows, and lines around your mouth and eyes, and nicotine-stained nails, not to mention skin cancer, are just a few of the legacies smoking leaves on your looks.

In fact, smokers have a nearly five times greater chance of being crisscrossed with a roadmap of wrinkles than those who don’t smoke. Wrinkling and a less than glowing complexion are such prominent side effects of lighting up that in 2001 Germany used this fact as one of its main reasons for women to quit during its annual anti-smoking campaign.

Researchers have suspected as far back as the mid 1800s that smoking can damage your looks and lead to the bluntly stated “smoker’s face.” Today, doctors and researchers, and probably you too, can pick a smoker out of crowd even without a cigarette dangling from their lips because well, they look like smokers. Part of that may be due to the fact that for every ten years of smoking, your face ages 14 years. So, if you start smoking in high school, when you’re popping champagne corks at 50 your face will actually be celebrating it’s 62nd birthday. Alos, if you have a non-smoking identical twin, the changes are even more obvious. Identical twin studies have revealed that smokers have thinner skin, more gray hair and more facial wrinkling than their smoke-free counterpart.

If you’re one of the estimated 3,000 teens who become regular smokers each day, consider this: you won’t have to wait until middle age to see the damage that puffing away can do. A study by dermatologists in Seoul, Korea and published in the International Journal of Dermatology, reported that smokers are three times as likely to develop unsightly lines and creases, and that premature wrinkling caused by smoking can show up in people as young as 20 years old. What’s more is that their wrinkles are twice as rough and pronounced as those found on their non-smoking peers.

If that doesn’t stop you from lighting up, researchers in New Zealand found that those who picked up the habit in their teens already had gum damage by their 20s no matter how great their oral care habits were.

So how does smoking do its damage? In a couple of ways. One, it messes with the microvasculature (the circulatory pathways nourishing, oxygen rich blood uses to get around) of your skin. After a regular smoker has a cigarette, it takes about five minutes for this system to recover. Researchers speculate that this constant assault, sort of like suffocating your skin from the inside, adds to the smoker’s face phenomenon.

Researchers in both England and Germany have also found that smoking triggers matrix metalloproteinase 1, or MMP-1, an enzyme that destroys collagen. Collagen, which makes up about 70 percent of your skin’s weight, is the elastic, spongy network of fibers that essentially creates the skin’s structure. When you destroy collagen, you wreck the architecture of your skin and what you are left with is a ruin of sagging and wrinkling.

Just the physical action of smoking, pursing your lips around the cigarette and squinting your eyes to protect them from the smoke, over and over and over, pack after pack, adds up to lines creeping out around your lips and crows feet radiating out from around your eyes. The nicotine in cigarettes can also act as a diuretic, draining your skin of moisture leaving it looking parched and drawn.

Perhaps the most damaging effect smoking can have upon your skin is the formation of squamous cell carcinoma, a serious form of skin cancer. Researchers at the Leiden University Medical Center in the Netherlands studied about 1,000 people and discovered that those who smoked more than a pack a day saw their squamous cell carcinoma risk more than quadruple. Think you are in the clear if you don’t finish off a pack every day? Think again. The study showed that if you polish off a half to a full pack your risk triples versus a non-smoker. Those who just dabble, smoking ten or fewer cigarettes a day, bumped up their risk two and a half times. Quitting can help dial down your risk. Former smokers had just under twice the risk factor as those who didn’t smoke at all.

While the study didn’t show an increase in the scarier form of skin cancer, melanoma, squamous cell carcinoma is still a dangerous situation, and having the lesion removed is no walk in the park and can leave a scar or worse.

If you’re also baking yourself in the sun hoping for a nut brown tan while lighting up a cigarette there’s even more bad news. Researchers published a study in the Lancet that looked at the usually-in-the-dark buttock skin of volunteers and found that the smokers’ skin was already producing MMP-1, the collagen destroying enzyme also thought to be responsible for sun damage, before their skin was even exposed to damaging ultraviolet light. That’s right, they were basically creating sun-damaged skin without the sun. The upshot is that if you are tanning and smoking (remember each year of smoking is 1.4 years of aging), you are compounding the situation.

What can you do to undo the damage wrought by smoking? Well, the first thing is, obviously, to quit. Within hours, even minutes, your body’s functions begin to return to normal which benefits your skin by supplying it with plenty of oxygen and nutrients. You may be able to tackle some of the finer lines and wrinkles with various exfoliating peels and rejuvenating moisturizers that speed up the skins turnover rate (like alpha hydroxy acids or Retin-A). If you’ve deep furrows or your lips are punctuated with lots of feathery lines, check with your dermatologist about deeper peels or injectable fillers that can plump up those areas again.

Karmen B. Saran
Contributing writer to DERMAdoctor.com.

alan@marple

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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2004, 09:06:00 AM »
Smoking and your skin

It is wise to avoid smoking, if for no other reason than that it damages the appearance of the skin. (There are other, even better, reasons too!'<img'> Cigarette smoke and tar deprive the skin of the nutrients and oxygen it needs for good health, ultimately leaving it looking dull and lifeless. They lead to the formation of harmful free radicals and weaken the collagen and elastin fibres, with the result that the skin becomes prematurely wrinkled.

alan@marple

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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2004, 09:02:22 AM »
"Useful",

I do aplologies for incorrectly assuming your gender. please forgive me

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« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2004, 12:42:38 PM »
Your argument regarding not smoking when asked does not hold water. I work in a pub where the licensees are smokers and therefore do not enforce a no smoking policy. As a worker I have no say in in requesting you to refrain from sending smoke in my direction!
And please do not come back with that sadly overused comment "you shouldn't work in a pub if you don't like smoke!"
You are fighting for the right to smoke when you want to, I for the right NOT to smoke because you want to.

useful

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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2004, 06:27:48 PM »
Hi to All

Alan@Marple I only spoke about crime because Denise said that smoking Kills and while I don't argue about this I did just want to point out that we smokers don,t kill people on purpose but some of the others do, yet they don't try to ban them, that was all I was saying.

They don't need a ban on smoking as like I said if there is a no smoking sign up anywhere most smokers will do as it requests and not smoke, what I find funny though is the busses have a no smoking policy yet most of the drivers still smoke.

The goverment have just banned  the use of mobile phones while driving, has that worked NO and what are they doing about it now?.

I know smoking is bad for you and for other people, that is why I don't do it when requested not to or when I am sat next to someone who does not smoke or would rather that I did not.

I respect both none smokers and smokers wishes but I think a ban is a waste of time unless it is banned as I said altogether as in no smoking at all, this is what they would do if it was a medical drug that was bad for you so why don't they do that with cigs.

I have no will power you are right, but I am also not a He.

Dave

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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2004, 02:59:09 PM »
The contributions to this topic display an encouraging amount of tolerance, exemplified by Alan's posting.  Maybe the traditional British respect for individual freedom isn't quite dead yet - or not in Marple anyway!  

The Government is reported to be considering a smoking ban for inclusion in its manifesto for the forthcoming election.  It might be set out as an issue to be decided by individual local authorities (which some regard as a messy cop-out), or the Government might grasp the nettle and go for a country-wide ban.  This might well be expressed as a ban on smoking in the workplace, which obviously includes all pubs and restaurants.  Whichever course is chosen, if there is a proposal for a ban, the views of our own MP are obviously highly relevant.  These are as follows: 'I don't personally regard a smoking ban as a high priority for legislation in parliament, although I would favour one if it were to come forward' (letter dated 22/3/2004).

On issues like this, where MP's tend to divide on non-party  political grounds, they are relatively open to persuasion from constituents, and if all of us who oppose an outright smoking ban in pubs and restaurants were to write to Andrew Stunnell and tell him so, I have no doubt that it would have some effect.

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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2004, 12:25:24 PM »
I am pleased to read that useful readily admits that he cant get off smoking, at leasts he is being honest.

But I am sorry that he does not have the will power to "get off"

Since being about twelve years of age, I was a regular smoker.
Daily on the way to school I would buy 5 Woodbines or Players weights or Domino Gigs. 1 for the train to Piccadilly, 1,for Piccadilly to Cheadle Hulme, 1 for lunchtime in the park
and the next two for the reverse journey back to Old Trafford.

I progressed from 5 a day, to 20, 30, 40, 50 and 60 a day.


My smokers cough was so bad that after the slightest cough I would go into a spasm through the stoppage of oxygen to my brain and this sometimes was when I would be driving I was a total wreck and the outcome for me if I continued was obvious.i have been "clean" for twelve years now and my quality of life has improved tremendously.

I choose not to ignore the advice of the medical profession and accept that smoking is dangerous to health and I like "useful" exercise my freedom of choice in NOT smoking.

I do not object to smoking in pubs, because it is my freedom of choice in visiting such establishments where I know that others will be there to socialize and recreate. But in doing so, I must accept that my clothes and hair will stink of stale tobacco, I can wash my hair straight away, clothing such as top coats and jackets take a little longer.

Duncan the Landlord of the Navigation does offer a room to be used exclusively for non smokers the other 3 public rooms are used by smokers, I have a choice.

The Edge Restaurant offers a non smoking room, I have a choice

The Italian opposite the Regent Cinema proudly advertises in the window that smoking is permitted throughout, I have a choice, so I don't go.

20 Gigs and two pints of "Robbie's" about £8.00, £56.per week.
£2901.00 per year.

Job seekers allowance. c £55.per week
£2860. per year.

" Useful" this has nothing to do with the crime activities that you mention, there are plenty of places that you can smoke and where you need not intentionally offend others.

I sincerely hope that your addiction will not shorten your life and that you will live to a ripe old age surrounded hopefully by a loving family.

The choice is yours...good luck