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Re: Stockport Council Consultation on Museums [Closes 18 November 2019]
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2019, 06:00:40 PM »
Momentum is gathering against the proposals to close Chadkirk Chapel to the public

Following the meeting at the weekend the momentum is gathering against the council's proposals to close Chadkirk Chapel to the public.

There is now a Facebook group here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2462884907300532/

And a great little video here:

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Re: Stockport Council Consultation on Museums [Closes 18 November 2019]
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2019, 04:53:29 PM »
Will the Chadkirk Chapel petition be made available online for those that can't attend?

Hi @Nwra 

I've raised this question with the Friends of Chadkirk and they will consider this and let us know.

Of course what you can do (and should do if you don't like this proposal) is to respond accordingly to the consultation before it closes on 18 November.

Here's the link again: https://consultation.stockport.gov.uk/policy-performance-and-reform/museums-consultation-2019/
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Re: Stockport Council Consultation on Museums [Closes 18 November 2019]
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2019, 12:39:54 PM »
If Chadkirk Chapel doesn't open on Saturday and Sunday afternoons then I would think the number of weddings using as a venue will diminish, as nobody will know what it will be like inside.

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Re: Stockport Council Consultation on Museums [Closes 18 November 2019]
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2019, 10:35:43 AM »
Will the Chadkirk Chapel petition be made available online for those that can't attend?

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Public Meeting on Threatened Closure of Chadkirk Chapel [9 November 2019]
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2019, 07:24:56 AM »
Public Meeting on the Threatened Closure of Chadkirk Chapel

Saturday 9 November at 2pm in Chadkirk Chapel


As we know, Stockport Council is currently consulting on proposals to save £150k from the Museums budget. 

One of the suggestions is to cease opening Chadkirk Chapel to the public (currently it is open on Saturday and Sunday afternoons).  The consultation document mentions the possibility that local groups may like to take this on.  The Friends of Chadkirk Chapel group is concerned about the the impact of this proposal, both in terms of public access to a building of significant historical interest and the effect upon the fabric of the building should it be closed up except for use as a wedding venue a few times each year. 

They have organised a public meeting to discuss the issues and try to find constructive solutions/suggestions.

Please attend if this is of interest to you.

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Re: Stockport Council Consultation on Museums [Closes 18 November 2019]
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2019, 01:08:21 PM »
it's time to admit the currenty strategy isn't working. Building new roads is NOT going to reduce traffic, it will at best redistribute it and more likely over a longer term will increase traffic. While we do need to ensure our existing roads are suitable for use, we need to prioritise our efforts to reduce single passenger vehicle use, which means makign it more attractive - cost, efficiency, general provision - to use public transport rather than use the car. Not even electric cars will help this as an electric car takes the same amount of road space as a non-electric car
What strategy?

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Re: Stockport Council Consultation on Museums [Closes 18 November 2019]
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2019, 12:51:12 PM »
it's time to admit the currenty strategy isn't working. Building new roads is NOT going to reduce traffic, it will at best redistribute it and more likely over a longer term will increase traffic. While we do need to ensure our existing roads are suitable for use, we need to prioritise our efforts to reduce single passenger vehicle use, which means makign it more attractive - cost, efficiency, general provision - to use public transport rather than use the car. Not even electric cars will help this as an electric car takes the same amount of road space as a non-electric car
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Re: Stockport Council Consultation on Museums [Closes 18 November 2019]
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2019, 12:16:06 PM »
we can't wait for one before the other. both need to evolve together, and that means shouting about it and voting out the wasteful councillors.

https://betterbusesgm.org.uk/better-buses-manchester-homepage
So you're propsing traffic armageddon before utopia?

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Re: Stockport Council Consultation on Museums [Closes 18 November 2019]
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2019, 09:08:11 AM »
we can't wait for one before the other. both need to evolve together, and that means shouting about it and voting out the wasteful councillors.

https://betterbusesgm.org.uk/better-buses-manchester-homepage

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Re: Stockport Council Consultation on Museums [Closes 18 November 2019]
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2019, 03:46:19 PM »
An interesting take here on jimblob's point about roads "crippling all of our abilities to get to work to earn a crust and pay our council taxes"

https://www.ft.com/content/d4fb89b0-ee61-11e9-ad1e-4367d8281195
A reasoned argument and I don't disagree with any of it. Where I regularly work (Aberdeen) I do in fact walk to work and use the bus and don't use a car. But there are afew distinct issues and differences in Stockport's approach over the situation both in Aberdeen and also from the article which is based around Nottingham. The article states that...
"the key to winning businesses’ support was that the money was ringfenced for transport"
In stockport not so... they just waste money on stuff that provides no tangible benefit.
secondly
The council retained a controlling stake in the main bus company when the government enforced mass privatisation in the 1980s. It co-ordinates with the only other operator, a family run group called Trent Barton, to ensure cheap, comprehensive coverage.
again in Stockport, not so and our bus systems are sadly lacking and too expensive.

Stockport seem hell bent on penalising the motorist but offer no viable alternatives; therein lies the flaw in their strategy. Andy Burnham has got it right, but he's years away from his integrated transport plan coming to fruition. In the meantime, Stockport can't keep hitting the humble car owner, it needs to offer a better alternative FIRST!

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Re: Stockport Council Consultation on Museums [Closes 18 November 2019]
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2019, 02:42:55 PM »
An interesting take here on jimblob's point about roads "crippling all of our abilities to get to work to earn a crust and pay our council taxes"

https://www.ft.com/content/d4fb89b0-ee61-11e9-ad1e-4367d8281195
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Re: Stockport Council Consultation on Museums [Closes 18 November 2019]
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2019, 02:17:37 PM »
The council also has a number of other consultations currently, listed below with closing dates. 

Support Funds Consultation  (4 November 2019)
Greater Manchester's Cycling and Walking Network- Stockport Proposals (8 November 2019)
Special Educational Needs and Disabilities Transport Consultation  (11 November 2019)
Street Cleaning Consultation 2019  (11 November 2019)
Libraries Consultation 2019   (15 November 2019)

All can be completed online https://consultation.stockport.gov.uk/
Just jumped onto these and completed each one. I'm sure it'll make absolutely no difference. We'll still have an oversized, overzealous highways department who cost us a fortune both in what they spend, cost us as officers of the council but continue to turn Stockport into the speed bump capital of Europe. Unwittingly crippling all of our abilities to get to work to earn a crust and pay our council taxes to fund they very things they're trying to cut back on. Stockport Council really don't get it in my opinion.

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Re: Stockport Council Consultation on Museums [Closes 18 November 2019]
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2019, 09:39:22 PM »
The council also has a number of other consultations currently, listed below with closing dates. 

Support Funds Consultation  (4 November 2019)
Greater Manchester's Cycling and Walking Network- Stockport Proposals (8 November 2019)
Special Educational Needs and Disabilities Transport Consultation  (11 November 2019)
Street Cleaning Consultation 2019  (11 November 2019)
Libraries Consultation 2019   (15 November 2019)

All can be completed online https://consultation.stockport.gov.uk/

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Re: Stockport Council Consultation on Museums [Closes 18 November 2019]
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2019, 11:30:45 AM »
Ensuring the Council doesn’t waste money in the first place by paying salaries to incompetent people.

Or simply buying white elephants or undertaking "improvements" on things we neither need nor want.

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Re: Stockport Council Consultation on Museums [Closes 18 November 2019]
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2019, 12:01:54 PM »
Yet another Council proposal to reduce facilities in order to cut costs.  While cutting costs may be necessary there are more ways than one, and the major one is ensuring the Council doesn’t waste money in the first place by paying salaries to incompetent people.  Unless things have changed, when you go to the Hat Museum the lighting is so low you cannot read the descriptions.   The same applies to the  Stockport Museum, neither encourages you to recommend it to others.

 Chadkirk Chapel is under threat and although this may be saved by calling on Volunteers, unfortunately this means Stockport Council will still be mainly in charge and who have shown their incompetence in the past.  In my opinion the Chapel's Audio-Visual display was the best I have ever seen.  I think it was a 6 projector system.   Repeated complaints to the Council that one of the projectors wan’t working produced no result until it was eventually changed to a DVD presentation but still without the 6th set of slides so it destroyed the whole experience. How many people even know it is there even with all its faults?

Taking things closer to Marple.  For years I have been trying to persuade Stockport Council to provide an information board near the Middlewood Way and Rosehill Station to show what attractions are in the area. Instead they put up elaborate Corporate Notice Boards in all the parks which are almost out of date the day after they are erected - are the phone numbers relevant and are they manned all the time? 

There is no point in having Museums etc if they are not attractive to visit, and if we have no Museums etc then there is little to do in Stockport other than looking at Fred Perry House and wondering why it is there.