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Re: Parking, Stockport Road, Bus area outside Costa to Greenhalghs
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2019, 08:32:56 PM »
Well if you need to go in the evening or a Sunday, public transport is very difficult.

Besides, the last time I went there I wasn't living in Marple.
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« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2019, 08:11:12 PM »
Why cant you use public transport to go to stepping hill

Well if you need to go in the evening or a Sunday, public transport is very difficult.

Besides, the last time I went there I wasn't living in Marple.

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« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2019, 08:08:11 PM »
Funnily enough I did pass my test.  I have held a full, clean driving licence for over 20 years.  I drive a large family car.  But clearly you are a superior driver to me if you can get into a space in the Stepping Hill multistories without needing to do a ridiculous number of manoeuvres and have the constant worry that you're going to bash the side of your vehicle into a pillar.

The sizes of parking bays in this country has not changed in decades.  But the size of cars have.  last year Which compiled a list of 129 cars either too long or too wide for UK parking spaces. 
https://www.which.co.uk/news/2018/06/cars-too-big-for-parking-spaces-the-worst-culprits-revealed/

My car isn't on that list, but this summer in Wales I parked in a large car park where the marked bays were significantly shorter than the length of my car...  I think they were designed to fit Minis and 2CVs and little else.
Why cant you use public transport to go to stepping hill

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Re: Parking, Stockport Road, Bus area outside Costa to Greenhalghs
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2019, 07:25:09 PM »
One assumes you passed your driving test? So there is no reason why you can't park your car in a carpark whether it's Stepping Hill or anywhere else. I drive a large Renault Scenic and have no problems parking it in public car parks, including that at Stepping Hill and I'm just a helpless little woman (sarcasm off).

Funnily enough I did pass my test.  I have held a full, clean driving licence for over 20 years.  I drive a large family car.  But clearly you are a superior driver to me if you can get into a space in the Stepping Hill multistories without needing to do a ridiculous number of manoeuvres and have the constant worry that you're going to bash the side of your vehicle into a pillar.

The sizes of parking bays in this country has not changed in decades.  But the size of cars have.  last year Which compiled a list of 129 cars either too long or too wide for UK parking spaces. 
https://www.which.co.uk/news/2018/06/cars-too-big-for-parking-spaces-the-worst-culprits-revealed/

My car isn't on that list, but this summer in Wales I parked in a large car park where the marked bays were significantly shorter than the length of my car...  I think they were designed to fit Minis and 2CVs and little else.

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« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2019, 06:23:15 PM »
What countries would those be?

And I would be more than happy to reverse in.  If parking bays were actually designed to cope with the average modern car.

You may call it sloppy, but there's plenty of parking spaces that are horrendous to get into forward, yet alone whilst trying to look over your shoulder.  If you'd like an example, pop over to Stepping Hill hospital.  Took me about ten minutes to get into one of their parking spaces a few years ago thanks to a classic combination of narrow bays and badly placed pillars.  Reverse in?  No way.
One assumes you passed your driving test? So there is no reason why you can't park your car in a carpark whether it's Stepping Hill or anywhere else. I drive a large Renault Scenic and have no problems parking it in public car parks, including that at Stepping Hill and I'm just a helpless little woman (sarcasm off).
Don't look for the light at the end of the tunnel -  stomp along there and turn the bl**dy thing on yourself!

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Re: Parking, Stockport Road, Bus area outside Costa to Greenhalghs
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2019, 06:15:42 PM »
That area has changed and you will get a parking ticket if you leave your car there to go into any of the shops there quickly.
The friendly JW folks are advising folks when they leave their car there, but my wife sadly misheard them and got a ticket within minutes.
I suspect the local parking enforcement officer is sat in Costa, waiting for his next victim.. You have been warned..
About time too. I passed one day when the bus area was packed with cars and delivery vans and the buses were having to stop on the roadway, obstructing other traffic.

Common sense should be enough to stop people parking there but obviously common sense is not a strong point among some drivers. Hopefully, the parking ticket and fine has taught your wife a lesson.
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Re: Parking, Stockport Road, Bus area outside Costa to Greenhalghs
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2019, 05:43:45 PM »
The main problem with parking is the size of cars which are the size of a mini-bus. There is no need for anybody to have a car bigger than a Ford Fiesta. If everybody did have smaller cars there would be no problem with parking.

Do you have children?  Cos child seats alone take up a lot of space in the back.  Two of them in the back of a ford Fiesta?  My parents have a medium size and they struggle.

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« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2019, 05:01:15 PM »
The main problem with parking is the size of cars which are the size of a mini-bus. There is no need for anybody to have a car bigger than a Ford Fiesta. If everybody did have smaller cars there would be no problem with parking.

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« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2019, 06:15:28 PM »
The tighter the parking, the better it is to reverse in. Its simple physics. The turning wheels move over a wider arc. So unless you have rear wheel steering reversing in is easier, and far more likely to get out if someone parks awkwardly opposite.

Only disadvantage of reversing in is access to boot. But for ease of manouvering should always reverse.

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« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2019, 07:55:40 AM »
What’s the problem with reversing into a parking bay, just use the mirrors, both of them, that all cars are fitted with, better than reversing out blind into other moving traffic. The only time I drive forward into a bay is when I need to load into the boot and access to it would be blocked by other cars. Give it a go you may even get quite good at it.

You don't reverse out blind.  You have mirrors.

And given every time I go to the shops, I need to get in the boot...

Like many modern cars, mine is also equipped with parking sensors.  Whether you use then to reverse in, or reverse out, they are a very helpful innovation.

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« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2019, 11:03:02 PM »
What’s the problem with reversing into a parking bay, just use the mirrors, both of them, that all cars are fitted with, better than reversing out blind into other moving traffic. The only time I drive forward into a bay is when I need to load into the boot and access to it would be blocked by other cars. Give it a go you may even get quite good at it.

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« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2019, 04:30:11 PM »
There always seems to be cars parked on double yellow lines outside the Toymaster/Archers and Hollins along with some parked on Fern Close. I have on occasions seen the camera car parked opposite the bus stops on double yellow lines.

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« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2019, 02:18:46 PM »
Drivers should be the responsible one and if they won't act responsible one and if they won't act responsibly then legislation is required with no exemptions.  We also need to tackle people that drive into parking spaces instead of backing in. Driving into parking spaces is already an offence in many countries and it's time this lazy sloppy poor driving practice was tackled.

What countries would those be?

And I would be more than happy to reverse in.  If parking bays were actually designed to cope with the average modern car.

You may call it sloppy, but there's plenty of parking spaces that are horrendous to get into forward, yet alone whilst trying to look over your shoulder.  If you'd like an example, pop over to Stepping Hill hospital.  Took me about ten minutes to get into one of their parking spaces a few years ago thanks to a classic combination of narrow bays and badly placed pillars.  Reverse in?  No way.

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Re: Parking, Stockport Road, Bus area outside Costa to Greenhalghs
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2019, 01:34:41 PM »
  Councils should be the ones responsible.

Drivers should be the responsible one and if they won't act responsible one and if they won't act responsibly then legislation is required with no exemptions.  We also need to tackle people that drive into parking spaces instead of backing in. Driving into parking spaces is already an offence in many countries and it's time this lazy sloppy poor driving practice was tackled.

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« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2019, 11:57:47 AM »
Just to add to the confusion, try reading this  [urlhttps://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201719/cmselect/cmtrans/1982/1982.pdf][/url] .  It is part of a document that also covers Yellow Lines.  While parking is a problem, I suspect the Government will recommend a Ban on Pavement Parking, but will leave it up to local councils and local police to decide if they want to enforce it.  How many hours of politicians and Civil Servants time has been spent on this?

All that would do would be to bring the rest of the country in line with Greater London where this is already the case.

And it has to be done on a pragmatic basis. 

I used to live in the London Borough of Merton.  And like many places, they have roads where if you banned pavement parking, and people parked on both sides of the road, the road would be blocked.

But pavement parking (the ban of which wasn't enforced) meant blocked pavements.  So the council instigated a pragmatic policy.  They'd enforce pavement parking rules for most streets.  And some streets would have a partial exemption.  They published a list of streets where you could pavement park BUT you had to leave a 1m gap on the pavement.  If you didn't, you'd get fined.

There's no good having a central government edict that all pavement parking must be banned.  Councils should be the ones responsible.