mobile phone mast

[Howard]

Quote (sgk @ Mar. 05 2006,12:02)

Quite a balanced article about it at Wikipedia  "Mobile_phone_radiation_and_health"

And here's a new study from Denmark which gives some reassurance about the supposed risk. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory?id=2702500

[Lisa Oldham]

absolutely not  '>  
theres sample leaflets on our website for people to use but people often just nick bits and do their own.

I do know the people involved in this campaign but havent seen the full leaflet so cant comment on how good or bad it is.  Only that they are not wrong about the house price issue.

I understand why people write leaflets in this way... its not always intended to scare and alarm its mostly because thats what people believe..  Its a very emotive subject and everyone deals with it in different ways

and this is tame compared to some that Ive seen!

[Dave]

Does this mean that you are responsible for the anonymous leaflet being pushed through people's letterboxes in Mellor, Lisa?   '>

[Lisa Oldham]

Marple CC turned theirs down because of neighbour outrage.. neighbours they hadnt asked for opinions.   At a meeting that residents gatecrashed –including myself - it was made clear that having mast would be unneighbourly regardless of personal opinions on the health issue and neighbours pointed out what they had done for the club for many many years and what they wouldnt do for the club if a mast went up.  This included reporting vandal problems putting out fires preventing vandals motorbiking all over the grass etc etc so thats why they turned it down and rightly so it would have cost them a fortune  and could still if they decide to debate it in the future.

Yes it is their business.... but business’s like sports clubs depend on neighbour support and to force it on their neighbours for what is usually about 4 thou a year is outrageous and stupid. They will also lose complete control of that piece of land and other antennae often go onto the structure regardless of the landowners opinion.  If they do it I for one will not be sending my son to lacrosse there again.  It DOES have an effect on prices and saleability of homes.  Theres been a number of cases now where the LA ombudsmen has awarded money to residents because of loss of value of homes( not everyone can do this as it depends on the LA cocking up ). Its a simple fact and it happens everywhere – ask an estate agent.  The closer to the mast and the more visible the mast is the more chance of an effect on price.  If you live near the site and are happy then theres not a problem and you have no reason to object any way, but bear in mind most environmental searchs now automatically report on mobile phone mast location - Why do you think that is?  If you have researched the health issue Im surprised that you can come to the conclusion that its harmless and that research suggests it is…. and obviously if you came to the opposite conclusion then you wouldn’t have been put off objecting simply because you disagree with a leaflet surely that really would be cutting off your nose wouldn’t it!!

For the record I am the founder and currently trustee  ( though about to “retire” ) of Mast Sanity the national charity advising local people on how to oppose masts in their areas.  I have helped thousands of people over the last 5 years and I am totally convinced of the danger of masts.  Ive talked to many people whose lives have been ruined some of them initially very sceptical.. many didnt bother to object because they didnt believe there was a problem... others did object got it anyway.  They have suffered from numerous problems ( and that’s one of the problems with “proof” as not everyone is affected in the same way due to the fact it initially effects hormones in the body – proven by the way! )
the Hum, headaches, major sleep problems ( often one of the first signs) skin problems cosntant flu.  Anything that alters melatonin can have differing effects on the auto immune system
 
It does effect health and theres is sound science to explain the problems..
as to wikipedia... Have you tried reading anything else? To quote "..the majority of epidemiological studies have not found any clear indication of short and medium term health hazards.."  I don’t consider this a true statement.. the majority of epidemiological surveys that have actually been carried out round mobile phone towers DO show problems ( did you notice the lack of long term health hazards! )   You need to look closely at other stuff.. and yes I appreciate theres “2 sides” but have you seen who backs the research for the other side?    
check out http://www.hese-project.org/hese-uk/en/niemr/masts.php?content_type=R
for info on other epidemiological studies.  wikipedia quotes one of these only

other interesting sites apart from the mast sanity site are http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/masts.asp
http://www.emfacts.com/

Theres a huge debate going on in science world at mo not specific towards the mobile technology field but ALL science drugs, cancer food everything…. About the “sponsoring” of research and how/why money is offered by industry.   The mobile industry (and our govt) has an awful lot to gain and absolutely everything to lose by allowing the constantly emerging research to go unchallenged.

….and before you say what every one says NOPE I havent got one.. no I don’t use one.. and theres no way on this earth I will let me children have one.  Considering the huge weight of evidence (that generally goes unreported or wrongly reported) out there and the situation as it is Id prefer my children to smoke than have a mobile phone they stand a better chance of surviving intact to old age with a fully functioning brain.

[Belly]

Quote (Mr Mansfield @ Oct. 24 2006,17:14)

I am not a member of the Mellor club, or any other local sports club, but it seems to me that if the Mellor club members want to grant a telecoms provider the use of their land then it is their business. I would be surprised if  it was not to the clubs financial benefit and why not?. Its good to talk!

Marple CC recently turned down the option for a mast due to objections from local residents. That decision cost the club a potential £100,000+ windfall over the next 15 years or so, which could have been spent on upgrading the faclities for local people to enjoy

It takes one hell of a whip round to generate that kind of money....

[Mr Mansfield]

I am not a member of the Mellor club, or any other local sports club, but it seems to me that if the Mellor club members want to grant a telecoms provider the use of their land then it is their business. I would be surprised if  it was not to the clubs financial benefit and why not?.


Its good to talk!

[sgk]

I find it quite galling to see organisations like Mellor Sports Club betraying the very people who support them.

Unsure whether this website has been mentioned yet, but there's a campaign group opposed to such things, at http://www.mastsanity.org/.

[Dave]

I believe Mellor Sports Club has put in a recent application to erect a new mobile phone mast.  I only know this because  someone has been putting an anonymous and extremely alarmist leaflet through people's letterboxes in Mellor, urging residents to object.  (The leaflet starts with the eye-catching line 'House prices slump to a 5 year low in Mellor! )

Personally I'm open minded about this issue - the health hazards are debateable, as this useful Wikipedia article  makes clear.  And we all use mobiles, don't we, so the masts have got to go somewhere.  

But the hysterical tone of this anonymous leaflet, and it's devious suggestion that house prices will fall, could be counter-productive.  I for one will probably not object now, because this kind of dishonest campaigning gives objectors a bad name.

[sgk]

Quite a balanced article about it at Wikipedia  "Mobile_phone_radiation_and_health"

[amazon]

yes / :

[Howard]

Lisa,

Can you cite the sources you mention?

[Lisa Oldham]

you must be joking of course I dont ... Ive read enough about it and talk to too many scientists who dont go near the things either.

Alot of other campaigners tend to be using them when they start their campaign but very quickly change the way they use them (ie just for work) or get rid once they realise the huge weight of research showing major future problems backed up by fairly scary statistics showing massive increases in Brain cancers and growths in the last 10 years as well as very alarming increases in early life alzeihmers ( 40 s and 50s)

[amazon]

The People That Complain About Phone Masts Do They Have
 Mobiles .  :

[Lisa Oldham]

Presume you noticed H3G have earmarked it as a site as well?  Only T Mobile and O2 to go then

Ive emailed the planning dept numerous time to get this info (about why one operator as 2 masts a tthe same place) and theyve always claimed ignorance - always waiting for Vodafone to get back to them etc the last email they didnt even bother responding to... amazing what a bit of media interest does

[tina]

Page 10 in the stockport times, these masts get a mention.