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Who do you expect to vote for (no one can see your vote and you can change it any time).

DARRAN PALMER (UKIP)
LISA SMART (Liberal Democrat)
MICHAEL TAYLOR (Labour)
WILLIAM WRAGG (Conservative)
Don't Know Yet
Won't Vote
GRAHAM REID (Green Party)

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Duke Fame

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Re: Who are the candidates and who's got your vote?
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2015, 12:35:32 PM »
Miliband for PM!

The very though makes me do a little sick.

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Re: Who are the candidates and who's got your vote?
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2015, 10:47:38 AM »
Yes, it's depressing how the election is degenerating into a slanging match, in which the participants just rubbish everyone else and hurl meaningless statistics at one another.   :(

Meanwhile the latest news from the bookies is that Ms Smart is still firm favourite to win here.

Nationally, however, the bookies' positions are shifting a bit.  A Labour minority government is still favourite at 5/2.  That's at both Paddypower and William Hill.  However, those odds have shortened from 10/3 over the past three weeks or so.

You can see how that could happen.  Say each of the two big parties ends up with about 270 seats, which is what the opinion polls seem to be suggesting at the moment.  So Labour or the Tories would need, in order to form a minority government, to make some sort of arrangement, formal or informal, with another party or parties commanding around 60 seats, in order to reach the magic 326 for an overall majority.

If the LibDems get 30 seats (optimistic), that's obviously not enough.  Who else would the Tories work with?  Only the DUP, I reckon, and they will only have about eight seats.

Labour, on the other hand, have ruled out a coalition with the SNP, but they have not ruled out a more informal arrangement.  The SNP and the LibDems between them have a reasonable chance of securing 60 seats.  And there you go - Miliband for PM! 




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Re: Who are the candidates and who's got your vote?
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2015, 09:01:20 AM »
Just imagine that, for the past 10 years, William Wragg had been working as an investment banker in the City, rather then as a primary school teacher. Now imagine what would have been on all those Lib Dem  leaflets that are currently being thrown in the bin.......

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Re: Who are the candidates and who's got your vote?
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2015, 08:55:09 AM »
I don't normally read the political leaflets. Well I haven't had any from Labour, Ukip  or anybody else but I've been bombarded by the LibDems. In fact their leaflets have become  like a nuisance phone call now and go straight from doormat to dustbin.

However, I received a rare Conservative one yesterday so I thought that I'd read it.

As you would expect it consists of several photos of their candidate, nice looking chap. The usual stuff about; fighting for jobs, hospitals, education and so on.

Then there are two pages of bullet points about how good the Tories are and how bad and wicked  everybody else is. Upon closer scrutiny these bullet points are all quotes from daily newspapers. To add insult to injury they are mostly (not exclusively) Tory newspapers.

Maybe it's my age but I do find it an insult to my intelligence that somebody that is standing for parliament, claiming to represent my viewpoint, seemingly expects me to be persuaded in any way by this drivel, presented in such a way.  Which if anything will dissuade me from voting for him.     

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Re: Who are the candidates and who's got your vote?
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2015, 01:16:21 PM »
Not being funny but Mellorite should not have had to do any digging. They should have let you know this the first time of asking. Well done though - very interesting.

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Re: Who are the candidates and who's got your vote?
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2015, 11:17:54 AM »
I agree with Nick  I mean Dave..). I couldn't care less where she comes from but I certainly am unimpressed with the way the Lib Dems have tried to create the "impression" that she is local. A bit like the way they will try and deny, during the GE campaign, any involvement  in many of the policies that they have voted for during the past 5 years. I doubt if we will hear much of their unsurpassed Europhilia, a subject which is never mentioned in any Lib Dem election material.

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Re: Who are the candidates and who's got your vote?
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2015, 09:37:15 AM »
A fascinating post - thank you mellorite.  You are quite a sleuth!

In answer to mellorite's very good question: 

Why does she want to be the MP for Hazel Grove?

... I offer the following link: https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=define%20carpetbagger

For what it's worth, I don't have any problem with the fact that Ms Smart isn't local.  My problem is that she wants us to believe that she is! 

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Re: Who are the candidates and who's got your vote?
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2015, 07:56:35 AM »
Dear fellow voters,

I'm sure that I am not alone in being curious about the background and qualifications of our prospective MP, so I started by looking at the bio on her website and left none the wiser. Lisa invites us to get in touch, so I did just that. I asked which charity she had been Chief Executive of, and in which businesses/roles she had gained her 12 years' experience in International Finance. Perfectly reasonable questions, I thought. There was no reply, so after 2 weeks I mailed again and got a response from a party caseworker, devoid of any facts.

By this point, my curiosity was increasing, so I mailed again and was told that a CV for Lisa would be posted to me at home. It didn't arrive. A week later I mailed again and a week after that a shiny leaflet containing absolutely no hard facts plopped onto my doormat.

By now, my curiosity was beginning to turn to suspicion. So I did some research of my own. I've presented the facts below, but please do make corrections if I have got anything wrong.

1) Lisa Smart is a founding trustee since 2006 of  La Vida Vital Development Aid for Investment in South America, charity number 1115796 based in London. The average turnover for the last 5 years of published accounts is £55,489.  All of the trustees act as unpaid volunteers. Once you know the name, it is easy to find out all about the charity on the web. According to the charities commission website, Miss Lisa Smart is not currently a trustee of any other charities.

2) Lisa worked for 9 years in London for Pictet Asset Management (PIC), a Swiss Private Bank. According to archived web pages from La Vida, her role was relationship manager for North American institutional clients.

3) According to her profile on Privatebanking.com, in 2010, Lisa joined Genesis Investment Management, LLP as Director of Client Relationships, with a focus on relationships with clients and investment consultants. In addition to her role with the Client Services team, she also runs the Genesis Charitable Trust. In her current profile on the LaVida website, she is described as Chief Executive of Genesis Charitable Trust.

4) Genesis Charitable Trust, charity number 1148643 is based in Westminster, London. It was established in 2012, funded exclusively by Genesis LLP. So far only accounts from 2013 have been filed, which show an income of £2.3m and expenditure of £1.5m. The annual report can be downloaded from the charities commission website. Lisa Smart is not listed as a current trustee. Her name does not appear anywhere in the 2013 annual report or on the Genesis website.

5) According to the Companies House database, Lisa Smart became a director of Stockport Canal Boat Trust on 29th October, 2014.  She holds no other current directorships and has no closed or retired directorships.

6) According to her office, Lisa is a governor of Torkington Primary School. According to the website of Merton Lib Dems in her 2012 campaign to be elected to the London Assembly, Lisa was also a local candidate there, having lived in Wandsworth for 10 years and acted as a governor for a local school (Elliot school, since 2012 the ARK acadamy). The caseworker didn't think to include the last bit.

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I don't have a party political view on the above, I just wish people putting themselves forward for public office could find it within themselves to tell the straight-forward truth. My best guess is that someone has determined voters may not empathise with a "Local" candidate who clearly isn't and has actually had  a career in Swiss Private Banking, or to some folks, "A Banker". Unfortunately for the politicians out there, the power of the web means that there is no hiding place and the truth will out.

From what I can see, Lisa's CV is actually quite impressive.  There is still one question unanswered, though. Why does she want to be the MP for Hazel Grove?

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Re: Who are the candidates and who's got your vote?
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2015, 07:18:56 AM »
It is still a difficult one this, for me anyway. Locally it is easy I'll be voting LibDem and I'll be happy to do so.

Nationally though, I just don't know. I've tried to focus on the individual candidates but it isn't easy to do that and ignore party politics.

I keep getting front-runners and then I read/hear/see some party politic thing and change my mind. It really seems to be that the individual impresses  on some point and then their leadership in Westminster undermines them in some way.

Anyway, 6 weeks from the election and I've not made my mind up.

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Re: Who are the candidates and who's got your vote?
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2015, 09:51:02 PM »
Is there no candidate for the Green Party?

At the Education Hustings on 26 February was a chap who may become the Green Party candidate, but it hadn't been decided then.

Happy to add any other candidates' details when available.

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Re: Who are the candidates and who's got your vote?
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2015, 08:18:47 PM »
Is there no candidate for the Green Party?

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Re: Who are the candidates and who's got your vote?
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2015, 06:27:05 AM »
Following a hustings at Wednesday's Marple Business Forum Meeting you can now get a good look at the main candidates in action thanks to the camera of Arthur Procter:

From left to right, Lisa Smart, @Michael Taylor, @DarranPalmer and @William Wragg









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Who are the candidates and who's got your vote?
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2014, 10:37:08 AM »
The candidates declared so far (as I understand it) are listed in alphabetical order below with links to their web sites and / or Social Media accounts where known :

DARRAN PALMER (UKIP)

https://twitter.com/DarranJPalmer
https://www.facebook.com/DarranpalmerUKIP

LISA SMART (Liberal Democrat)

https://twitter.com/Lisa_Smart
http://www.lisasmart.org.uk/
https://www.facebook.com/LisaSmartLibDem

MICHAEL TAYLOR (Labour)

https://twitter.com/MarpleLeaf
http://www.themarpleleaf.blogspot.co.uk/
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001698974271
https://hazelgrovelabourparty.wordpress.com/

WILLIAM WRAGG (Conservative)

https://twitter.com/William_Wragg
http://www.williamwragg.org.uk/

GRAHAM REID (Green Party)

http://stockport.greenparty.org.uk/news/2015/04/02/hazel-grove-candidate-unveiled/


If I've missed any other candidates or any useful links about them, please let me know.