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« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2012, 12:09:29 PM »
· The inclusion of cycle parking at the foodstore’s Trinity Street level as well as the provision already included as part of the rooftop car park

Nice to see my suggestion made it through! Why would cyclists want to leave their bike on a rooftop car park anyway? The whole point of taking your bike is that you hop off and straight into the shop.

I think M&Co may struggle because it is pretty expensive. I have used it a lot over the years but generally when the sale is on. Otherwise I find prices on par with Next. It is a good store but in the economic climate people may be going to cheaper stores; Primark etc. How can you be sure the closure is directly due to Asda? How big is the Cheadle Asda?

Sorry if this sounds callous, but it's almost a shame M&Co hasn't struggled, it'd have been perfect as an Express/Local food store (again) to provide a second option in the centre. Unless the "ethical" Co-op still own it?

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« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2012, 05:16:37 PM »
Why then has McKays closed in Cheadle Hulme as a direct result of ASDA moving in?

As Asda has only been open for about 2 weeks, I doubt that they have anything to do with McKays closing.

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« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2012, 04:45:15 PM »

Why then has McKays closed in Cheadle Hulme as a direct result of ASDA moving in?

I think M&Co may struggle because it is pretty expensive. I have used it a lot over the years but generally when the sale is on. Otherwise I find prices on par with Next. It is a good store but in the economic climate people may be going to cheaper stores; Primark etc. How can you be sure the closure is directly due to Asda? How big is the Cheadle Asda?

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« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2012, 04:36:29 PM »
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Its also interesting to note that Asda have just opened in Cheadle Hulme. They bought the Co-op store in the precinct. That will help keep people shopping locally and boost the footfall for local traders even more.

Why then has McKays closed in Cheadle Hulme as a direct result of ASDA moving in?
How do you know it's Ada's fault mc are struggling . They hav shut quite a few stores in the north .

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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2012, 04:27:36 PM »
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Its also interesting to note that Asda have just opened in Cheadle Hulme. They bought the Co-op store in the precinct. That will help keep people shopping locally and boost the footfall for local traders even more.

Why then has McKays closed in Cheadle Hulme as a direct result of ASDA moving in?

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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2012, 10:11:39 AM »
I completely disagree - A Waitrose and an Asda would definitely keep me in Marple.  I'd much rather shop locally than go to Hazel Grove M and S and Sainsburys which I currently do each week. I rarely go into Marple these days but if these two supermarkets were built it would be an encouragement to use local shops.  Marple is like a ghost town most afternoons and it has to change with the times whether some people like it or not.

I agree with you. It would stop me going to Tesco and doing Tesco online. Only, though, if it were an Asda or Aldi. Waitrose would do nothing for those on a low income.

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« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2012, 10:50:42 PM »
Yes wheels I agree.

Dave and amazon I think maybe one of the butchers may survive a waitrose opening but two?

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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2012, 10:09:48 PM »
Well I am not sure in reality we are any long talking about 2 supermarkets thus my point that a Waitrose alone is not off sufficient attraction/strength to get people to change their shopping habit. I can see they might use it as a top up store but not for the mainly weekly shop. An Aldi might keep a few more in Marple but not that much more than Waitrose

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« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2012, 07:58:08 PM »
I doubt a Waitrose would stop the weekly trips to Bredbury and Hazel Grove. People are creatures of habit when shopping and Waitrose is not strong enough to break that habit.


I completely disagree - A Waitrose and an Asda would definitely keep me in Marple.  I'd much rather shop locally than go to Hazel Grove M and S and Sainsburys which I currently do each week. I rarely go into Marple these days but if these two supermarkets were built it would be an encouragement to use local shops.  Marple is like a ghost town most afternoons and it has to change with the times whether some people like it or not.

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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2012, 03:42:50 PM »
I doubt a Waitrose would stop the weekly trips to Bredbury and Hazel Grove. People are creatures of habit when shopping and Waitrose is not strong enough to break that habit.


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« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2012, 03:33:18 PM »
As ever, all we can do is speculate!  I can see the logic of arguing that Waitrose (as opposed to, say, Aldi) would take business away from our local butchers, delis, the fish stall, etc.  On the other hand, look at this article about Cheadle Hulme:  http://cheshire.greatbritishlife.co.uk/article/a-choice-location--we-visit-cheadle-and-cheadle-hulme-39666/

The key sentence is a quote from Pimlott's, the long-established Cheadle Hulme butchers, which now finds itself across the road from Waitrose:  'The coming of Waitrose to the centre of the village has helped keep us busy, because local people tend to shop locally.’

The truth is that it's a complex issue and it's very hard to predict what will happen - there are so many variables.  But what Pimlott's in Cheadle Hulme have found, I think, is that although they may have lost some business to Waitrose, that is more than compensated for by the greatly increased footfall in Cheadle Hulme centre which Waitrose has brought.  If having a proper supermarket in Marple stops the weekly exodus to Bredbury, Hazel Grove etc for supermarket shopping, we could find the same happens in Marple

But for me, the big downside of the Trinity Street/Chadwick Street scheme is that (despite Kirkland's protestations to the contrary) it will not help the college deal with its poor-quality estate. 

Like you say it's the collage that's most important that's where all the speculation started .with Asda ,gone very quite from Asda .on this .

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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2012, 02:37:17 PM »
Its also interesting to note that Asda have just opened in Cheadle Hulme. They bought the Co-op store in the precinct. That will help keep people shopping locally and boost the footfall for local traders even more.
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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2012, 02:03:23 PM »
As ever, all we can do is speculate!  I can see the logic of arguing that Waitrose (as opposed to, say, Aldi) would take business away from our local butchers, delis, the fish stall, etc.  On the other hand, look at this article about Cheadle Hulme:  http://cheshire.greatbritishlife.co.uk/article/a-choice-location--we-visit-cheadle-and-cheadle-hulme-39666/

The key sentence is a quote from Pimlott's, the long-established Cheadle Hulme butchers, which now finds itself across the road from Waitrose:  'The coming of Waitrose to the centre of the village has helped keep us busy, because local people tend to shop locally.’

The truth is that it's a complex issue and it's very hard to predict what will happen - there are so many variables.  But what Pimlott's in Cheadle Hulme have found, I think, is that although they may have lost some business to Waitrose, that is more than compensated for by the greatly increased footfall in Cheadle Hulme centre which Waitrose has brought.  If having a proper supermarket in Marple stops the weekly exodus to Bredbury, Hazel Grove etc for supermarket shopping, we could find the same happens in Marple

But for me, the big downside of the Trinity Street/Chadwick Street scheme is that (despite Kirkland's protestations to the contrary) it will not help the college deal with its poor-quality estate. 

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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2012, 01:31:35 PM »
What is Marple in Actions view?

It seems like many of their points raised in objection to Hibbert Lane are also relevant here.

Traffic, house prices, elderley people being disturbed in their retirement, shops shutting etc....

Depending on which supermarket company appears on chadwick street, Marple would be affected in different ways.

Waitrose would bring in more traffic people from outside marple, shut down the butchers, fishmongers, delis and fruit shops.  Is waitrose really a competitor to Asda.  Very different customers!

If Aldi opened the co-op and iceland would suffer but local butchers and fishmonger, deli etc would survive.


what proof have you that it would close shops in marple .

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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2012, 09:19:21 PM »
What is Marple in Actions view?

It seems like many of their points raised in objection to Hibbert Lane are also relevant here.

Traffic, house prices, elderley people being disturbed in their retirement, shops shutting etc....

Depending on which supermarket company appears on chadwick street, Marple would be affected in different ways.

Waitrose would bring in more traffic people from outside marple, shut down the butchers, fishmongers, delis and fruit shops.  Is waitrose really a competitor to Asda.  Very different customers!

If Aldi opened the co-op and iceland would suffer but local butchers and fishmonger, deli etc would survive.