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NeilCorrie

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Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
« Reply #35 on: August 02, 2011, 11:23:24 PM »
Added : CAMSFC statement
Added : councillor briefing note
Updated : Stockport Sports Trust FOI denied
Updated : College FOI re covenant
Updated : College FOI re planning correspondence
Updated : College FOI re governor list
Updated : Council FOI re covenant
Updated : Council FOI re impact assessments
Updated : Council FOI re Buxton Lane development costs
Updated : Stockport Sports Trust FOI re marple sports


Overview
  • Cheadle+Marple college (CAMSFC) are investigating the sale of their Hibbert Lane campus. See CAMSFC Estates Committee minutes 17th June 2010, point 12..
  • In order to get an impression of prospective supermarket size, an aerial view of Tesco Glossop, Tesco Stockport Portwood and Hibbert Lane site can be seen here here
  • Councillor Sue Ingham (Chair of Marple Area Committee) confirmed on Monday 18th July that the college do intend to sell the site, that the land is designated for residential use only and that the councillors have requested a meeting with the college.  On 1st August 2011, the council released a copy of their briefing note on the matter, detailing their stance on the issue.
  • In July 2011, CAMSFC governor Stephen Downs, who is also a local resident, resigned his post of governor due to disagreement with college management concerning their plans for the supermarket.
  • Marple In Action representatives from this forum met with CAMSFC management (Christina Cassidy and Andrew Hubert) on Wednesday 27th July, key points:
    • Offers from two different supermarkets being considered by the college.
    • Contract to be signed in October, following College governors meeting.
    • Supermarkets aware that it is retail only per Council guidelines but believe they will be able to develop supermarket there nevertheless

Miss Marple

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Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
« Reply #34 on: August 02, 2011, 05:49:22 PM »
I am a resident of Upper Hibbert Lane and a Democratic Services Officer at a Local Authority for which I advise Planning Committees.  If I can be of any assistance please let me know.  I have not contacted my colleagues in Stockport yet regarding this application but would have thought as any non -residential development this would be a deviation from the existing UDP/Core Strategy, as such this decision would not be made by the Area Committee but at the Councils Planning & Highways Regulatory Committee.  The Area Committee would be consulted but not the decision maker.  I note with interest no Marple Members are currently appointed to the Regulatory Committee. 
How do we join the Regulatory Committee as I am sure one of our supporters would volunteer to become a member, what is it , what does it do, and when's the next one and have we any volunteers  ??? I would go but I don't think I could retain all the information at my age  ;). All advise and information about this is most welcomed   Thank you !

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Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
« Reply #33 on: August 02, 2011, 04:43:16 PM »
I am a resident of Upper Hibbert Lane and a Democratic Services Officer at a Local Authority for which I advise Planning Committees.  If I can be of any assitance please let me know.  I have not contacted my colleagues in Stockport yet regarding this application but would have thought as any non -residential development this would be a deviation from the existing UDP/Core Strategy, as such this decision would not be made by the Area Committee but at the Councils Planning & Highways Regulatory Committee.  The Area Committee would be consulted but not the decision maker.  I note with interest no Marple Members are currently appointed to the Regulatory Committee. 

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Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2011, 07:48:31 PM »
Here is the official council policy towards the Hibbert Lane site passed onto me this evening by Cllr. Andrew Bispham. It is really a consolidation of what Paul Lawrence said during the Area Committee in the Park session:

Cheadle and Marple Sixth Form College Site at Marple

Briefing to Marple members: Paul Lawrence, Service Director, Place Development

We are aware that Cheadle and Marple Sixth Form College is looking to fund campus improvements, and one option is to sell its Hibbert Lane site.

We understand that the College has carried out some market testing to establish the potential value of the land.

This site is not specifically allocated for residential development, but it is within a predominantly residential area. The playing field areas are allocated as Local Open Space.

We have informed the College of the appropriate uses of the site. These include: residential, educational and community uses, and some leisure limited to existing levels of provision.  Current policy states that existing levels of open space should be maintained.  Local retail development (less than 200 sq. metres in area), may be acceptable, should the developer be able to demonstrate that there were no alternative and suitable sites within or closer to the centre.

We consider that in planning policy terms, larger scale retail development on this site, above 200 sq. metres, is not acceptable. Any retail schemes in Stockport, outside existing shopping areas, need to show that there are no possible alternative sites within or closer to the centre. In addition, an `impact assessment` would need to be carried out, to determine whether or not the development would affect the vitality and viability of existing centres.

There have been no direct discussions between the Council and retail developers about the site, nor have there been any discussions about existing or new leisure provision.

We understand that any covenant on the land would not prevent its future development.


Briefing Note given to Marple Councillors at meeting on Friday 22/7/2011 @ 12:00
Mark Whittaker
The Marple Website

Duke Fame

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Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2011, 10:45:21 AM »
Can you list the known interested parties in the site?

NeilCorrie

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Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2011, 10:10:14 PM »
Added : CAMSFC governor Stephen Downs resigned over the supermarket issue

Overview
  • Cheadle+Marple college (CAMSFC) are investigating the sale of their Hibbert Lane campus. See CAMSFC Estates Committee minutes 17th June 2010, point 12.
  • In order to get an impression of prospective supermarket size, an aerial view of Tesco Glossop, Tesco Stockport Portwood and Hibbert Lane site can be seen here here
  • Councillor Sue Ingham (Chair of Marple Area Committee) confirmed on Monday 18th July that the college do intend to sell the site, that the land is designated for residential use only and that the councillors have requested a meeting with the college.
  • In July 2011, CAMSFC governor Stephen Downs, who is also a local resident, resigned his post of governor due to disagreement with college management concerning their plans for the supermarket.
  • Marple In Action representatives from this forum met with CAMSFC management (Christina Cassidy and Andrew Hubert) on Wednesday 27th July, key points:
    • Offers from two different supermarkets being considered by the college.
    • Contract to be signed in October, following College governors meeting.
    • Supermarkets aware that it is retail only per Council guidelines but believe they will be able to develop supermarket there nevertheless
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NeilCorrie

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Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2011, 04:19:24 PM »
Added : Side-by-side comparison of Tesco sites + Hibbert Lane (thanks Smithy166)

Overview
  • Marple In Action representatives from this forum met with CAMSFC management (Christina Cassidy and Andrew Hubert) on Wednesday 27th July, key points:
    • Offers from two different supermarkets being considered by the college.
    • Contract to be signed in October, following College governors meeting.
    • Supermarkets aware that it is retail only per Council guidelines but believe they will be able to develop supermarket there nevertheless

NeilCorrie

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Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2011, 10:41:39 PM »
Added : Maria's FOI for concerning Buxton Lane development costs

Overview
  • Marple In Action representatives from this forum met with CAMSFC management (Christina Cassidy and Andrew Hubert) on Wednesday 27th July, key points:
    • Offers from two different supermarkets being considered by the college.
    • Contract to be signed in October, following College governors meeting.
    • Supermarkets aware that it is retail only per Council guidelines but believe they will be able to develop supermarket there nevertheless

NeilCorrie

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Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2011, 10:32:02 PM »
Added : New FOI for college concerning finances

Overview
  • Marple In Action representatives from this forum met with CAMSFC management (Christina Cassidy and Andrew Hubert) on Wednesday 27th July, key points:
    • Offers from two different supermarkets being considered by the college.
    • Contract to be signed in October, following College governors meeting.
    • Supermarkets aware that it is retail only per Council guidelines but believe they will be able to develop supermarket there nevertheless

NeilCorrie

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Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2011, 08:52:39 PM »
Updated : Committee meeting, with youtube links

Overview
  • Marple In Action representatives from this forum met with CAMSFC management (Christina Cassidy and Andrew Hubert) on Wednesday 27th July, key points:
    • Offers from two different supermarkets being considered by the college.
    • Contract to be signed in October, following College governors meeting.
    • Supermarkets aware that it is retail only per Council guidelines but believe they will be able to develop supermarket there nevertheless

NeilCorrie

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Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2011, 08:24:50 PM »
Added : FOI for Stockport Sports Trust
Updated : FOI for accurate list of CAMSFC governors
Updated : FOI concerning covenants - still waiting for Buxton+Cheadle details
Updated : area committe meeting covered in Stockport Express
Updated : "off the record" meeting between CAMSFC and Council


Overview
  • Marple In Action representatives from this forum met with CAMSFC management (Christina Cassidy and Andrew Hubert) on Wednesday 27th July, key points:
    • Offers from two different supermarkets being considered by the college.
    • Contract to be signed in October, following College governors meeting.
    • Supermarkets aware that it is retail only per Council guidelines but believe they will be able to develop supermarket there nevertheless


Contact details
  • Local (Compstall) governor on the college board is Margaret McLay, email address unknown, phone number 0161 449 9598
  • Local MP is Andrew Stunell, email address enquiries@andrewstunell.org.uk, phone number 0161 406 7070.
  • CAMSFC contact for queries is Andrew Hubert, email address andrew.hubert@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
  • CAMSFC principal is Christina Cassidy, email address info@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
  • Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council is Paul Lawrence, email address paul.lawrence@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 474 4949

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Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2011, 12:13:25 PM »
Neil, good work. Im an acoustic consultant, and if you find any information relating to noise please let me have a look at it for comment/translation into english. :)

NeilCorrie

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Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2011, 10:40:46 PM »
Added : FOI for CAMSFC governor list (list on their site is wrong)
Updated : reference to councillor governor


Overview
  • Marple In Action representatives from this forum met with CAMSFC management (Christina Cassidy and Andrew Hubert) on Wednesday 27th July, key points:
    • Offers from two different supermarkets being considered by the college.
    • Contract to be signed in October, following College governors meeting.
    • Supermarkets aware that it is retail only per Council guidelines but believe they will be able to develop supermarket there nevertheless
  • Area Committe meeting at Marple Senior Citizens Hall, Memorial Park, Marple on Wednesday 27th July 6pm  MP Andrew Stunnell was not able to attend.  Councillors and hundreds of local residents were in attendence, so many that meeting had to be held in the park itself.
  • CAMSFC management are doing a press release w/c Monday 25th July.
  • Marple Business forum are meeting on tba to discuss.
  • As of Tuesday 26th July, 2,500 leaflets outlining the proposed development and associated implications have been distributed. Click here to view
  • An example objection letter/email suitable for editing and distributing to councillors has been posted on the Marple forum.
  • Stockport Council have obligations (via the covenant) to
    • use parts of the Hibbert Lane site for purposes of providing adult education
    • provide a leisure centre on the site
    • provide a youth club on the site.


Contact details

NeilCorrie

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Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2011, 10:24:44 PM »
    Added : FOI for noise/traffic/retail impact
    Updated : today's Area Committee meeting, today's CAMSFC meeting


    Overview
    • Marple In Action representatives from this forum met with CAMSFC management (Christina Cassidy and Andrew Hubert) on Wednesday 27th July, key points:
      • Offers from two different supermarkets being considered by the college.
      • Contract to be signed in October, following College governors meeting.
      • Supermarkets aware that it is retail only per Council guidelines but believe they will be able to develop supermarket there nevertheless
    • Area Committe meeting at Marple Senior Citizens Hall, Memorial Park, Marple on Wednesday 27th July 6pm  MP Andrew Stunnell was not able to attend.  Councillors and hundreds of local residents were in attendence, so many that meeting had to be held in the park itself.
    • CAMSFC management are doing a press release w/c Monday 25th July.
    • Marple Business forum are meeting on tba to discuss.
    • As of Tuesday 26th July, 2,500 leaflets outlining the proposed development and associated implications have been distributed. Click here to view
    • An example objection letter/email suitable for editing and distributing to councillors has been posted on the Marple forum.
    • Stockport Council have obligations (via the covenant) to
      • use parts of the Hibbert Lane site for purposes of providing adult education
      • provide a leisure centre on the site
      • provide a youth club on the site.


    Contact details
    • Local councillor acting as governor on the college board is Margaret McLay, email address cllr.margaret.mclay@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 449 9598.
    • Local MP is Andrew Stunell, email address enquiries@andrewstunell.org.uk, phone number 0161 406 7070.
    • CAMSFC contact for queries is Andrew Hubert, email address andrew.hubert@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
    • CAMSFC principal is Christina Cassidy, email address info@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
    • Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council is Paul Lawrence, email address paul.lawrence@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 474 4949

    NeilCorrie

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    Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
    « Reply #21 on: July 26, 2011, 10:34:52 PM »
    Added : Leaflet link - thanks Belle

    Overview
    • Forum member Miss Marple has scheduled a meeting with CAMSFC management and local press w/c Monday 25th July. More info tba.
    • Area Committe meeting at Marple Library, Memorial Park, Marple on Wednesday 27th July 6pm.  Open meeting, so public can (and are encouraged to) attend. MP and councillors will be available to respond to questions.  See earlier posting regarding format of meeting and use of question cards.
    • CAMSFC management are doing a press release w/c Monday 25th July.
    • Marple Business forum are meeting on tba to discuss.
    • As of Tuesday 26th July, 2,500 leaflets outlining the proposed development and associated implications have been distributed. Click here to view
    • An example objection letter/email suitable for editing and distributing to councillors has been posted on the Marple forum.
    • Stockport Council have obligations (via the covenant) to
      • use parts of the Hibbert Lane site for purposes of providing adult education
      • provide a leisure centre on the site
      • provide a youth club on the site.


    Contact details
    • Local councillor acting as governor on the college board is Margaret McLay, email address cllr.margaret.mclay@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 449 9598.
    • Local MP is Andrew Stunell, email address enquiries@andrewstunell.org.uk, phone number 0161 406 7070.
    • CAMSFC contact for queries is Andrew Hubert, email address andrew.hubert@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
    • CAMSFC principal is Christina Cassidy, email address info@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
    • Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council is Paul Lawrence, email address paul.lawrence@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 474 4949