Seventeen Windows

[Dave]

Don't worry Miss Marple, we're all avid readers of this topic - a record 2361 views (and counting!) testify to its superb entertainment value..... 

[Miss Marple]

I think everyone needs to re read all the posts regarding this subject ? It appears most of you have lost the thread or indeed the plot  Where is that Sooty 2  When we need sense and  sensibility ?

[Tricky]

I might just add that all the relevent planning application and supporting documents are available on the Council's planning database.

This provides you with the proposed scheme and any conditions etc..

Details of Planning Application - DC/027240


direct link http://planning.stockport.gov.uk/PlanningData/AcolNetCGI.gov?ACTION=UNWRAP&RIPNAME=Root.PgeResultDetail&TheSystemkey=27475

Link to the documents  http://interactive.stockport.gov.uk/edrms/onlinemvm/mvmedrms.asp?DCNumber=DC027240

[tina]

now then ladies! put your handbags down!!!
Lets just wait and see what the end result is shall we.....?
I have lived in Marple all my life and I can honestly say 17 windows has always been a focal point coming into Marple, but over the years it has been an eyesore! I must admit I prefer the new look to the old and the work being carried out at the moment will benefit the owner gaining access to his/her property safely. Yes some people don't like change but sometimes it is necessary, as was the work needed on 17 windows.
Does it really matter who lives the closest or the longest??? Honestly!

[Rachael]

If you have a third chance of buying it, I suggest going for it, it might stop all this distress of what is happening to it for you ... and of course, it will definitely give you the RIGHT TO  COMMENT MORE THAN MOST about the subject,   because unlike the two minutes living   away  from Seventeen windows  that gave you more rights  than us other mere mortals that like to post on the subject ,  the property will be yours to tell us what to do with any comments  we have !

Good luck
 

[Lisa Oldham]

so why didnt you manage to buy it?
and why do you think SMBC are doing the work? 

[Miss Marple]

Have you any idea of what the original building looked like.  Did you know that the same family lived there for generations up until its sale and guess what   I did try to purchase it twice.  Once before it went to auction and the second time before it was sold to the third buyer.  And believe me I WOULD have kept it in character of its surroundings.  Secondly have you not noticed that the work on the house has stopped, given that you live as near as me you could not have failed to notice that all the recent work has been carried out by SMBC not the owners of the property.  Oh dear looks like I may have a third chance of purchasing it !!!

[Rachael]

Quote  Miss Marple ...
I think that everyone has a right to comment on any given topic whilst others retain the right no to read it. So I stand by my original review and  feel possible more right than most to comment given that I live about a 2 min walk from it and see on a daily basis the devastation caused to the immediate are where I live.  Its my opinion that an attitude of lets wait and see what happens has sadly resulted in many historic building being knocked down.


am I missing something here, the building is being renovated, not knocked down!!  Had it not had the repairs done to it, then what you quote " an attitude of lets wait and see what happens, has sadly resulted in many historic buildings being knocked down " .. would probably be a certainty . .. but work is being done, and I think it will look great .

Historic, yes, the building is/ was ... but surely you could even see for yourself ( as you say, you only live two minutes away )  the building was falling into rack and ruin , would you have preferred it to stand as it was  for sentimental reasons ??

And as we know you live two minutes away  we are sure that you will know that the original  access to the property is  just dangerous , and anyone with any sense would change it .

As for you having more rights to comment because you live TWO minutes away rather than  some  others of us who may  live two and a half, maybe even three minutes away!  , I would say unless you had stuck your hand in your pocket and purchased the property yourself , then your rights to comment  are exactly the same as anybody else who chooses to read , contribute  or anything else , positive or negative to the topic  and no more  !

[sooty2]

Does anyone know when the pavement widening in this area will be completed? It seems to be dragging on and on and looks an eyesore.

[sooty2]

Thanks for your support Miss Marple. How naughty of me to mention Seventeen Windows and the immediate area around it still looking sad,sad,sad !

[Miss Marple]

I think that everyone has a right to comment on any given topic whilst others retain the right no to read it. So I stand by my original review and  feel possible more right than most to comment given that I live about a 2 min walk from it and see on a daily basis the devastation caused to the immediate are where I live.  Its my opinion that an attitude of lets wait and see what happens has sadly resulted in many historic building being knocked down..  Take Woodville for an example what was a gift to the people of Marple and served as a local community elderly peoples home was sold off historic furniture fittings and all.  The chandeliers, grand fire places and many other irreplaceable memorabilia were sold by the American company and shipped over to America for sale. 
Seventeen windows is yet just another place of interest that has been allowed to perish.  The building should have had a protection applied due to the intrest which has always surrounded it. But no it went to auction and has passed into several owners hands since that time.  What we are seeing is not in my opinion a restoration on seventeen windows, it serves no purpose only to turn it into a modern house.  I can not blame the present owners if they thought they could make a profit.  I do although blame the town planners for not being proactive in seeing that building regs were adhered too (crack in front of building)
To see what should have happened to seventeen windows we should look at what was once the old pub on Dooley Lane. The present owners have preserved the building and kept it in keeping with its historic value.
And finally re the Anderson shelter at Seventeen windows. Yes I would love you to put one in my garden if you could bring with it the smells and memorabilia there was in the one I played in many years ago in what was the beautiful gardens at SEVENTEEN WINDOWS!!!!

[twinkletoes]

There was an anderson shelter? How cool is that, you don't think about things like that now a days, and in marple! WOW I wonder how many other propertys have anderson shelters around here?

[Neil Smith]

Being a new member to the site I have read with intrest the comments regarding seventeen windows and as a Marple person born and bred I would like to say well done to Sooty2 (strange name) for their intrest in seventeen windows.  I agree with her it is an absolute disgrace and it has one wondering just what the planning department was thinking about when they allowed what looks like such ridicules plans to be agreed. Or did they ?? I am sure other readers noted when the front of the building split in two and it needed pinning together with Huge steel clips.  Now I am no building expert but even I know that when that happens its more than likely caused by the removal of a retaining wall or support, so WHY DIDN'T THE BUILDERS OR INDEED THE PLANNING DEPT KNOW!!!   Prior to the distruction of the building and the surrounding trees and historic Anderson shelter the same Marple family had lived there for generations.  So I applaud you Sooty 2 for your informed and interesting comments.

Like so many people have said already please keep your comments to your self about what is happening to the property until they have FINISHED and then lets pass comment on the works. Yes it looks disgusting at the moment but they are not finshed yet, it must be better than it was with no one living in it a few years back when it was close to falling down.

It does look like they are going to have a drive in drive out, driveway and the banking could be a possible alpine garden (or similar) and if kept nice with no high trees or fences would be a really nice "gate" into Marple for everyone to enjoy.

So what that an anderson shelter has been removed I will build you one in your back garden Miss Marple if you want all you need is a big piece of wriggly tin and a big hole. Nothing of special intrest lost there.

I will agree with you though Miss Marple re Marple hall and the royal family but that's a differnet story.

[Miss Marple]

 Being a new member to the site I have read with intrest the comments regarding seventeen windows and as a Marple person born and bred I would like to say well done to Sooty2 (strange name) for their intrest in seventeen windows.  I agree with her it is an absolute disgrace and it has one wondering just what the planning department was thinking about when they allowed what looks like such ridicules plans to be agreed. Or did they ?? I am sure other readers noted when the front of the building split in two and it needed pinning together with Huge steel clips.  Now I am no building expert but even I know that when that happens its more than likely caused by the removal of a retaining wall or support, so WHY DIDN'T THE BUILDERS OR INDEED THE PLANNING DEPT KNOW!!!   Prior to the distruction of the building and the surrounding trees and historic Anderson shelter the same Marple family had lived there for generations.  So I applaud you Sooty 2 for your informed and interesting comments.

[sooty2]

Barbara, I tried to rest this case seven posts back. You are obviously bored by the subject,but upto the present time 1368 people have been interested enough to keep reading "Seventeen Windows".