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Brabyns Brow Access Road to Park – Carriageway Resurfacing Works
Stockport Council is undertaking a programme of repairs across the borough as part of our ‘Investing in Stockport’ initiative. One of the key themes of the programme is investing in Stockport’s economic growth and regeneration to create more opportunities for local residents. As part of the programme, Stockport Council will be carrying out carriageway resurfacing works on the access road to Brabyns Brow Park (see plan below for extents of the works). This work will be carried out by our Alliance Partner Totally Local Company.
The work is scheduled to start week commencing Monday 24th February 2019 taking up to 5 days to complete, weather allowing, and will be carried out between the hours of 09:00 and 15:30.
Access will be maintained where possible but will be restricted for approximately 3 hours from 09:00 to Noon whilst the top surface is being laid to allow it time to set. This is estimated to be on the Thursday. While some disruption is inevitable, this will be kept to a minimum by our staff on site. I would like to take this opportunity to apologise for any inconvenience that may be caused by this work.
As part of our commitment to improve services it would help us if you completed a short online questionnaire providing feedback on the work when it has been carried out. The survey is available online at http://www.stockport.gov.uk/hipfeedback (http://www.stockport.gov.uk/hipfeedback) and will only take a few minutes to complete. To begin please quote the 6 digit reference number (191145). Thank you for taking the time to complete the survey.
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Brabyns Brow Access Road to Park – Carriageway Resurfacing Works
Stockport Council is undertaking a programme of repairs across the borough as part of our ‘Investing in Stockport’ initiative. One of the key themes of the programme is investing in Stockport’s economic growth and regeneration to create more opportunities for local residents. As part of the programme, Stockport Council will be carrying out carriageway resurfacing works on the access road to Brabyns Brow Park (see plan below for extents of the works). This work will be carried out by our Alliance Partner Totally Local Company.
The work is scheduled to start week commencing Monday 24th February 2019 taking up to 5 days to complete, weather allowing, and will be carried out between the hours of 09:00 and 15:30.
Access will be maintained where possible but will be restricted for approximately 3 hours from 09:00 to Noon whilst the top surface is being laid to allow it time to set. This is estimated to be on the Thursday. While some disruption is inevitable, this will be kept to a minimum by our staff on site. I would like to take this opportunity to apologise for any inconvenience that may be caused by this work.
As part of our commitment to improve services it would help us if you completed a short online questionnaire providing feedback on the work when it has been carried out. The survey is available online at http://www.stockport.gov.uk/hipfeedback (http://www.stockport.gov.uk/hipfeedback) and will only take a few minutes to complete. To begin please quote the 6 digit reference number (191145). Thank you for taking the time to complete the survey.
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Thanks for info certainly needs doing .
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The Marple Bridge entrance does need resurfacing, but in reality this only benefits car drivers, There is no suggestion of improving the path from the car park to the pedestrian refuge on Station Road while they are in the area, and still no suggestion of surfacing the entrance and path through the park from the Compstall end so that people can cycle or walk from Compstall to Marple Station etc., or visitors to the area to be able to cycle or walk through Brabyns Park to Etherow Country Park.
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The Marple Bridge entrance does need resurfacing, but in reality this only benefits car drivers, There is no suggestion of improving the path from the car park to the pedestrian refuge on Station Road while they are in the area, and still no suggestion of surfacing the entrance and path through the park from the Compstall end so that people can cycle or walk from Compstall to Marple Station etc., or visitors to the area to be able to cycle or walk through Brabyns Park to Etherow Country Park.
Are you still going on about this its a unadopted road .
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Are you still going on about this its a unadopted road .
I can see the future. And the future consists of this being pointed out again and again for years to come.
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Are you still going on about this its a unadopted road .
If it’s unadopted, why are the council spending our money on resurfacing it?
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If it’s unadopted, why are the council spending our money on resurfacing it?
The unadopted road is Rollins Lane which they're definitely not doing anything on. Cos it's unadopted.
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If it’s unadopted, why are the council spending our money on resurfacing it?
They aren't resurfacing the unadopted road. They are resurfacing the entrance road to the park / car park.
The road that CTREP is on about (bit of a hobby-horse as amazon points out) is the one between the Iron Bridge and Compstall known as Rollins Lane.
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They aren't resurfacing the unadopted road. They are resurfacing the entrance road to the park / car park.
The road that CTREP is on about (bit of a hobby-horse as amazon points out) is the one between the Iron Bridge and Compstall known as Rollins Lane.
Thanks admin
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Stockport MBC is well practised in coming up with excuses why they should not cater for many of their residents, it doesn’t need any assistance from others. So why Amazon are you so personally opposed to improving Stockport by continually disparaging a plea to have Rollins Lane properly surfaced so that people can walk or cycle between Compstall and Marple?
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Stockport MBC is well practised in coming up with excuses why they should not cater for many of their residents, it doesn’t need any assistance from others. So why Amazon are you so personally opposed to improving Stockport by continually disparaging a plea to have Rollins Lane properly surfaced so that people can walk or cycle between Compstall and Marple?
Because they will be spending money on a unadopted road that could be spent elswere thats more inportant .there is a main road were people can walk cycle .to compstall Marple
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Stockport MBC is well practised in coming up with excuses why they should not cater for many of their residents, it doesn’t need any assistance from others. So why Amazon are you so personally opposed to improving Stockport by continually disparaging a plea to have Rollins Lane properly surfaced so that people can walk or cycle between Compstall and Marple?
Why are you trying to ride roughshod over other people land. Has it occurred to you that the land owners of Rolling land don't want it surfaced.
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there is a main road were people can walk cycle .to compstall Marple
there speaks someone who doesn't cycle very much. The "main road" through compstall is not nice to cycle along, it's much more pleasant to cycle when you are not constantly in fear of an inattentive driver accidentally clipping you and knocking you off. While there are undoubtedly good drivers on the roads, many do not realise just how intimidating it can be for cyclists to be passed at high speed and close proximity. We should be trying to encourage people to walk and cycle (and use public transport) more often and while there is a constant clamouring for roads to be improved, we're not going to get to thet state where @CTCREP's entirely reasonable suggestion should be considered - we should encourage people from Compstall to reach Marple and the railway station on foot, by bike or by public transport, NOT by spending money on other roads
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there speaks someone who doesn't cycle very much. The "main road" through compstall is not nice to cycle along, it's much more pleasant to cycle when you are not constantly in fear of an inattentive driver accidentally clipping you and knocking you off. While there are undoubtedly good drivers on the roads, many do not realise just how intimidating it can be for cyclists to be passed at high speed and close proximity. We should be trying to encourage people to walk and cycle (and use public transport) more often and while there is a constant clamouring for roads to be improved, we're not going to get to thet state where @CTCREP's entirely reasonable suggestion should be considered - we should encourage people from Compstall to reach Marple and the railway station on foot, by bike or by public transport, NOT by spending money on other roads
So would you use rollins lane at night or morning when dark .
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I do currently, I regularly commute to Hyde by bicycle via Rollins lane and School Lane (3 times so far this week) - but then I'm the odd one who believes in commuting by bike and train, rather than sitting in a car
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Well said NBT, and as one who has cycled from the suburbs to the centre of London, Birmingham and Manchester, I am well aware that those making decisions in Stockport have no idea how to cater for cyclists. The attached letter will show where Stockport MBC's priorities are, and will clear up some misconceptions.
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there speaks someone who doesn't cycle very much. The "main road" through compstall is not nice to cycle along, it's much more pleasant to cycle when you are not constantly in fear of an inattentive driver accidentally clipping you and knocking you off. While there are undoubtedly good drivers on the roads, many do not realise just how intimidating it can be for cyclists to be passed at high speed and close proximity. We should be trying to encourage people to walk and cycle (and use public transport) more often and while there is a constant clamouring for roads to be improved, we're not going to get to thet state where @CTCREP's entirely reasonable suggestion should be considered - we should encourage people from Compstall to reach Marple and the railway station on foot, by bike or by public transport, NOT by spending money on other roads
Frankly I don't even like driving along the upper end of Compstall Road between the Spring Gardens and Windsor Castle. Spacewise it's very tight. I can't say I'd be keen to cycle on it at rush hour.
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Well said NBT, and as one who has cycled from the suburbs to the centre of London, Birmingham and Manchester, I am well aware that those making decisions in Stockport have no idea how to cater for cyclists. The attached letter will show where Stockport MBC's priorities are, and will clear up some misconceptions.
Or to put it another way, they don't agree with your personal assessment that it's a vital cycling corridor. Personally I I have never seen a bike on Rollins Lane. I have seen plenty of walkers and horse riders (and cars), and a council with limited money (thanks to cuts in government grants from Mr Wragg's party) has to prioritise.
Still if you want to start fundraising, I'll put my hands in my pockets and contribute.
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I do currently, I regularly commute to Hyde by bicycle via Rollins lane and School Lane (3 times so far this week) - but then I'm the odd one who believes in commuting by bike and train, rather than sitting in a car
when its dark .
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I'm usally at my desk before 08.30, and leave after 16.30, year round, so I'm definitely using Rollins Lane in the dark through December and January. I can show you the GPS logs of my journey. I often meet dog walkers on Rollins Lane, occasionally runners and other walkers, sometimes cyclists. I don't recall ever having seen a horse, though I have seen horse poo so I can believe it. when the mornings get lighter, I often stop on Iron bridge to watch the dippers and occasional kingfishers
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It is not just my personal assessment, that of a cyclist with many years experience and on many miles of road cycling both in Britain and elsewhere, but also that of those trying to help combat the Climate Change problem. I know of one lady who lives close to the Rollins Lane entrance who will suffer the rough surface of Rollins Lane during the summer to cycle to attend classes at the Pavilion, but as soon as it has rained then she will drive down to Marple Bridge and back up through the park rather than suffer the atrocious conditions of Rollins Lane and the path to the Pavilion.
Currently Stockport is likely to receive money from a Mayoral Fund to encourage cycling and walking. So Andrew you shouldn't have to put your hand in your pocket, you just need to support proposals that will increase cycling, and ideally in the Marple Romiley area. So far there are none proposed for this area despite the Council knowing they have put on hold the completion of the Connect2 project to link Marple with Stockport via Chadkirk, and ignoring my frequent pleas to the Council to make Rollins Lane suitable for cycling. If you don't support the Marple area then all the money will go elsewhere, mostly on insignificant changes that will do nothing to make cycling a possibility.
Below are a couple of photos, one is typical of Rollins Lane for much of the year, and the other the work being done in the Mellor Strines area to resurface several sections of bridleway that few people use other than those who have chosen to live in remote areas. There is probably about a mile in total of this surfacing.
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I'm quite happy to support proposals that increase cycling. I like cycling. Cycling is a great exercise. If I didn't work from home, my preference would be to cycle to work. Personally I'd be happy to cycle through that muddy puddle cos to be honest, I've gone through far worse looking on the canal towpath to Romiley. I respect that not everyone would.
So what I am saying is that you have a personal bias in favour of upgrading Rollins Lane, and you believe it has to be prioritised. And clearly the council has an opposing view.
I don't know which is right I don't have the council's priority list. I don't have the evidence they presumably have. But what I am sure is that they'll be prioritising the schemes they believe will have the biggest impact.
Either way, one of you is wrong in your assessment. And CTCREP I have to break it to you. But I have to. When you stack all the priorities up, it might be the council who is wrong. But it also might be you that is wrong.
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I'm usally at my desk before 08.30, and leave after 16.30, year round, so I'm definitely using Rollins Lane in the dark through December and January. I can show you the GPS logs of my journey. I often meet dog walkers on Rollins Lane, occasionally runners and other walkers, sometimes cyclists. I don't recall ever having seen a horse, though I have seen horse poo so I can believe it. when the mornings get lighter, I often stop on Iron bridge to watch the dippers and occasional kingfishers
I've cycled Rollins Lane and I though it was reasonable in daylight. But your comments @nbt suggest that it is suitable for cycling even at night.
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I know what it's like, therefore I dress appropriately. I wear my cyclig gear for my commute, as I know I will have to change clothes at work. I also have some good cycling lights, in order that I can commute by bike year round.
In the dry (usually in summer), Rollins lane is fine.
in the wet (spring, autumn, most of winter and ocasionally in summer) Rollins Lane - like many other "cycle routes" in Stockport such as Dark Lane and the new path from marple Hall to Chadkirk - is a wet, muddy mess.
As I said, I know what it's like and I'm prepared for it. I keep a change of clothes at work, and we have drying cabinets which I can use so that my cycle clothes are ready for my homeward trip. Not everyone wants or needs to change clothes after a cycle commute - if I was only commuting to the station for instance, I'd wear my office clothes - but I wouldn't be able to do that though muddy puddles
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And when the Mayor of Greater Manchester has a fund to encourage cycling why is Stockport Council so averse to catering for cycling and enabling you to get to work etc without being covered in mud or worse.
This is how the French cater for their equivalent of the Middlewood Way. If we are to encouraging cycling in preference to cars then this is what is needed. Stockport MBC must really move itself into the 20th century, let alone the 21st.
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And when the Mayor of Greater Manchester has a fund to encourage cycling why is Stockport Council so averse to catering for cycling and enabling you to get to work etc without being covered in mud or worse.
This is how the French cater for their equivalent of the Middlewood Way. If we are to encouraging cycling in preference to cars then this is what is needed. Stockport MBC must really move itself into the 20th century, let alone the 21st.
Its to wide for rollins lane
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Oh do shut up. It's not too wide at all. If you have nothing positive to say, say nothing
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Oh do shut up. It's not too wide at all. If you have nothing positive to say, say nothing
Isugest they put up the rates to pay for it .or you could do crowd funding .
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Isugest they put up the rates to pay for it .or you could do crowd funding .
Rates were abolished in 1990. Living in the past?
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Rates were abolished in 1990. Living in the past?
Community charge then
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Community charge then
The Community Charge was abolished in 1993, 27 years ago. You really have to try and keep up.
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The Community Charge was abolished in 1993, 27 years ago. You really have to try and keep up.
i ment business rates
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i ment business rates
If you're in a hole...stop digging.
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If you're in a hole...stop digging.
Bernard cribbins if your old enougth
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Bernard cribbins if your old enougth
It started in The Washington Post in 1911 actually. I believe that was pre Bernard Cribbens.
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It started in The Washington Post in 1911 actually. I believe that was pre Bernard Cribbens.
Cant remember that far back