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Stockport Council Consultation on Museums
Stockport Council is consulting on proposals to make savings by reducing the number of museum sites run by Stockport Council; changing the opening hours at Stockport’s museums and; changing the fees and charges for admission to Stockport's museums.
The consultation closes on 18 November and until then you can have your say via this link:
https://consultation.stockport.gov.uk/policy-performance-and-reform/museums-consultation-2019/ (https://consultation.stockport.gov.uk/policy-performance-and-reform/museums-consultation-2019/)
The consultation allows you to say whether you like these proposals or not.
Here's the full Overview:
Central government funding for councils is reducing. The Council has already made savings of £100 million in recent years while delivering and even improving services for the residents of Stockport. Over the coming years we’ll be faced with further difficult decisions about how to prioritise our spending.
In 2020/21, we need to make savings of £10 million. We want your views on a range of proposals which would contribute £4.2m to this target.
We need your help to get the savings proposals right for Stockport. We want to hear from you and want your views on these proposals being put forward to make these savings.
This consultation will allow you to have your say on the proposals to reduce the museums budget by £150,000 by:
- Reducing the number of museum sites run by Stockport Council;
- Changing the opening hours at Stockport’s museums and;
- Changing the fees and charges for admission to Stockport's museums
A fourth proposal, to reduce the management of the museum teams would be implemented if the above proposals to reduce the number of sites and change the opening hours were agreed.
Please ensure we receive your views by 18th November 2019. It is important that we receive your views by this date as all feedback will be pulled together into a report which will then be considered by Scrutiny Committees and then at the Cabinet meeting in December.
A paper copy can be requested in Libraries.
If you require this consultation in an alternative format, please contact: consultation@stockport.gov.uk
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Yet another Council proposal to reduce facilities in order to cut costs. While cutting costs may be necessary there are more ways than one, and the major one is ensuring the Council doesn’t waste money in the first place by paying salaries to incompetent people. Unless things have changed, when you go to the Hat Museum the lighting is so low you cannot read the descriptions. The same applies to the Stockport Museum, neither encourages you to recommend it to others.
Chadkirk Chapel is under threat and although this may be saved by calling on Volunteers, unfortunately this means Stockport Council will still be mainly in charge and who have shown their incompetence in the past. In my opinion the Chapel's Audio-Visual display was the best I have ever seen. I think it was a 6 projector system. Repeated complaints to the Council that one of the projectors wan’t working produced no result until it was eventually changed to a DVD presentation but still without the 6th set of slides so it destroyed the whole experience. How many people even know it is there even with all its faults?
Taking things closer to Marple. For years I have been trying to persuade Stockport Council to provide an information board near the Middlewood Way and Rosehill Station to show what attractions are in the area. Instead they put up elaborate Corporate Notice Boards in all the parks which are almost out of date the day after they are erected - are the phone numbers relevant and are they manned all the time?
There is no point in having Museums etc if they are not attractive to visit, and if we have no Museums etc then there is little to do in Stockport other than looking at Fred Perry House and wondering why it is there.
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Ensuring the Council doesn’t waste money in the first place by paying salaries to incompetent people.
Or simply buying white elephants or undertaking "improvements" on things we neither need nor want.
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The council also has a number of other consultations currently, listed below with closing dates.
Support Funds Consultation (4 November 2019)
Greater Manchester's Cycling and Walking Network- Stockport Proposals (8 November 2019)
Special Educational Needs and Disabilities Transport Consultation (11 November 2019)
Street Cleaning Consultation 2019 (11 November 2019)
Libraries Consultation 2019 (15 November 2019)
All can be completed online https://consultation.stockport.gov.uk/
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The council also has a number of other consultations currently, listed below with closing dates.
Support Funds Consultation (4 November 2019)
Greater Manchester's Cycling and Walking Network- Stockport Proposals (8 November 2019)
Special Educational Needs and Disabilities Transport Consultation (11 November 2019)
Street Cleaning Consultation 2019 (11 November 2019)
Libraries Consultation 2019 (15 November 2019)
All can be completed online https://consultation.stockport.gov.uk/
Just jumped onto these and completed each one. I'm sure it'll make absolutely no difference. We'll still have an oversized, overzealous highways department who cost us a fortune both in what they spend, cost us as officers of the council but continue to turn Stockport into the speed bump capital of Europe. Unwittingly crippling all of our abilities to get to work to earn a crust and pay our council taxes to fund they very things they're trying to cut back on. Stockport Council really don't get it in my opinion.
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An interesting take here on jimblob's point about roads "crippling all of our abilities to get to work to earn a crust and pay our council taxes"
https://www.ft.com/content/d4fb89b0-ee61-11e9-ad1e-4367d8281195
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An interesting take here on jimblob's point about roads "crippling all of our abilities to get to work to earn a crust and pay our council taxes"
https://www.ft.com/content/d4fb89b0-ee61-11e9-ad1e-4367d8281195
A reasoned argument and I don't disagree with any of it. Where I regularly work (Aberdeen) I do in fact walk to work and use the bus and don't use a car. But there are afew distinct issues and differences in Stockport's approach over the situation both in Aberdeen and also from the article which is based around Nottingham. The article states that...
"the key to winning businesses’ support was that the money was ringfenced for transport"
In stockport not so... they just waste money on stuff that provides no tangible benefit.
secondly
The council retained a controlling stake in the main bus company when the government enforced mass privatisation in the 1980s. It co-ordinates with the only other operator, a family run group called Trent Barton, to ensure cheap, comprehensive coverage.
again in Stockport, not so and our bus systems are sadly lacking and too expensive.
Stockport seem hell bent on penalising the motorist but offer no viable alternatives; therein lies the flaw in their strategy. Andy Burnham has got it right, but he's years away from his integrated transport plan coming to fruition. In the meantime, Stockport can't keep hitting the humble car owner, it needs to offer a better alternative FIRST!
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we can't wait for one before the other. both need to evolve together, and that means shouting about it and voting out the wasteful councillors.
https://betterbusesgm.org.uk/better-buses-manchester-homepage
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we can't wait for one before the other. both need to evolve together, and that means shouting about it and voting out the wasteful councillors.
https://betterbusesgm.org.uk/better-buses-manchester-homepage
So you're propsing traffic armageddon before utopia?
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it's time to admit the currenty strategy isn't working. Building new roads is NOT going to reduce traffic, it will at best redistribute it and more likely over a longer term will increase traffic. While we do need to ensure our existing roads are suitable for use, we need to prioritise our efforts to reduce single passenger vehicle use, which means makign it more attractive - cost, efficiency, general provision - to use public transport rather than use the car. Not even electric cars will help this as an electric car takes the same amount of road space as a non-electric car
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it's time to admit the currenty strategy isn't working. Building new roads is NOT going to reduce traffic, it will at best redistribute it and more likely over a longer term will increase traffic. While we do need to ensure our existing roads are suitable for use, we need to prioritise our efforts to reduce single passenger vehicle use, which means makign it more attractive - cost, efficiency, general provision - to use public transport rather than use the car. Not even electric cars will help this as an electric car takes the same amount of road space as a non-electric car
What strategy?
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Public Meeting on the Threatened Closure of Chadkirk Chapel
Saturday 9 November at 2pm in Chadkirk Chapel
As we know, Stockport Council is currently consulting on proposals to save £150k from the Museums budget.
One of the suggestions is to cease opening Chadkirk Chapel to the public (currently it is open on Saturday and Sunday afternoons). The consultation document mentions the possibility that local groups may like to take this on. The Friends of Chadkirk Chapel group is concerned about the the impact of this proposal, both in terms of public access to a building of significant historical interest and the effect upon the fabric of the building should it be closed up except for use as a wedding venue a few times each year.
They have organised a public meeting to discuss the issues and try to find constructive solutions/suggestions.
Please attend if this is of interest to you.
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Will the Chadkirk Chapel petition be made available online for those that can't attend?
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If Chadkirk Chapel doesn't open on Saturday and Sunday afternoons then I would think the number of weddings using as a venue will diminish, as nobody will know what it will be like inside.
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Will the Chadkirk Chapel petition be made available online for those that can't attend?
Hi @Nwra
I've raised this question with the Friends of Chadkirk and they will consider this and let us know.
Of course what you can do (and should do if you don't like this proposal) is to respond accordingly to the consultation before it closes on 18 November.
Here's the link again: https://consultation.stockport.gov.uk/policy-performance-and-reform/museums-consultation-2019/ (https://consultation.stockport.gov.uk/policy-performance-and-reform/museums-consultation-2019/)
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Momentum is gathering against the proposals to close Chadkirk Chapel to the public
Following the meeting at the weekend the momentum is gathering against the council's proposals to close Chadkirk Chapel to the public.
There is now a Facebook group here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2462884907300532/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/2462884907300532/)
And a great little video here:
https://vimeo.com/372634029 (https://vimeo.com/372634029)