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Title: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: Claire Vibert on February 21, 2019, 07:22:09 AM
Hello everyone, thank you for the opportunity to introduce myself.

My name is Claire Vibert, and I am your Labour candidate in Marple North.

I live in Marple with my husband and three children who attend St Sebastian’s nursery and St Mary’s school, and I play an active part in our community. I run the Red Box Project in Marple, which ensures that girls in our local schools don’t miss out on their education because of period poverty. I’ve helped set up a parent-led group to call for better funding for our schools. And I’m involved with Equality Matters Marple which promotes equality in our local area.
 
I’ve put myself forward for these elections as I want to give something back to the community. My five pledges for Marple North are to:
 
1. Ensure we have a modern and well-maintained swimming pool in Marple, for the residents of Marple to benefit from;
2. Work to improve traffic issues to make our roads safer and cleaner, and make public transport more effective;
3. Continue to campaign to increase the funding our local schools receive, so that they can provide our children with the education they deserve;
4. Engage and listen to the community: many people tell me that they do not feel listened to, and this needs to change;
5. Stand up for the vulnerable across Stockport, who are suffering most from the effects of Tory austerity.

I will work hard to build on the successes of the Labour-led Stockport council, the most recent of which is to introduce the real living wage for all care workers across Stockport. I encourage voters to vote according to their values and leave behind the tired claims that tactical voting is the only way to keep the Tories out. The last two general elections show this doesn’t work. And at the local level, Stockport Council will be run by either Labour or the Lib Dems. So a vote for Labour is the only way to ensure Labour can continue their work of the last two years. As the Labour Party, we are active throughout the year on the issues that make a difference to people’s lives, both as local volunteers, for example through collecting food bank donations, and leading the council by protecting services despite the government’s budget cuts.

I’ll check back on here regularly, and you can also keep up to date with us on Facebook on the Labour4Marple page, and on Twitter @MarpleLabour. You can email me at marplelabour@gmail.com

Thanks again to the Marple website for all your effort in running this resource for the community.

Kind regards

Claire
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: ringi on March 05, 2019, 03:44:48 PM
Are you willing to outlaw parents driving their children to/from school so as to make it safe for children to wall/cycle to/from school?

(Or is "nice words" all you are willing to do for road safety)
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: jimblob on March 05, 2019, 06:22:25 PM
Hello everyone, thank you for the opportunity to introduce myself.

My name is Claire Vibert, and I am your Labour candidate in Marple North.

I’ve put myself forward for these elections as I want to give something back to the community. My five pledges for Marple North are to:
 
1. Ensure we have a modern and well-maintained swimming pool in Marple, for the residents of Marple to benefit from;
2. Work to improve traffic issues to make our roads safer and cleaner, and make public transport more effective

Kind regards
Claire
2. Work to improve traffic issues
can you be more specific on your use of the word "Improve"? Making the roads safer, cleaner and making public transport more effective is a rather generic statement and unlikely to improve the actual traffic issues for the majority of motorists who live in Marple or those who might wish to visit.
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: Claire Vibert on March 07, 2019, 12:23:43 PM
Are you willing to outlaw parents driving their children to/from school so as to make it safe for children to wall/cycle to/from school?

(Or is "nice words" all you are willing to do for road safety)

Hi, thanks for the question. I would like to work with local schools to increase the number of children who are able to walk to school, either from home or in a ‘walking bus’ arrangement from a location where parking is safer. Some parents will always need to drive to school, either because of distance or because they need to go on to work. And the areas around our schools are not designed for the number of cars driving and parking. As a parent and a resident who lives near a school (not the one my children attend although we do walk about 80% of the time), I know how difficult this issue is. I think there needs to be full cooperation between schools, parents, the council, and the wider community with clear conversations to find practical solutions, and the first thing I would do on this issue is to bring people together to find the best solutions as I think it’s something we all need to work together on.

Claire
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: Claire Vibert on March 07, 2019, 01:59:12 PM
2. Work to improve traffic issues
can you be more specific on your use of the word "Improve"? Making the roads safer, cleaner and making public transport more effective is a rather generic statement and unlikely to improve the actual traffic issues for the majority of motorists who live in Marple or those who might wish to visit.

Hello, thanks for your question. I do appreciate that short statements and candidate leaflets tend towards the generic, and this is a huge issue that could be discussed at length.
The first thing to say is that I don’t have all the answers right away. As a councillor I would work with the relevant officers and take expert advice on the best way to tackle transport issues.
I know from my own experience and the conversations I’ve had with other local residents that traffic speed and volume is a huge concern. Station Road down to Brabyn’s Brow is just one example where vehicles drive too fast and it’s far too difficult to cross the road safely. This is really off-putting for pedestrians and I know causes a lot of parents to choose to drive their children to Marple Bridge to school rather than walk (which of course adds to the traffic). I’d like to investigate the best way to slow traffic down on that stretch of road, and get more safe road crossings in place, especially by the train station and the park.

On transport more generally, I support a holistic approach to create a better integrated public transport system, where public transport is an easy and relief option over car journeys. There are some good proposals in the Marple Neighbourhood Plan to improve the area for cycling and walking, and I support both the proposals themselves and the approach of finding local solutions. That said, we also need to be part of the infrastructure of Greater Manchester as a whole, and I welcome the proposals from the Mayor to link Marple to the Metrolink by train-tram.

By reducing traffic volume through public transport, and improved walking and cycling options, and traffic calming, air quality will be improved, with health and environmental benefits.

Claire
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: ringi on March 07, 2019, 03:44:11 PM
Some parents will always need to drive to school, either because of distance or because they need to go on to work.

Given that other councillors in your party have been willing and able to stop parents driving near schools, why are you not? 

see https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jul/13/uk-schools-move-to-ban-the-school-run-to-protect-pupils-from-air-pollution and https://www.hackneycitizen.co.uk/2017/03/23/parents-face-fines-driving-kids-school/

Sorry at present all your answers sound the same as all other candidates, yet they don't have the bandage of the leader of your party. 
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: jimblob on March 07, 2019, 05:00:45 PM
By reducing traffic volume through public transport, and improved walking and cycling options, and traffic calming, air quality will be improved, with health and environmental benefits.

Claire
Thanks for the more detailed response. Sadly though, all your suggested "improvements" are actually very anti-car, penalise the motorist and appear to exclude motorists from an "holistic" approach. They focus on improved public transport, walking and cycling. Whilst this is all very honourable and can help ameliorate our traffic woes, it is very long term, idealistic, almost generational and offers no tangible hope for commuters who's only practical option is the car.
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: Claire Vibert on March 07, 2019, 05:31:45 PM
Given that other councillors in your party have been willing and able to stop parents driving near schools, why are you not? 

see https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jul/13/uk-schools-move-to-ban-the-school-run-to-protect-pupils-from-air-pollution and https://www.hackneycitizen.co.uk/2017/03/23/parents-face-fines-driving-kids-school/

Sorry at present all your answers sound the same as all other candidates, yet they don't have the bandage of the leader of your party.

Hi again. Thanks for sharing those articles. The Guardian one talks about ‘park and stride’ schemes, which is the same as the ‘walking bus’ I mentioned. I think this could work really well, by removing the need to drive close to school whilst still allowing parents who need to, to drive from home. It’s clear this kind of thing can work really well. I would see my role as being to bring schools, parents and residents on board to find the right solution for each area. I don’t think anyone would argue that we have a real problem with traffic and parking near our schools and I agree with you that we should be ambitious.

Claire
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: Claire Vibert on March 07, 2019, 05:39:11 PM
Thanks for the more detailed response. Sadly though, all your suggested "improvements" are actually very anti-car, penalise the motorist and appear to exclude motorists from an "holistic" approach. They focus on improved public transport, walking and cycling. Whilst this is all very honourable and can help ameliorate our traffic woes, it is very long term, idealistic, almost generational and offers no tangible hope for commuters who's only practical option is the car.

Hi, thanks for your reply. Some of the things I mentioned such as traffic calming, can be done quite quickly. However, we do need to be ambitious and think long-term otherwise real change won’t happen. I absolutely appreciate that there are lots of people who rely on their car to commute. By making the changes I mention however, we can:
a) reduce the number of unnecessary journeys which will benefit those who do need to use their car as the roads will be quieter (by encouraging walking to school/the train station for example); and
b) in the longer term, reduce the number of people who rely on their car.

Claire
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: Howard on March 07, 2019, 08:17:14 PM
You're fighting a losing battle on traffic here Claire, @jimblob will criticise it. 90% of his posts complain about the traffic, the only solutions to which appear to be removing anything which might slow traffic down to give pedestrians and cyclists a better experience.
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: amazon on March 07, 2019, 09:26:24 PM
Hi, thanks for your reply. Some of the things I mentioned such as traffic calming, can be done quite quickly. However, we do need to be ambitious and think long-term otherwise real change won’t happen. I absolutely appreciate that there are lots of people who rely on their car to commute. By making the changes I mention however, we can:
a) reduce the number of unnecessary journeys which will benefit those who do need to use their car as the roads will be quieter (by encouraging walking to school/the train station for example); and
b) in the longer term, reduce the number of people who rely on their car.

Claire
U have not come up with any use full solution at all .What do you mean train station for  example .
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: admin on March 08, 2019, 07:15:49 AM
U have not come up with any use full solution at all .What do you mean train station for  example .

I know you don't mean it @amazon but your post comes across as blunt and rude. Everyone, please remain polite and friendly.

Claire's reference to the train station is about encouraging people to walk to it instead of drive. Whether you agree with that or not it should be easy enough to understand.
   
Improving Marple's traffic situation is a huge challenge. This is going to be an ongoing problem for all councillors whatever banner they work under. Personally I don't think that there are going to be any quick fixes that will make very much difference but perhaps those who think they know best could make some polite suggestions as to what they would do and maybe shape our prospective new councillor's policy, should she be elected. It would also be interesting to hear other candidates views on this matter and for that purpose I've started another thread here:

Traffic Issues in Marple - what can be done about them? (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=8208.0)

As far as improving the traffic around Rose Hill School, there is a scheme proposed that was out for consultation recently and if implemented and policed this should at least make a difference on Elmfield Drive. I hope so anyway. That is not dissimilar to what is described in the Guardian article. You can read more about that here: http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=8122.msg48356#msg48356 (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=8122.msg48356#msg48356)
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: amazon on March 08, 2019, 09:54:15 AM
I know you don't mean it @amazon but your post comes across as blunt and rude. Everyone, please remain polite and friendly.

Claire's reference to the train station is about encouraging people to walk to it instead of drive. Whether you agree with that or not it should be easy enough to understand.
   
Improving Marple's traffic situation is a huge challenge. This is going to be an ongoing problem for all councillors whatever banner they work under. Personally I don't think that there are going to be any quick fixes that will make very much difference but perhaps those who think they know best could make some polite suggestions as to what they would do and maybe shape our prospective new councillor's policy, should she be elected. It would also be interesting to hear other candidates views on this matter and for that purpose I've started another thread here:

Traffic Issues in Marple - what can be done about them? (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=8208.0)

As far as improving the traffic around Rose Hill School, there is a scheme proposed that was out for consultation recently and if implemented and policed this should at least make a difference on Elmfield Drive. I hope so anyway. That is not dissimilar to what is described in the Guardian article. You can read more about that here: http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=8122.msg48356#msg48356 (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=8122.msg48356#msg48356)
Iwiil apoligise for my Abrasive comments .
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: wheels on March 08, 2019, 11:05:25 AM
I didn't think they were in any way abrasive Amazon. You seem to have been needlessly pulled up again.
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: amazon on March 08, 2019, 04:43:57 PM
I didn't think they were in any way abrasive Amazon. You seem to have been needlessly pulled up again.
Thank you again
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: red666bear on March 13, 2019, 10:29:44 PM
I walk my lad home from St Marys school back up Brabyns brow and onto Station Road. See very few parents doing this from St Mary’s or Ludworth. Time to get fit Marple and stop ferrying kids about on short journeys.
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: jimblob on March 28, 2019, 08:53:59 AM
I walk my lad home from St Marys school back up Brabyns brow and onto Station Road. See very few parents doing this from St Mary’s or Ludworth. Time to get fit Marple and stop ferrying kids about on short journeys.
Maybe some of them are at work?
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: andrewbowden on March 28, 2019, 09:04:22 AM
I walk my lad home from St Marys school back up Brabyns brow and onto Station Road. See very few parents doing this from St Mary’s or Ludworth. Time to get fit Marple and stop ferrying kids about on short journeys.

Perhaps related to the fact that there aren't that many houses actually in Ludworth's catchment area that way?
https://assets.ctfassets.net/ii3xdrqc6nfw/3ILPK16zGoymcIuKMQWmAw/4cbedd47e8eba41c3cbbdcebc89ffe6f/marple_hall_school_map_aug12.pdf
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: tigerman on March 28, 2019, 04:36:37 PM
If that is the map for admission to Marple Hall School then it needs updating.  There are children in Compstall who haven't got into Marple Hall this year.
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: andrewbowden on March 28, 2019, 04:40:23 PM
If that is the map for admission to Marple Hall School then it needs updating.  There are children in Compstall who haven't got into Marple Hall this year.

Unfortunately being in the catchment area doesn't mean you'll get in..
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: Claire Vibert on April 02, 2019, 06:39:16 PM
Just an update to let you know that I held a successful street stall in Marple on Saturday. The aim was to gather the views of the local community on the continued closure of the pool, and what they'd like to see in the future. Over 130 people got involved and many commented that they were pleased to be able to show what the pool means to them. I've created a word cloud which gives a flavour of the comments - I'll attach the image here. I know work is ongoing on this issue and felt it was important to engage with the community, so thanks to everyone who contributed.

Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: jimblob on April 02, 2019, 08:22:11 PM
One could look at this statistic and using a theoretical figure of £5m to build a new pool, put the cost at roughly £38,000 per potential swimmer! Can we justify such a cost when there are other pools within a relatively small radius and when local government is under such tight financial constraints? Where will the money come from?
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: amazon on April 02, 2019, 08:45:40 PM
One could look at this statistic and using a theoretical figure of £5m to build a new pool, put the cost at roughly £38,000 per potential swimmer! Can we justify such a cost when there are other pools within a relatively small radius and when local government is under such tight financial constraints? Where will the money come from?
YES well justified .
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: jimblob on April 02, 2019, 09:17:39 PM
YES well justified .
Please elaborate Amazon.
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: amazon on April 02, 2019, 09:28:47 PM
Please elaborate Amazon.


Having a new swiming baths most of the money will come from sport england .other grants available allso .
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: jimblob on April 02, 2019, 09:41:43 PM
It would be very interesting to see the actual numbers involved and to build a justifiable business case. Sport England primarily lottery funded although about 1/6th funded from the Exchequer, so in reality all still public money if you regard the national lottery as a stealth tax on the financially vulnerable rather than as an altruistic and wholly voluntary funding mechanism.
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: jimblob on April 02, 2019, 09:54:32 PM
Having a new swiming baths most of the money will come from sport england .other grants available allso .
Reading up on a couple of case studies from Sport England. I'm.not sure they work at quite the level to pay for "most" of an entire swimming pool. I very much suspect we'd be several million short of the price tag
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: andrewbowden on April 02, 2019, 10:17:37 PM
One could look at this statistic and using a theoretical figure of £5m to build a new pool, put the cost at roughly £38,000 per potential swimmer! Can we justify such a cost when there are other pools within a relatively small radius and when local government is under such tight financial constraints? Where will the money come from?

£38,000 would be the figure if only the 130 people who spoke to Claire used it. Many people did not talk to Claire.  I didn't.  My son didn't.  My daughter didn't.  My partner didn't.  We are all pool users.  That's four extra people without even trying.

I put it to you that your cost per user is a inaccurate and not based on facts.
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: jimblob on April 02, 2019, 10:28:47 PM
£38,000 would be the figure if only the 130 people who spoke to Claire used it. Many people did not talk to Claire.  I didn't.  My son didn't.  My daughter didn't.  My partner didn't.  We are all pool users.  That's four extra people without even trying.

I put it to you that your cost per user is a inaccurate and not based on facts.
A clear case for gathering some more exacting statistics so as to justify any costs to the taxpayer by building a compelling and affordable business case. I'm always happy to be wrong in the face of accurate statistics
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: andrewbowden on April 02, 2019, 10:33:32 PM
A clear case for gathering some more exacting statistics so as to justify any costs to the taxpayer by building a compelling and affordable business case. I'm always happy to be wrong in the face of accurate statistics

I'm sure Life Leisure have all the data you - and the council - need.
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: jimblob on April 02, 2019, 10:43:05 PM
I'm sure Life Leisure have all the data you - and the council - need.
Sadly, history tells us the council "need" little justification to do or not do as they please regardless of information available to them. Might be something to pursue myself though as per your suggestion. A little "exercise" of my own one might say :)
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: PhilB on April 03, 2019, 10:10:46 AM
This was 2015 at Life Leisure venues in Stockport. To suggest Marple doesn't need such a facility ( because of cost ) is just ridiculous.
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: jimblob on April 03, 2019, 10:54:49 AM
This was 2015 at Life Leisure venues in Stockport. To suggest Marple doesn't need such a facility ( because of cost ) is just ridiculous.
One could argue that spending circa £5m on another pool is ridiculous. I'm merely questioning whether such a cost is justifiable in the current financial climate and in Marple when there are already facilities close by that are bigger and very well equipped. Life leisure has facilities in Stockport at Avondale, Bramhall, Brinnington Park, Cheadle, Dialstone, Grand Central, Hazel Grove, Houldsworth Village... It would be very interesting to see the numbers specific to Marple? Spending £5m on transport infrastructure rather than a pool in Marple so that Life Leisure members can more easily get to some of these other facilities might be a far better use of funds and would at the same time ameliorate Marple's other hot topic of conversation, traffic!
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: andrewbowden on April 03, 2019, 11:28:51 AM
One could argue that spending circa £5m on another pool is ridiculous. I'm merely questioning whether such a cost is justifiable in the current financial climate and in Marple when there are already facilities close by that are bigger and very well equipped. Life leisure has facilities in Stockport at Avondale, Bramhall, Brinnington Park, Cheadle, Dialstone, Grand Central, Hazel Grove, Houldsworth Village... It would be very interesting to see the numbers specific to Marple? Spending £5m on transport infrastructure rather than a pool in Marple so that Life Leisure members can more easily get to some of these other facilities might be a far better use of funds and would at the same time ameliorate Marple's other hot topic of conversation, traffic!

You assume other pools can simply absorb the traffic. 

Romiley pool now has capacity problems because of the extra patronage caused by Marple's closure.  Whilst some will have gone elsewhere, most children doing swimming lessons moved from Marple to Romiley.  Romiley pool has had to reduce its public swimming hours by 10.5 hours a week because of the Marple closure.  That's eight to accommodate the extra swimming lessons, and 2.5 to accommodate swimming clubs.  School swimming that once took place at Marple has had to move.  This impacts the pool capacity at the pools the schools have had to move to.  People are struggling to get parking spaces, especially when lessons are on.

It's easy to say everyone should go to Avondale (and I do go to Avondale once a week) but it's a 25 minute drive and hardly convenient.  Cheadle pool is 30 minutes away.  Grand Central 20.  That's not convenient. 
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: jimblob on April 03, 2019, 12:02:41 PM
It's easy to say everyone should go to Avondale (and I do go to Avondale once a week) but it's a 25 minute drive and hardly convenient.  Cheadle pool is 30 minutes away.  Grand Central 20.  That's not convenient.
Hence my comment about...
Spending £5m on transport infrastructure rather than a pool in Marple so that Life Leisure members can more easily get to some of these other facilities might be a far better use of funds and would at the same time ameliorate Marple's other hot topic of conversation, traffic!
Some might consider it not convenient to spend huge sums of taxpayer's money on a pool in our own back garden when there are very well equipped facilities nearby when we can't even get to work to pay those taxes because our transport infrastructure is so bad
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: andrewbowden on April 03, 2019, 01:11:01 PM
Hence my comment about...
Spending £5m on transport infrastructure rather than a pool in Marple so that Life Leisure members can more easily get to some of these other facilities might be a far better use of funds and would at the same time ameliorate Marple's other hot topic of conversation, traffic!
Some might consider it not convenient to spend huge sums of taxpayer's money on a pool in our own back garden when there are very well equipped facilities nearby when we can't even get to work to pay those taxes because our transport infrastructure is so bad

Your suggestion only works if you can make further away pools more attractive for people in Marple to use.  And I don't understand how spending £5m on transport is going to make it easier for anyone to get to Avondale or Cheadle.  They're still miles away.  They will still take 25-30 minutes for people to get to.

Meanwhile Romiley is still on our doorstep.  And it's still struggling with capacity.  You could spend as much money as you want improving transport links to Romiley pool and it would still be struggling with capacity.

Sometimes transport links are not the problem.
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: jimblob on April 03, 2019, 03:43:06 PM
Sometimes transport links are not the problem.
Sometimes, locals insisting on their own swimming pool isn't the only problem and the same money spent elsewhere could be used to ameliorate many more problems. I think it's called compromise.
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: andrewbowden on April 03, 2019, 03:49:51 PM
Sometimes, locals insisting on their own swimming pool isn't the only problem and the same money spent elsewhere could be used to ameliorate many more problems. I think it's called compromise.

Tell you what, let's cut everything from the council budget that's not transport, and rebrand the council as Transport for Stockport.  After all, it would get rid of so many more problems.  Good compromise.

Why aren't you standing?  I'd vote for you.

VOTE JIMBLOB!
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: Dave on April 03, 2019, 04:29:42 PM
This is a strange thread.   It's a bit perverse for someone who constantly complains (with some justification) about traffic congestion to argue that we should put even more people on to the roads by not replacing our swimming pool!

And just in case anyone thinks £5 million will produce any significant improvement in local transport, have a look at this:  https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200405/cmselect/cmpubacc/440/44007.htm.  Construction costs of light rail /tram systems: about £15 million per mile. 

A town with a population of 23,000 should have its own swimming pool. It's a no brainer! 
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: jimblob on April 03, 2019, 04:33:53 PM
Bet you wouldn't  ;)...
Not sure I could stand, I'd end up trying to kill someone, and my "boil the ocean" approach to solve world hunger et-al would probably solve nothing.

Transport, however is the lifeblood of so many other things, if it works, so many other things do to! On a national level, first the canals, then the railways transformed our lives as well as industry, as did the car; on an international level so did the Jet engine. We've come now to depend on our mobility for so many aspects of our lives, it slowly is now being taken away from us and is crippling us. I can only liken it to a hardening of the arteries. As a human, if the blood stops everything else stops, so the last thing you do is fur up those arteries any farther, you open them up as much as you possibly can. It's not ideal but it's better than a heart attack!

We seem incredibly good at wasting money on Utopian ideals and missing the elephant in the room, (other than when we see said elephant, we decide to spend money on having it painted white, probably by an outsourced company that over-charges us). A few well made strategic decisions at a high enough level could make a real difference, and despite my right-of-centre political stance, I kinda like what Andy Burnham is trying to do across Manchester (although I wholly disagree with the numbers of new homes allegedly required to be built as part of the GMSF). Sadly all we seem to do is bicker over the small stuff, blame national government for spending cuts or Brexit (it's all our taxes wherever it comes from!) and end up achieving nothing. It saddens me that progress is depicted as a picture of a local Councillor shared on social media, pointing at a pothole he's managed to get filled in or smiling aside a new speed hump that has finally been installed that a handful of local residents have campaigned for but in reality detrimentally affects thousands of commuting motorists (and incidentally causes more air pollution by impeding the motorist).
Surely the human race has the capacity to transcend this minutiae or are we merely headed for the same fate as the Romans and the Egyptians before us?

Maybe I should stand ? 
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: PhilB on April 03, 2019, 05:07:08 PM
What about geronticide ?  That would help free up the roads and hospital beds  :o :o :o ;D
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: jimblob on April 03, 2019, 05:44:35 PM
What about geronticide ?  That would help free up the roads and hospital beds  :o :o :o ;D
Even scrooge failed in that quest in reducing the surplus population.. it's also highly illegal and certainly not a vote winner, certainly not in Marple anyway
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: amazon on April 03, 2019, 06:44:52 PM
Reading up on a couple of case studies from Sport England. I'm.not sure they work at quite the level to pay for "most" of an entire swimming pool. I very much suspect we'd be several million short of the price tag
Your all ways looking for a problem .lets all sit at home an be negative .ive told you there are very good grants available .
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: jimblob on April 03, 2019, 07:19:03 PM
Your all ways looking for a problem .lets all sit at home an be negative .ive told you there are very good grants available .
I call it realism!  Anyway, what makes you think I'm sat at home?
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: amazon on April 03, 2019, 07:24:41 PM
I call it realism!  Anyway, what makes you think I'm sat at home?
were did i say you were sat at home .
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: jimblob on April 03, 2019, 08:38:30 PM
Your all ways looking for a problem .lets all sit at home an be negative .ive told you there are very good grants available .
Albeit with a few missing apostrophes and a missing "d"  ;D
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: Claire Vibert on April 08, 2019, 09:46:38 PM
Just an update to let you know that I held a successful street stall in Marple on Saturday. The aim was to gather the views of the local community on the continued closure of the pool, and what they'd like to see in the future. Over 130 people got involved and many commented that they were pleased to be able to show what the pool means to them. I've created a word cloud which gives a flavour of the comments - I'll attach the image here. I know work is ongoing on this issue and felt it was important to engage with the community, so thanks to everyone who contributed.

Thank you again to everyone who contributed to the street stall that I held. I shared all the comments with Councillor Sheila Bailey, cabinet member for Communities and Housing on Stockport Council. Councillor Bailey was pleased to receive the views of Marple's residents and provided the following statement:

"Clearly from the comments made by local residents, Marple pool was well used and well loved by local people. It is very sad that the recent problems with the pool fabric and filtration system have meant that the pool had to be closed to the public. Further investigations have shown that there are other problems with the building and that almost £3m would be needed over the next couple of years to make it fit for use, but even that would not guarantee its long term future. After discussions with the local Councillors it was decided that rather than spend money on a short term solution, the money would be better used to invest in a new, long-term leisure provision that would provide modern facilities for Marple residents.
Unfortunately, this does mean that there will be a gap between the old pool closing and a new pool opening, but the long term benefits will be there for many years to come. Discussions are currently ongoing and once a more detailed scheme has been developed and funding options finalised, engagement will take place with users and local residents".

I'm pleased that I've been able to ensure that the council take the community's views into account, and if elected I will continue to engage the community in this way.

Claire
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: Claire Vibert on April 15, 2019, 07:47:52 PM
I just wanted to check back in here to share my plan for a fairer, greener, safer Marple North. I hope I've shown my commitment to our community through my actions, such as running the Red Box Project, campaigning for fairer and better funding for our schools, and actively engaging the community about the future of our pool. There's no need for 'tactical' voting - if you share my values and agree with my vision for our area, vote for me on 2 May - or before if you have a postal vote!
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: Steve Gribbon on April 15, 2019, 08:16:58 PM
Hi Claire, hope you are well.

I’ve posted a question about the Marple Area Committee meetings to candidates, if you could have a look and post a reply it would be appreciated.

Kind regards

Steve
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: Carolyn Leather on April 15, 2019, 09:53:30 PM
Claire, thank you for all you do for the community. I know there is lots of common ground between us and you will make a great councillor if elected. 

There really is no need, as you say, for tactical voting in Marple North, and I'm hoping people are beginning to see through this myth that is perpetuated by the party it benefits. 
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: Claire Vibert on April 24, 2019, 12:56:42 PM
Hi everyone -

I just wanted to drop in and share the attached - it's a summary of my activity in the community over the last year. My campaign has been focused on my values and how I have used them to develop the vision that I shared previously. My activities aim to make a real difference and to counteract the impact of austerity which affects us all.

As mentioned in another thread, there was a meeting last night to discuss the new Walk Ride Marple plans. I was pleased to attend and the aims of the group very much reflect my own aims for a safer, greener Marple North. On the subject of attendance at meetings - obviously we all have different circumstances, and I've no doubt that the other candidates had valid reasons for not attending last night's meeting, just as I was not able to be at the Area Committee. I don't think it's worth trying to make a political point about it. I'm sure that people can see that I've been very active during my campaign, and have tried to engage with the community and support those who need it.

Last night's meeting was great - lots of energy and ideas. I know that this is typical of Marple, and that by bringing the community together and working collaboratively we can improve it even further.

Best wishes

Claire
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: Claire Vibert on April 27, 2019, 07:55:36 PM
Hello again. I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who stopped by to see us this morning in Marple. It’s fair to say the weather wasn’t quite how I’d hoped, but we braved the conditions nonetheless!

Claire
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: wheels on April 29, 2019, 03:26:29 PM
@Claire Vibert before I vote in Marple North I want to ask you a question which is central to how I vote although I accept others might hold different view.

I ask the question to you as your party seems to have the most unclear of all the parties stand on Brexit. So I'd like to respectfully ask.

1. How did you vote in the Referendum?
2. Do you support the People's Vote?
3. Do you support revoking article 50?
4. How would you vote in a further referendum?

Many thanks.
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: amazon on April 29, 2019, 08:08:42 PM
@Claire Vibert before I vote in Marple North I want to ask you a question which is central to how I vote although I accept others might hold different view.

I ask the question to you as your party seems to have the most unclear of all the parties stand on Brexit. So I'd like to respectfully ask.

1. How did you vote in the Referendum?
2. Do you support the People's Vote?
3. Do you support revoking article 50?
4. How would you vote in a further referendum?

Many thanks.
Cant see what this has to do with local elections .
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: wheels on April 29, 2019, 08:51:24 PM
Amazon, if I feel it's an  issue that will influence how I vote, and I do, then it's relevant if only to me and I gave a right to ask the question and to expect a reply.

The answer demonstrates an attitude which I think would be important in making more local decision.


Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: Claire Vibert on April 29, 2019, 09:49:49 PM
Hello. Regarding the EU, I have always been pro-Remain and believe that although the EU isn’t perfect, we have much to lose by leaving and nothing to gain. The other questions are very specific and I’d be very happy to answer them by email, but I’d rather avoid turning this into a discussion on Brexit. Anyone is free to contact me on marplelabour@gmail.com

What’s clear to me is that Brexit has left our country more divided than ever, and the Conservative party are entirely to blame for the mess. I’ve spoken to hundreds of people during this campaign and whether they are in favour of Leave or Remain, the one consistent feeling is of frustration and disbelief that it has been handled so badly. People feel badly let down and trust in politics is surely at an all time low.

I share those frustrations and one of the reasons I have put myself forward this time is because there are so many issues that need action, at a local level, and we can still make a difference even if national politics seems to be stuck in inaction. I know that our community here in Marple is fantastic but there are still issues that affect us, and that’s why I’ve put together a plan to tackle those issues and make our area fairer, greener and safer. If elected on Thursday, I'm committed to working in collaboration with residents, community groups, schools and others to improve Marple North.

Claire
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: wheels on April 30, 2019, 06:26:31 PM
Thanks for the helpful reply Claire but after today's decision by the Labour NEC I and I suspect thousands of people could not support you or other local candidates.
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: Phil on April 30, 2019, 08:07:49 PM
Hi Wheels, just curious. Have you ever voted Labour, either at a local or national level? In fact, in the last 10 years, have you ever spoken favourably about any party other than the one you habitually support?

By the way it doesn't bother me if you haven't, that's the joy of democracy. Only you keep teasing that maybe you're undecided on how to vote on Thursday. When we all know full well that you know exactly which box is getting your X ;)

RH
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: wheels on April 30, 2019, 09:49:41 PM
Phil,

Well I am much more open to being drawn in a different direction. Perhaps it's something that happens as you get older or perhaps I feel less obligation since 2016.

However on this occasion it's too late as I voted ages ago by post so I'll stop the mild teasing.

BTW I don't expect my one vote whichever way it went is going to make a scrap of difference in Marple North other than to the size of the majority for  ....

Old habits are hard to break.
Title: Re: Claire Vibert: Labour Candidate for Marple North 2019
Post by: Claire Vibert on May 01, 2019, 06:14:04 PM
Hello again.

First of all thank you to the admin on the site for allowing us to have these discussions, and to everyone who has asked questions or made comments. On the eve of the election I thought I would check back in to remind everyone of my plan to make Marple North fairer, greener and safer; and of the things I have been doing in our community over the past year.

As ever, you can ask questions on here or email me on marplelabour@gmail.com.

Best wishes

Claire