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Title: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: admin on December 12, 2017, 04:21:03 PM
This section of the forum, originally set-up for the 2016 elections, has been re-badged in preparation for the Councillor Elections in May 2018.

So who are the candidates for the two places  - one in Marple North and one in Marple South & High Lane - that are up for grabs next May?

We have one candidate for Marple North who has just declared himself on the forum, and that's LibDem @Steve Gribbon .

If you know any of the other candidates for Marple North or Marple South & High Lane please let us know so that their details can be promoted too.

If you're a candidate, then why not register on the forum and tell us all about yourself too.

Current councillors @TomDowseMarpleSouth @Malcolm Allan @CllrKennyBlair and@CllrGeoffAbell - anything you can tell us, or point your colleagues here to introduce themselves please.

I don't know if @JohnBates is standing again - but feel free to tell us what you know John!
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: admin on December 13, 2017, 05:31:21 AM
LibDem Candidate for Marple North Steve Gribbon has now posted a more detailed introduction about himself in this thread:

Steve Gribbon: Candidate for Marple North Ward (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=7640.0)

Yvonne Collier has been in touch to say that she is standing as the Conservative candidate for Marple South & High Lane.

Yvonne had already registered as a user @yvonnecollier and will hopefully post her own introduction in due course.

All candidates will be treated the same by the forum administration and given the same opportunity and technical support (if needed) to represent themselves on here.

Each candidate will be given a separate thread when they introduce themselves and can post in any other threads they wish, or start new ones.

Obviously regular users are likely to post based on their political beliefs but whatever those are please keep your comments polite and do your best to be positive rather than negative. Anything considered abusive will be removed by the administrators.
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: admin on December 13, 2017, 07:48:00 AM
Just for information, here are the results of Marple North and Marple South Wards in 2016:

Marple North for full details visit: http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/mgElectionAreaResults.aspx?XXR=0&ID=643&RPID=13019997 (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/mgElectionAreaResults.aspx?XXR=0&ID=643&RPID=13019997)

(https://www.marple-uk.com/pics/marple-north-results-2016.jpg)

Marple South and High Lane for full details visit: http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/mgElectionAreaResults.aspx?XXR=0&ID=644&RPID=13020003 (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/mgElectionAreaResults.aspx?XXR=0&ID=644&RPID=13020003)

(https://www.marple-uk.com/pics/marple-south-results-2016.jpg)

I've heard that Sheila Townsend is to stand again for Labour in Marple South and High Lane but this is unconfirmed at present.
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: simonesaffron on December 13, 2017, 10:27:11 PM
As far as Marple is concerned and long as we are in the grip of party politics, It doesn't really matter who wins the council seat. Some fireman we've never heard of, or a woman called Yvonne.

Unless an independent candidate presents between now and next May, I for one, won't be voting. Thankfully, I spend a lot of time abroad these days but whenever I return to Marple, I see the same old thing: More traffic, more ill- thought-out houses, more air pollution, more blocked drains, more dog fouling, more strangers moving in, more good people moving out. What exactly do local councillors do these days?

I was walking down Station Road last week and I saw a local councillor ( I won't name him)physically sweeping leaves up. Is that the most productive use of a local councillor's time?       
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: Steve Gribbon on December 13, 2017, 11:04:42 PM
Good evening Simone (or is it Simon E?, forgive me for any incorrect name attempt)

I'm the fireman you've not heard of before which is fair comment, and the reason why I have introduced myself on this site. I see you have a broad range of criticisms for our area and for local politics. As I said on my introductory page I won't get involved in negative comments for reasons I have stated, but I am more than happy to speak to you should you wish, or can meet you to discuss your concerns.

We must agree to disagree in that I feel Marple is a fantastic place to live, perhaps we can be in communication to see where things can improve? The offer is genuinely there for you, I am all for people speaking with passion.

Kind regards and best wishes over Christmas

Steve Gribbon.
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: Condate on December 14, 2017, 08:21:39 AM
I certainly agree that we need candidates who are not involved in party politics. That's not to say that a party candidate can't make a good councillor, but it would be better for local government if councillors were not also party politicians.
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: Howard on December 14, 2017, 08:38:07 AM
Unless an independent candidate presents between now and next May, I for one, won't be voting. Thankfully, I spend a lot of time abroad these days but whenever I return to Marple, I see the same old thing: More traffic, more ill- thought-out houses, more air pollution, more blocked drains, more dog fouling, more strangers moving in, more good people moving out. What exactly do local councillors do these days?   

My emphasis of Simone's comment in bold. What an utterly ridiculous thing to say. Should these "strangers" be assessed by the local NIMBY committee before granting them a Marple visa? What criteria are you using for judging the qualities of the "good" people? Can I see the list, please? I want to make sure I can continue living here.
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: simonesaffron on December 14, 2017, 09:43:00 AM
I watched PM'sQT on television yesterday. A lot of it was ostensibly about homelessness and was started off by Jeremy asking Theresa a question about 'homeless people.' Very quickly it degenerated into a slanging match between the two of them. Both of them in turn repeatedly jumped to his/her feet and asserted that if you were a homeless person you were better off with Conservatives than you were with Labour. I don't think that the homeless person really felt the difference. They were still homeless. Anyway, they quickly became party political fodder and were rapidly lost in the main subject, which was, trading  various cross-party insults.

This now translates to local politics, all over the country, where councils are paralysed because of these cross-party politics. Once you become a local Councillor, any independent thought you had is absorbed into the party machine. Stockport is no different and neither is Marple.

 If you look through the webcast of SMBC council meetings (not recommended as entertainment) you will be unable to find one single motion, whereupon even one solitary councillor, upon just one isolated occasion, has voted against his/her party. As well as this, candidates need the various party machines behind them in order to win elections.

In Marple If you are going to vote for the same-ole Lib-dem/Conservative, then that's what you are going to get, same-ole stuff. 

I must add here, the party itself doesn't matter. Conservative, Labour, Libdem; It's all the same.
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: admin on December 14, 2017, 10:17:01 AM
Unless an independent candidate presents between now and next May, I for one, won't be voting.

I think it's a shame that you make your comments anonymously "Simone". They would sit much better with me personally if you made it clear who you are.

Last time out Kevin Dowling was an independant with a track record as a LibDem councillor but we can see how well that went without the party support in the results below. Is Kevin standing again? I'm sure you will be able to tell us.

I was walking down Station Road last week and I saw a local councillor ( I won't name him)physically sweeping leaves up. Is that the most productive use of a local councillor's time?       

I'm pretty sure I know which councillor you are critising as he regularly joins Friends of Memorial Park Task Days, and the task days of many other volunteer groups in his Ward. He encourages and supports these groups in many other ways too and this is extremely benefical to Marple. I see this as a huge positive, not a negative at all - he's not just out on his own sweeping leaves he's engaging with volunteers in the community, which is what I expect a councillor to do.

I can't speak about politics at the Town Hall but I watch closely what goes on in Marple.

For a very long time Marple Area Committee was made up of concillors from a single party, which made them very strong together, as they always pulled in the same direction and rarely disagreed publicly. At the time I thought this was a good thing. However, I believe a good councillor should be able to set party politics aside when necessary and work well with others of different colours. Afterall, what any local councillor should want is simply the best for the area and the residents that they represent. I'm a regular attendee at Marple Area Committee - I dislike it very much when it's "LimDems this", "Conservatives that" but I've seen the current group of councillors move from an uneasy alliance to begin working much better together and usually showing each other respect. I now think that the balance that we've currently got could actually be better than being dominated by one party.

My vote will go to whoever I think is going to do their best for Marple, regardless of which party they represent, or indeed if they are Independent.


Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: simonesaffron on December 14, 2017, 11:32:27 AM
I think that you might be adding your old/new email addresses to your /forum personnas and getting your identities a bit mixed up there admin, but it doesn't matter. With respect, I don't make postings because they 'sit much better' with individuals. 

Although I am a little surprised and disappointed about the suggestion regarding anonymity coming from the moderator.

Anyway, none of it matters to the points that I am making.

As far as other candidates are concerned, I am sure I WON'T be able to tell you who is standing. Your observations about the Area Committee both past are most relevant and again are only supportive (in a different way) of the party political scene wherein which we suffer. Which really is the point that I make.     
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: simonesaffron on December 14, 2017, 11:56:12 AM
Sorry,

One point I forgot to make before I sign off for this year.

You mention the Independent Candidate last year and you dismiss the candidacy by saying ...' but we can see how well that went without the party support in the results below.'

Again your comment is symptomatic of the cross-party politics, we find ourselves in, in Marple. The fact that he didn't win is dismissed by you. However Many would say that he gave at least 315 members of the local electorate the opportunity to vote for an independent candidate, which they did.   
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: Condate on December 14, 2017, 12:01:39 PM
Part of the problem (as I've mentioned before) is that far too many voters vote purely for a party label, regardless of the quality or otherwise of the candidate and regardless of whether their reasons for supporting a party are actually relevant to the local situation. This sometimes means good candidates lose for reasons quite unconnected with how they have served, or would serve. Of course, good councillors can and do get elected too, but often for the wrong reason; i.e. because of their party label rather than their qualities and ability to serve the area well.

Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: Steve Gribbon on December 14, 2017, 12:46:41 PM
Hello Condate. I appreciate your comments on how people can vote and who can get in, but from a personal perspective I want to be a Councillor as quite simply I want to help the area to the best of my ability, and regardless of which party I am with I have the common sense to make decisions based on what I believe to be correct and what will benefit our community the most. Yes I am with the Lib Dems but I also believe they have done sound work in the past and at present, but this does not stop me from forming my own opinions. I am happy discuss further should you wish.

SimoneSaffron- I am sending a message to your inbox with an invitation to meet in the New Year, I hope you accept. 

Kind regards

Steve Gribbon
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: andrewbowden on December 14, 2017, 01:05:00 PM
My emphasis of Simone's comment in bold. What an utterly ridiculous thing to say. Should these "strangers" be assessed by the local NIMBY committee before granting them a Marple visa? What criteria are you using for judging the qualities of the "good" people? Can I see the list, please? I want to make sure I can continue living here.

As I only moved into the area in the summer of 2016, I'm now also quite concerned about my status in this town.
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: admin on December 14, 2017, 01:07:07 PM
So, back to the main topic of who is standing as councillor in 2018.

Last night Cllr Sue Ingham confirmed it was OK to tell people that she is not standing for election again next year in her current role of Councillor for Marple South and High Lane. Sue has been representing the Ward for the last 12 years and during that time I've been pleased to work closely with her on a number of projects and initiatives. In particular, the campaign to get a camera installed in Memorial Park to combat ASB in and around the Bowling Green area. Sue has always been supportive of Friends of the Park and very easy to talk to and helpful about local matters. I wish Sue all the best in her retirement from the role and hope she enjoys all the extra spare time!

Standing in Sue's place as LibDem candidate for Marple South and High Lane is Colin MacAlister, who was within 23 votes of winner Tom Dowse in 2016.

Also not standing again is Cllr Geoff Abell. Geoff has stood for a single term of 4 years and will step down from his role as Councillor for Marple North in May. Steve Gribbon, who has already introduced himself on the forum, will stand in his place. Geoff has been very helpful to Friends of the Park during his term and has also been a regular contributor to the forum, which of course is a big positive from my perspective too.
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: Dave on December 14, 2017, 04:50:57 PM
Good evening Simone (or is it Simon E?, forgive me for any incorrect name attempt)

I'm the fireman you've not heard of before which is fair comment, and the reason why I have introduced myself on this site. I see you have a broad range of criticisms for our area and for local politics. As I said on my introductory page I won't get involved in negative comments for reasons I have stated, but I am more than happy to speak to you should you wish, or can meet you to discuss your concerns.

We must agree to disagree in that I feel Marple is a fantastic place to live, perhaps we can be in communication to see where things can improve? The offer is genuinely there for you, I am all for people speaking with passion.

Kind regards and best wishes over Christmas

Steve Gribbon.

Steve, welcome to the forum, and congratulations on being selected as the LibDem candidate for Marple North.   

And further congratulations on your patient and diplomatic response to the un-called for reference to
Some fireman we've never heard of, or a woman called Yvonne.

That is uncharacteristic of Simone, who is normally so polite and sensible, that I wonder whether her account has been hacked?

No matter - it's good to see candidates making good use of the forum, and especially when it's done in such a positive and friendly way. 
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: Steve Gribbon on December 14, 2017, 06:25:39 PM
Dave

Thanks very much for your comments, they are very much appreciated. No problem at all with the previous message, and I do hope my reply helped Simone get to know me and my thinking a little better!

All the best for Christmas

Steve.
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: admin on December 17, 2017, 09:57:33 AM
Labour Candidate for Marple North Chris Gleeson has recently posted an introduction about himself in this thread:

Chris Gleeson: Labour Candidate for Marple North (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=7649)
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: CllrGeoffAbell on December 19, 2017, 12:05:43 PM
With a complete slate of new candidates, the one thing we do know is that we will get two new councillors in the Marples.

At the local level, party influence is much less, I would hazard, so the ideas, drive and sheer hard work come into it a lot more.  It was mentioned on this thread that a councillor was picking up leaves.  Good!  As I walk down a street, I see things differently as a councillor - blocked drains, broken lights, bad line-of-sight at T-junctions, bad parking, etc.

By the nature of the job, MPs spend a lot of time at Westminster.

Councillors do not spend a lot of time at the Town Hall.  It's more improving residents’ life, the place of Marple and its surrounding villages, and only then the strategy to implement that.

And @admin noted more cross-party talking at Area Committee.  Perhaps these pages may help in making up voters’ minds up as to who is most imaginative, articulate and listens.  And obviously who picks up the most leaves.

Finally, thank you Marple for electing me in the first place.  The job is like no other.  It can open doors and there is a real buzz about helping others.  My part in keeping the 394 bus was part of that.  What we need now (amongst other things) is to revitalise the area around Stockport Road (one of the Neighbourhood Plan's goals), get more cycle lanes off main roads, a new community hub on Marple Station and maybe even a rail link to Stockport.  (As you can see, I do like my transport!)
And of course prevent the inappropriate over-development of High Lane.
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: CllrGeoffAbell on December 19, 2017, 12:10:01 PM
And in case you missed this, Marple Area Cmte has its own web pages too - the first Stockport ward council to do so.  Planning decision, road works and more at:

http://www.stockport.gov.uk/mac (http://www.stockport.gov.uk/mac)
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: chriswallis labour on December 20, 2017, 09:08:45 AM
Geoff - re MAC website, that link doesn't wrok, for some reason.
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: admin on December 20, 2017, 09:23:20 AM
Geoff - re MAC website, that link doesn't wrok, for some reason.

Fixed - the www was missing, it doesn't seem to work without that. http://www.stockport.gov.uk/mac (http://www.stockport.gov.uk/mac)
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: admin on December 22, 2017, 07:26:29 PM
Liberal Democrat Candidate for Marple South and High Lane Colin Macalister has recently posted an introduction about himself in this thread:

Colin Macalister: LibDem candidate for Marple South and High Lane (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=7656.0)

Welcome to the Marple Website Forum Colin, we look forward to your contributions.
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: Steve Gribbon on December 28, 2017, 02:36:13 PM
I was walking down Station Road last week and I saw a local councillor ( I won't name him)physically sweeping leaves up. Is that the most productive use of a local councillor's time?       

Hello again Simone

I'm hoping I can clarify the issue on the leaves sweeping, as I believe it is worth a mention. I spoke to the Councillor in question and it was done to uncover the double yellow lines which the day before had been parked on (due to the leaves covering the lines) and created a hazard. After he swept them no cars were parking there. Personally I do think this is a good use of time as it removed an issue/risk, and is something which I would have no problem in doing myself, be it as a candidate Councillor as I am now or a full Councillor should I be elected.

A shop was unfortunately recently burgled in our area and I have been in today to see how the shopworkers are and to ask if any help could be given. I firmly believe that 'seen to be doing' is more than instigating or supporting a policy from the Town Hall, it can also be the smaller things that can help the area we live in.

I hope this helps with your concern over the time spent carrying out activities. My offer previously to you of meeting still stands, and I hope you decide to do so.

With kind regards

Steve Gribbon 
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: amazon on December 28, 2017, 07:41:20 PM
Hello again Simone

I'm hoping I can clarify the issue on the leaves sweeping, as I believe it is worth a mention. I spoke to the Councillor in question and it was done to uncover the double yellow lines which the day before had been parked on (due to the leaves covering the lines) and created a hazard. After he swept them no cars were parking there. Personally I do think this is a good use of time as it removed an issue/risk, and is something which I would have no problem in doing myself, be it as a candidate Councillor as I am now or a full Councillor should I be elected.

A shop was unfortunately recently burgled in our area and I have been in today to see how the shopworkers are and to ask if any help could be given. I firmly believe that 'seen to be doing' is more than instigating or supporting a policy from the Town Hall, it can also be the smaller things that can help the area we live in.

I hope this helps with your concern over the time spent carrying out activities. My offer previously to you of meeting still stands, and I hope you decide to do so.

With kind regards

Steve Gribbon 

while we are on leaves the cobbled path lower fold park has still not been swept. in places its thick with leaves a slipy ;suposed to be down for sweeping   every year .
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: Razzle24 on December 28, 2017, 08:01:39 PM

I firmly believe that 'seen to be doing' is more than instigating or supporting a policy from the Town Hall, it can also be the smaller things that can help the area we live in.

Does this mean that you will be pushing for more police on the streets of Marple?
Can you please advise what has been done with the income generated from the sale of the land in Marple to developers?(Peacefield, Dale and the Ridge). I haven’t seen any regeneration or investment in Marple. The Marple Plan is a good idea - how will you make this a reality as opposed to a discussion point?
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: Steve Gribbon on December 28, 2017, 08:29:22 PM
Thanks for your messages Amazon and Razzle24.

Amazon-I have sent an email to the appropriate department at the council asking for this to be looked at and actioned accordingly. There is a 10 day turnaround so when I have a reply I will message you.

Razzle24-I am in 100% agreement that we need an increase in Policing in Marple. One criminal act in our area is one too many, I will be pushing as much as possible for an increase, especially in visible Policing for our reassurance and protection. My introduction about myself on this site covers this area (Mark in admin, can you place a link here please?).

Link here (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=7640.msg45529#msg45529) (added by Howard)

As regarding the development land you mentioned, please allow me to find out and I shall speak to you as soon as I have something. I hope this is ok for you.

Kind regards

Steve Gribbon
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: amazon on December 29, 2017, 11:53:56 AM
Thanks for your messages Amazon and Razzle24.

Amazon-I have sent an email to the appropriate department at the council asking for this to be looked at and actioned accordingly. There is a 10 day turnaround so when I have a reply I will message you.

Razzle24-I am in 100% agreement that we need an increase in Policing in Marple. One criminal act in our area is one too many, I will be pushing as much as possible for an increase, especially in visible Policing for our reassurance and protection. My introduction about myself on this site covers this area (Mark in admin, can you place a link here please?).
As regarding the development land you mentioned, please allow me to find out and I shall speak to you as soon as I have something. I hope this is ok for you.

Kind regards

Steve Gribbon
        Thank you now done this morning .all the best for the new year .
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: Steve Gribbon on December 29, 2017, 12:21:29 PM
That's great news, I'm happy to have been able to help.

All the best for New Year to you and your family

Kind regards

Steve
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: Steve Gribbon on December 29, 2017, 01:32:53 PM
Does this mean that you will be pushing for more police on the streets of Marple?

Hello Razzle24

With regards to your Police question, I have just filled in a questionnaire on Policing where we live. I think if as many as us as possible filled it in it would be a good indication of our view of the level of protection/support we receive. Perhaps we could all have a look at it?

https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/PoliceSurveyGM

Kind regards

Steve Gribbon

Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: ChrisGleeson on December 29, 2017, 06:39:46 PM
Hello Razzle24

With regards to your Police question, I have just filled in a questionnaire on Policing where we live. I think if as many as us as possible filled it in it would be a good indication of our view of the level of protection/support we receive. Perhaps we could all have a look at it?

https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/PoliceSurveyGM

Kind regards

Steve Gribbon

Yes I agree that this survey from Andy Burnham's office is useful. It will inform decisions at a Greater Manchester level. In real terms the funding from central government is about to be cut, so an increased level of funding for policing would have to be paid for by an increase in council tax (see survey for details).

Two quotes from Labour's 2017 General Election manifesto:

"On Theresa May’s watch, police numbers have been cut by 20,000. Cuts to the police force endanger communities and endanger police officers too. Labour’s approach to policing crime will be different."

"Labour will recruit 10,000 more police officers to work on community beats, equivalent to at least one more for every neighbourhood in the country."
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: Steve Gribbon on December 29, 2017, 07:46:55 PM
Yes I agree that this survey from Andy Burnham's office is useful. It will inform decisions at a Greater Manchester level. In real terms the funding from central government is about to be cut, so an increased level of funding for policing would have to be paid for by an increase in council tax (see survey for details).

Two quotes from Labour's 2017 General Election manifesto:

"On Theresa May’s watch, police numbers have been cut by 20,000. Cuts to the police force endanger communities and endanger police officers too. Labour’s approach to policing crime will be different."

"Labour will recruit 10,000 more police officers to work on community beats, equivalent to at least one more for every neighbourhood in the country."

Hi Chris, thanks for your input on link I placed on here earlier.

I appreciate that it has come from Andy Burnham, but my interest in posting it was more about making sure the people of our area had the chance to put across their views. This was done so the residents of Marple were kept informed of such a survey, and reflecting on my post it also demonstrates that I am capable of making my own choices of what is good for our area, I would not have held this back because of the political group who initiated it.

The local issues are key to me and I have no intention of that changing. As residents of Marple North I am sure we can agree on this!

Kind regards, and all the best for 2018.

Steve Gribbon
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: CllrGeoffAbell on January 19, 2018, 09:50:54 AM
Geoff - re MAC website, that link doesn't wrok, for some reason.
@chriswallis labour - It's new and I think the name changed slightly -
https://www.stockport.gov.uk/marpleareacommittee (https://www.stockport.gov.uk/marpleareacommittee)

Will we see you at future meetings?
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: Harry on January 31, 2018, 04:51:38 PM

Can you please advise what has been done with the income generated from the sale of the land in Marple to developers?(Peacefield, Dale and the Ridge). I haven’t seen any regeneration or investment in Marple.

I haven't seen any response from this question, but I think I now the answer.

According to a MEN article, at https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/stockport-traffic-bus-station-work-14179574 (https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/stockport-traffic-bus-station-work-14179574), Stockport Council are spending £1bn on improvements to the town centre, Brinnington and the SEMMS relief road. Obviously that would leave little or no finance available for the district centres, such as Marple, and would explain why schools are being denied cash for essentials such as a new boiler.

It may be interesting to hear the views of our candidates on this topic, even though its probably far too late to change anything.
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: Steve Gribbon on January 31, 2018, 05:15:31 PM
I haven't seen any response from this question, but I think I now the answer.

According to a MEN article, at https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/stockport-traffic-bus-station-work-14179574 (https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/stockport-traffic-bus-station-work-14179574), Stockport Council are spending £1bn on improvements to the town centre, Brinnington and the SEMMS relief road. Obviously that would leave little or no finance available for the district centres, such as Marple, and would explain why schools are being denied cash for essentials such as a new boiler.

It may be interesting to hear the views of our candidates on this topic, even though its probably far too late to change anything.

Hello Harry

I have just been in touch with Councillor Geoff Abell over this so please bear with us whilst an answer is obtained, I will message as soon as one is received. In the meantime on the subject of boilers for schools, is there an in issue in Marple where essential work is needed? This is something that needs looking at as a matter of urgency so any information would be most welcome.

Kind regards

Steve Gribbon

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Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: admin on January 31, 2018, 05:18:50 PM
Can you please advise what has been done with the income generated from the sale of the land in Marple to developers?(Peacefield, Dale and the Ridge). I haven’t seen any regeneration or investment in Marple. The Marple Plan is a good idea - how will you make this a reality as opposed to a discussion point?

That's a really good question, I missed it myself over Christmas so thanks for bumping up @Harry

The income generated from the sale of the Hibbert Lane College site (which I assume is what @Razzle24 meant by the Ridge) went to the college itself and they invested in improvements to the Buxton Lane site. The Sports Hall being the most obvious of those. I've no idea of the sums involved though or if they have spent it all.

But the proceeds from selling Peacefield and the Dale I would be very interested to know too.

As regarding the development land you mentioned, please allow me to find out and I shall speak to you as soon as I have something. I hope this is ok for you.

Kind regards

Steve Gribbon

@Steve Gribbon did you make any progress trying to find out?
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: Steve Gribbon on January 31, 2018, 05:30:35 PM
Hi Admin

I'm hoping that an answer regarding this will be available asap, I have emailed people regarding the issue so will push further for an answer. I agree it is a good and valid point.

Kind regards

Steve Gribbon
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: Malcolm Allan on February 05, 2018, 08:20:08 AM
Steve has asked me to look into this further and I've put the question to the Council officers. I think any cash raised from such sales has to be ring-fenced for education spend, but I'm not certain. That assumes the council own the land, which is not the case with every one of our schools. I also think, but am checking, that the proceeds from the Dale school sale went into improving and expanding Rose Hill, which took most of the pupils. Also bear in mind, if land is sold this way, there will be new income generated from Council tax on houses, plus cash raised separately from things like water rates. Quite soon, Council tax will be the only source of income for councils due to Government legislation.
To help with the earlier parts of this stream, the money spent on the road projects in Stockport centre is funded by Central Government after a successful bid for funds from a national pool, by Stockport. This doesn't affect local spending.
We are currently working on potential improvements to Marple Centre and the Neighbourhood Plan team are involving residents as best we can. Some cash has been set aside for this, not a huge amount but it is a live project.
If there is an issue with a boiler at a school please do let me know. I'm not aware of this and I try to stay in touch with all our ward schools. I'm working on about four issues with them at present. I meet the Head of Education monthly and am on the Scrutiny Committee for schools and can raise any issues which get stuck.  Schools can themselves raise significant issues of spend shortfall on capital work like this through the Governors. In Marple North, we have an extremely competent group of Heads and good Boards of Governors who run our schools very well in my view. 
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: Malcolm Allan on February 07, 2018, 05:12:59 PM
Further to my post below, yes proceeds from the sale of the two school sites, the Dale and Peacefield, were ring-fenced for Education capital projects in the Borough. Yes pupils from both schools  were transferred to Rose Hill and yes capital from the same budget was used to extend and improve Rose Hill.
Just to repeat again, if there is a particular concern on capital issue at another school where the boiler was mentioned, please get in touch and I'll see if I can help.
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: Steve Gribbon on February 07, 2018, 08:29:38 PM
Further to my post below, yes proceeds from the sale of the two school sites, the Dale and Peacefield, were ring-fenced for Education capital projects in the Borough. Yes pupils from both schools  were transferred to Rose Hill and yes capital from the same budget was used to extend and improve Rose Hill.
Just to repeat again, if there is a particular concern on capital issue at another school where the boiler was mentioned, please get in touch and I'll see if I can help.

Thanks very much for your help with both replies Malcolm.

Kind regards

Steve
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: andrewbowden on February 07, 2018, 10:49:31 PM
Further to my post below, yes proceeds from the sale of the two school sites, the Dale and Peacefield, were ring-fenced for Education capital projects in the Borough. Yes pupils from both schools  were transferred to Rose Hill and yes capital from the same budget was used to extend and improve Rose Hill.
Just to repeat again, if there is a particular concern on capital issue at another school where the boiler was mentioned, please get in touch and I'll see if I can help.

Extend and improve Rose Hill is a bit of an understatement really :) 

For those not aware, the old buildings were demolished and a new one built.  Looking through the forum archives (as I never knew the school pre-merger, and didn't live in the area at the time) it cost around £5m.
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: Dave on February 08, 2018, 11:45:14 AM
Given the significant savings in running costs that are achieved in a new building, that sounds like a bargain.   
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: Steve Gribbon on February 08, 2018, 12:29:39 PM
Given the significant savings in running costs that are achieved in a new building, that sounds like a bargain.   

My Son George goes to the school, and he loves it. His teachers have been excellent right through his school life and the facilities are second to none (in my opinion). There are parking issues like around most schools (hopefully being sorted very soon) but in reflection of the costs and ability to educate it is a great place to go to.

Kind regards

Steve Gribbon
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: admin on March 01, 2018, 05:38:51 PM
Green Party Candidate for Marple North @Carolyn Leather has recently posted an introduction about herself in this thread:

Carolyn Leather:  Green Party Candidate Marple North (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=7740.0)

Carolyn has been a registered forum member since 2015 and we look forward to her contributions now that she has stepped up as a candidate in the local elections.
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: andrewbowden on March 14, 2018, 01:32:59 PM
Out of interest, anyone heard anything about a Tory candidate for Marple North?  Not my ward, but presumably they're putting up someone? 

Although if they're not, at least there will be some competition in the election - remember one election in the 1990s in Tameside where there was just one candidate on the ballot paper!
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: admin on March 14, 2018, 03:39:08 PM
Out of interest, anyone heard anything about a Tory candidate for Marple North?  Not my ward, but presumably they're putting up someone? 

I have asked the question and been told that there isn't one yet, although there is a "Campaigner for Marple North". Not sure how that works without a candidate.
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: admin on April 07, 2018, 06:00:24 AM
Spotted a snippet that suggests there is now a Conservative candidate for Marple North called Hannah Sneddon.

Haven't seen any proper announcements though.

Could @CllrKennyBlair  @TomDowseMarpleSouth @yvonnecollier  or Marple North Campaigner @JohnBates  let Hannah know that there is an opportunity to introduce herself here.
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: admin on April 09, 2018, 02:24:00 PM
Independent candidate for Marple North Kevin Dowling has posted his manifesto in this thread today:

Kevin Dowling: Independent Candidate for Marple North (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=7794.0)
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
Post by: admin on April 23, 2018, 10:42:50 PM
Marple North Conservative Campaigner @JohnBates has introduced Conservative Candidate for Marple North Hannah Sneddon:

Hannah Sneddon: Conservative Candidate Marple North (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=7830.0)
Title: Re: Who are the Candidates for Local Councillor in May 2018?
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