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Blimey there's a big lump of land for sale in Marple Bridge for £100k!
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-58789783.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-58789783.html)
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The sellers want someone to buy it and do all the work in getting planning permission & they then take a share of any profits!!
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It looks highly speculative, but at that low price there may just be a few takers who fancy a flutter, given the currently controversial Greater Manchester Spatial Framework, which includes plans to release areas of green belt for development. But not this one - yet!
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It looks highly speculative, but at that low price there may just be a few takers who fancy a flutter, given the currently controversial Greater Manchester Spatial Framework, which includes plans to release areas of green belt for development. But not this one - yet!
Have you seen the land more slope on it than chadwick street car park .and a large stream .
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I doubt whether the slope is any steeper than that on the nearby 'painters estate'.
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It's certainly an attractive price and if a few hardworking individuals can raise 100 for the skate park could a similar sum be raised to secure this plot of land for public use or at least none development use.
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For the agent to acknowledge “Possibility of Developing Part of the Land in the Future” I would say this is a done deal with the planning offices. Just a few hoops to jump through and a couple of visits to speaker’s panel. The asking prices of £100K is a bit unrealistic more like £300K. Take Mellor Brook for example of what a developer can do with a couple of acres. This is the beginning of the in fill to Ley Lane, such a shame.
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For the agent to acknowledge “Possibility of Developing Part of the Land in the Future” I would say this is a done deal with the planning offices. Just a few hoops to jump through and a couple of visits to speaker’s panel. The asking prices of £100K is a bit unrealistic more like £300K. Take Mellor Brook for example of what a developer can do with a couple of acres. This is the beginning of the in fill to Ley Lane, such a shame.
Are you the vendor Leejo? I rather suspect you are ;)
If it was a done deal, or worth £300K, why do you think it is being sold for £100K with a covenant for 20 years? Nope, guaranteed that it won't get planning permission in at least 5 years, probably closer to 10, and then will we need it given HS2 will have been scrapped by then and the PP for 4000 homes on High Lane then being surplus to requirements?
It'll be bought but probably by a cash rich individual fed up with 0.25% interest seeing this as a long term "pension".
RH.
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It'll be bought but probably by a cash rich individual fed up with 0.25% interest seeing this as a long term "pension".
Will that be you then @Phil ?
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Anyone with an interest in preserving this woodland should get in touch with the Woodland Trust
http://www.woodlandtrust.org.uk
They may be able to help or offer advise with this.
No use saying "What a shame" when the paperwork is signed by a developer who is prepared to "sit" on it until he's ready to apply for planning permission.
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I could see someone getting planning to put one big house on the land with large grounds etc, or it must being brought by someone that owns a house overlooking it, as to do extend their grounds.
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I could see someone getting planning to put one big house on the land with large grounds etc, or it must being brought by someone that owns a house overlooking it, as to do extend their grounds.
ITS NIGHTMARE LAND.
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ITS NIGHTMARE LAND.
Oh, why?
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It may be worth speaking to the Rollins Wood group who have recently done similar.
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Oh, why?
Have you seen it .if so tell me about it .then i will know if you have seen it
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Have you seen it .if so tell me about it .then i will know if you have seen it
Henrietta was simply asking you to explain your comment that it's "nightmare land". It seems quite a reasonable request and that's a very odd response to it.
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Henrietta was simply asking you to explain your comment that it's "nightmare land". It seems quite a reasonable request and that's a very odd response to it.
Quite unsuitable for building on there is a large culvert runs right through the area it has a large gradiant on both sides hence my comment nightmare land .
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If I had the money for a "grand design type home", it could make a good site for a tree house build on large legs, so avoiding the issues with slopes etc.
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If I had the money for a "grand design type home", it could make a good site for a tree house build on large legs, so avoiding the issues with slopes etc.
With culvert underneath .
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The Friends of Ludworth Park, a new group set up to try to save and then improve the small park off Glossop Road, near the Windsor Castle pub, have called a public meeting to discuss the implications and possibilities this sale presents to the locality. All are welcome. The meeting will take place at 4pm on Saturday April 9th at the Windsor Castle pub.
Let's hope it would make a great extension to the park!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8mXLDmXcAIyi3A.jpg)
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It would be interesting to find out who the owner is. If it was an individual, they would at least have a crack at getting outline planning and throw £5000 at it - Red or Black…
My guess is it’s a complicated trust or possibly the WI at the bottom because they own the land going up Hogarth to the first house on Bonnington which would have connected before the new houses were built the 80’s.
The other possibility could be SMBC who are pleading poverty just like Tameside and have started to sell off pieces of land they have inherited over the years for a quick buck.
My money’s is on the council due to the fact they have stopped maintaining the park and instead remove the equipment. The bridge in wood is in need of repairing and the path has been washed away, which was probably the final straw for the council.
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Just to respond to Leejo and to assist, the land is not owned by the Council. SMBC residents can check on this themselves as we all have access to maps via the Council web site which confirms which land is owned by the council, along with other useful information in this sort of situation, such as rights of way. I'm trying to assist local residents with their concerns about this land sale, which is mainly about this being used for development. Currently the sale notice on line makes it clear there is no planning approval, and without it, the land is worth much less. You'll see the sale notice wants 25% of any profit, if the land should get planning approval. The Ludworth Park Friends (who I know and are an excellent, resourceful, active group) are working on this and if you feel like joining them, you will be more influential if you all work together.
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Just to respond to Leejo and to assist, the land is not owned by the Council. SMBC residents can check on this themselves as we all have access to maps via the Council web site which confirms which land is owned by the council, along with other useful information in this sort of situation, such as rights of way. I'm trying to assist local residents with their concerns about this land sale, which is mainly about this being used for development. Currently the sale notice on line makes it clear there is no planning approval, and without it, the land is worth much less. You'll see the sale notice wants 25% of any profit, if the land should get planning approval. The Ludworth Park Friends (who I know and are an excellent, resourceful, active group) are working on this and if you feel like joining them, you will be more influential if you all work together.
Thanks for info Malcolm how do you find out if land has a covenant on it i have lived on lower fold for over 40 years and we were told the park on lower fold not the land for sale
had a covenant on it .....
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Covenants are not prohibitions. Like most other legal orders, there is a protocol for having them removed. Obviously there is a cost to this, so it usually depends on the perceived value of any development to the developer.
The point is, never assume that there is irrevocable protection in a land covenant because there isn't.
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It would be interesting to find out who the owner is. If it was an individual, they would at least have a crack at getting outline planning and throw £5000 at it - Red or Black…
My guess is it’s a complicated trust or possibly the WI at the bottom because they own the land going up Hogarth to the first house on Bonnington which would have connected before the new houses were built the 80’s.
The other possibility could be SMBC who are pleading poverty just like Tameside and have started to sell off pieces of land they have inherited over the years for a quick buck.
My money’s is on the council due to the fact they have stopped maintaining the park and instead remove the equipment. The bridge in wood is in need of repairing and the path has been washed away, which was probably the final straw for the council.
This land could belong to the builder that built the estate [bonington rise ] some of it he would not build on to sandy .i am now going back a good while i remember it when all of it was just fields .
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This land could belong to the builder that built the estate [bonington rise ] some of it he would not build on to sandy .i am now going back a good while i remember it when all of it was just fields .
If you go to file 66 virtual tour it shows you the land before some of it was built on as one complete fields .any one know who built the houses on there .i was a local estate agent that sold them not now around of coarse ,
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If you go to file 66 virtual tour
Think this is the one you mean @amazon:
(http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/albums/uploads/new/mlhs08/mlhs_from-heys-farm-to-lower-fold-heys-farm-left-now-constable-estate.jpg)
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Think this is the one you mean @amazon:
(http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/albums/uploads/new/mlhs08/mlhs_from-heys-farm-to-lower-fold-heys-farm-left-now-constable-estate.jpg)
yes, This side of the trees is the recreation ground now.
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With culvert underneath .
I once stayed in a holiday cottage in Ambleside that had a stream running underneath it. One end of the stream popped out from under the conservatory and ran through the garden. It's this one: http://www.heartofthelakes.co.uk/property/ambleside-troutbeck/little-brook/1256
So such things are not insolvable.
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Henrietta was simply asking you to explain your comment that it's "nightmare land". It seems quite a reasonable request and that's a very odd response to it.
Thanks, Admin :)
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I notice that the two large detached houses (including one with a tennis court) on the left as you come down from Glossop, which appear to have a fair bit of land, suddenly sold, after a long wait, within a couple of days of each other a while ago. They still don't appear to be lived in.
Is this a co-incidence or might it have anything to do with the sale of the land. A builder who has an eye to the main chance perhaps - knock 'em down and build a bigger estate? Or am I indulging in conspiracy theory?
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I notice that the two large detached houses (including one with a tennis court) on the left as you come down from Glossop, which appear to have a fair bit of land, suddenly sold, after a long wait, within a couple of days of each other a while ago. They still don't appear to be lived in.
Is this a co-incidence or might it have anything to do with the sale of the land. A builder who has an eye to the main chance perhaps - knock 'em down and build a bigger estate? Or am I indulging in conspiracy theory?
YES . you are .