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Title: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: admin on January 31, 2015, 06:40:51 AM
I didn't realise that the Travellers' Call had closed but just found that it's up for auction:

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To be sold by Public Auction on 26/02/2015 at the Manchester City Football Club - vacant former public house approximately 125 sq m(1369 sq ft) with development potential

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-for-sale/property-33506295.html

Amazing the rate that they're closing down around here.

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Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: My login is Henrietta on February 17, 2015, 04:47:05 PM
I've heard that it has been withdrawn from auction. Can't speak for the veracity of the rumour but the Auctioneers' sign was still up this morning.
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: u360213 on February 19, 2015, 12:18:25 PM
Before it closed its doors the regulars signed a petition to seek a 'stay of execution'. Here is an excerpt from the most recent communication:

"Stockport Council received our group nomination on 12/01/2015 to try and register the pub as an asset of community value under the Localism Act 2012. The Localism Act gives new community rights, one of which is the Right to Bid. The aim of the Right to Bid is to empower local communities wishing to protect valuable local buildings so that when they come up for sale, the community will have a chance to delay the sale in order to prepare a bid to buy it. By signing up to the campaign, you are in no way committing anything financially but if we can delay the sale by 6 months, we are hoping that we can get funding as a local group to raise the money needed to keep it as a treasured meeting place going into the future. There are different options that we can look at and help is available when we get to that stage."

If anyone would like to comment or join the petitioners you can contact Jason via savethetravs@yahoo.com

Cheers, Max

Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: admin on February 24, 2015, 06:37:47 PM
Further to finding out about this I've been in touch with Jason to see how we might be able to help.

Jason says that the council will be making a decision about the application for the pub to become an "Asset of Community Value" by the end of the week.

What he needs by Thursday THIS week is for anyone who cares about loosing yet another pub in our area to drop him an an email of support stating:

What does the Travellers Call mean to you as a member of our local community and why should it be listed as an asset of community value?


If you care about this please send your comments to Jason via savethetravs@yahoo.com

Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: My login is Henrietta on February 24, 2015, 10:10:44 PM
Further to finding out about this I've been in touch with Jason to see how we might be able to help.

Jason says that the council will be making a decision about the application for the pub to become an "Asset of Community Value" by the end of the week.

What he needs by Thursday THIS week is for anyone who cares about loosing yet another pub in our area to drop him an an email of support stating:

What does the Travellers Call mean to you as a member of our local community and why should it be listed as an asset of community value?


If you care about this please send your comments to Jason via savethetravs@yahoo.com
From a purely practical point of view I drive past the Travellers every evening and when it was still open, if there was one person in there they were lucky. It begs the question if people want to save it where the customers are going to come from? If they don't have support from local residents they haven't a cat in hell's chance of succeeding.
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: mikes on February 25, 2015, 12:07:14 PM
For £100k it would make a nice private house. 
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: Dave on February 25, 2015, 12:20:03 PM
From a purely practical point of view I drive past the Travellers every evening and when it was still open, if there was one person in there they were lucky. It begs the question if people want to save it where the customers are going to come from? If they don't have support from local residents they haven't a cat in hell's chance of succeeding.

Good point, but experience elsewhere suggests that community pub buyouts can work in revitalising seemingly moribund pubs, through a mixture of galvanising local support and putting in a more responsive management which transforms it into the kind of pub that local people actually want. 

It would be very sad to see it die - after all, it's not that long since there were two pubs opposite one another up there! 
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: ringi on February 25, 2015, 05:04:35 PM
Why does Marple need so many pubs?

Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: Dave on February 25, 2015, 05:42:00 PM
Because people are different, and so are pubs.  They come in all shapes and sizes - big pubs, small pubs, posh pubs, basic pubs, gastropubs, basic food pubs, Sky Sports pubs, summer pubs, winter pubs, pubs that welcome children, pubs that don't, quiet pubs, pubs with music, pubs without. 

The Great British Pub is a much loved institution, envied by people from other countries who love using them when they visit the UK.  It's bad news that so many are closing: once they have gone they've gone, and it's hard to see them re-opening.  That would be a sad loss.
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: Harry on February 25, 2015, 07:20:26 PM
Why does Marple need so many pubs?

It doesn't. They are going out of business because people aren't using them.
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: My login is Henrietta on February 25, 2015, 08:58:49 PM
It doesn't. They are going out of business because people aren't using them.
It's too easy to pick up a multipack of beer and a bottle of wine along with the shopping and stay in in front of your own fire and television - cheaper too.

Did pubs start on the downward slide when supermarkets were allowed to have alcohol licences? Can really be blamed on the smoking ban or the breathalyser?

I see the Grey Mare in Charlesworth is up for grabs again - 3rd time in about 18 months and the George and Dragon opposite hardly ever has more than one or two customers in it. I'm surprised Robinsons allow it to carry on.
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: admin on March 12, 2015, 07:13:04 AM
Well done to the lady who got up and spoke in support of making the Traveller's Call an asset of community value at Marple Area Committee last night.

The vote was very tight with 3 to 2 in favour (1 excluded from the vote) and the lady made all the difference.

There was also a Robinsons spokesperson there who read out a letter opposing it who "wasn't sure" if they were selling it with a covenant on it to prevent it reopening as a rival pub.

The real hard work starts now for the community group who want to save it and I hope that they can see it through.
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: Dave on March 12, 2015, 10:09:29 AM
That's very good news, Mark, and good luck to the community group who are trying to save the pub.

But it's surprising and disappointing that two of our councillors voted against it.  Maybe I'm being a bit innocent here, but I thought councillors were supposed to support their local communities? 
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: admin on March 12, 2015, 11:23:05 AM
The officer presenting the application didn't put it across in a very supportive way and Robinson's letter read out by their rep made a strong case that the pub was not commercially viable. It was going down the pan altogether until the lady got up and spoke up for it. Even though she wasn't prepared because she didn't know she could speak she did just enough to swing it.

What I find most disappointing is the way that Robinson's come across to me in this. They seem to be saying that they can no longer make a success of this pub in this location, that it is not commercially viable, yet they wish to sell it with a covenant on it that means that nobody else can even try. If they are right and the pub is doomed why do they feel the need to protect themselves in this way?  It makes them seem like they are frightened of fair competition and determined to maintain their stranglehold on the local pub scene regardless of what the community wants.
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: Dave on March 12, 2015, 12:11:32 PM
Quite so.  From Robinson's narrow point of view, they don't want someone to come along and make a success of the Traveller's because  that could take business away from other Robbie's pubs nearby, such as the Windsor Castle and the Hare and Hounds (Mill Brow). 

But then it's a commercial business, who we should not expect to have any sense of responsibility to the local community.   Councillors, on the other hand...........
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: amazon on March 12, 2015, 01:24:27 PM
The officer presenting the application didn't put it across in a very supportive way and Robinson's letter read out by their rep made a strong case that the pub was not commercially viable. It was going down the pan altogether until the lady got up and spoke up for it. Even though she wasn't prepared because she didn't know she could speak she did just enough to swing it.

What I find most disappointing is the way that Robinson's come across to me in this. They seem to be saying that they can no longer make a success of this pub in this location, that it is not commercially viable, yet they wish to sell it with a covenant on it that means that nobody else can even try. If they are right and the pub is doomed why do they feel the need to protect themselves in this way?  It makes them seem like they are frightened of fair competition and determined to maintain their stranglehold on the local pub scene regardless of what the community wants.
They have done this with the George at Compstall .theres someone in looking after it .but it can't open as another pub .the carvery people wanted it but Robbie's wanted to impose there conditions on it.so they told them to get stuffed .
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: simonesaffron on March 12, 2015, 04:48:59 PM
Apologies for incomplete post, technical ineptitude, please remove admin.

What I meant to say was: If it was a 3 to 2 vote then it must have been a Chairs casting vote that decided. It would be interesting to  know who voted what. You sound like you were there admin, perhaps you could tell us a little more.

Dave, The Community Asset Register is a bit more complicated than you are suggesting. Almost anything can be defined as a community asset, even your house in a given set of circumstances. It's right that some buildings/places should be defined as such but it is also right that somebody who owns a business should be able to sell it, without the hindrance of a nine month delay.     
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: admin on March 12, 2015, 05:21:28 PM
If it was a 3 to 2 vote then it must have been a Chairs casting vote that decided. It would be interesting to  know who voted what. You sound like you were there admin, perhaps you could tell us a little more.

Yes I was there for another item but watched this with interest.

Cllr Bispham and Cllr Abell voted for, Cllr Alexander and Cllr Candler against, and Cllr Dowling had the casting vote for. Cllr Ingham left the room for most of the discussion and the vote because she has a family member who works for Robbies.
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: Dave on March 12, 2015, 05:41:38 PM
it is also right that somebody who owns a business should be able to sell it, without the hindrance of a nine month delay.   

I agree with that.  But I don't think anyone was suggesting that Robbie's were wrong to oppose the 'community asset' application, and I agree that somebody who owns a business should be able to sell it, without the hindrance of a nine month delay.

However, Mark's point, as I understand it, was against the covenant on the sale that it should not continue as a pub, whether or not it is declared to be a 'community asset'.   After all, if it were not to be declared a community asset, someone might still want to buy it and re-open as a pub.  But Robbie's are trying to prevent that from occurring.
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: simonesaffron on March 13, 2015, 07:46:10 AM
I also agree with Mark's point about the covenant. I also think that if a group in the community think they could save it, then they should have the opportunity to do so.

I wasn't there so I don't know the detail of the debate.

Quite so.  From Robinson's narrow point of view, they don't want someone to come along and make a success of the Traveller's because  that could take business away from other Robbie's pubs nearby, such as the Windsor Castle and the Hare and Hounds (Mill Brow). 

But then it's a commercial business, who we should not expect to have any sense of responsibility to the local community.   Councillors, on the other hand...........
 

Perhaps Dave, the Councillors were weighing all the factors up, which is what they are supposed to do and as such were discharging their responsibility to the community, hence the split vote. They are allowed to disagree with each other, you wouldn't deny them that, would you?



 
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: Dave on March 13, 2015, 08:17:05 AM
Hmm - OK. So Cllrs Alexander and Candler weighed up all the factors and concluded that it was in the best interests of the community for the pub to be allowed to close. You do wonder how they arrived at that conclusion.......
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: marpleexile on March 13, 2015, 10:05:32 AM
However, Mark's point, as I understand it, was against the covenant on the sale that it should not continue as a pub, whether or not it is declared to be a 'community asset'.   After all, if it were not to be declared a community asset, someone might still want to buy it and re-open as a pub.  But Robbie's are trying to prevent that from occurring.

It's a perfectly reasonable business decision. As already noted, Pubs (as a whole) are losing market share. Therefore it's not unreasonable for Robbies to want to protect their other establishments by limiting competition. The Pub business is a dwindling, zero-sum game, if someone else did take over the Traveler's Call, that business would almost certainly come from other pubs in the area - most of which are Robbies pubs.

Hmm - OK. So Cllrs Alexander and Candler weighed up all the factors and concluded that it was in the best interests of the community for the pub to be allowed to close. You do wonder how they arrived at that conclusion.......

Well in a sense the community has already spoken, they've voted with their feet, and they've decided that they don't need the Traveller's Call - Robbies probably wouldn't be selling it if it had been a thriving business. So I would argue that Alexander and Candler are merely reflecting the views of the majority of the community.
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: simonesaffron on March 13, 2015, 03:18:52 PM
Dave,

If the community group resurrect it as a pub then that's great but the odds are probably stacked against them. They've got six weeks to come up with a business plan then another six months to raise the finance. By the time the Council and an odd lawyer has poked about in it, that could be twelve months. If they fail then all that has happened is that everything to do with that building has been blocked for a year, and it's remained empty. What good is that to the community, an empty building in a state of stagnation.

It wouldn't surprise me if the Councillors had set it as a test case for future applications.
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: amazon on March 13, 2015, 07:18:38 PM
Dave,

If the community group resurrect it as a pub then that's great but the odds are probably stacked against them. They've got six weeks to come up with a business plan then another six months to raise the finance. By the time the Council and an odd lawyer has poked about in it, that could be twelve months. If they fail then all that has happened is that everything to do with that building has been blocked for a year, and it's remained empty. What good is that to the community, an empty building in a state of stagnation.

It wouldn't surprise me if the Councillors had set it as a test case for future applications.
Thought Robinsons were blocking it from opening as another pub .so what can it be used for rather than a pub .if it's bought by others .
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: simonesaffron on March 14, 2015, 08:06:35 AM
Absolutely anything you can think of that suits the building. Nursery, Doctors Surgery, Shop... you name it.

The building across the road from it was a pub once, 'The Lane Ends,' now its a private house.
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: Dave on March 14, 2015, 10:29:21 AM
Obviously there are not enough customers at the Travellers' Call, and that's why Robbie's have put it on the market.  But that doesn't mean there are people who actively want the pub to to close, which is what marplexile implies when he writes this: 
I would argue that Alexander and Candler are merely reflecting the views of the majority of the community.

Robbie's are not able to make it a viable business, but if someone else thinks they can come along and make it pay, councillors should not be trying to stop them.  There are many examples of community groups who have rallied round to save their local pub, and let's hope this becomes another one. 
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: marpleexile on March 14, 2015, 12:12:50 PM
Obviously there are not enough customers at the Travellers' Call, and that's why Robbie's have put it on the market.  But that doesn't mean there are people who actively want the pub to to close, which is what marplexile implies when he writes this: 


I'm not saying that the community actively want it to close, but equally they would appear to not actively want a pub in that location either. There was once two opposite each other, but now it turns out there there is not even enough business for one pub at that location.
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: simonesaffron on March 14, 2015, 03:06:35 PM
Dave, I think Marpleexile makes a good point and you're just refusing to see it.

I can't speak for Councillors any more than you can and as I've said I wasn't at that meeting.     
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: Dave on March 15, 2015, 10:24:01 AM
My problem with this is that Cllrs Alexander and Candler appear to be acting as 'dogs in a manger' - i.e.  people who spitefully prevent others from having something that they themselves have no use for.

Very few people use the Traveller's nowadays, but evidently there are a few who would like to transform it into the sort of pub which people would use.  What on earth is wrong with giving them a chance to do that?

Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: admin on March 15, 2015, 10:42:53 AM
My problem with this is that Cllrs Alexander and Candler appear to be acting as 'dogs in a manger' - i.e.  people who spitefully prevent others from having something that they themselves have no use for.

Of course I can't tell you what the councillors were thinking or put words in their mouths but, as someone who was there, I would say that there was no spite whatsoever in their actions. I would suggest that they were simply unconvinced by the arguments put forward that it could be made to work as a community pub.
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: Dave on March 15, 2015, 11:24:01 AM
We will all agree that the community group who want to revive the pub will not find it easy, but why should their elected representatives deny them a chance to try?  Councillors above all people should  be community-minded, and it is not for them to pre-judge whether such a plan will work or not.   They should always support worthwhile community initiatives, even if they fear that they may not succeed.  Even councillors can be wrong sometimes! 
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: simonesaffron on March 15, 2015, 12:50:31 PM
Is this what you are saying Dave?

That every application for all  places/buildings/business to go on the Community Asset Register should be sent through on the nod simply because a community group is making the request ?

Where is the discernment here, where is the wisdom, the judgement? 
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: My login is Henrietta on March 15, 2015, 07:55:41 PM
We will all agree that the community group who want to revive the pub will not find it easy, but why should their elected representatives deny them a chance to try?  Councillors above all people should  be community-minded, and it is not for them to pre-judge whether such a plan will work or not.   They should always support worthwhile community initiatives, even if they fear that they may not succeed.  Even councillors can be wrong sometimes!
The operative word here is "worthwhile". This isn't the only pub for miles around in a tiny isolated village where the village shop has closed, there's no Post Office and there is no village hall or other venue for the non-existent activity groups. This is Marple Bridge not Ambridge and there needs to be some realism here. What do the protagonists propose to do with the Travellers Call?

Marple and district, including Mellor, already has two Women's Institutes, several groups of Scouts, Guides, Brownies, Cubs, etc., The Carver, soccer clubs for children, a rugby club for adult males, the golf club, the Conservative Club, two U3As offering a wide range of activities and interests, a Local History society and various church and chapel led groups, just to give a few examples, never mind a number of pubs which are struggling along. In what way would the Traveller's Call become a "community asset"?

I'm all for fighting the cause against the big guys but not for a pyrrhic victory.
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: admin on March 16, 2015, 09:28:51 AM
There is more detailed information about this now on the Council web site here:

http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/ieDecisionDetails.aspx?Id=1856

Here's a quote from the report to the committee, which explains my comment that the officer presenting it did not put it across in a positive way:

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Reasons: Members will note that the application is being made by ‘Save The Travellers Call’ who, in their application, are described as an ‘unincorporated body of 21 named members’. In this particular instance the nominating body has not provided any evidence  to suggest that there is a realistic prospect of continued or future use of the asset. For example there is no indication of how the ‘body’ would raise funds to purchase the asset and neither is there a business plan relating to the day to day running and up keep of the property. Furthermore there is no evidence which demonstrates the ‘body’s’ ability to run the asset in the future. As such, there is nothing to suggest from the application that there is any realistic prospect of future sustainability as far as this asset is concerned.

There is also a copy of the Robinson's letter that was read out on the night:

http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/documents/s69277/ti%20appendix%201.pdf

So as I've already said, SavetheTravs have their work cut out to make this work but at least they've been given a chance.

Perhaps you can also see why I said that if the lady had not got up and spoken in support of the application it is very likely that it would not have been approved.
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: Dave on March 16, 2015, 09:56:18 AM
Is this what you are saying Dave?  That every application for all  places/buildings/business to go on the Community Asset Register should be sent through on the nod simply because a community group is making the request ?

No, I'm not saying that.  What I'm saying is that councillors should, wherever possible, support initiatives taken by community groups, if the aims are reasonable and community-focused, even if they doubt whether they will succeed.  In other words, as admin says, at least give them a chance!  All that will happen is that there will be a six-month delay while the group put together their bid.  And they have still got to outbid any other potential buyer, of course.   
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: simonesaffron on March 16, 2015, 10:49:07 AM
No, I'm not saying that.  What I'm saying is that councillors should, wherever possible, support initiatives taken by community groups, if the aims are reasonable and community-focused, even if they doubt whether they will succeed.  In other words, as admin says, at least give them a chance!  All that will happen is that there will be a six-month delay while the group put together their bid.  And they have still got to outbid any other potential buyer, of course.   

So Dave, that is exactly what you are saying only you've put your own translation to it.

As well as this, it is not conditional that they have to be the highest bidder. Nor is it conditional that the vendor sells it to them even if they are. The choice of whom it is sold to, is entirely in the hands, in this case of Robinsons. They can sell to whosoever they wish and if they don't like the cut of somebody's cloth then they can completely ignore that bid, being an asset on the community register doesn't influence it one way or another. One empty pub in the scheme of things makes little difference to Robinsons but there are other pubs/businesses in Marple that are owned individually and if the owners want to close and sell them so that they operate as something else then they have an entitlement to do so.

I may be wrong (somebody will correct me I'm sure) but I think The Travellers Call is the first example of a Community Asset application for a business in Marple.

This is speculation on my part, but it wouldn't surprise me if The Councillors were sending a message to other community groups and that's why the vote was tight.   
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: u360213 on March 22, 2015, 10:09:53 AM

 and the George and Dragon opposite hardly ever has more than one or two customers in it. I'm surprised Robinsons allow it to carry on.

Why you would make reckless and defamatory comments like this about somebodies business is beyond me. The George and Dragon is one of the few thriving local pubs, I know this because I actually go there rather than commenting in ignorance. My wife and I regularly comment that they are the hardest working licensees we know. The pub is packed on Wednesday and Thursdays for their excellent value food and is busy at weekend too. I was there yesterday to watch the rugby and it was very busy both with sports fans and diners.

Please remember this is about peoples livelihoods. If you dont know anything about the place just don't comment.

Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: corium on March 22, 2015, 11:39:29 AM
Whilst all will not be a success, around the UK there are a number of thriving community run pubs which work because they, for instance, use completely different financial models, funding arrangements. If there is a community interest in developing it, good luck to them. Going off piste slightly, I went for a stroll through Rollins Wood, another community initiative, recently and though it's not something I've done before, felt sufficiently impressed to know as and when they ask for shareholders, I would want to be involved.
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: amazon on May 28, 2015, 08:17:40 PM
Quite so.  From Robinson's narrow point of view, they don't want someone to come along and make a success of the Traveller's because  that could take business away from other Robbie's pubs nearby, such as the Windsor Castle and the Hare and Hounds (Mill Brow). 

But then it's a commercial business, who we should not expect to have any sense of responsibility to the local community.   Councillors, on the other hand...........
             Anyone know whats hapening about the Travellers call its gone quite /
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: admin on October 27, 2015, 10:13:40 PM
I have someone who wishes to get in touch with the group who wanted to save the Travellers Call. They have tried the savethetravs email address but got no reply.

If anyone can put us in touch with the organisers please let me know via PM or email.

Thanks, Admin
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: My login is Henrietta on February 09, 2016, 06:14:14 PM
When I went up to Charlesworth this am there was a surveyor type person on the pavement opposite the Travellers, pointing his thingy (do I mean a theodolite) in the direction of the building and there is temporary fencing round the area at the back.

Looks as though something is happening.

There was a sign up a while back, which blew down in one of the storms suggesting possible availability for development . Demolition? 15 bijou residences to be erected on the carpark?
Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: admin on March 23, 2016, 01:56:56 PM
No idea what's happening at the Travellers Call (I suspect ideas have died a death) but there is a new funding opportunity for community pubs:

The ‘More than a Pub: The Community Pub Business Support Programme has been set up to support community ownership of pubs in England.

https://www.plunkett.co.uk/more-than-a-pub

Title: Re: Travellers' Call up for auction on 26 February 2015
Post by: admin on December 06, 2016, 03:01:31 PM
There is a planning applciation to turn the Travellers Call into two residential dwellings coming up at Marple Area Committee on 14th December:

Item 5.(ii) http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?MId=8976&EVT=101&DT=A