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Title: CRT Consultation on Marple Aqueduct fencing [Ends 31 January 2015]
Post by: admin on December 16, 2014, 06:29:02 PM
The Canal and River Trust is consulting on proposals to add safety railings to Marple Aqueduct on the side opposite the tow path, where it is possible to disembark from a boat onto this area with no protection from a fall and, I'm told, some people are daft enough to jump over the cut for a dare! If you have a view on this then follow the link to the C&RT web site and have your say before 31 January next year.

It's important that local people give their views.

https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/about-us/consultations/current-consultations

Quote from: Canal and River Trust
Marple Aqueduct

Marple Aqueduct, on the Peak Forest Canal, is undergoing over half a million pounds worth of repair, conservation and access improvement work as part of the Heritage Lottery funded Revealing Oldknow’s Legacy project.

The anticipated increase in visitor numbers following the improvements has led to a safety review of the Aqueduct that concluded additional measures are required to reduce risk to visitors.

The safety fence will be to be part of wider gateway improvements including vegetation clearance to reveal the sweep of the Aqueduct, gateway markers, suitable safety signage and improved green space at the entry points to the Aqueduct, creating a sense of arrival at the Grade 1 Listed structure and Scheduled Ancient Monument.

We have a number of examples of safety fencing and railing used in other locations on our network and visuals illustrating one fencing option.

You can also take a look at the approach to Marple Aqueduct

We would like to gather your feedback on the safety fencing options and the plans for wider gateway improvements. Comments can be made by email aqueduct.fence@canalrivertrust.org.uk

The consultation period will be open until January 31st 2015.

Following the outcome of this consultation the Canal & River Trust will seek Listed Building consent and Scheduled Ancient Monument consent to carry out the preferred options. Statutory consultation will be conducted at this stage.

Further information about the Revealing Oldknow’s Legacy project is available at www.canalrivertrust.org/Oldknow
Title: Re: CRT Consultation on Marple Aqueduct fencing [Ends 31 January 2015]
Post by: Dave on December 17, 2014, 11:33:05 AM
I'm told, some people are daft enough to jump over the cut for a dare!

I would have thought that putting up a railing on the far side would only tend to encourage more crazy people to try that!.....   ::)
Title: Re: CRT Consultation on Marple Aqueduct fencing [Ends 31 January 2015]
Post by: Howard on December 17, 2014, 12:55:28 PM
I have to say that I was guilty of jumping across there in my teenage years. Pretty sure I wouldn't chance it now though...
Title: Re: CRT Consultation on Marple Aqueduct fencing [Ends 31 January 2015]
Post by: Water Rat on December 17, 2014, 01:39:19 PM
I should remember - but cannot - but did there used to be a parapet on the non-towpath side before it collapsed in 1962?

Like Howard I was guilty of making the jump - it seems like it was a rite of passage in those far off days although I was pretty careful to get the angle right.
Title: Re: CRT Consultation on Marple Aqueduct fencing [Ends 31 January 2015]
Post by: Water Rat on December 17, 2014, 01:55:52 PM
Having looked at the examples of fencing proposed by the CRT on the link the example used at Paddock Aqueduct seems the most appropriate if there has to be some form of safety fencing.  I am not sure how much of a risk factor actually exists for the boating fraternity as the non-towpath side is quite broad and having canoed across the Pontcysyllte Aqueduct that is far more intimidating.

I am not aware of any accidents at Marple in the last 50 years but prevention is perhaps a wise course.  I am assuming that a stone parapet to match the other side is not feasible from a cost and construction point of view.
Title: Re: CRT Consultation on Marple Aqueduct fencing [Ends 31 January 2015]
Post by: hollins on December 17, 2014, 02:34:37 PM
I think it probably does need safety fencing (just in case Howard and Water Rat try to relive their youth!) The example from the Paddock aqueduct looks the safest and the Pontardawe aqueduct the prettiest.

I suspect any of these steel options would need painting every few years, however.
Title: Re: CRT Consultation on Marple Aqueduct fencing [Ends 31 January 2015]
Post by: admin on January 16, 2015, 08:04:35 AM
Some photos by Arthur of repairs being carried out on the Aqueduct have been uploaded to the Virtual Tour this morning.

http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/thumbnails.php?album=lastup&cat=-44

Don't forget about giving your views on the C&RT Aqueduct Fencing consultation before 31 January too.

(http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/albums/uploads/new/aqueduct/Mat14115_071.jpg)
Title: Aqueduct Repairs
Post by: amazon on January 20, 2015, 09:07:07 PM
   Some Great photos of repair work going on by Arthur
Title: Re: CRT Consultation on Marple Aqueduct fencing [Ends 31 January 2015]
Post by: admin on January 27, 2015, 10:52:58 AM
Some more shots of the ongoing repairs and improvements down at the Aqueduct from Arthur uploaded this morning:

http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/thumbnails.php?album=lastup&cat=-44

(http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/albums/userpics/10002/Mat25115_006.jpg)
Title: Re: CRT Consultation on Marple Aqueduct fencing [Ends 31 January 2015]
Post by: ringi on January 27, 2015, 04:43:41 PM
Shame there is not a handrail for the new steps.
Title: Re: CRT Consultation on Marple Aqueduct fencing [Ends 31 January 2015]
Post by: admin on January 31, 2015, 09:55:29 AM
Shame there is not a handrail for the new steps.

I've sent my comments. Have you?

If anyone has a view on this today is the last day that you can make it count.

The C&RT have advised that they will also review the comments made in this thread but still best to email them via:

 https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/about-us/consultations/current-consultations

Here is the IWA's response to the consultation (who are very much against the addition of the fence):

https://www.waterways.org.uk/news/view?id=180&x%5B0%5D=news/list&utm_content=buffer95f65&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Title: Re: CRT Consultation on Marple Aqueduct fencing [Ends 31 January 2015]
Post by: admin on July 17, 2015, 01:31:08 PM
The Canal and River Trust has announced that it WILL be installing a fence on the Aqueduct.

Full details on the IWA site: https://www.waterways.org.uk/news/view?id=227
Title: Re: CRT Consultation on Marple Aqueduct fencing [Ends 31 January 2015]
Post by: admin on September 05, 2015, 07:27:18 AM
Boy, 16, escapes death after falling from Marple Aqueduct:

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/boy-16-escapes-death-after-9995382
Title: Re: CRT Consultation on Marple Aqueduct fencing [Ends 31 January 2015]
Post by: Lily on September 05, 2015, 08:21:09 AM
Hope the boy makes a good recovery.
Knew something serious was happening, somewhere locally, due to all the emergency vehicles coming up through Marple.
Title: Re: CRT Consultation on Marple Aqueduct fencing [Ends 31 January 2015]
Post by: nbt on September 05, 2015, 09:20:46 AM
I came along the canal on my commute home last night, just before 6 pm. I was at first impressed to see two PCSOs on the aqueduct then intrigued to see at least half a dozen police cars and even more fire engines.

Still not a supporter of the idea of railings on there. No one made him jump.
Title: Re: CRT Consultation on Marple Aqueduct fencing [Ends 31 January 2015]
Post by: JMC on September 05, 2015, 06:12:05 PM
I came along the canal on my commute home last night, just before 6 pm. I was at first impressed to see two PCSOs on the aqueduct then intrigued to see at least half a dozen police cars and even more fire engines.

Still not a supporter of the idea of railings on there. No one made him jump.

The boy is a friend of my daughters, he is very lucky. We really do need railings on there. I found the no-one made him jump comment a little heartless.
Title: Re: CRT Consultation on Marple Aqueduct fencing [Ends 31 January 2015]
Post by: Barbara on September 05, 2015, 08:46:58 PM
I agree it was heartless - youngsters can be reckless and thoughtless.  I hope he makes a full recovery and wish him well for the future.
Title: Re: CRT Consultation on Marple Aqueduct fencing [Ends 31 January 2015]
Post by: Barbara on September 05, 2015, 09:13:46 PM
Oh and hats off to the rescue services - a great job.
Title: Re: CRT Consultation on Marple Aqueduct fencing [Ends 31 January 2015]
Post by: marpleexile on September 06, 2015, 06:07:46 PM
I agree it was heartless - youngsters can be reckless and thoughtless.  I hope he makes a full recovery and wish him well for the future.

I certainly don't wish harm on the lad, and too hope he makes a full and fast recovery. However, whilst the "no one made him jump" comment was a bit heartless, it's nevertheless true.

Reckless and thoughtless is trying to jump over the canal at a section where the worst that will happen is you get wet feet, or overshoot into a bush on the far side.

Trying it where the worst that can happen is you fall 90m down into the valley is just stupid, plain and simple.
Title: Re: CRT Consultation on Marple Aqueduct fencing [Ends 31 January 2015]
Post by: nbt on September 07, 2015, 04:59:00 PM
Sorry you are right, my comment was not in the best of taste and could have been phrased better - I think Marpleexile puts it better than I did. Apologies for any distress caused. Likewise, I hope the youngster makes a full recovery
Title: Re: CRT Consultation on Marple Aqueduct fencing [Ends 31 January 2015]
Post by: prestbury on May 22, 2017, 10:58:54 PM
Apologies for resurrecting an old thread but planning permission has now been applied for the railings to the offside of the aqueduct.

Details available at SMBC http://planning.stockport.gov.uk/PlanningData-live/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=dates&keyVal=OPF953PJHF700 (http://planning.stockport.gov.uk/PlanningData-live/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=dates&keyVal=OPF953PJHF700)

Closing date for comment is Thursday 8th  June 2017
Title: Re: CRT Consultation on Marple Aqueduct fencing [Ends 31 January 2015]
Post by: admin on January 03, 2018, 12:18:22 PM
An article on the Canal and River Trust web site shows that installation of the railings on the Aqueduct is due to at the end of this month.

Here's a photo of a section of railings in the workshop:

(https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/refresh/media/original/34996.jpg?v=01fb84)

And here's a link to the article. (https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/about-us/our-work/caring-for-our-heritage/related-articles/heritage-team/first-sight-of-the-new-marple-railings)
Title: Re: CRT Consultation on Marple Aqueduct fencing [Ends 31 January 2015]
Post by: prestbury on January 09, 2018, 10:11:18 PM
A lot of thought must have gone into the design that is in keeping with the architecture of the aqueduct.....NOT

Somewhere to park your bike I suppose while you go for an abseil down.
Title: Re: CRT Consultation on Marple Aqueduct fencing [Ends 31 January 2015]
Post by: Rudolph Hucker on January 10, 2018, 09:27:12 AM
Somewhere to park your bike I suppose while you go for an abseil down.

That's just planted a seed that isn't going to go away now! Thanks prestbury - watch that space.....

😁

RH