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Archive => Archived Boards => Sale of Hibbert Lane Campus to Supermarket Chain => Topic started by: Harry on December 19, 2012, 09:42:39 PM

Title: More scaremongering by MIA
Post by: Harry on December 19, 2012, 09:42:39 PM
I understand the following flyer has been published by MIA.

(http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/9191_503694149652648_230229431_n.jpg)

It's not a proposed megastore at all, and I fail to understand:

a) How a supermarket on Hibbert Lane will cause 'a massive increase in traffic', but one of equal size on Trinity St. won't.

b) Where they get the statistics about house prices, and again, why don't they affect the people of Chadwick St?

c) How on earth does any supermarket affect the Library, Swimming Pool or Post Office?

They should be ashamed of themselves for this blatant scaremongering.




Title: Re: More scaremongering by MIA
Post by: tina on December 19, 2012, 09:52:31 PM
I've just asked the very same question Harry, I think its shocking
Title: Re: More scaremongering by MIA
Post by: JMC on December 19, 2012, 10:47:47 PM
I understand the following flyer has been published by MIA.

It's not a proposed megastore at all, and I fail to understand:

a) How a supermarket on Hibbert Lane will cause 'a massive increase in traffic', but one of equal size on Trinity St. won't.

b) Where they get the statistics about house prices, and again, why don't they affect the people of Chadwick St?

c) How on earth does any supermarket affect the Library, Swimming Pool or Post Office?

They should be ashamed of themselves for this blatant scaremongering.


I totally agree with you. Where is the evidence for their claims? Also don't know why they attack Asda personally, they were as bad when they thought it was Tesco! I also don't get how they are not against Chadwick Street when it is the same size yet may well cause more traffic problems. Will kids on Chadwick Street be able to play in the street? Perhaps they want Asda turned down and then they will protest about Chadwick Street? Who knows, there is no logic to it..
Title: Re: More scaremongering by MIA
Post by: Dave on December 19, 2012, 10:50:34 PM
It may even turn out to be counter-productive. It's so hysterical and over the top that no-one in their right mind will take any of it seriously. 
Title: Re: More scaremongering by MIA
Post by: Victor M on December 20, 2012, 10:52:19 AM
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I understand the following flyer has been published by MIA.
What makes you think it's from MIA, there is no logo on it or anything that states it's from MIA?
Title: Re: More scaremongering by MIA
Post by: Dave on December 20, 2012, 11:47:10 AM
Good point Victor - we may be jumping to the wrong conclusion.  Although MIA does have 'previous' in this sort of alarmist stuff. But this is hysterical even by their standards.  It's only one stop short of 'let Asda in and there'll be paedophiles moving in to the neighbourhood'.   ::)
Title: Re: More scaremongering by MIA
Post by: wheels on December 20, 2012, 11:51:35 AM
And as we all know the application will be turned down by the planning authority whats the point.
Title: Re: More scaremongering by MIA
Post by: mikes on December 20, 2012, 12:53:17 PM
... no-one in their right mind will take any of it seriously. 

Unless you happen to live on any of the streets around the Hibbert Lane site, in which case you will know it's all true.
Title: Re: More scaremongering by MIA
Post by: amazon on December 20, 2012, 02:17:56 PM
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I understand the following flyer has been published by MIA.
What makes you think it's from MIA, there is no logo on it or anything that states it's from MIA?

Ask them trouble is you won't receive answer back
Title: Re: More scaremongering by MIA
Post by: hollins on December 20, 2012, 03:06:44 PM
The flyer is daft, even by MIA standards. I would hazard a guess at Miss Marple, whose preferred forum is now twitter:
https://twitter.com/MissMarple999 (https://twitter.com/MissMarple999)
She is still directing FOI requests at the college.
Title: Re: More scaremongering by MIA
Post by: amazon on December 20, 2012, 03:29:33 PM
The flyer is daft, even by MIA standards. I would hazard a guess at Miss Marple, whose preferred forum is now twitter:
https://twitter.com/MissMarple999 (https://twitter.com/MissMarple999)
She is still directing FOI requests at the college.

She can't stand the heat on marple website .
Title: Re: More scaremongering by MIA
Post by: Dave on December 20, 2012, 05:47:53 PM
... no-one in their right mind will take any of it seriously. 

Unless you happen to live on any of the streets around the Hibbert Lane site, in which case you will know it's all true.

No, wherever you live you cannot 'know' that any of it is true.   It is all pure speculation, and much of it is such hopelessly poor speculation that it's an insult to anyone's intelligence.

Let's take the leaflet's claims one by one:

1.   A 'massive increase' in traffic?    Most of the traffic to Asda is already on the roads, heading for other shops and supermarkets.   Asda will not magically create new shoppers.   Obviously there will be more traffic in and around Hibbert Lane, but this will be offset by less traffic elsewhere.

2.   'Say goodbye to letting your children play out on the streets'.   This is so ridiculous!   No-one in their right mind lets their children play out in the middle of Hibbert Lane!   And Asda is very unlikely to make any difference to those quiet side roads where children can play safely.

3.  'Research has shown nearby property prices falling by an average of 20%'.   Not any research that I have seen.  This document shows property prices falling slightly in the period before a new supermarket is built, but subsequently rising to near or above their previous levels once the supermarket is open.  http://www.trfund.com/resource/downloads/policypubs/supermarkets.pdf

4.  'The library, swimming pool and post office may close'.  Yes, and the world will come to an end tomorrow.................    ;D

 
Title: Re: More scaremongering by MIA
Post by: admin on December 20, 2012, 05:49:42 PM
Marple in Action Chairman David Hoyle has confirmed that the "Act NOW to Block Asda" leaflet was not published by Marple in Action.
Title: Re: More scaremongering by MIA
Post by: sooty2 on December 20, 2012, 06:09:39 PM
I can assure you that David Hoyle does not know EVERTHING that Marple in Action are doing.
Title: Re: More scaremongering by MIA
Post by: Bluezorro on December 20, 2012, 06:23:53 PM
Maybe asda sent the flyer out to discredit opposition.
Title: Re: More scaremongering by MIA
Post by: amazon on December 20, 2012, 07:34:07 PM
I can assure you that David Hoyle does not know EVERTHING that Marple in Action are doing.

That sums MIA up they don't know what they are doing what a shambles .
Title: Re: More scaremongering by MIA
Post by: sooty2 on December 20, 2012, 07:39:36 PM
I can assure you that David Hoyle does not know EVERTHING that Marple in Action are doing.

That sums MIA up they don't know what they are doing what a shambles .
Amazon. please feel free to carry on with yourself, HO Ho HO! Merry Christmas
Title: Re: More scaremongering by MIA
Post by: amazon on December 20, 2012, 07:44:52 PM
I can assure you that David Hoyle does not know EVERTHING that Marple in Action are doing.

That sums MIA up they don't know what they are doing what a shambles .
Amazon. please feel free to carry on with yourself, HO Ho HO! Merry Christmas

And Dominos to you to . It's nearly ready .
Title: Re: More scaremongering by MIA
Post by: Tricky on December 20, 2012, 09:16:33 PM
 This really is awesome.. I wish I had received a hard copy

 :D hahaha I'm posting it again..

(http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/9191_503694149652648_230229431_n.jpg)

I'd honestly LOVE to have a conversation with whoever constructed that utter mess.

Title: Re: More scaremongering by MIA
Post by: hollins on December 20, 2012, 11:04:48 PM
The flyer is daft, even by MIA standards. I would hazard a guess at Miss Marple, whose preferred forum is now twitter:
https://twitter.com/MissMarple999 (https://twitter.com/MissMarple999)
She is still directing FOI requests at the college.

Well that elicited a rapid response! - she has promptly protected her tweets. Guilty conscience perhaps?