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Archive => Archived Boards => Local Issues => Topic started by: Duke Fame on July 09, 2012, 10:22:11 PM
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Ok, has Asda given up the plans now the thread has gone?
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Having returned from a weekend camping I've decided to take the supermarket forum off-line for review.
found this in System Announcements! hope it helps a little
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Howard,
As far as I am aware I have never used an obscenity or a swear word in any of my postings. I have never called anybody "stupid" or an "idiot" or any other name I can think of. Sometimes my own posts might stray a little from the point, sometimes they may even become incoherent and sometimes they contain, grammatical/punctuation/typo errors.
Like many other posters on here I use this website(AND I AM GRATEFUL FOR IT BEING SET UP AND MANAGED) so that I can engage in a frank interchange of views with my neighbours. Sometimes these views are expressed with candour and sometimes they are expressed with passion and assertion. There is little point in engaging with people who do not believe in what they are saying and sometimes their human side shows in what they write, sometimes their personal prejudices come to the fore as sometimes mine do.
What does it matter if people do go a little "off topic" ? Where is the harm in it ? Some people are more literate than others, some people are more expressive than others. People have a variety of humour. One man's tragedy ia anothers hilarity What is wrong with a little "sniping" and what does "condescending post mean"...what exactly is wrong with being condescending anyway ? Some people are. The list of human difference is truly endless.
As I said earlier I am eternally grateful for all the work (probably unpaid) that you and your colleagues put into managing this site and I enjoy my interaction on it. Nevertheless, some recent posts were deleted by you, mine amongst them and I cannot understand why other than it seems you personally did not appreciate them. I am becoming increasingly perplexed by the rules in relation to this. I accept that there cannot be a free for all and there has to be some rules but exactly what are they and who are they for, would you be so kind as to explain ?
I sincerely hope that you will consider this fit to post.
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Good post most of which I agree with Simone.
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I have also had posts removed. In the past I have expressed my opinion of work that I have had done by a local firm which was totally unacceptable and I thought I was being helpful by warning people but the post was removed as being offensive. I also would like the rules explained as it seems some people can post offensive posts and others cannot.
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I sincerely hope that you will consider this fit to post.
Simone,
This website is paid for, run and managed by Mark (rather formally known as "admin" around these parts) on behalf of the people of Marple. As such, it is entirely his decision as to what happens to it and how it is run. With the emergence or the supermarket topic a year or so ago, Mark did not have the time to moderate the board by himself and he asked Lisa and me, as long time users of the forum, to assist with moderation.
Last weekend, with the meeting and the unveiling of the plans at the college , the number of related posts increased vastly. Initially posts were measured but quickly degenerated into point scoring and name calling. I was the only moderator "on duty" this weekend so I locked the thread at the point where the debate got out of hand and moved all subsequent posts, reasonable or not, into a moderators section. Please note, no threads are ever deleted from this board, they are just moved out of the public eye. My intention was to look at all the posts and move those which didn't breach the board's guidelines back to their original threads. I'm fairly certain that yours would be amongst those moved back.
However, before I could get around to that task, Mark took the supermarket thread offline as is his right. Once he decides how the debate should be reopened then I'm sure that he'll post about it on the "systems announcements" section of the board. Until then, there are many other less contentious threads on this board about the lovely town in which we live. It might be nice for all the new users of the forum who have arrived since the supermarket issue arrived to contribute to those.
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Hear, hear Howard!! :)
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Do you know what Howard I completely agree I don't think we need the topic ASDA / Tesco anymore the only thing I think we need is the locked topic 'latest news ' which Admin controls. I have read back through some of my posts and cringe MIA formed to raise awareness, which I know we have done and done it well. Although make no mistake ASDA and the college read the threads proof of that is when Admin has been asked to remove items and also this was spoken about by myself with an ASDA rep on Sat who was well aware of the topic.
I say take it off it has run it's time
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Do you know what Howard I completely agree I don't think we need the topic ASDA / Tesco anymore the only thing I think we need is the locked topic 'latest news ' which Admin controls. I have read back through some of my posts and cringe MIA formed to raise awareness, which I know we have done and done it well. Although make no mistake ASDA and the college read the threads proof of that is when Admin has been asked to remove items and also this was spoken about by myself with an ASDA rep on Sat who was well aware of the topic.
I say take it off it has run it's time
So how will we know when they have the plans past .why do you want it taken of could it be you think it's a lost cause .for Mia .(bet this is taken off) .
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Common sense prevails!!
Please can we see an end to the tiresome and utterly unproductive forum topic which is/was "Tesco/ASDA" and instead use this forum to publicise community events, promote what resources we DO have and enjoy, celebrate local achievement and support the town in a sensible manner.
I only contribute to the "supermarket" thread to illustrate how daft it is.
If anyone wants to comment upon a planning application - be it for a supermarket, swimming pool, mansion or Ferris wheel, then for goodness' sake go to the Planning Department and leave your comments there.
What a relief to see such a dull and mindless thread finally [hopefully] removed!!
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Im glad its gone, I was telling someone I work with about the Asda topics on this forum, they came back to me the following morning and said they couldnt read what was fact and what was fiction, and there was too much bickering, so ended up not reading it at all after so many pages .
P.s ..... New hours of opening at Asda Hazel Grove, 7am - 10pm Monday to Saturday .
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Well I liked it :P
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Common sense prevails!!
Please can we see an end to the tiresome and utterly unproductive forum topic which is/was "Tesco/ASDA" and instead use this forum to publicise community events, promote what resources we DO have and enjoy, celebrate local achievement and support the town in a sensible manner.
I only contribute to the "supermarket" thread to illustrate how daft it is.
If anyone wants to comment upon a planning application - be it for a supermarket, swimming pool, mansion or Ferris wheel, then for goodness' sake go to the Planning Department and leave your comments there.
What a relief to see such a dull and mindless thread finally [hopefully] removed!!
What's the point of having a website if you can't comment on serious issues .
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Im glad its gone, I was telling someone I work with about the Asda topics on this forum, they came back to me the following morning and said they couldnt read what was fact and what was fiction, and there was too much bickering, so ended up not reading it at all after so many pages .
P.s ..... New hours of opening at Asda Hazel Grove, 7am - 10pm Monday to Saturday .
Could be the same time as the Asda marple store .when will this go to planning .
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September at the earliest ( what the man from Asda told me at the college )
P.s Amazon, I relayed your comments about Asda wanting to close their Hazel Grove store to the current store manager , as you were told its an underachieving store, Im happy to report back to you, that its the number one store in the region for growth in customer numbers etc, , I think I might have mentioned to you, that Hazel Grove store is the also number one store in the region for Asda customer service :)
I think thats because they employ very, VERY nice people ;)
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Howard,
Thank you for your courteous and expedient reply, your comments are appreciated, respected and accepted.
The ASDA issue whilst some may find it tedious is arguably the biggest issue
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There is always going to be a debate about asda and camsfc. How it is debated I think is the problem. Sometimes people only log in to have a row, I log in daily as it is a subject I'm very interested in, However I don't post daily. When I do post its to express a view of my own, but have myself been drawn into tit for tat, for this I'm sorry but sometimes its very hard to bite ones tongue
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September at the earliest ( what the man from Asda told me at the college )
P.s Amazon, I relayed your comments about Asda wanting to close their Hazel Grove store to the current store manager , as you were told its an underachieving store, Im happy to report back to you, that its the number one store in the region for growth in customer numbers etc, , I think I might have mentioned to you, that Hazel Grove store is the also number one store in the region for Asda customer service :)
I think thats because they employ very, VERY nice people ;)
Thank you for that this was said six months after it changed over .not recently .
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Tina it's true ! I have been known to enter into a bout of flagellation after being ripped apart on this board. Take it off I say! The yes group has a face book page and the No group have contact numbers and emails if concerned people want the latest updated information. it has defiantly run it's time as it only acts as a site where around 10 people post ! I had decided to stop posting just before it was taken off due to the attitudes of some posters, myself included, I cannot believe I sank so low :-\. so let's hope it goes ;D BFN :-*
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This post has been removed. Please don't use *'s to replace offensive words as we all still know what they mean and they still offend. Admin
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First of all I'd like to thank Howard for his fantastic help moderating the forum while I was away. It was unfortunate timing that I wasn't here when things got heated again over the weekend. It is also unfortunate that last night I was at a meeting and tonight I've just got home after a 14 hour day, so I will not finish reviewing the supermarket threads today.
I can tell you that the supermarket board will be put back on-line when I have finished and the majority of posts will be reinstated. I see that will please some of you but not others. But you can't please all the people all the time, as the old saying goes, and I'm of the school that thinks it is an important topic.
I would like to address a couple of comments in particular at this time:
I only contribute to the "supermarket" thread to illustrate how daft it is.
I think this is part of the problem and urge you not to do this any more. Instead, you could use this forum to publicise community events, promote what resources we DO have and enjoy, celebrate local achievement and support the town in a sensible manner..
Much more productive use of your time don't you think?
I also want to address this particular post:
I have also had posts removed. In the past I have expressed my opinion of work that I have had done by a local firm which was totally unacceptable and I thought I was being helpful by warning people but the post was removed as being offensive. I also would like the rules explained as it seems some people can post offensive posts and others cannot.
Your post was not removed because it was "offensive" as such, but because it was against my declared policy. I have explained many times before that anonymous negative posts about local businesses are not accepted here and it states that quite clearly in the introduction to that section of the forum called "Recommended Businesses & Services":
Are you looking for a good plumber, plasterer or electrician? Ask other members for their recommendations here. Alternatively, use this section if you’d like to recommend a good service you've received. Negative posts or anyone blowing their own trumpet will be removed.
Getting back to the issue at hand, it may be another day or two before I finish looking things over but I don't think it will do anyone any harm to have a little break from ASDA and CAMSFC and talk about something else for a while.
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when i read your post i have the voice of morgan freeman in my head..
Mark your web site and forum are excellent. my mum lives in oxford now but loves nothing more than keeping up to date, with what goes on in her home town.
keep up the good work its much appriceated.
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when i read your post i have the voice of morgan freeman in my head..
Spooky. This is an actual picture of Mark:
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ditto Howard and Mark
Also, I'll put myself in this, though I don't get to moderate very often at the moment, all 3 of us have busy lives, jobs, businesses, children and Mark grandchildren! Moderating is a spare time job but when it becomes very active and vocal on here it is very hard to keep up with everything. It takes time and concentration. I understand the frustration when something you are following and commenting on suddenly disappears in front of your eyes but it does become impossible to keep up with continual posts and is the only way to deal with it, otherwise some of you would be responding to posts that may well have disappeared for a variety of reasons and the discussion would be very difficult to follow.
Lots of people use this forum for information, not necessarily to post, and I think for the Asda section does need to be easier to follow for the regular silent visitors. Off topic stuff, and condescending offensive comments puts people off, and more to the point it puts a lot of regular posters off posting their opinion. Its COMMUNITY board but sometimes it really doesnt seem like that!
Now.. i think we should go back to talking about seventeen windows.. remember the good old days.... ;D
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But do we not also have to be careful not to so sanitise debate that it also fails to represent Community.
Community's do have genuine disagreements and vigorous debate.
I think one of the key things to look for is that it does not get so repetitious that it puts other people off.
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I generally find things pleasant here and am grateful for the site and admins. I have only felt intimidated a couple of times so I just try to avoid those posters directly if possible. They tend to do it to others too and not just me so I know it isn't something personal ;D It is like every forum, you get different types and the written word can often be taken the wrong way without the body language etc. to go with it. I think the Asda issue is important as it is what lots of people are talking about and it is a good way to pass on information.
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I'm with JMC on this: I think the forum can be a very effective way of exchanging information and opinion, and it's a strength, I think, that people with a wide spectrum of views feel able to contribute. We owe a lot of gratitude to Mark, and Howard and Lisa, for their patience when we start behaving like a load of unruly schoolkids!
As for the Asda debate, the issues are constantly evolving as more information becomes available. Having had such a lively debate when there was so little hard information to debate about, it would be ironic if the thread stopped just when the real facts are emerging!
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The Supermarket board has now been returned to its normal status.
Apart from the personal squabbles that got out of hand all posts have been reinstated. Some have been returned to their original threads and others have been placed in the Trivia and Off-topic section of the forum (which can only be viewed by registered members).
I have used my own judgement to decide which should go where. If you feel strongly that one of your posts merits returning from the Trivia bin to the original thread then please contact me by PM and explain why.
I am very concerned that people feel intimidated to post their views on the forum. I would like everyone to think when they are posting a message about how they can express their personal views without brow-beating or intimidating others. I would also appreciate if you do feel this way to report the posts that concern you as it will help us moderators to better understand what works and what doesn't.
Howard, Lisa and I have had some discussions about how we might be able to improve the way that we moderate the forum and we have come up with a interesting idea that we will be trying out over the next few days and weeks. In the meantime, please be nice to each other and try not to be too personal or get drawn into tit-for-tat slanging matches anymore!
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mark , i knew id seen you somewhere before,