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Title: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: minx on October 29, 2011, 12:29:21 PM
Yep it's true, Marple will finally be put on the map as Costa Coffee comes to Marple.  Shop next to Book makers and Greggs currently under offer.  It will be split into two shops currently up for sale.  Just what Marple needs a decent cup of coffee and open seven days a week.  I for one am very pleased.  Can't wait hope everyone else sees it as a plus for Marple.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: bat man on October 29, 2011, 07:04:46 PM
Do you know were this info has come from :-X
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: jcc on October 29, 2011, 07:10:18 PM
Full details are available on the Stockport Council Planning Portal. This includes full plans and details of the approved application by Costa Coffee. This will be a large Coffee Shop which will shake things up a bit for the numerous other cafes in Marple.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: bat man on October 29, 2011, 07:13:56 PM
Thank you  :D
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: bat man on October 29, 2011, 07:32:16 PM
White no sugar ;)
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Tricky on October 29, 2011, 07:34:41 PM
Has already been posted in another thread but here's the link to the plans..

 Re: Co-Op and "Hanburys" site
« Reply #78 on: October 10, 2011, 05:50:02 PM » Quote 

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HERE are the plans/details etc of the Proposed Costa in the old Hanburys shop



http://tinyurl.com/3h524cc (http://tinyurl.com/3h524cc)
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: richard on October 30, 2011, 01:29:47 PM
I don't that Costa coffee coming to Marple will entice more people to the town centre. Marple has a number of excellent coffee shops most of which are owned by Marple residents.  Costa is part of a 2000strong chain of coffee shops owned by Whitbread who will not be able to match a level of service that you will receive elsewhere in the town. Who want's to sit and have a very expensive coffee ( way more than all the other shops) and a cake or panini manufactured in a factory. I understand that it is personal choice and I am.sure it will thrive, mostly at the expense of the coop cafe.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: artcatdog on October 31, 2011, 08:15:58 AM
Yep it's true, Marple will finally be put on the map as Costa Coffee comes to Marple.  Shop next to Book makers and Greggs currently under offer.  It will be split into two shops currently up for sale.  Just what Marple needs a decent cup of coffee and open seven days a week.  I for one am very pleased.  Can't wait hope everyone else sees it as a plus for Marple.


You can already get a decent cup of Coffee in Marple. The Co-operative Cafe serve the best coffee in the area, £1.70 for a fabulous Cappuccino or Latte, its as cheap as Chips!! Costa will struggle against them, they even have a deal where you can get a massive piece of Carrot Cake and any regular drink - Latte, Cappuccio, Mocha ect for £2.50!!! Costa won't ever be able to compete with those prices and all their drinks are fair trade.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: alison on October 31, 2011, 11:05:20 AM
Out of interest - do the coop do takeout?
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: JMC on October 31, 2011, 11:23:24 AM
Yep it's true, Marple will finally be put on the map as Costa Coffee comes to Marple.  Shop next to Book makers and Greggs currently under offer.  It will be split into two shops currently up for sale.  Just what Marple needs a decent cup of coffee and open seven days a week.  I for one am very pleased.  Can't wait hope everyone else sees it as a plus for Marple.


You can already get a decent cup of Coffee in Marple. The Co-operative Cafe serve the best coffee in the area, £1.70 for a fabulous Cappuccino or Latte, its as cheap as Chips!! Costa will struggle against them, they even have a deal where you can get a massive piece of Carrot Cake and any regular drink - Latte, Cappuccio, Mocha ect for £2.50!!! Costa won't ever be able to compete with those prices and all their drinks are fair trade.

The Co-op cafe is good but it is not set out very well in terms of seating, it is often hard to find a seat.  They could far better improve it. Also, many older people that I have chatted to in there complain about the 'banging noises'. I soon worked out that they meant the constant banging of the coffee machine utensils (or something) which is quite annoying! (Surely they could try do it quieter, after all people have paid to sit and relax with a drink or lunch) Although maybe they do this at any coffee place?
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: admin on October 31, 2011, 12:16:48 PM
Out of interest - do the coop do takeout?

Yes, they do take-out and I agree that the coffe is very good.

Do we know that the Co-Op are going to continue their coffee shop in competition with Costa or is it possible they have agreed to close the Co-Op one? My understanding - which could be completely wrong, although I have it from what I consider to be a very good source - is that the Co-Op lease the former Hanbury store from the owner and they will be sub-letting to Costa and whoever goes in the other section. If that's the case then perhaps they've done a deal?

I still see the splitting of the Hanbury building as a strategy by the Co-Op to stop all the complaints about it being empty but to ensure that it cannot be used by a competing supermarket. Perhaps I'm being too cynical? 
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: artcatdog on October 31, 2011, 01:20:28 PM
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The Co-op cafe is good but it is not set out very well in terms of seating, it is often hard to find a seat.  They could far better improve it. Also, many older people that I have chatted to in there complain about the 'banging noises'. I soon worked out that they meant the constant banging of the coffee machine utensils (or something) which is quite annoying! (Surely they could try do it quieter, after all people have paid to sit and relax with a drink or lunch) Although maybe they do this at any coffee place?

Its hard to find a seat because it is busy and its  busy because its popular - what can the staff do about that? Nothing unfortunately.

The banging noise comes from the emptying of the Coffee from the Coffee cradle on the machine, its the same in Starbucks or Costa, its has to be done as otherwise the used coffee stays in the cradle and this leaves a very bitter taste (from the used coffee) in your drink. So what would you prefer? A bit of banging now and then (which happens in every coffee shop) or disgusting coffee that you can not drink?

Yep they do take out too.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: marpleexile on October 31, 2011, 05:40:04 PM
Out of interest - do the coop do takeout?

Yes, they do take-out and I agree that the coffe is very good.

Do we know that the Co-Op are going to continue their coffee shop in competition with Costa or is it possible they have agreed to close the Co-Op one? My understanding - which could be completely wrong, although I have it from what I consider to be a very good source - is that the Co-Op lease the former Hanbury store from the owner and they will be sub-letting to Costa and whoever goes in the other section. If that's the case then perhaps they've done a deal?

I still see the splitting of the Hanbury building as a strategy by the Co-Op to stop all the complaints about it being empty but to ensure that it cannot be used by a competing supermarket. Perhaps I'm being too cynical? 

I think you're probably right. And it's seems just the sort of dumb thing that the Co-Op would do.

They have a great opportunity to do the community (and themselves) a favour, by showing that Marple doesn't need another supermarket, and they are blowing it at every opportunity. They haven't stepped up their game in terms of pricing, stock control and service. And now they are playing into the hands of people who want another supermarket, by preventing a small, convience sized store, which would provide modest competition, from opening, which increases the chances that a larger store will be built, which would blow them out of the water!
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Dave on October 31, 2011, 06:07:17 PM
Very good point, marpleexile.  If the Co-op let the former Hanbury's shop to, say, Sainsbury's, for a Sainsbury's Local convenience store,  it would probably not threaten the Co-op unduly, because those places are not cheap.  But such a move might still reduce the likelihood of a big supermarket getting planning consent. 

So by letting to Costa Coffee instead, the Co-op are increasing the likelihood of a supermarket being built on Hibbert Lane, to which they would undoubtedly lose loads of business.   However, by doing this they are also  (indirectly) contributing to the enhancement of educational facilities in Marple.  So good on yer, Co-op!   ;D
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: rsh on October 31, 2011, 09:27:39 PM
I hope the Friends of Memorial Park are ready for an influx of red Costa paper cups...

It seems a shame that the upstairs of the building with those nice big windows apparently won't be used.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: alison on October 31, 2011, 09:28:52 PM
Blimey, there's more conspiracy theories than Spooks on here! :D
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: artcatdog on November 01, 2011, 08:05:00 AM
Some people in Marple will never be happy, always moaning about something! Co-op allow Costa to move in, putting their own coffee shop in jeopardy and STILL people wine and moan about it! Co-op own that building and if they wish to split it, then they will... just like the college are doing what they like with their land, the Co-op can do what they want with their property. If ASDA or TESCO were operating from where the Co-op is now, do you think they'd allow the Co-op to open up a store in Hanburys? No would they heck!!! EVERY SUPERMARKET CHAIN in the country land banks, at least Co-op are doing something positive with the site, TESCO would let it go to rack and ruin.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: simpleton on November 01, 2011, 03:56:43 PM
Well Said
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: marpleexile on November 01, 2011, 04:14:23 PM
Some people in Marple will never be happy, always moaning about something! Co-op allow Costa to move in, putting their own coffee shop in jeopardy and STILL people wine and moan about it! Co-op own that building and if they wish to split it, then they will... just like the college are doing what they like with their land, the Co-op can do what they want with their property. If ASDA or TESCO were operating from where the Co-op is now, do you think they'd allow the Co-op to open up a store in Hanburys? No would they heck!!! EVERY SUPERMARKET CHAIN in the country land banks, at least Co-op are doing something positive with the site, TESCO would let it go to rack and ruin.

You're right, they all do it. But the reason they do it is to stop harmful competition. My point was that whilst they gain in the short term, by stopping a minor competitor from opening up, they'll probably lose in the long term as MIA/The No campaign have lost one of their arguments against a supermarket on Hibbert. It's my opinion that should a supermarket be built on Hibbert, then the Co-Op will be the single biggest loser out of the local shops, and the one in most danger of going to the wall. Much better to have a Tesco Express, or a Sainsburys Local and have MIA be able to state we don't need another supermarket, we already have two, than having only one (which is considered to be very poor by most) and nowhere else a second one could be built.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: richard on November 01, 2011, 09:00:51 PM
Seems to me that this thread is part of the anti supermarket campaign. I thought it was about coffee shops etc.
We always seem to return to the main area of disagreement in Marple at the moment and not concentrating on other issues that affect other business's within the town. The fact that one of the multiples is coming to town is just a foretaste of what is to come. I think that most would agree that Marple has to change to keep up with current trends and consumer needs, but let's not forget the small local businesses that are the heart of the town And will continue to be so, for as long as the local community support them   
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Lisa Oldham on November 03, 2011, 11:04:30 AM
except artcatdog they DID let it go to rack and ruin for years!!  Its only recently, and maybe the pressure from this forum helped, that the coop have improved the look of the building and only now theyve let anyone but themselves use it!
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Dave on November 03, 2011, 11:13:21 AM
I suspect that the council threatened the Co-op with a compulsory purchase if they continued to leave it standing empty.  Probably not for the first time - it may well have happened before, causing the Co-op to use it for a while as a showroom for microwaves and washing machines!   Local authorities do have the power to do that, I believe, although it's a power they don't like using, as it costs money, which is something councils don't have.   :-\
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Duke Fame on November 08, 2011, 02:11:55 PM
I suspect that the council threatened the Co-op with a compulsory purchase if they continued to leave it standing empty.  Probably not for the first time - it may well have happened before, causing the Co-op to use it for a while as a showroom for microwaves and washing machines!   Local authorities do have the power to do that, I believe, although it's a power they don't like using, as it costs money, which is something councils don't have.   :-\

That's not quite true Dave, councils have loads of money, they just like to waste it on other things
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Dave on November 08, 2011, 04:48:27 PM
councils have loads of money.....

Not if you believe the BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-12207706

.... they just like to waste it on other things

Such as?
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: alan@marple on November 08, 2011, 11:48:48 PM
Does anybody really think, that Costa Coffe Franchise, will survive in Marple...c'mon get real folks!
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Harry on November 09, 2011, 09:28:00 AM
Does anybody really think, that Costa Coffe Franchise, will survive in Marple...c'mon get real folks!

Why shouldn't it? The one in Bramhall seems to do quite well.

Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Razzle on November 09, 2011, 09:54:49 AM
I am really excited about Costa Coffee coming to Marple + will definitely be taking the kids there.  :)

I wish that more high street stores would open up in Marple - as this is what is needs to encourage more people to shop in Marple. 

Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: amazon on November 09, 2011, 11:59:31 AM
Does anybody really think, that Costa Coffe Franchise, will survive in Marple...c'mon get real folks!
           Your upset alan because you no longer live in marple it   will do very well .
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Dave on November 09, 2011, 01:46:17 PM
I wish that more high street stores would open up in Marple - as this is what is needs to encourage more people to shop in Marple. 

Your wish is granted - we're going to have an Asda!   ;D
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: JMC on November 09, 2011, 08:54:46 PM
I wish that more high street stores would open up in Marple - as this is what is needs to encourage more people to shop in Marple. 

Your wish is granted - we're going to have an Asda!   ;D

 ;D
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: amazon on November 09, 2011, 08:59:00 PM
I wish that more high street stores would open up in Marple - as this is what is needs to encourage more people to shop in Marple. 

Your wish is granted - we're going to have an Asda!   ;D

             Wish we were in marple . nudge nudge wink wink  :-X
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Miss Marple on November 09, 2011, 09:37:12 PM
I wish that more high street stores would open up in Marple - as this is what is needs to encourage more people to shop in Marple. 

Your wish is granted - we're going to have an Asda!   ;D

             Wish we were in marple . nudge nudge wink wink  :-X
. And a Waitrose  :o according to Peter Robinson of Robinsons  brewery !
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Dave on November 10, 2011, 10:18:29 AM
Funnily enough, I sometimes get hallucinations after a few pints of Robbies as well.......     :D
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Miss Marple on November 10, 2011, 01:18:25 PM
Funnily enough, I sometimes get hallucinations after a few pints of Robbies as well.......     :D
Sadly he was not hallucinating he had the plans from Waitrose in his hand !
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Tricky on November 10, 2011, 02:59:54 PM
And a Waitrose  :o according to Peter Robinson of Robinsons  brewery !

Asda AND a Waitrose Miss Marple?

Peter Robinson had the plans? please tell us more..

Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Barbara on November 10, 2011, 04:05:58 PM
Curiouser and curiouser as Alice said!!  Whereabouts in Marple?   ???
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: tina on November 10, 2011, 04:44:44 PM
I believe it is the sorting office land...correct me if I'm wrong MM
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Harry on November 10, 2011, 06:01:10 PM
Sadly he was not hallucinating he had the plans from Waitrose in his hand !

How odd!

According to the Robinson's web site, Peter Robinson joined the company in the early fifties. That would make him probably in his eighties now. The site makes no mention of any subsequent Peter.

Why would a, probably retired, member of the Robinson family have unsubmitted plans from the John Lewis partnership in his hand?


Mind you, if its true, and they were to submit plans quickly and get them approved, that would probably scupper Asda's chances of getting their plans approved. As we would already have two supermarkets (or one and one being built).

Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: sooty2 on November 10, 2011, 06:08:26 PM
Asda,Waitrose maybe,but I didn't know we had a racecourse.See You Tube,Alan Partridge Marple interview. :o
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Miss Marple on November 10, 2011, 08:16:17 PM
Peter, Paul or Mary Robinson went into the Bulls Head with plans in hand to show the Landlord.  The plans were from Waitrose who want to build on the sorting office.  The reason That Robinsons brewery are involved is that Waitrose wanted to use the Bull car park to have a  pedestrian cut through.  The landlord was concerned because the car park at times can be busy, but there is a right of way around the wall so there maybe a way of separating that part of the car park off to allow pedestrians a cordoned off area to walk in safety
DAVE DO NOT SHOOT THE MESSENGER !  :-*
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Harry on November 10, 2011, 08:38:09 PM
I think the messenger should be shot if he/she gives incorrect information. There has been far too much misinformation in this saga.

Stick to the facts. Don't make them up.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: alison on November 10, 2011, 09:15:45 PM
I don't think the Robinsons ever retire!
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Miss Marple on November 10, 2011, 09:45:08 PM
I think  the messenger should be shot if he/she gives incorrect information. There has been far too much misinformation in this saga.

Stick to the facts. Don't make them up.
I hope your not referring to me Harry   If you don't like what's being posted   Don't read it  ! Simple.com  :D
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Miss Marple on November 11, 2011, 09:45:18 AM
I think the messenger should be shot if he/she gives incorrect information. There has been far too much misinformation in this saga.

Stick to the facts. Don't make them up.
Go and have a pint in the Bull you will get the information first hand, thats where i got mine from!  Your  real name is not Thomas is it Mr H !  :-*
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: bat man on November 11, 2011, 12:52:52 PM
I am finding this site very amusing,some of the posts are meant to be seriouse but are quite funny,its a bit like a soap,rumours,supposed cast iron facts,keep it up cant wait to see the final outcome,will it be Tesco?Waitrose?Asda or will the planners read the posts on this site and decide to keep everyone guessing for years to come. ;D
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: bat man on November 11, 2011, 12:54:33 PM
A Merry Christmas to all,thought I would get my greeting in early. ;)
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Barbara on November 11, 2011, 05:37:24 PM
Council beat you to it - Christmas tree went up on the Hollins this morning.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Miss Marple on November 11, 2011, 07:49:10 PM
I am finding this site very amusing,some of the posts are meant to be seriouse but are quite funny,its a bit like a soap,rumours,supposed cast iron facts,keep it up cant wait to see the final outcome,will it be Tesco?Waitrose?Asda or will the planners read the posts on this site and decide to keep everyone guessing for years to come. ;D
My monies on a hat trick !
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: My login is Henrietta on November 13, 2011, 01:45:14 PM
Asda,Waitrose maybe,but I didn't know we had a racecourse.See You Tube,Alan Partridge Marple interview. :o
We have, it's called Buxton Lane. Recently I've nearly been driven off the road by a lorry steaming down the lane on the wrong side of the road near the BL campus, and crossing the road (in a safe place) my neighbour narrowly escaped being mown down by a small car doing well over the 30MPH limit. What fun it will be when Ascobury's open their store and the lane becomes a rat-run for commuters and delivery vans.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: My login is Henrietta on November 13, 2011, 01:46:30 PM
Full details are available on the Stockport Council Planning Portal. This includes full plans and details of the approved application by Costa Coffee. This will be a large Coffee Shop which will shake things up a bit for the numerous other cafes in Marple.
I don't think the cafes in mMarple need worry. Have you tasted Costa coffee?
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: marpudlian on November 14, 2011, 04:44:54 PM
Nothing wrong with another coffee shop in Marple, yes there are already a few, but I doubt Costa will put any of them out of business. It is great news that the Hanbury's building is finally back in use, I wonder why it wasn't split into 2/3 stores years ago?
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Duke Fame on November 14, 2011, 11:13:00 PM
councils have loads of money.....

Not if you believe the BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-12207706

.... they just like to waste it on other things

Such as?

See obstructions review
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Dave on November 15, 2011, 09:28:47 AM
OK Duke, so you'd rather the council spent our money on buying up a derelict building (i.e. Hanbury's as was) than on making sure roads and pavements aren't blocked by skips?   ::)
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Duke Fame on November 15, 2011, 10:34:47 AM
OK Duke, so you'd rather the council spent our money on buying up a derelict building (i.e. Hanbury's as was) than on making sure roads and pavements aren't (used by the hard hit retailers who are trying to promote their business) blocked by skips?   ::)

I'd rather they taxed us less and let individuals decide how they spend their earnings.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Dave on November 15, 2011, 11:34:19 AM
Makes perfect sense, Duke, as long as you're prepared to educate your own kids, mend holes in the road, and run up a ladder to rescue yourself when your house catches fire ;-)
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Duke Fame on November 15, 2011, 12:20:03 PM
Makes perfect sense, Duke, as long as you're prepared to educate your own kids, mend holes in the road, and run up a ladder to rescue yourself when your house catches fire ;-)

There is a fine line as to where market failure kicks in where the state needs to provide services. That line is somewhere close to education, law enforcement & fire services. It's a long way from meddling in affairs of retailers.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Dave on November 15, 2011, 02:45:10 PM
I guess one person's 'meddling in affairs of retailers' is another person's saving lives by preventing shops from blocking pavements so that people (especially the elderly, and disabled people, and parents with young children) have to walk in the road.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: spencer on November 17, 2011, 09:48:04 AM
well it could be good for some but a shame for the other cafes that are already probably struggling
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Steptoe and Son on November 18, 2011, 06:20:44 PM
There's an idea called six degrees of separation, I'm sure you've heard of it, where you are supposedly only six 'friends of a friend' away from any other person on the planet.  Duke Fame has his own version, he's only ever six posts away from a Thatcherite rant.  ;D
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Dave on November 19, 2011, 04:05:49 PM
As many as six?
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: josetork on December 01, 2011, 09:02:57 PM
I, for one, am extremely happy about Costa coming to Marple, I love the Coffee and the decor and ambiance of the coffee shops themselves.

I personally think that it is a great move for Marple and will improve the appeal of the town giving it a more cosmopolitan edge. I also strongly belief it will encourage more high quality chains and possibly bars and restuarants.

Sad as it may sound, Iliterally can't wait for Costa to open!
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: bat man on December 02, 2011, 01:08:43 PM
I much prefer my own coffee it is brewed exactly how I like it and does not cost the earth :P
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Barbara on December 02, 2011, 02:21:36 PM
The former Hanbury's building seems to be divided into two now - Costa Coffee being in one half.  What is the other part being fitted out for??
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: amazon on December 02, 2011, 03:48:56 PM
The former Hanbury's building seems to be divided into two now - Costa Coffee being in one half.  What is the other part being fitted out for??

               Starbucks . ;)
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Henry_ on December 04, 2011, 10:20:11 PM
The former Hanbury's building seems to be divided into two now - Costa Coffee being in one half.  What is the other part being fitted out for??
A travellers' wedding emporium
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Miss Marple on December 04, 2011, 10:29:21 PM
The former Hanbury's building seems to be divided into two now - Costa Coffee being in one half.  What is the other part being fitted out for??
A travellers' wedding emporium

MIA Head office ?
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Miss Marple on December 22, 2011, 06:39:24 PM

Costa was absolutely packed today mostly with students.  It's really great that our YPs  have somewhere to meet up   Well done to the person who got the franchise but just a small request if you are reading this  can you stay open later please ?
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: amazon on December 22, 2011, 09:20:49 PM

Costa was absolutely packed today mostly with students.  It's really great that our YPs  have somewhere to meet up   Well done to the person who got the franchise but just a small request if you are reading this  can you stay open later please ?

Is it  wi- fi enabled .
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: TINSLEY on December 22, 2011, 09:38:50 PM
Students
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Blossom on December 22, 2011, 10:24:44 PM
Students

They must have more money than I did when I was one.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Miss Marple on December 22, 2011, 10:32:56 PM

Costa was absolutely packed today mostly with students.  It's really great that our YPs  have somewhere to meet up   Well done to the person who got the franchise but just a small request if you are reading this  can you stay open later please ?

Is it  wi- fi enabled .
.  I don't know !  But the coffee was great !
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Harry on December 27, 2011, 01:58:20 PM
I see that Costa Coffee had one of their windows smashed last night.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: TINSLEY on December 27, 2011, 03:00:39 PM
Well it is Marple.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: bat man on December 28, 2011, 03:58:52 PM
Hope it wasnt a rival.... :o
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: marpudlian on December 30, 2011, 06:12:06 PM
I walked past Costa Coffee this morning - it was very busy - despite the college being on holiday - perhaps they could have utilised the whole of the Hanbury's building rather than just half? Maybe if the new shop next door remains empty long-term they may consider this.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Duke Fame on December 30, 2011, 08:45:47 PM
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Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: amazon on December 31, 2011, 05:23:29 PM
as posted on this forum few days ago broken window COSTA COFFEE ,there is a ctv camera on the side near the door another six inches to the end on the wall and it would cover the front of the building .as well .do you think they are not allowed to do this . human rights etc   
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Dave on December 31, 2011, 05:48:29 PM
Students

They must have more money than I did when I was one.

Aye. In them days, we'd have been glad to have the price of a cup o' tea.   In a filthy, cracked cup.

But you know, we were happy in those days, though we were poor.

Aye. BECAUSE we were poor. My old Dad used to say to me, "Money doesn't buy you happiness."

He was right. I was happier then and I had NOTHIN'. We used to live in this tiny old house, with great big holes in the roof.

You were lucky. We lived for three months in a brown paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six o'clock in the morning, clean the bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down mill for fourteen hours a day week in-week out. When we got home, our Dad would thrash us to sleep with his belt!

But you try and tell the young people today that... and they won't believe you.

(With apologies to Monty Python  ;))

Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: sgk on December 31, 2011, 05:57:55 PM
as posted on this forum few days ago broken window COSTA COFFEE ,there is a ctv camera on the side near the door another six inches to the end on the wall and it would cover the front of the building .as well .do you think they are not allowed to do this . human rights etc   

Perfectly legal.  See http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/cctv_code_of_practice_html/9_responsibilities.html (http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/cctv_code_of_practice_html/9_responsibilities.html). 
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Duke Fame on January 01, 2012, 12:54:31 PM
Very good point, marpleexile.  If the Co-op let the former Hanbury's shop to, say, Sainsbury's, for a Sainsbury's Local convenience store,  it would probably not threaten the Co-op unduly, because those places are not cheap.  But such a move might still reduce the likelihood of a big supermarket getting planning consent. 

So by letting to Costa Coffee instead, the Co-op are increasing the likelihood of a supermarket being built on Hibbert Lane, to which they would undoubtedly lose loads of business.   However, by doing this they are also  (indirectly) contributing to the enhancement of educational facilities in Marple.  So good on yer, Co-op!   ;D

The truth is that the building is not attractive as a supermarket.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Miss Marple on January 03, 2012, 08:06:56 PM
Very good point, marpleexile.  If the Co-op let the former Hanbury's shop to, say, Sainsbury's, for a Sainsbury's Local convenience store,  it would probably not threaten the Co-op unduly, because those places are not cheap.  But such a move might still reduce the likelihood of a big supermarket getting planning consent. 

So by letting to Costa Coffee instead, the Co-op are increasing the likelihood of a supermarket being built on Hibbert Lane, to which they would undoubtedly lose loads of business.   However, by doing this they are also  (indirectly) contributing to the enhancement of educational facilities in Marple.  So good on yer, Co-op!   ;D
The truth is that the building is not attractive as a supermarket.
it's attracted me!  It's wonderful !
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Duke Fame on January 04, 2012, 12:06:41 PM
Very good point, marpleexile.  If the Co-op let the former Hanbury's shop to, say, Sainsbury's, for a Sainsbury's Local convenience store,  it would probably not threaten the Co-op unduly, because those places are not cheap.  But such a move might still reduce the likelihood of a big supermarket getting planning consent. 

So by letting to Costa Coffee instead, the Co-op are increasing the likelihood of a supermarket being built on Hibbert Lane, to which they would undoubtedly lose loads of business.   However, by doing this they are also  (indirectly) contributing to the enhancement of educational facilities in Marple.  So good on yer, Co-op!   ;D
The truth is that the building is not attractive as a supermarket.
it's attracted me!  It's wonderful !

It's not a supermarket though Miss M.

cough, what happened to supporting the local inependant trader.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Miss Marple on January 04, 2012, 02:06:00 PM
Isn't it a franchise like the Spar ? 
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Howard on January 04, 2012, 03:55:22 PM
Isn't it a franchise like the Spar ? 

You are correct, Miss M. However, so are McDonalds and Subway and I can't see Marple welcoming them in the way that Costa has been welcomed. Some franchises have a better image than others.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Dave on January 04, 2012, 04:18:50 PM
Aren't we in danger of being a bit snobby here, Howard?  There are a lot of young people at the college and at Marple Hall who I'm sure would welcome a McDonalds or Subway with open arms (and mouths    :P )
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Howard on January 04, 2012, 04:34:52 PM
Dave, I said:
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I can't see Marple welcoming them in the way that Costa has been welcomed

This is nothing to do with my preference but that of the amorphous "Marple" entity. When they were much younger, I took my own kids to McDonalds for what they considered treats (Happy Meals toys etc) and I have been known to wolf down a Meatball Sub on the odd occasion.

For whatever reason, and I'm happy to be proved wrong, my impression is that the nice interiors at Costa (armchairs, wooden tables etc) contribute towards the feeling that, as a chain, it is considered superior in some way to the bright tiled plastic interiors at, for example, McDonalds.

That's too many commas and sub-clauses, but I expect you get my drift.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Miss Marple on January 04, 2012, 04:36:34 PM
i have been informed that the franchise owner is local but not sure ?
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: chicken lady on January 04, 2012, 06:32:59 PM
i have been informed that the franchise owner is local but not sure ?

well that's all right then  :P
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Howard on January 04, 2012, 06:49:57 PM
As well as local employment, a franchise will retain a higher percentage of its profit locally compared to a nationally-owned chain where the profits go back centrally and contributes little other than providing employment and business rates to the local economy.

If a business can't be locally-owned then the next best alternative would be a franchise when compared to a national chain.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: thebigshed on January 04, 2012, 08:44:23 PM
Aren't we in danger of being a bit snobby here, Howard?  There are a lot of young people at the college and at Marple Hall who I'm sure would welcome a McDonalds or Subway with open arms (and mouths    :P )

I heard a rumour that Subway are moving next door to Costa Coffee.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: sooty2 on January 04, 2012, 10:07:23 PM
Aren't we in danger of being a bit snobby here, Howard?  There are a lot of young people at the college and at Marple Hall who I'm sure would welcome a McDonalds or Subway with open arms (and mouths    :P )

I heard a rumour that Subway are moving next door to Costa Coffee.
Your'e a brave man!Rumour? :o The people of Marple don't like rumours,they may turn into fact!
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: amazon on January 05, 2012, 09:45:32 PM
Aren't we in danger of being a bit snobby here, Howard?  There are a lot of young people at the college and at Marple Hall who I'm sure would welcome a McDonalds or Subway with open arms (and mouths    :P )

I heard a rumour that Subway are moving next door to Costa Coffee.
Your'e a brave man!Rumour? :o The people of Marple don't like rumours,they may turn into fact!
  what do you think will happen to HSBC when it closes in two weeks .
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: amazon on January 07, 2012, 08:37:04 PM
"They have the EMA at the moment, they don't have to do any work to supplement their lifestyle. It should all change when the government abolish it. "

 EMA isn't payable any more, and all the students I know all have part time jobs to supplement their life style, and those that ha vent try hard to get one!

That's good to hear, I think the EMA led to students who were not prepared for the work environment.

 busy again this morning would seam to be doing OK
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Cripes on January 10, 2012, 12:53:33 AM
i have been informed that the franchise owner is local but not sure ?
When you say local, do you mean that they live in Marple, pay their council tax and contribute to the local economy or just that you remember a member of their famly from twenty years or so ago?
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: moorendman on January 13, 2012, 12:05:33 PM
pleasant addition to Marple , makes a change to have something open other then a £1 or bankrupt stock shop.

Thanks to the staff for returning a scarf I had left behind and the telephone number for this Costa Coffee Marple outlet is 0161 926 7719.

( you cannot currently find this number elsewhere on the web !  - I had to contact another franchise branch to find it out)
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Duke Fame on January 13, 2012, 03:20:46 PM
pleasant addition to Marple , makes a change to have something open other then a £1 or bankrupt stock shop.

Thanks to the staff for returning a scarf I had left behind and the telephone number for this Costa Coffee Marple outlet is 0161 926 7719.

( you cannot currently find this number elsewhere on the web !  - I had to contact another franchise branch to find it out)

In fairness to the new Bankrupt outlet, we only have one in Marple and one pound style shop. There are plenty places for a pricey coffee and over-priced sticky cake.

I wish anyone who starts a business all the best, business can only bring good things.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Marplemum on January 14, 2012, 09:15:54 PM
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I wish anyone who starts a business all the best, business can only bring good things.

I agree.  When I went into Costa for the first time recently, I was served by a local young person and recognised a few others working in there.  This can only be a good thing for Marple.  

On a slightly separate subject (maybe this should be posted somewhere else?)  I went into Poynton today, down Park Lane.  Why am I telling you this you might ask?!!  Well, I again went into Costa at the bottom of Park Lane, right next to Waitrose.  I was pleasantly surprised and impressed to see that Park Lane was buzzing with Saturday shoppers, despite the fact that there was a Costa Coffee and a very large Waitrose at the bottom of it.  A taste of things to come for Marple?  - I hope so! (although probably with an Asda but you can't have everything!).
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: My login is Henrietta on January 18, 2012, 10:44:02 PM
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I wish anyone who starts a business all the best, business can only bring good things.

I agree.  When I went into Costa for the first time recently, I was served by a local young person and recognised a few others working in there.  This can only be a good thing for Marple.  

On a slightly separate subject (maybe this should be posted somewhere else?)  I went into Poynton today, down Park Lane.  Why am I telling you this you might ask?!!  Well, I again went into Costa at the bottom of Park Lane, right next to Waitrose.  I was pleasantly surprised and impressed to see that Park Lane was buzzing with Saturday shoppers, despite the fact that there was a Costa Coffee and a very large Waitrose at the bottom of it.  A taste of things to come for Marple?  - I hope so! (although probably with an Asda but you can't have everything!).

Have passed several times and if they don't get in a lot more customers very quickly they will soon be out. Obviously Costa aims for a different type of clientele but on one occasion when I passed  Costa it had 3 people in it and a few minutes later I hit "All Things Nice which was heaving and I had to wait for a table.

Mind you, ATN have a better class of coffee than Costa - most places do. I've frequented several branches in lieu of anything better and their coffee is universally vile and the tea worse! As I think I've said elsewhere, I don't think the good cafes in Marple have much to worry about.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Marplemum on January 18, 2012, 11:10:15 PM
I suppose it's a question of personal taste and I couldn't disagree more with you. :)
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: richard on January 19, 2012, 02:51:04 AM
The big problem with costa in general is that it's part of a 2000 strong chain and therefore the quality will not be the same. As all food and drink is subjective I thinks that places like all things nice do not have to worry too much. The big chains might be able to fit out their places in a Very comfortable manner as cost is no object, but when quality comes in to play they just cannot compete with the small boys who have a passion for the service they provide and the quality of the food they serve.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Howard on January 19, 2012, 08:39:44 AM
Have passed several times and if they don't get in a lot more customers very quickly they will soon be out. Obviously Costa aims for a different type of clientele but on one occasion when I passed  Costa it had 3 people in it and a few minutes later I hit "All Things Nice which was heaving and I had to wait for a table.

ATN is also the first stop into the town on the way from the college so will be a natural stop for students wanting to eat in the town centre.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: amazon on January 19, 2012, 02:22:44 PM
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I wish anyone who starts a business all the best, business can only bring good things.

I agree.  When I went into Costa for the first time recently, I was served by a local young person and recognised a few others working in there.  This can only be a good thing for Marple.  

On a slightly separate subject (maybe this should be posted somewhere else?)  I went into Poynton today, down Park Lane.  Why am I telling you this you might ask?!!  Well, I again went into Costa at the bottom of Park Lane, right next to Waitrose.  I was pleasantly surprised and impressed to see that Park Lane was buzzing with Saturday shoppers, despite the fact that there was a Costa Coffee and a very large Waitrose at the bottom of it.  A taste of things to come for Marple?  - I hope so! (although probably with an Asda but you can't have everything!).

Have passed several times and if they don't get in a lot more customers very quickly they will soon be out. Obviously Costa aims for a different type of clientele but on one occasion when I passed  Costa it had 3 people in it and a few minutes later I hit "All Things Nice which was heaving and I had to wait for a table.

Mind you, ATN have a better class of coffee than Costa - most places do. I've frequented several branches in lieu of anything better and their coffee is universally vile and the tea worse! As I think I've said elsewhere, I don't think the good cafes in Marple have much to worry about.

Al ways busy when I go up there. There is allways those people that would like a business to close then they can say told you so .and there's always somewhere cheaper and better ,i. Suspect your one of them .
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Dave on January 19, 2012, 03:18:03 PM
There is allways those people that would like a business to close then they can say told you so .and there's always somewhere cheaper and better ,i. Suspect your one of them .

And here's another, I think:   ;)
Before they opened i did say wont last six months read post earlier [september 21st ]
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Miss Marple on January 19, 2012, 06:46:03 PM
I agree with you Marplemum I think it's great that we have a Costa in Marple for YPs to meet in a relaxed atmosphere where they can chat   Whilst all the other coffee shops in Marple are great and serve good coffee they are a little to small to have a group of YPs in chatting and laughing whilst we try to enjoy a toasted teacake  :D.  So now we are all happy don't you agree ?
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: amazon on January 19, 2012, 08:20:31 PM
There is allways those people that would like a business to close then they can say told you so .and there's always somewhere cheaper and better ,i. Suspect your one of them .

And here's another, I think:   ;)
Before they opened i did say wont last six months read post earlier [september 21st ]
That wasn't costa coffe . I still stick by what I said .
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Blossom on January 19, 2012, 09:12:31 PM
Well I walk past Costa in Marple a lot and it always seems busy to me.  It was very busy the other day and Toast in Derby Way was empty.  I have not been in Costa yet as I always have dogs with me but when it is warm enough to sit outside I will.  I will still go to the other cafes in Marple as well as I have a husband who is incapable of walking past a cafe that sells coffee without having one!
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: My login is Henrietta on January 20, 2012, 11:28:54 PM
The big problem with costa in general is that it's part of a 2000 strong chain and therefore the quality will not be the same. As all food and drink is subjective I thinks that places like all things nice do not have to worry too much. The big chains might be able to fit out their places in a Very comfortable manner as cost is no object, but when quality comes in to play they just cannot compete with the small boys who have a passion for the service they provide and the quality of the food they serve.
Costa's a franchise, isn't it? Three cheers for the "small boys".
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: My login is Henrietta on January 20, 2012, 11:35:44 PM
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I wish anyone who starts a business all the best, business can only bring good things.

Have passed several times and if they don't get in a lot more customers very quickly they will soon be out. Obviously Costa aims for a different type of clientele but on one occasion when I passed  Costa it had 3 people in it and a few minutes later I hit "All Things Nice which was heaving and I had to wait for a table.

Mind you, ATN have a better class of coffee than Costa - most places do. I've frequented several branches in lieu of anything better and their coffee is universally vile and the tea worse! As I think I've said elsewhere, I don't think the good cafes in Marple have much to worry about.

Al ways busy when I go up there. There is allways those people that would like a business to close then they can say told you so .and there's always somewhere cheaper and better ,i. Suspect your one of them .
Since you don't know me you are not in a position to know what I am.  My family were in business in Marple for 60 years so I would always support any business that sets out to do its best to give the best product and serve the community. Unless the Marple Costa is very different to others all over the country I suspect it doesn't try to do either.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Henry_ on January 21, 2012, 12:11:49 AM
Subway next door? That's the word on the street tonight
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Barbara on January 21, 2012, 09:48:07 AM
And we all know about 'the word on the street' in Marple, don't we?  Rumour and counter rumour abound! ;)
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Rachael on January 21, 2012, 11:44:05 AM
I wouldnt visit costa if subway was next door,  I cant bear the smell of the shops , and thats from the outside , but talking to other people, it appears to be just me that cant stand the smell of subway shops , I dont know if its the bread, or the hot fillings or what, but it makes me feel bluuuuuuuugh !
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Dave on January 21, 2012, 12:35:43 PM
I wouldnt visit costa if subway was next door,  I cant bear the smell of the shops , and thats from the outside , but talking to other people, it appears to be just me that cant stand the smell of subway shops , I dont know if its the bread, or the hot fillings or what, but it makes me feel bluuuuuuuugh !

No it's not just you, PP - the Subway smell makes me go yeuuuuuuch too! 
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Henry_ on January 21, 2012, 01:43:26 PM
And we all know about 'the word on the street' in Marple, don't we?  Rumour and counter rumour abound! ;)
It's from a reputable source, an upstanding member of the local community
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: amazon on January 21, 2012, 03:31:10 PM
And we all know about 'the word on the street' in Marple, don't we?  Rumour and counter rumour abound! ;)
It's from a reputable source, an upstanding member of the local community

  Mmmm.  Mmm :'(
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Henry_ on January 21, 2012, 03:56:03 PM
And we all know about 'the word on the street' in Marple, don't we?  Rumour and counter rumour abound! ;)
It's from a reputable source, an upstanding member of the local community

  Mmmm.  Mmm :'(

A pub landlord no less
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Blossom on January 21, 2012, 09:02:27 PM
I wouldnt visit costa if subway was next door,  I cant bear the smell of the shops , and thats from the outside , but talking to other people, it appears to be just me that cant stand the smell of subway shops , I dont know if its the bread, or the hot fillings or what, but it makes me feel bluuuuuuuugh !

No it's not just you, PP - the Subway smell makes me go yeuuuuuuch too! 

I can't stand it either.  Wonder what the smell actually is.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: rsh on January 21, 2012, 09:25:08 PM
Does anyone know what the first floor of the building is used for now?

With those nice big windows it'd make a good restaurant. (Nandos? Pizza Express? ;) )
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: amazon on January 21, 2012, 09:52:14 PM
Does anyone know what the first floor of the building is used for now?

With those nice big windows it'd make a good restaurant. (Nandos? Pizza Express? ;) )


Problem would be access back of building not very good .
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Duke Fame on January 21, 2012, 10:02:43 PM
Does anyone know what the first floor of the building is used for now?

With those nice big windows it'd make a good restaurant. (Nandos? Pizza Express? ;) )

Mac D's would be cool
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Barbara on January 22, 2012, 09:43:31 AM
It gets worse!!    :(
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Miss Marple on January 22, 2012, 10:24:04 AM
It gets worse!!    :(
A Bettys would be good ?
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: amazon on January 22, 2012, 11:42:24 AM
It gets worse!!    :(
A Bettys would be good ?


Don't think Betty's is posh enough for marple ,
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Dave on January 22, 2012, 01:36:02 PM
I agree.  Who would want to slum it like this:   http://www.bettys.co.uk/afternoon_tea.aspx
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Duke Fame on January 22, 2012, 04:23:00 PM
It gets worse!!    :(
A Bettys would be good ?


Don't think Betty's is posh enough for marple ,

But we have lots of tea room type places & Marple really is not Harrogate. Pizza express would detract from the Italian over the road that does decent pizzas.

A mac D's would give something new, maybe they could do drive through at the side
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: JMC on January 22, 2012, 09:54:13 PM


A mac D's would give something new,

I agree, would be great for teenagers as well as cheaper than Costa.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Blossom on January 22, 2012, 09:55:17 PM
Have to say I always expected McDonalds to take Hanburys before they split it up.
Title: Re: Costa Coffee comes to Marple
Post by: Beeley on March 05, 2013, 07:16:13 PM
Even though there is a sign on the door prohibiting dogs, they are allowed inside and to add to that they sit on the sofas!!  Poor show Costa