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Title: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: NeilCorrie on July 23, 2011, 04:07:06 PM

The existing thread is getting a little unwieldy, so could I suggest we use this one to gather the basic facts together, with source details ?  No opinion.  No rumours.  No conspiracy theories. No personal attacks.....

(Anyone just learning about this proposed development would have to wade through many pages of forum "jibber jabber" to glean the actual facts otherwise)

A "starter for ten" is below

• Cheadle+Marple college (CAMSFC) are investigating the sale of their Hibbert Lane campus. See CAMSFC Estates Committee minutes 17th June 2010, point 12. (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/Minutes%20of%20meetings/Estates%2017_06_10m%20amended%20F&G%2001_12_10.pdf)
• An initial meeting of concerned business owners and residents was held on 22nd July.
• 2 Freedom of Information (FOI) requests have been submitted to the college, one concerning covenants on the land (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg), and one concerning planning correspondence (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/building_of_supermarket_on_exist).
• 2 FOI requests have been submitted to Stockport council, one concerning meetings between CAMSFC and Stockport Council (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tesco_or_sainsburys_buying_up_co), one concerning planning correspondence (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/supermarket_plans_in_marple_on_e) and one concerning the financing of Dan Bank road improvements (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/information_on_who_paid_for_the).
• 1 FOI request has been submitted to Tesco concerning planning correspondence and the change in usage from residential to commercial (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/marple_planning).
• A meeting with residents, CAMSFC management and local press has been scheduled w/c 25th July.
• Marple Business forum are meeting on tba to discuss.
• Local councillor acting as governor on the college board is Margaret McLay (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/MMY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address cllr.margaret.mclay@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 449 9598 (http://margaretmclay.mycouncillor.org.uk/).
• CAMSFC contact for queries is Andrew Hubert, email address tba, phone number tba.
• Stockport council contact for queries is tba, email address tba, phone number tba.
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Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: Dave on July 23, 2011, 04:26:25 PM

Not a bad idea, Neil!  Two comments:

1.  The FOI request to SMBC re Dan Bank is not relevant to this issue.
2.  The meeting next week to which you refer must be the Marple Area Committee of Stockport Council which meets next Wednesday evening in Marple Library.  Source:post 276 of the Tesco thread.  I'm not aware that anyone from camsfc management or the local press will necessarily be there, but someone else may know otherwise. 

Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: NeilCorrie on July 23, 2011, 06:05:59 PM

Thanks Dave, revised list with your suggestions and addition of Andrew Stunell details below.

• Cheadle+Marple college (CAMSFC) are investigating the sale of their Hibbert Lane campus. See CAMSFC Estates Committee minutes 17th June 2010, point 12. (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/Minutes%20of%20meetings/Estates%2017_06_10m%20amended%20F&G%2001_12_10.pdf)
• An initial meeting of concerned business owners and residents was held on Friday 22nd July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013#msg16013).
• 2 Freedom of Information (FOI) requests have been submitted to the college, one concerning covenants on the land (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg), and one concerning planning correspondence (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/building_of_supermarket_on_exist).
• 2 FOI requests have been submitted to Stockport council, one concerning meetings between CAMSFC and Stockport Council (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tesco_or_sainsburys_buying_up_co) and one concerning planning correspondence (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/supermarket_plans_in_marple_on_e).
• 1 FOI request has been submitted to Tesco concerning planning correspondence and the change in land usage from residential to commercial (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/marple_planning).
• Forum member Miss Marple has scheduled a meeting with CAMSFC management and local press w/c Monday 25th July. More info tba.
• Area Committe meeting at Marple Library, Wednesday 26th July 6pm (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013;topicseen#msg16013).  Open meeting, so public can (and are encouraged to) attend. MP and councillors will be available to respond to questions.
• CAMSFC management are doing a press release w/c Monday 25th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013;topicseen#msg16013).
• Marple Business forum are meeting on tba to discuss.
• Local councillor acting as governor on the college board is Margaret McLay (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/MMY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address cllr.margaret.mclay@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 449 9598 (http://margaretmclay.mycouncillor.org.uk/).
• Local MP is Andrew Stunell, email address enquiries@andrewstunell.org.uk (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact), phone number 0161 406 7070 (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact).
• CAMSFC contact for queries is Andrew Hubert, email address tba, phone number tba.
• Stockport council contact for queries is tba, email address tba, phone number tba.
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Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: Catwoman on July 24, 2011, 12:39:15 PM

Hi Neil,

A great idea - can I add a few bits for your list:

A small group of concerned residents emailed Cllr Sue Ingham last week to ask for clarification/confirmation about the sale of Hibbert Lane Campus, and asking her as Chair of the Area Committee for copies of documents including minutes, reports, papers and presentation pertaining to the potential sale, particularly pertaining to discussions with Turner & Townsend and Walsingham Planning.
We also requested copies of any documents relating to the historic ownership of the land and transfer of ownership to the college, if the land was purchased or gifted, by whom, when and under what circumstances, details of any covenants etc.
This was sent on Monday 18-6-11 before the Governors meeting was held (we didn't know the Governors meeting was about to be held!).

This is response we received:

Thank you for your email on behalf of the Concerned Residents Group.  I understand your concerns and appreciate your wish to clarify the situation.

It is true that the College intend to sell the Hibbert Lane Campus and as an independent commercial organisation they are free to do whatever they believe is in the College’s best interest and the Council has no jurisdiction in that respect.  As I understand it they have been in talks with various supermarkets and developers, but nothing has been agreed at this stage.

As far as planning permission goes, the Council Planning department is clear that the land in question is designated as housing.  No retail development would be given consent outside the District Centre. The Hibbert Lane campus falls outside the District Centre and therefore any a planning application to develop a retail site is likely to be refused.

You can request information about the land itself and any covenants that may exist under the Freedom of Information Act by going directly to the Council.  I would suggest speaking to Paul Lawrence in the first instance on 0161 474 4949 or paul.lawrence@stockport.gov.uk.

I do not have any documents pertaining to the potential sale of the Hibbert Lane Campus and am not privy to discussions about work commissioned by the College with Turner & Townsend Consultants and Walsingham Planning.  I will look into what, if any documentation the Council has to do with this and share it with you.

The Councillors have requested a meeting with The College to facilitate full and frank exchange of information and views.  We are as committed to finding a way forward and the best possible outcome for Marple as you are.  I will be happy to share any further information I get from this meeting with you.

I hope this answers your questions.

Kindest regards
Susan Ingham
Chair of Marple Area Committee

We responded with another question, asking if any meeting between the College and SMBC CE had taken place (as referred to in the college minutes) ..

The response was:
Yes a meeting has taken place some time ago.  Again I would suggest contacting Paul Lawrence as before for more information.

I phoned Paul Lawrence, who is Head of Regeneration for SMBC with my list of questions, but got nowhere, he side-stepped every question very neatly, then had to go. But he did say that he had had 'informal diaglogue' with Christina Cassidy the college principal, that the college needed to raise £10-£12m, that the advise the college received (presumably from their consultants) that the best way to refurbish the campus was to re-trench on Buxton Lane, that 'soft market testing' was being carried out by the college to see how and who would be willing to pay the amount of their shortfall. He reiterated that the site is not compliant for retail use because it is outside the District Centre and that a large supermarket would have to prove 'sequentiality' ie that there was not an alternative site within the District Centre.
Hope this helps

Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: Miss Marple on July 24, 2011, 12:55:58 PM

Yes Cat Woman that's useful but we must not forget that a supermarket like Tesco can just purchase the land.  No one not even the LA can stop anyone from purchasing the land and just sitting on it until they either get planning permission or residents demand someting is done because the site is in a state of disrepair this is the worrying part of all this.

Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: Dave on July 24, 2011, 01:50:08 PM

Quote from: Catwoman on July 24, 2011, 12:39:15 PM

He reiterated that the site is not compliant for retail use because it is outside the District Centre and that a large supermarket would have to prove 'sequentiality' ie that there was not an alternative site within the District Centre.

That's a very interesting and potentially significant bit of new information, catwoman - surely there's a good chance of a supermarket chain being able to argue that in Marple? 

Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: Catwoman on July 24, 2011, 01:55:04 PM

I've added a post to the main Tesco thread about the situation in Prestatyn where it took 15 years for Tesco to get planning permission approved.

Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: NeilCorrie on July 24, 2011, 03:27:17 PM

Excellent.  Revised in light of above. 

• Cheadle+Marple college (CAMSFC) are investigating the sale of their Hibbert Lane campus. See CAMSFC Estates Committee minutes 17th June 2010, point 12. (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/Minutes%20of%20meetings/Estates%2017_06_10m%20amended%20F&G%2001_12_10.pdf)
• Councillor Sue Ingham (Chair of Marple Area Committee) confirmed on Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college do intend to sell the site, that the land is designated for residential use only and that the councillors have requested a meeting with the college.
• Tesco have a record of buying land prior to getting planning permission and leaving it vacant/abandoned until local authority eventually relinquishes, see Prestatyn situation (http://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/98204/tesco-green-light-for-prestatyn.aspx) and associated Facebook campaign page (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=63674749752&v=wall).
• Paul Lawrence, Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council confirmed during w/c Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college want to raise £10-£12m by selling the Hibbert Lane campus.
• An initial meeting of concerned business owners and residents was held on Friday 22nd July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013#msg16013).
• 2 Freedom of Information (FOI) requests have been submitted to the college, one concerning covenants on the land (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg), and one concerning planning correspondence (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/building_of_supermarket_on_exist).
• 2 FOI requests have been submitted to Stockport council, one concerning meetings between CAMSFC and Stockport Council (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tesco_or_sainsburys_buying_up_co) and one concerning planning correspondence (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/supermarket_plans_in_marple_on_e).
• 1 FOI request has been submitted to Tesco concerning planning correspondence and the change in land usage from residential to commercial (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/marple_planning).
• Forum member Miss Marple has scheduled a meeting with CAMSFC management and local press w/c Monday 25th July. More info tba.
• Area Committe meeting at Marple Library, Wednesday 26th July 6pm (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013;topicseen#msg16013).  Open meeting, so public can (and are encouraged to) attend. MP and councillors will be available to respond to questions.
• CAMSFC management are doing a press release w/c Monday 25th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013;topicseen#msg16013).
• Marple Business forum are meeting on tba to discuss.

Contact details

• Local councillor acting as governor on the college board is Margaret McLay (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/MMY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address cllr.margaret.mclay@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 449 9598 (http://margaretmclay.mycouncillor.org.uk/).
• Local MP is Andrew Stunell, email address enquiries@andrewstunell.org.uk (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact), phone number 0161 406 7070 (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact).
• CAMSFC contact for queries is Andrew Hubert, email address tba, phone number tba.
• CAMSFC principal is Christina Cassidy (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/CCY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address info@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
• Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council is  Paul Lawrence (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=660), email address paul.lawrence@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 474 4949
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Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: admin on July 24, 2011, 03:37:55 PM

Neil, in light of the lack of information forthcoming from Paul Lawrence as described by Catwomen, I think an extra FOI is needed. As you have this aspect almost sewn up under your name can I suggest that you should post another to Stockport Council along the following lines:

We would like to request copies of all documents relating to the historic ownership of the land presently occupied by the Cheadle and Marple Hibbert Lane Campus site and the adjoining green and car park (if they are owned separately). We are specifically seeking documents relating to the chain of events that resulted in ownership of this land by the council and subsequent transfer of ownership to the college, if the land was purchased or gifted, by whom, when and under what circumstances. We also request copies of any covenants relating to the sale or transfer of the land and any restrictions on the use of the land or parts of it.

Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: NeilCorrie on July 24, 2011, 04:11:01 PM

Mark - sure thing, good idea, now submitted, summary updated below too.  I'll also try a lookup on the Land Registry (https://www.landregistry.gov.uk/wps/portal/Property_Search) site (covenants covered here (http://www1.landregistry.gov.uk/FAQs/general/what-is-a-restrictive-covenant)) when they open for business again tomorrow.

• Cheadle+Marple college (CAMSFC) are investigating the sale of their Hibbert Lane campus. See CAMSFC Estates Committee minutes 17th June 2010, point 12. (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/Minutes%20of%20meetings/Estates%2017_06_10m%20amended%20F&G%2001_12_10.pdf)
• Councillor Sue Ingham (Chair of Marple Area Committee) confirmed on Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college do intend to sell the site, that the land is designated for residential use only and that the councillors have requested a meeting with the college.
• Tesco have a record of buying land prior to getting planning permission and leaving it vacant/abandoned until local authority eventually relinquishes, see Prestatyn situation (http://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/98204/tesco-green-light-for-prestatyn.aspx) and associated Facebook campaign page (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=63674749752&v=wall).
• Paul Lawrence, Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council confirmed during w/c Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college want to raise £10-£12m by selling the Hibbert Lane campus.
• An initial meeting of concerned business owners and residents was held on Friday 22nd July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013#msg16013).
• 2 Freedom of Information (FOI) requests have been submitted to the college, one concerning covenants on the land (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg), and one concerning planning correspondence (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/building_of_supermarket_on_exist).
• 3 FOI requests have been submitted to Stockport council, one concerning meetings between CAMSFC and Stockport Council (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tesco_or_sainsburys_buying_up_co), one concerning planning correspondence (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/supermarket_plans_in_marple_on_e) and one concerning convenants on the land (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/college_site_and_historic_owners).
• 1 FOI request has been submitted to Tesco concerning planning correspondence and the change in land usage from residential to commercial (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/marple_planning).
• Forum member Miss Marple has scheduled a meeting with CAMSFC management and local press w/c Monday 25th July. More info tba.
• Area Committe meeting at Marple Library, Wednesday 26th July 6pm (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013;topicseen#msg16013).  Open meeting, so public can (and are encouraged to) attend. MP and councillors will be available to respond to questions.
• CAMSFC management are doing a press release w/c Monday 25th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013;topicseen#msg16013).
• Marple Business forum are meeting on tba to discuss.

Contact details

• Local councillor acting as governor on the college board is Margaret McLay (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/MMY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address cllr.margaret.mclay@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 449 9598 (http://margaretmclay.mycouncillor.org.uk/).
• Local MP is Andrew Stunell, email address enquiries@andrewstunell.org.uk (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact), phone number 0161 406 7070 (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact).
• CAMSFC contact for queries is Andrew Hubert, email address tba, phone number tba.
• CAMSFC principal is Christina Cassidy (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/CCY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address info@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
• Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council is  Paul Lawrence (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=660), email address paul.lawrence@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 474 4949
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Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: NeilCorrie on July 24, 2011, 06:56:55 PM

26th updated to be 27th.

• Cheadle+Marple college (CAMSFC) are investigating the sale of their Hibbert Lane campus. See CAMSFC Estates Committee minutes 17th June 2010, point 12. (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/Minutes%20of%20meetings/Estates%2017_06_10m%20amended%20F&G%2001_12_10.pdf)
• Councillor Sue Ingham (Chair of Marple Area Committee) confirmed on Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college do intend to sell the site, that the land is designated for residential use only and that the councillors have requested a meeting with the college.
• Tesco have a record of buying land prior to getting planning permission and leaving it vacant/abandoned until local authority eventually relinquishes, see Prestatyn situation (http://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/98204/tesco-green-light-for-prestatyn.aspx) and associated Facebook campaign page (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=63674749752&v=wall).
• Paul Lawrence, Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council confirmed during w/c Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college want to raise £10-£12m by selling the Hibbert Lane campus.
• An initial meeting of concerned business owners and residents was held on Friday 22nd July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013#msg16013).
• 2 Freedom of Information (FOI) requests have been submitted to the college, one concerning covenants on the land (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg), and one concerning planning correspondence (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/building_of_supermarket_on_exist).
• 3 FOI requests have been submitted to Stockport council, one concerning meetings between CAMSFC and Stockport Council (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tesco_or_sainsburys_buying_up_co), one concerning planning correspondence (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/supermarket_plans_in_marple_on_e) and one concerning convenants on the land (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/college_site_and_historic_owners).
• 1 FOI request has been submitted to Tesco concerning planning correspondence and the change in land usage from residential to commercial (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/marple_planning).
• Forum member Miss Marple has scheduled a meeting with CAMSFC management and local press w/c Monday 25th July. More info tba.
• Area Committe meeting at Marple Library, Wednesday 27th July 6pm (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013;topicseen#msg16013).  Open meeting, so public can (and are encouraged to) attend. MP and councillors will be available to respond to questions.
• CAMSFC management are doing a press release w/c Monday 25th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013;topicseen#msg16013).
• Marple Business forum are meeting on tba to discuss.

Contact details

• Local councillor acting as governor on the college board is Margaret McLay (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/MMY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address cllr.margaret.mclay@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 449 9598 (http://margaretmclay.mycouncillor.org.uk/).
• Local MP is Andrew Stunell, email address enquiries@andrewstunell.org.uk (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact), phone number 0161 406 7070 (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact).
• CAMSFC contact for queries is Andrew Hubert, email address tba, phone number tba.
• CAMSFC principal is Christina Cassidy (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/CCY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address info@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
• Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council is  Paul Lawrence (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=660), email address paul.lawrence@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 474 4949
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Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: admin on July 24, 2011, 08:05:47 PM

I understand that the Marple Area Committee Meetings are now in the Senior Citizens Hall. Better check this or everyone will go to the wrong place on 27th! http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=207.0

Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: NeilCorrie on July 24, 2011, 08:33:02 PM

Oops.  AC meeting location updated !

• Cheadle+Marple college (CAMSFC) are investigating the sale of their Hibbert Lane campus. See CAMSFC Estates Committee minutes 17th June 2010, point 12. (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/Minutes%20of%20meetings/Estates%2017_06_10m%20amended%20F&G%2001_12_10.pdf)
• Councillor Sue Ingham (Chair of Marple Area Committee) confirmed on Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college do intend to sell the site, that the land is designated for residential use only and that the councillors have requested a meeting with the college.
• Tesco have a record of buying land prior to getting planning permission and leaving it vacant/abandoned until local authority eventually relinquishes, see Prestatyn situation (http://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/98204/tesco-green-light-for-prestatyn.aspx) and associated Facebook campaign page (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=63674749752&v=wall).
• Paul Lawrence, Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council confirmed during w/c Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college want to raise £10-£12m by selling the Hibbert Lane campus.
• An initial meeting of concerned business owners and residents was held on Friday 22nd July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013#msg16013).
• 2 Freedom of Information (FOI) requests have been submitted to the college, one concerning covenants on the land (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg), and one concerning planning correspondence (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/building_of_supermarket_on_exist).
• 3 FOI requests have been submitted to Stockport council, one concerning meetings between CAMSFC and Stockport Council (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tesco_or_sainsburys_buying_up_co), one concerning planning correspondence (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/supermarket_plans_in_marple_on_e) and one concerning convenants on the land (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/college_site_and_historic_owners).
• 1 FOI request has been submitted to Tesco concerning planning correspondence and the change in land usage from residential to commercial (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/marple_planning).
• Forum member Miss Marple has scheduled a meeting with CAMSFC management and local press w/c Monday 25th July. More info tba.
• Area Committe meeting at Marple Senior Citizens Hall, Memorial Park, Marple on Wednesday 27th July 6pm (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=207.msg15255#msg15255).  Open meeting, so public can (and are encouraged to) attend. MP and councillors will be available to respond to questions.
• CAMSFC management are doing a press release w/c Monday 25th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013;topicseen#msg16013).
• Marple Business forum are meeting on tba to discuss.

Contact details

• Local councillor acting as governor on the college board is Margaret McLay (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/MMY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address cllr.margaret.mclay@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 449 9598 (http://margaretmclay.mycouncillor.org.uk/).
• Local MP is Andrew Stunell, email address enquiries@andrewstunell.org.uk (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact), phone number 0161 406 7070 (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact).
• CAMSFC contact for queries is Andrew Hubert, email address tba, phone number tba.
• CAMSFC principal is Christina Cassidy (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/CCY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address info@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
• Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council is  Paul Lawrence (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=660), email address paul.lawrence@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 474 4949
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Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: Belle Star on July 25, 2011, 02:35:31 PM

Sorry to put another spanner in the works so to speak, but have just had clarification from Cllr Ingham on the location of Wednesday's meeting:-

Dear Belle
The meeting is held in Marple Library starting at 6pm.

Kindest regards
Susan Ingham
Chair of Marple Area Committee

Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: admin on July 25, 2011, 07:24:12 PM

For those attending the Marple Area Committee Meeting at Marple Library on Wednesday 27th July, here is a link to the agenda documents:

http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?MId=324

I understand that the topic of the College site is to be taken under item 4c - Public Question Time

Quote

4.(c) Public Question Time
Members of the public are invited to put questions to the Chair of the Area Committee on any matters within the powers and duties of the Area Committee, subject to the exclusions set out in the Code of Practice (questions must be submitted prior to the commencement of the meeting on the cards provided. These are available at the meeting and on the Council’s website at (link doesn't work).

In view of this requirement it would be of benefit to go well prepared with questions to put on the cards prior to the meeting. Even better perhaps to fill the cards out before hand but the link that says these are available on-line doesn't work, so maybe it would help to contact Officer: Steve Fox 0161 474 3206 email: stephen.fox@stockport.gov.uk to get a supply. Also check out if there are limits to how many questions individuals can ask.

Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: NeilCorrie on July 25, 2011, 08:13:55 PM

AC meeting back in the library again, and link to agenda added.

• Cheadle+Marple college (CAMSFC) are investigating the sale of their Hibbert Lane campus. See CAMSFC Estates Committee minutes 17th June 2010, point 12. (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/Minutes%20of%20meetings/Estates%2017_06_10m%20amended%20F&G%2001_12_10.pdf)
• Councillor Sue Ingham (Chair of Marple Area Committee) confirmed on Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college do intend to sell the site, that the land is designated for residential use only and that the councillors have requested a meeting with the college.
• Tesco have a record of buying land prior to getting planning permission and leaving it vacant/abandoned until local authority eventually relinquishes, see Prestatyn situation (http://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/98204/tesco-green-light-for-prestatyn.aspx) and associated Facebook campaign page (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=63674749752&v=wall).
• Paul Lawrence, Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council confirmed during w/c Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college want to raise £10-£12m by selling the Hibbert Lane campus.
• An initial meeting of concerned business owners and residents was held on Friday 22nd July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013#msg16013).
• 2 Freedom of Information (FOI) requests have been submitted to the college, one concerning covenants on the land (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg), and one concerning planning correspondence (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/building_of_supermarket_on_exist).
• 3 FOI requests have been submitted to Stockport council, one concerning meetings between CAMSFC and Stockport Council (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tesco_or_sainsburys_buying_up_co), one concerning planning correspondence (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/supermarket_plans_in_marple_on_e) and one concerning convenants on the land (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/college_site_and_historic_owners).
• 1 FOI request has been submitted to Tesco concerning planning correspondence and the change in land usage from residential to commercial (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/marple_planning).
• Forum member Miss Marple has scheduled a meeting with CAMSFC management and local press w/c Monday 25th July. More info tba.
• Area Committe meeting at Marple Library, Memorial Park, Marple on Wednesday 27th July 6pm (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?MId=324).  Open meeting, so public can (and are encouraged to) attend. MP and councillors will be available to respond to questions.  See earlier posting regarding format of meeting and use of question cards.
• CAMSFC management are doing a press release w/c Monday 25th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013;topicseen#msg16013).
• Marple Business forum are meeting on tba to discuss.

Contact details

• Local councillor acting as governor on the college board is Margaret McLay (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/MMY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address cllr.margaret.mclay@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 449 9598 (http://margaretmclay.mycouncillor.org.uk/).
• Local MP is Andrew Stunell, email address enquiries@andrewstunell.org.uk (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact), phone number 0161 406 7070 (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact).
• CAMSFC contact for queries is Andrew Hubert, email address tba, phone number tba.
• CAMSFC principal is Christina Cassidy (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/CCY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address info@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
• Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council is  Paul Lawrence (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=660), email address paul.lawrence@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 474 4949
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Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: NeilCorrie on July 25, 2011, 08:27:31 PM

Response to two FOIs, links highlighted in red.

• Cheadle+Marple college (CAMSFC) are investigating the sale of their Hibbert Lane campus. See CAMSFC Estates Committee minutes 17th June 2010, point 12. (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/Minutes%20of%20meetings/Estates%2017_06_10m%20amended%20F&G%2001_12_10.pdf)
• Councillor Sue Ingham (Chair of Marple Area Committee) confirmed on Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college do intend to sell the site, that the land is designated for residential use only and that the councillors have requested a meeting with the college.
• Tesco have a record of buying land prior to getting planning permission and leaving it vacant/abandoned until local authority eventually relinquishes, see Prestatyn situation (http://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/98204/tesco-green-light-for-prestatyn.aspx) and associated Facebook campaign page (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=63674749752&v=wall).
• Paul Lawrence, Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council confirmed during w/c Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college want to raise £10-£12m by selling the Hibbert Lane campus.
• An initial meeting of concerned business owners and residents was held on Friday 22nd July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013#msg16013).
• 2 Freedom of Information (FOI) requests have been submitted to the college, one concerning covenants on the land 25th July 2011 : answered, see details here (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg#incoming-196517), and one concerning planning correspondence 25th July 2011 : not answered due to commercial sensitivity (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/building_of_supermarket_on_exist#incoming-196518).
• 3 FOI requests have been submitted to Stockport council, one concerning meetings between CAMSFC and Stockport Council (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tesco_or_sainsburys_buying_up_co), one concerning planning correspondence (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/supermarket_plans_in_marple_on_e) and one concerning convenants on the land (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/college_site_and_historic_owners).
• 1 FOI request has been submitted to Tesco concerning planning correspondence and the change in land usage from residential to commercial (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/marple_planning).
• Forum member Miss Marple has scheduled a meeting with CAMSFC management and local press w/c Monday 25th July. More info tba.
• Area Committe meeting at Marple Library, Memorial Park, Marple on Wednesday 27th July 6pm (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?MId=324).  Open meeting, so public can (and are encouraged to) attend. MP and councillors will be available to respond to questions.  See earlier posting regarding format of meeting and use of question cards.
• CAMSFC management are doing a press release w/c Monday 25th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013;topicseen#msg16013).
• Marple Business forum are meeting on tba to discuss.

Contact details

• Local councillor acting as governor on the college board is Margaret McLay (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/MMY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address cllr.margaret.mclay@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 449 9598 (http://margaretmclay.mycouncillor.org.uk/).
• Local MP is Andrew Stunell, email address enquiries@andrewstunell.org.uk (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact), phone number 0161 406 7070 (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact).
• CAMSFC contact for queries is Andrew Hubert, email address tba, phone number tba.
• CAMSFC principal is Christina Cassidy (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/CCY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address info@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
• Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council is  Paul Lawrence (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=660), email address paul.lawrence@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 474 4949
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Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: Duke Fame on July 26, 2011, 11:07:15 AM

THis is a good thread. Whilst there has been some good fact-finding going on, there will be a stage of saturation. It's good that only Neil obtains the FOI info and others approach the various officers but we should ensure we only have one person asking the questions otherwide the various officers are going to be inundated with requests and we will not obtain much more han a staock answer.

Can I suggest that after the meeting tomorrow, there is a further meetign to co-ordinate who is to approach which office i.e. person a approaches the council, person b approaches the college, person c speaks to Andrew Stunell, Tesco  etc,. There will be a danger that people we would natuarally have onside end up getting peeved off with the whole thing.

Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: Catwoman on July 26, 2011, 05:07:35 PM

Sounds like a good plan to me ...

Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: NeilCorrie on July 26, 2011, 07:44:53 PM

Added : Andrew Hubert contact details, leaflet campaign details, example letter, council obligations, improved formatting.  Anyone feel free to edit further as needed.

Overview

• Cheadle+Marple college (CAMSFC) are investigating the sale of their Hibbert Lane campus. See CAMSFC Estates Committee minutes 17th June 2010, point 12. (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/Minutes%20of%20meetings/Estates%2017_06_10m%20amended%20F&G%2001_12_10.pdf)
• Councillor Sue Ingham (Chair of Marple Area Committee) confirmed on Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college do intend to sell the site, that the land is designated for residential use only and that the councillors have requested a meeting with the college.
• Tesco have a record of buying land prior to getting planning permission and leaving it vacant/abandoned until local authority eventually relinquishes, see Prestatyn situation (http://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/98204/tesco-green-light-for-prestatyn.aspx) and associated Facebook campaign page (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=63674749752&v=wall).
• Paul Lawrence, Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council confirmed during w/c Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college want to raise £10-£12m by selling the Hibbert Lane campus.
• An initial meeting of concerned business owners and residents was held on Friday 22nd July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013#msg16013).
• 2 Freedom of Information (FOI) requests have been submitted to the college
  • covenants on the land 25th July 2011 : answered, see details here (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg#incoming-196517)
  • planning correspondence 25th July 2011 : not answered due to commercial sensitivity (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/building_of_supermarket_on_exist#incoming-196518).

• 3 FOI requests have been submitted to Stockport council
  • meetings between CAMSFC and Stockport Council (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tesco_or_sainsburys_buying_up_co)
  • planning correspondence (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/supermarket_plans_in_marple_on_e)
  • convenants on the land (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/college_site_and_historic_owners).

• 1 FOI request has been submitted to Tesco
  • planning correspondence and the change in land usage from residential to commercial (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/marple_planning).

• Forum member Miss Marple has scheduled a meeting with CAMSFC management and local press w/c Monday 25th July. More info tba.
• Area Committe meeting at Marple Library, Memorial Park, Marple on Wednesday 27th July 6pm (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?MId=324).  Open meeting, so public can (and are encouraged to) attend. MP and councillors will be available to respond to questions.  See earlier posting regarding format of meeting and use of question cards.
• CAMSFC management are doing a press release w/c Monday 25th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013;topicseen#msg16013).
• Marple Business forum are meeting on tba to discuss.
• As of Tuesday 26th July, 2,500 leaflets (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16122#msg16122) outlining the proposed development and associated implications have been distributed.
• An example objection letter/email suitable for editing and distributing to councillors has been posted on the Marple forum (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16125#msg16125).
• Stockport Council have obligations (via the covenant (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg#incoming-196517)) to
  
  • use parts of the Hibbert Lane site for purposes of providing adult education
  • provide a leisure centre on the site
  • provide a youth club on the site.

Contact details

• Local councillor acting as governor on the college board is Margaret McLay (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/MMY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address cllr.margaret.mclay@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 449 9598 (http://margaretmclay.mycouncillor.org.uk/).
• Local MP is Andrew Stunell, email address enquiries@andrewstunell.org.uk (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact), phone number 0161 406 7070 (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact).
• CAMSFC contact for queries is Andrew Hubert, email address andrew.hubert@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
• CAMSFC principal is Christina Cassidy (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/CCY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address info@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
• Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council is  Paul Lawrence (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=660), email address paul.lawrence@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 474 4949

Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: NeilCorrie on July 26, 2011, 10:34:52 PM

Added : Leaflet link - thanks Belle

Overview

• Cheadle+Marple college (CAMSFC) are investigating the sale of their Hibbert Lane campus. See CAMSFC Estates Committee minutes 17th June 2010, point 12. (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/Minutes%20of%20meetings/Estates%2017_06_10m%20amended%20F&G%2001_12_10.pdf)
• Councillor Sue Ingham (Chair of Marple Area Committee) confirmed on Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college do intend to sell the site, that the land is designated for residential use only and that the councillors have requested a meeting with the college.
• Tesco have a record of buying land prior to getting planning permission and leaving it vacant/abandoned until local authority eventually relinquishes, see Prestatyn situation (http://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/98204/tesco-green-light-for-prestatyn.aspx) and associated Facebook campaign page (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=63674749752&v=wall).
• Paul Lawrence, Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council confirmed during w/c Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college want to raise £10-£12m by selling the Hibbert Lane campus.
• An initial meeting of concerned business owners and residents was held on Friday 22nd July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013#msg16013).
• 2 Freedom of Information (FOI) requests have been submitted to the college
  • covenants on the land 25th July 2011 : answered, see details here (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg#incoming-196517)
  • planning correspondence 25th July 2011 : not answered due to commercial sensitivity (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/building_of_supermarket_on_exist#incoming-196518).

• 3 FOI requests have been submitted to Stockport council
  • meetings between CAMSFC and Stockport Council (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tesco_or_sainsburys_buying_up_co)
  • planning correspondence (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/supermarket_plans_in_marple_on_e)
  • convenants on the land (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/college_site_and_historic_owners).

• 1 FOI request has been submitted to Tesco
  • planning correspondence and the change in land usage from residential to commercial (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/marple_planning).

• Forum member Miss Marple has scheduled a meeting with CAMSFC management and local press w/c Monday 25th July. More info tba.
• Area Committe meeting at Marple Library, Memorial Park, Marple on Wednesday 27th July 6pm (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?MId=324).  Open meeting, so public can (and are encouraged to) attend. MP and councillors will be available to respond to questions.  See earlier posting regarding format of meeting and use of question cards.
• CAMSFC management are doing a press release w/c Monday 25th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013;topicseen#msg16013).
• Marple Business forum are meeting on tba to discuss.
• As of Tuesday 26th July, 2,500 leaflets (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16122#msg16122) outlining the proposed development and associated implications have been distributed. Click here to view (http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9190/flyery.jpg)
• An example objection letter/email suitable for editing and distributing to councillors has been posted on the Marple forum (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16125#msg16125).
• Stockport Council have obligations (via the covenant (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg#incoming-196517)) to
  
  • use parts of the Hibbert Lane site for purposes of providing adult education
  • provide a leisure centre on the site
  • provide a youth club on the site.

Contact details

• Local councillor acting as governor on the college board is Margaret McLay (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/MMY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address cllr.margaret.mclay@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 449 9598 (http://margaretmclay.mycouncillor.org.uk/).
• Local MP is Andrew Stunell, email address enquiries@andrewstunell.org.uk (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact), phone number 0161 406 7070 (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact).
• CAMSFC contact for queries is Andrew Hubert, email address andrew.hubert@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
• CAMSFC principal is Christina Cassidy (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/CCY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address info@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
• Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council is  Paul Lawrence (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=660), email address paul.lawrence@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 474 4949

Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: NeilCorrie on July 27, 2011, 10:24:44 PM

Added : FOI for noise/traffic/retail impact
Updated : today's Area Committee meeting, today's CAMSFC meeting

Overview

• Cheadle+Marple college (CAMSFC) are investigating the sale of their Hibbert Lane campus. See CAMSFC Estates Committee minutes 17th June 2010, point 12. (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/Minutes%20of%20meetings/Estates%2017_06_10m%20amended%20F&G%2001_12_10.pdf)
• Councillor Sue Ingham (Chair of Marple Area Committee) confirmed on Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college do intend to sell the site, that the land is designated for residential use only and that the councillors have requested a meeting with the college.
• Tesco have a record of buying land prior to getting planning permission and leaving it vacant/abandoned until local authority eventually relinquishes, see Prestatyn situation (http://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/98204/tesco-green-light-for-prestatyn.aspx) and associated Facebook campaign page (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=63674749752&v=wall).
• Paul Lawrence, Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council confirmed during w/c Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college want to raise £10-£12m by selling the Hibbert Lane campus.
• An initial meeting of concerned business owners and residents was held on Friday 22nd July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013#msg16013).
• 2 Freedom of Information (FOI) requests have been submitted to the college
  • covenants on the land 25th July 2011 : answered, see details here (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg#incoming-196517)
  • planning correspondence 25th July 2011 : not answered due to commercial sensitivity (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/building_of_supermarket_on_exist#incoming-196518).

• 4 FOI requests have been submitted to Stockport council
  • meetings between CAMSFC and Stockport Council (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tesco_or_sainsburys_buying_up_co)
  • planning correspondence (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/supermarket_plans_in_marple_on_e)
  • convenants on the land (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/college_site_and_historic_owners).
  • details of retail/traffic/noise impact reports (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/impact_assessment_request)

• 1 FOI request has been submitted to Tesco
  • planning correspondence and the change in land usage from residential to commercial (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/marple_planning).

• Marple In Action representatives from this forum met with CAMSFC management (Christina Cassidy and Andrew Hubert) on Wednesday 27th July, key points:
  • Offers from two different supermarkets being considered by the college.
  • Contract to be signed in October, following College governors meeting.
  • Supermarkets aware that it is retail only per Council guidelines but believe they will be able to develop supermarket there nevertheless

• Area Committe meeting at Marple Senior Citizens Hall, Memorial Park (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?MId=324), Marple on Wednesday 27th July 6pm  MP Andrew Stunnell was not able to attend.  Councillors and hundreds of local residents were in attendence, so many that meeting had to be held in the park itself.
• CAMSFC management are doing a press release w/c Monday 25th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013;topicseen#msg16013).
• Marple Business forum are meeting on tba to discuss.
• As of Tuesday 26th July, 2,500 leaflets (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16122#msg16122) outlining the proposed development and associated implications have been distributed. Click here to view (http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9190/flyery.jpg)
• An example objection letter/email suitable for editing and distributing to councillors has been posted on the Marple forum (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16125#msg16125).
• Stockport Council have obligations (via the covenant (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg#incoming-196517)) to
  
  • use parts of the Hibbert Lane site for purposes of providing adult education
  • provide a leisure centre on the site
  • provide a youth club on the site.

Contact details

• Local councillor acting as governor on the college board is Margaret McLay (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/MMY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address cllr.margaret.mclay@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 449 9598 (http://margaretmclay.mycouncillor.org.uk/).
• Local MP is Andrew Stunell, email address enquiries@andrewstunell.org.uk (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact), phone number 0161 406 7070 (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact).
• CAMSFC contact for queries is Andrew Hubert, email address andrew.hubert@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
• CAMSFC principal is Christina Cassidy (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/CCY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address info@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
• Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council is  Paul Lawrence (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=660), email address paul.lawrence@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 474 4949

Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: NeilCorrie on July 27, 2011, 10:40:46 PM

Added : FOI for CAMSFC governor list (list on their site is wrong)
Updated : reference to councillor governor

Overview

• Cheadle+Marple college (CAMSFC) are investigating the sale of their Hibbert Lane campus. See CAMSFC Estates Committee minutes 17th June 2010, point 12. (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/Minutes%20of%20meetings/Estates%2017_06_10m%20amended%20F&G%2001_12_10.pdf)
• Councillor Sue Ingham (Chair of Marple Area Committee) confirmed on Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college do intend to sell the site, that the land is designated for residential use only and that the councillors have requested a meeting with the college.
• Tesco have a record of buying land prior to getting planning permission and leaving it vacant/abandoned until local authority eventually relinquishes, see Prestatyn situation (http://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/98204/tesco-green-light-for-prestatyn.aspx) and associated Facebook campaign page (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=63674749752&v=wall).
• Paul Lawrence, Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council confirmed during w/c Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college want to raise £10-£12m by selling the Hibbert Lane campus.
• An initial meeting of concerned business owners and residents was held on Friday 22nd July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013#msg16013).
• 3 Freedom of Information (FOI) requests have been submitted to the college
  • covenants on the land 25th July 2011 : answered, see details here (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg#incoming-196517)
  • planning correspondence 25th July 2011 : not answered due to commercial sensitivity (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/building_of_supermarket_on_exist#incoming-196518)
  • accurate list of current governors (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/current_governors)

• 4 FOI requests have been submitted to Stockport council
  • meetings between CAMSFC and Stockport Council (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tesco_or_sainsburys_buying_up_co)
  • planning correspondence (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/supermarket_plans_in_marple_on_e)
  • convenants on the land (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/college_site_and_historic_owners)
  • details of retail/traffic/noise impact reports (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/impact_assessment_request)

• 1 FOI request has been submitted to Tesco
  • planning correspondence and the change in land usage from residential to commercial (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/marple_planning)

• Marple In Action representatives from this forum met with CAMSFC management (Christina Cassidy and Andrew Hubert) on Wednesday 27th July, key points:
  • Offers from two different supermarkets being considered by the college.
  • Contract to be signed in October, following College governors meeting.
  • Supermarkets aware that it is retail only per Council guidelines but believe they will be able to develop supermarket there nevertheless

• Area Committe meeting at Marple Senior Citizens Hall, Memorial Park (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?MId=324), Marple on Wednesday 27th July 6pm  MP Andrew Stunnell was not able to attend.  Councillors and hundreds of local residents were in attendence, so many that meeting had to be held in the park itself.
• CAMSFC management are doing a press release w/c Monday 25th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013;topicseen#msg16013).
• Marple Business forum are meeting on tba to discuss.
• As of Tuesday 26th July, 2,500 leaflets (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16122#msg16122) outlining the proposed development and associated implications have been distributed. Click here to view (http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9190/flyery.jpg)
• An example objection letter/email suitable for editing and distributing to councillors has been posted on the Marple forum (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16125#msg16125).
• Stockport Council have obligations (via the covenant (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg#incoming-196517)) to
  
  • use parts of the Hibbert Lane site for purposes of providing adult education
  • provide a leisure centre on the site
  • provide a youth club on the site.

Contact details

• Local councillor acting as governor on the college board was Margaret McLay (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/MMY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address cllr.margaret.mclay@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 449 9598 (http://margaretmclay.mycouncillor.org.uk/) but appears she is no longer a governor despite the details published on CAMSFC website (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/cmsfc-about.asp?AboID=44)
• Local MP is Andrew Stunell, email address enquiries@andrewstunell.org.uk (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact), phone number 0161 406 7070 (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact).
• CAMSFC contact for queries is Andrew Hubert, email address andrew.hubert@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
• CAMSFC principal is Christina Cassidy (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/CCY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address info@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
• Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council is  Paul Lawrence (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=660), email address paul.lawrence@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 474 4949

Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: acoustician on July 28, 2011, 12:13:25 PM

Neil, good work. Im an acoustic consultant, and if you find any information relating to noise please let me have a look at it for comment/translation into english. :)

Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: NeilCorrie on July 29, 2011, 08:24:50 PM

Added : FOI for Stockport Sports Trust
Updated : FOI for accurate list of CAMSFC governors
Updated : FOI concerning covenants - still waiting for Buxton+Cheadle details
Updated : area committe meeting covered in Stockport Express
Updated : "off the record" meeting between CAMSFC and Council

Overview

• Cheadle+Marple college (CAMSFC) are investigating the sale of their Hibbert Lane campus. See CAMSFC Estates Committee minutes 17th June 2010, point 12. (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/Minutes%20of%20meetings/Estates%2017_06_10m%20amended%20F&G%2001_12_10.pdf)
• Councillor Sue Ingham (Chair of Marple Area Committee) confirmed on Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college do intend to sell the site, that the land is designated for residential use only and that the councillors have requested a meeting with the college.
• Tesco have a record of buying land prior to getting planning permission and leaving it vacant/abandoned until local authority eventually relinquishes, see Prestatyn situation (http://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/98204/tesco-green-light-for-prestatyn.aspx) and associated Facebook campaign page (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=63674749752&v=wall).
• Paul Lawrence, Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council confirmed during w/c Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college want to raise £10-£12m by selling the Hibbert Lane campus.
• An initial meeting of concerned business owners and residents was held on Friday 22nd July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013#msg16013).
• 3 Freedom of Information (FOI) requests have been submitted to the college
  • covenants on the land 25th July 2011 : partially answered, see details here (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg#outgoing-143240)
  • planning correspondence 29th July 2011 : not answered due to commercial sensitivity (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/building_of_supermarket_on_exist#incoming-196518)
  • accurate list of current governors 29th July 2011 : answered, see details here (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/current_governors)

• 4 FOI requests have been submitted to Stockport council
  • meetings between CAMSFC and Stockport Council (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tesco_or_sainsburys_buying_up_co) 29th July 2011 : answered (held, but off the record, no minutes etc, see details here) (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tesco_or_sainsburys_buying_up_co#incoming-197005)
  • planning correspondence (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/supermarket_plans_in_marple_on_e)
  • convenants on the land (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/college_site_and_historic_owners)
  • details of retail/traffic/noise impact reports (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/impact_assessment_request)

• 1 FOI request has been submitted to Tesco
  • planning correspondence and the change in land usage from residential to commercial (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/marple_planning)

• 1 FOI request has been submitted to Stockport Sports Trust (who provide sports facilities to the community via college land)
  • Loss of sport facilities in central marple (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/loss_of_sport_facilities_in_cent)

• Marple In Action representatives from this forum met with CAMSFC management (Christina Cassidy and Andrew Hubert) on Wednesday 27th July, key points:
  • Offers from two different supermarkets being considered by the college.
  • Contract to be signed in October, following College governors meeting.
  • Supermarkets aware that it is retail only per Council guidelines but believe they will be able to develop supermarket there nevertheless

• Area Committe meeting at Marple Senior Citizens Hall, Memorial Park (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?MId=324), Marple on Wednesday 27th July 6pm  MP Andrew Stunnell was not able to attend.  Councillors and hundreds of local residents were in attendence, so many that meeting had to be held in the park itself.  See article in local paper (http://menmedia.co.uk/stockportexpress/news/s/1454010_supermarket-land-row-meeting-moved-to-park-after-room-proves-too-small-as-hundreds-attend)
• CAMSFC management are doing a press release w/c Monday 25th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013;topicseen#msg16013).
• Marple Business forum are meeting on tba to discuss.
• As of Tuesday 26th July, 2,500 leaflets (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16122#msg16122) outlining the proposed development and associated implications have been distributed. Click here to view (http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9190/flyery.jpg)
• An example objection letter/email suitable for editing and distributing to councillors has been posted on the Marple forum (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16125#msg16125).
• Stockport Council have obligations (via the covenant (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg#incoming-196517)) to
  
  • use parts of the Hibbert Lane site for purposes of providing adult education
  • provide a leisure centre on the site
  • provide a youth club on the site.

Contact details

• Local (Compstall) governor on the college board is Margaret McLay (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/MMY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address unknown, phone number 0161 449 9598 (http://margaretmclay.mycouncillor.org.uk/)
• Local MP is Andrew Stunell, email address enquiries@andrewstunell.org.uk (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact), phone number 0161 406 7070 (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact).
• CAMSFC contact for queries is Andrew Hubert, email address andrew.hubert@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
• CAMSFC principal is Christina Cassidy (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/CCY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address info@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
• Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council is  Paul Lawrence (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=660), email address paul.lawrence@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 474 4949

Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: NeilCorrie on July 29, 2011, 08:52:39 PM

Updated : Committee meeting, with youtube links

Overview

• Cheadle+Marple college (CAMSFC) are investigating the sale of their Hibbert Lane campus. See CAMSFC Estates Committee minutes 17th June 2010, point 12. (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/Minutes%20of%20meetings/Estates%2017_06_10m%20amended%20F&G%2001_12_10.pdf)
• Councillor Sue Ingham (Chair of Marple Area Committee) confirmed on Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college do intend to sell the site, that the land is designated for residential use only and that the councillors have requested a meeting with the college.
• Tesco have a record of buying land prior to getting planning permission and leaving it vacant/abandoned until local authority eventually relinquishes, see Prestatyn situation (http://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/98204/tesco-green-light-for-prestatyn.aspx) and associated Facebook campaign page (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=63674749752&v=wall).
• Paul Lawrence, Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council confirmed during w/c Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college want to raise £10-£12m by selling the Hibbert Lane campus.
• An initial meeting of concerned business owners and residents was held on Friday 22nd July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013#msg16013).
• 3 Freedom of Information (FOI) requests have been submitted to the college
  • covenants on the land 25th July 2011 : partially answered, see details here (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg#outgoing-143240)
  • planning correspondence 29th July 2011 : not answered due to commercial sensitivity (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/building_of_supermarket_on_exist#incoming-196518)
  • accurate list of current governors 29th July 2011 : answered, see details here (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/current_governors)

• 4 FOI requests have been submitted to Stockport council
  • meetings between CAMSFC and Stockport Council (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tesco_or_sainsburys_buying_up_co) 29th July 2011 : answered (held, but off the record, no minutes etc, see details here) (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tesco_or_sainsburys_buying_up_co#incoming-197005)
  • planning correspondence (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/supermarket_plans_in_marple_on_e)
  • convenants on the land (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/college_site_and_historic_owners)
  • details of retail/traffic/noise impact reports (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/impact_assessment_request)

• 1 FOI request has been submitted to Tesco
  • planning correspondence and the change in land usage from residential to commercial (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/marple_planning)

• 1 FOI request has been submitted to Stockport Sports Trust (who provide sports facilities to the community via college land)
  • Loss of sport facilities in central marple (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/loss_of_sport_facilities_in_cent)

• Marple In Action representatives from this forum met with CAMSFC management (Christina Cassidy and Andrew Hubert) on Wednesday 27th July, key points:
  • Offers from two different supermarkets being considered by the college.
  • Contract to be signed in October, following College governors meeting.
  • Supermarkets aware that it is retail only per Council guidelines but believe they will be able to develop supermarket there nevertheless

• Area Committe meeting at Marple Senior Citizens Hall, Memorial Park (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?MId=324), Marple on Wednesday 27th July 6pm  MP Andrew Stunnell was not able to attend.  Councillors and hundreds of local residents were in attendence, so many that meeting had to be held in the park itself.  See article in local paper (http://menmedia.co.uk/stockportexpress/news/s/1454010_supermarket-land-row-meeting-moved-to-park-after-room-proves-too-small-as-hundreds-attend) and video clips below
  • Council Meeting Held in Marple Memorial Park - MEN Exclusive #1 (http://www.youtube.com/user/manchesternews#p/u/8/X4lqCodS_fk)
  • Council Meeting Held in Marple Memorial Park - MEN Exclusive #2 (http://www.youtube.com/user/manchesternews#p/u/9/XGf4Atoy4HA)
  • Council Meeting Held in Marple Memorial Park - MEN Exclusive #3 (http://www.youtube.com/user/manchesternews#p/u/10/uhZTtgj4tAo)
  • Marple Residents Move to Memorial Park for Meeting - MEN Exclusive #1 (http://www.youtube.com/user/manchesternews#p/u/11/pbr8XBPk5k0)
  • Marple Residents and Councillors Move to Marple Memorial Park - MEN Exclusive #2 (http://www.youtube.com/user/manchesternews#p/u/12/-8y9X2lxJOA)
  
  
  
  
  • CAMSFC management are doing a press release w/c Monday 25th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013;topicseen#msg16013).
  • Marple Business forum are meeting on tba to discuss.
  • As of Tuesday 26th July, 2,500 leaflets (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16122#msg16122) outlining the proposed development and associated implications have been distributed. Click here to view (http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9190/flyery.jpg)
  • An example objection letter/email suitable for editing and distributing to councillors has been posted on the Marple forum (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16125#msg16125).
  • Stockport Council have obligations (via the covenant (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg#incoming-196517)) to
    
    • use parts of the Hibbert Lane site for purposes of providing adult education
    • provide a leisure centre on the site
    • provide a youth club on the site.
  
  
  Contact details
  
  • Local (Compstall) governor on the college board is Margaret McLay (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/MMY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address unknown, phone number 0161 449 9598 (http://margaretmclay.mycouncillor.org.uk/)
  • Local MP is Andrew Stunell, email address enquiries@andrewstunell.org.uk (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact), phone number 0161 406 7070 (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact).
  • CAMSFC contact for queries is Andrew Hubert, email address andrew.hubert@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
  • CAMSFC principal is Christina Cassidy (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/CCY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address info@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
  • Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council is  Paul Lawrence (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=660), email address paul.lawrence@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 474 4949

Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: NeilCorrie on July 30, 2011, 10:32:02 PM

Added : New FOI for college concerning finances

Overview

• Cheadle+Marple college (CAMSFC) are investigating the sale of their Hibbert Lane campus. See CAMSFC Estates Committee minutes 17th June 2010, point 12. (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/Minutes%20of%20meetings/Estates%2017_06_10m%20amended%20F&G%2001_12_10.pdf)
• Councillor Sue Ingham (Chair of Marple Area Committee) confirmed on Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college do intend to sell the site, that the land is designated for residential use only and that the councillors have requested a meeting with the college.
• Tesco have a record of buying land prior to getting planning permission and leaving it vacant/abandoned until local authority eventually relinquishes, see Prestatyn situation (http://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/98204/tesco-green-light-for-prestatyn.aspx) and associated Facebook campaign page (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=63674749752&v=wall).
• Paul Lawrence, Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council confirmed during w/c Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college want to raise £10-£12m by selling the Hibbert Lane campus.
• An initial meeting of concerned business owners and residents was held on Friday 22nd July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013#msg16013).
• 4 Freedom of Information (FOI) requests have been submitted to the college
  • covenants on the land 25th July 2011 : partially answered, see details here (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg#outgoing-143240)
  • planning correspondence 29th July 2011 : not answered due to commercial sensitivity (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/building_of_supermarket_on_exist#incoming-196518)
  • accurate list of current governors 29th July 2011 : answered, see details here (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/current_governors)
  • finances (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/salary_expenditure_and_external)

• 4 FOI requests have been submitted to Stockport council
  • meetings between CAMSFC and Stockport Council (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tesco_or_sainsburys_buying_up_co) 29th July 2011 : answered (held, but off the record, no minutes etc, see details here) (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tesco_or_sainsburys_buying_up_co#incoming-197005)
  • planning correspondence (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/supermarket_plans_in_marple_on_e)
  • convenants on the land (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/college_site_and_historic_owners)
  • details of retail/traffic/noise impact reports (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/impact_assessment_request)

• 1 FOI request has been submitted to Tesco
  • planning correspondence and the change in land usage from residential to commercial (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/marple_planning)

• 1 FOI request has been submitted to Stockport Sports Trust (who provide sports facilities to the community via college land)
  • Loss of sport facilities in central marple (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/loss_of_sport_facilities_in_cent)

• Marple In Action representatives from this forum met with CAMSFC management (Christina Cassidy and Andrew Hubert) on Wednesday 27th July, key points:
  • Offers from two different supermarkets being considered by the college.
  • Contract to be signed in October, following College governors meeting.
  • Supermarkets aware that it is retail only per Council guidelines but believe they will be able to develop supermarket there nevertheless

• Area Committe meeting at Marple Senior Citizens Hall, Memorial Park (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?MId=324), Marple on Wednesday 27th July 6pm  MP Andrew Stunnell was not able to attend.  Councillors and hundreds of local residents were in attendence, so many that meeting had to be held in the park itself.  See article in local paper (http://menmedia.co.uk/stockportexpress/news/s/1454010_supermarket-land-row-meeting-moved-to-park-after-room-proves-too-small-as-hundreds-attend) and video clips below
  • Council Meeting Held in Marple Memorial Park - MEN Exclusive #1 (http://www.youtube.com/user/manchesternews#p/u/8/X4lqCodS_fk)
  • Council Meeting Held in Marple Memorial Park - MEN Exclusive #2 (http://www.youtube.com/user/manchesternews#p/u/9/XGf4Atoy4HA)
  • Council Meeting Held in Marple Memorial Park - MEN Exclusive #3 (http://www.youtube.com/user/manchesternews#p/u/10/uhZTtgj4tAo)
  • Marple Residents Move to Memorial Park for Meeting - MEN Exclusive #1 (http://www.youtube.com/user/manchesternews#p/u/11/pbr8XBPk5k0)
  • Marple Residents and Councillors Move to Marple Memorial Park - MEN Exclusive #2 (http://www.youtube.com/user/manchesternews#p/u/12/-8y9X2lxJOA)
  • CAMSFC management are doing a press release w/c Monday 25th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013;topicseen#msg16013).
  • Marple Business forum are meeting on tba to discuss.
  • As of Tuesday 26th July, 2,500 leaflets (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16122#msg16122) outlining the proposed development and associated implications have been distributed. Click here to view (http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9190/flyery.jpg)
  • An example objection letter/email suitable for editing and distributing to councillors has been posted on the Marple forum (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16125#msg16125).
  • Stockport Council have obligations (via the covenant (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg#incoming-196517)) to
    
    • use parts of the Hibbert Lane site for purposes of providing adult education
    • provide a leisure centre on the site
    • provide a youth club on the site.
  
  
  Contact details
  
  • Local (Compstall) governor on the college board is Margaret McLay (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/MMY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address unknown, phone number 0161 449 9598 (http://margaretmclay.mycouncillor.org.uk/)
  • Local MP is Andrew Stunell, email address enquiries@andrewstunell.org.uk (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact), phone number 0161 406 7070 (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact).
  • CAMSFC contact for queries is Andrew Hubert, email address andrew.hubert@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
  • CAMSFC principal is Christina Cassidy (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/CCY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address info@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
  • Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council is  Paul Lawrence (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=660), email address paul.lawrence@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 474 4949

Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: NeilCorrie on July 30, 2011, 10:41:39 PM

Added : Maria's FOI for concerning Buxton Lane development costs

Overview

• Cheadle+Marple college (CAMSFC) are investigating the sale of their Hibbert Lane campus. See CAMSFC Estates Committee minutes 17th June 2010, point 12. (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/Minutes%20of%20meetings/Estates%2017_06_10m%20amended%20F&G%2001_12_10.pdf)
• Councillor Sue Ingham (Chair of Marple Area Committee) confirmed on Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college do intend to sell the site, that the land is designated for residential use only and that the councillors have requested a meeting with the college.
• Tesco have a record of buying land prior to getting planning permission and leaving it vacant/abandoned until local authority eventually relinquishes, see Prestatyn situation (http://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/98204/tesco-green-light-for-prestatyn.aspx) and associated Facebook campaign page (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=63674749752&v=wall).
• Paul Lawrence, Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council confirmed during w/c Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college want to raise £10-£12m by selling the Hibbert Lane campus.
• An initial meeting of concerned business owners and residents was held on Friday 22nd July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013#msg16013).
• 4 Freedom of Information (FOI) requests have been submitted to the college
  • covenants on the land 25th July 2011 : partially answered, see details here (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg#outgoing-143240)
  • planning correspondence 29th July 2011 : not answered due to commercial sensitivity (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/building_of_supermarket_on_exist#incoming-196518)
  • accurate list of current governors 29th July 2011 : answered, see details here (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/current_governors)
  • finances (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/salary_expenditure_and_external)

• 5 FOI requests have been submitted to Stockport council
  • meetings between CAMSFC and Stockport Council (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tesco_or_sainsburys_buying_up_co) 29th July 2011 : answered (held, but off the record, no minutes etc, see details here) (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tesco_or_sainsburys_buying_up_co#incoming-197005)
  • planning correspondence (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/supermarket_plans_in_marple_on_e)
  • convenants on the land (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/college_site_and_historic_owners)
  • details of retail/traffic/noise impact reports (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/impact_assessment_request)
  • Buxton Lane development costs (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_cost_of_devloping_buxton_lan)

• 1 FOI request has been submitted to Tesco
  • planning correspondence and the change in land usage from residential to commercial (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/marple_planning)

• 1 FOI request has been submitted to Stockport Sports Trust (who provide sports facilities to the community via college land)
  • Loss of sport facilities in central marple (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/loss_of_sport_facilities_in_cent)

• Marple In Action representatives from this forum met with CAMSFC management (Christina Cassidy and Andrew Hubert) on Wednesday 27th July, key points:
  • Offers from two different supermarkets being considered by the college.
  • Contract to be signed in October, following College governors meeting.
  • Supermarkets aware that it is retail only per Council guidelines but believe they will be able to develop supermarket there nevertheless

• Area Committe meeting at Marple Senior Citizens Hall, Memorial Park (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?MId=324), Marple on Wednesday 27th July 6pm  MP Andrew Stunnell was not able to attend.  Councillors and hundreds of local residents were in attendence, so many that meeting had to be held in the park itself.  See article in local paper (http://menmedia.co.uk/stockportexpress/news/s/1454010_supermarket-land-row-meeting-moved-to-park-after-room-proves-too-small-as-hundreds-attend) and video clips below
  • Council Meeting Held in Marple Memorial Park - MEN Exclusive #1 (http://www.youtube.com/user/manchesternews#p/u/8/X4lqCodS_fk)
  • Council Meeting Held in Marple Memorial Park - MEN Exclusive #2 (http://www.youtube.com/user/manchesternews#p/u/9/XGf4Atoy4HA)
  • Council Meeting Held in Marple Memorial Park - MEN Exclusive #3 (http://www.youtube.com/user/manchesternews#p/u/10/uhZTtgj4tAo)
  • Marple Residents Move to Memorial Park for Meeting - MEN Exclusive #1 (http://www.youtube.com/user/manchesternews#p/u/11/pbr8XBPk5k0)
  • Marple Residents and Councillors Move to Marple Memorial Park - MEN Exclusive #2 (http://www.youtube.com/user/manchesternews#p/u/12/-8y9X2lxJOA)
  • CAMSFC management are doing a press release w/c Monday 25th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013;topicseen#msg16013).
  • Marple Business forum are meeting on tba to discuss.
  • As of Tuesday 26th July, 2,500 leaflets (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16122#msg16122) outlining the proposed development and associated implications have been distributed. Click here to view (http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9190/flyery.jpg)
  • An example objection letter/email suitable for editing and distributing to councillors has been posted on the Marple forum (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16125#msg16125).
  • Stockport Council have obligations (via the covenant (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg#incoming-196517)) to
    
    • use parts of the Hibbert Lane site for purposes of providing adult education
    • provide a leisure centre on the site
    • provide a youth club on the site.
  
  
  Contact details
  
  • Local (Compstall) governor on the college board is Margaret McLay (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/MMY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address unknown, phone number 0161 449 9598 (http://margaretmclay.mycouncillor.org.uk/)
  • Local MP is Andrew Stunell, email address enquiries@andrewstunell.org.uk (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact), phone number 0161 406 7070 (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact).
  • CAMSFC contact for queries is Andrew Hubert, email address andrew.hubert@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
  • CAMSFC principal is Christina Cassidy (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/CCY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address info@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
  • Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council is  Paul Lawrence (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=660), email address paul.lawrence@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 474 4949

Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: NeilCorrie on July 31, 2011, 04:19:24 PM

Added : Side-by-side comparison of Tesco sites + Hibbert Lane (thanks Smithy166)

Overview

• Cheadle+Marple college (CAMSFC) are investigating the sale of their Hibbert Lane campus. See CAMSFC Estates Committee minutes 17th June 2010, point 12. (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/Minutes%20of%20meetings/Estates%2017_06_10m%20amended%20F&G%2001_12_10.pdf)
• In order to get an impression of prospective supermarket size, an aerial view of Tesco Glossop, Tesco Stockport Portwood and Hibbert Lane site can be seen here here (http://www.autism-is-us.com/images/com.jpg)
• Councillor Sue Ingham (Chair of Marple Area Committee) confirmed on Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college do intend to sell the site, that the land is designated for residential use only and that the councillors have requested a meeting with the college.
• Tesco have a record of buying land prior to getting planning permission and leaving it vacant/abandoned until local authority eventually relinquishes, see Prestatyn situation (http://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/98204/tesco-green-light-for-prestatyn.aspx) and associated Facebook campaign page (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=63674749752&v=wall).
• Paul Lawrence, Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council confirmed during w/c Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college want to raise £10-£12m by selling the Hibbert Lane campus.
• An initial meeting of concerned business owners and residents was held on Friday 22nd July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013#msg16013).
• 4 Freedom of Information (FOI) requests have been submitted to the college
  • covenants on the land 25th July 2011 : partially answered, see details here (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg#outgoing-143240)
  • planning correspondence 29th July 2011 : not answered due to commercial sensitivity (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/building_of_supermarket_on_exist#incoming-196518)
  • accurate list of current governors 29th July 2011 : answered, see details here (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/current_governors)
  • finances (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/salary_expenditure_and_external)

• 5 FOI requests have been submitted to Stockport council
  • meetings between CAMSFC and Stockport Council (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tesco_or_sainsburys_buying_up_co) 29th July 2011 : answered (held, but off the record, no minutes etc, see details here) (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tesco_or_sainsburys_buying_up_co#incoming-197005)
  • planning correspondence (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/supermarket_plans_in_marple_on_e)
  • convenants on the land (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/college_site_and_historic_owners)
  • details of retail/traffic/noise impact reports (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/impact_assessment_request)
  • Buxton Lane development costs (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_cost_of_devloping_buxton_lan)

• 1 FOI request has been submitted to Tesco
  • planning correspondence and the change in land usage from residential to commercial (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/marple_planning)

• 1 FOI request has been submitted to Stockport Sports Trust (who provide sports facilities to the community via college land)
  • Loss of sport facilities in central marple (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/loss_of_sport_facilities_in_cent)

• Marple In Action representatives from this forum met with CAMSFC management (Christina Cassidy and Andrew Hubert) on Wednesday 27th July, key points:
  • Offers from two different supermarkets being considered by the college.
  • Contract to be signed in October, following College governors meeting.
  • Supermarkets aware that it is retail only per Council guidelines but believe they will be able to develop supermarket there nevertheless

• Area Committe meeting at Marple Senior Citizens Hall, Memorial Park (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?MId=324), Marple on Wednesday 27th July 6pm  MP Andrew Stunnell was not able to attend.  Councillors and hundreds of local residents were in attendence, so many that meeting had to be held in the park itself.  See article in local paper (http://menmedia.co.uk/stockportexpress/news/s/1454010_supermarket-land-row-meeting-moved-to-park-after-room-proves-too-small-as-hundreds-attend) and video clips below
  • Council Meeting Held in Marple Memorial Park - MEN Exclusive #1 (http://www.youtube.com/user/manchesternews#p/u/8/X4lqCodS_fk)
  • Council Meeting Held in Marple Memorial Park - MEN Exclusive #2 (http://www.youtube.com/user/manchesternews#p/u/9/XGf4Atoy4HA)
  • Council Meeting Held in Marple Memorial Park - MEN Exclusive #3 (http://www.youtube.com/user/manchesternews#p/u/10/uhZTtgj4tAo)
  • Marple Residents Move to Memorial Park for Meeting - MEN Exclusive #1 (http://www.youtube.com/user/manchesternews#p/u/11/pbr8XBPk5k0)
  • Marple Residents and Councillors Move to Marple Memorial Park - MEN Exclusive #2 (http://www.youtube.com/user/manchesternews#p/u/12/-8y9X2lxJOA)
  • CAMSFC management are doing a press release w/c Monday 25th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013;topicseen#msg16013).
  • Marple Business forum are meeting on tba to discuss.
  • As of Tuesday 26th July, 2,500 leaflets (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16122#msg16122) outlining the proposed development and associated implications have been distributed. Click here to view (http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9190/flyery.jpg)
  • An example objection letter/email suitable for editing and distributing to councillors has been posted on the Marple forum (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16125#msg16125).
  • Stockport Council have obligations (via the covenant (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg#incoming-196517)) to
    
    • use parts of the Hibbert Lane site for purposes of providing adult education
    • provide a leisure centre on the site
    • provide a youth club on the site.
  
  
  Contact details
  
  • Local (Compstall) governor on the college board is Margaret McLay (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/MMY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address unknown, phone number 0161 449 9598 (http://margaretmclay.mycouncillor.org.uk/)
  • Local MP is Andrew Stunell, email address enquiries@andrewstunell.org.uk (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact), phone number 0161 406 7070 (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact).
  • CAMSFC contact for queries is Andrew Hubert, email address andrew.hubert@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
  • CAMSFC principal is Christina Cassidy (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/CCY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address info@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
  • Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council is  Paul Lawrence (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=660), email address paul.lawrence@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 474 4949

Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: NeilCorrie on July 31, 2011, 10:10:14 PM

Added : CAMSFC governor Stephen Downs resigned over the supermarket issue

Overview

• Cheadle+Marple college (CAMSFC) are investigating the sale of their Hibbert Lane campus. See CAMSFC Estates Committee minutes 17th June 2010, point 12. (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/Minutes%20of%20meetings/Estates%2017_06_10m%20amended%20F&G%2001_12_10.pdf)
• In order to get an impression of prospective supermarket size, an aerial view of Tesco Glossop, Tesco Stockport Portwood and Hibbert Lane site can be seen here here (http://www.autism-is-us.com/images/com.jpg)
• Councillor Sue Ingham (Chair of Marple Area Committee) confirmed on Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college do intend to sell the site, that the land is designated for residential use only and that the councillors have requested a meeting with the college.
• In July 2011, CAMSFC governor Stephen Downs, who is also a local resident, resigned his post of governor (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16429#msg16429) due to disagreement with college management concerning their plans for the supermarket.

• Tesco have a record of buying land prior to getting planning permission and leaving it vacant/abandoned until local authority eventually relinquishes, see Prestatyn situation (http://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/98204/tesco-green-light-for-prestatyn.aspx) and associated Facebook campaign page (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=63674749752&v=wall).
• Paul Lawrence, Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council confirmed during w/c Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college want to raise £10-£12m by selling the Hibbert Lane campus.
• An initial meeting of concerned business owners and residents was held on Friday 22nd July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013#msg16013).
• 4 Freedom of Information (FOI) requests have been submitted to the college
  • covenants on the land 25th July 2011 : partially answered, see details here (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg#outgoing-143240)
  • planning correspondence 29th July 2011 : not answered due to commercial sensitivity (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/building_of_supermarket_on_exist#incoming-196518)
  • accurate list of current governors 29th July 2011 : answered, see details here (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/current_governors)
  • finances (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/salary_expenditure_and_external)

• 5 FOI requests have been submitted to Stockport council
  • meetings between CAMSFC and Stockport Council (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tesco_or_sainsburys_buying_up_co) 29th July 2011 : answered (held, but off the record, no minutes etc, see details here) (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tesco_or_sainsburys_buying_up_co#incoming-197005)
  • planning correspondence (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/supermarket_plans_in_marple_on_e)
  • convenants on the land (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/college_site_and_historic_owners)
  • details of retail/traffic/noise impact reports (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/impact_assessment_request)
  • Buxton Lane development costs (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_cost_of_devloping_buxton_lan)

• 1 FOI request has been submitted to Tesco
  • planning correspondence and the change in land usage from residential to commercial (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/marple_planning)

• 1 FOI request has been submitted to Stockport Sports Trust (who provide sports facilities to the community via college land)
  • Loss of sport facilities in central marple (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/loss_of_sport_facilities_in_cent)

• Marple In Action representatives from this forum met with CAMSFC management (Christina Cassidy and Andrew Hubert) on Wednesday 27th July, key points:
  • Offers from two different supermarkets being considered by the college.
  • Contract to be signed in October, following College governors meeting.
  • Supermarkets aware that it is retail only per Council guidelines but believe they will be able to develop supermarket there nevertheless

• Area Committe meeting at Marple Senior Citizens Hall, Memorial Park (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?MId=324), Marple on Wednesday 27th July 6pm  MP Andrew Stunnell was not able to attend.  Councillors and hundreds of local residents were in attendence, so many that meeting had to be held in the park itself.  See article in local paper (http://menmedia.co.uk/stockportexpress/news/s/1454010_supermarket-land-row-meeting-moved-to-park-after-room-proves-too-small-as-hundreds-attend) and video clips below
  • Council Meeting Held in Marple Memorial Park - MEN Exclusive #1 (http://www.youtube.com/user/manchesternews#p/u/8/X4lqCodS_fk)
  • Council Meeting Held in Marple Memorial Park - MEN Exclusive #2 (http://www.youtube.com/user/manchesternews#p/u/9/XGf4Atoy4HA)
  • Council Meeting Held in Marple Memorial Park - MEN Exclusive #3 (http://www.youtube.com/user/manchesternews#p/u/10/uhZTtgj4tAo)
  • Marple Residents Move to Memorial Park for Meeting - MEN Exclusive #1 (http://www.youtube.com/user/manchesternews#p/u/11/pbr8XBPk5k0)
  • Marple Residents and Councillors Move to Marple Memorial Park - MEN Exclusive #2 (http://www.youtube.com/user/manchesternews#p/u/12/-8y9X2lxJOA)
  • CAMSFC management are doing a press release w/c Monday 25th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013;topicseen#msg16013).
  • Marple Business forum are meeting on tba to discuss.
  • As of Tuesday 26th July, 2,500 leaflets (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16122#msg16122) outlining the proposed development and associated implications have been distributed. Click here to view (http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9190/flyery.jpg)
  • An example objection letter/email suitable for editing and distributing to councillors has been posted on the Marple forum (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16125#msg16125).
  • Stockport Council have obligations (via the covenant (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg#incoming-196517)) to
    
    • use parts of the Hibbert Lane site for purposes of providing adult education
    • provide a leisure centre on the site
    • provide a youth club on the site.
  
  
  Contact details
  
  • Local (Compstall) governor on the college board is Margaret McLay (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/MMY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address unknown, phone number 0161 449 9598 (http://margaretmclay.mycouncillor.org.uk/)
  • Local MP is Andrew Stunell, email address enquiries@andrewstunell.org.uk (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact), phone number 0161 406 7070 (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact).
  • CAMSFC contact for queries is Andrew Hubert, email address andrew.hubert@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
  • CAMSFC principal is Christina Cassidy (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/CCY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address info@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
  • Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council is  Paul Lawrence (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=660), email address paul.lawrence@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 474 4949

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Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: Duke Fame on August 01, 2011, 10:45:21 AM

Can you list the known interested parties in the site?

Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: admin on August 01, 2011, 07:48:31 PM

Here is the official council policy towards the Hibbert Lane site passed onto me this evening by Cllr. Andrew Bispham. It is really a consolidation of what Paul Lawrence said during the Area Committee in the Park session:

Cheadle and Marple Sixth Form College Site at Marple

Briefing to Marple members: Paul Lawrence, Service Director, Place Development

We are aware that Cheadle and Marple Sixth Form College is looking to fund campus improvements, and one option is to sell its Hibbert Lane site.

We understand that the College has carried out some market testing to establish the potential value of the land.

This site is not specifically allocated for residential development, but it is within a predominantly residential area. The playing field areas are allocated as Local Open Space.

We have informed the College of the appropriate uses of the site. These include: residential, educational and community uses, and some leisure limited to existing levels of provision.  Current policy states that existing levels of open space should be maintained.  Local retail development (less than 200 sq. metres in area), may be acceptable, should the developer be able to demonstrate that there were no alternative and suitable sites within or closer to the centre.

We consider that in planning policy terms, larger scale retail development on this site, above 200 sq. metres, is not acceptable. Any retail schemes in Stockport, outside existing shopping areas, need to show that there are no possible alternative sites within or closer to the centre. In addition, an `impact assessment` would need to be carried out, to determine whether or not the development would affect the vitality and viability of existing centres.

There have been no direct discussions between the Council and retail developers about the site, nor have there been any discussions about existing or new leisure provision.

We understand that any covenant on the land would not prevent its future development.


Briefing Note given to Marple Councillors at meeting on Friday 22/7/2011 @ 12:00

Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: UHL on August 02, 2011, 04:43:16 PM

I am a resident of Upper Hibbert Lane and a Democratic Services Officer at a Local Authority for which I advise Planning Committees.  If I can be of any assitance please let me know.  I have not contacted my colleagues in Stockport yet regarding this application but would have thought as any non -residential development this would be a deviation from the existing UDP/Core Strategy, as such this decision would not be made by the Area Committee but at the Councils Planning & Highways Regulatory Committee.  The Area Committee would be consulted but not the decision maker.  I note with interest no Marple Members are currently appointed to the Regulatory Committee. 

Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: Miss Marple on August 02, 2011, 05:49:22 PM

Quote from: UHL on August 02, 2011, 04:43:16 PM

I am a resident of Upper Hibbert Lane and a Democratic Services Officer at a Local Authority for which I advise Planning Committees.  If I can be of any assistance please let me know.  I have not contacted my colleagues in Stockport yet regarding this application but would have thought as any non -residential development this would be a deviation from the existing UDP/Core Strategy, as such this decision would not be made by the Area Committee but at the Councils Planning & Highways Regulatory Committee.  The Area Committee would be consulted but not the decision maker.  I note with interest no Marple Members are currently appointed to the Regulatory Committee. 

How do we join the Regulatory Committee as I am sure one of our supporters would volunteer to become a member, what is it , what does it do, and when's the next one and have we any volunteers  ??? I would go but I don't think I could retain all the information at my age  ;). All advise and information about this is most welcomed   Thank you !

Title: Re: New thread - gathering facts re Marple supermarket
Post by: NeilCorrie on August 02, 2011, 11:23:24 PM

Added : CAMSFC statement
Added : councillor briefing note
Updated : Stockport Sports Trust FOI denied
Updated : College FOI re covenant
Updated : College FOI re planning correspondence
Updated : College FOI re governor list
Updated : Council FOI re covenant
Updated : Council FOI re impact assessments
Updated : Council FOI re Buxton Lane development costs
Updated : Stockport Sports Trust FOI re marple sports


Overview

• Cheadle+Marple college (CAMSFC) are investigating the sale of their Hibbert Lane campus. See CAMSFC Estates Committee minutes 17th June 2010, point 12. (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/Minutes%20of%20meetings/Estates%2017_06_10m%20amended%20F&G%2001_12_10.pdf).
• In order to get an impression of prospective supermarket size, an aerial view of Tesco Glossop, Tesco Stockport Portwood and Hibbert Lane site can be seen here here (http://www.autism-is-us.com/images/com.jpg)
• Councillor Sue Ingham (Chair of Marple Area Committee) confirmed on Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college do intend to sell the site, that the land is designated for residential use only and that the councillors have requested a meeting with the college.  On 1st August 2011, the council released a copy of their briefing note (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16480#msg16480) on the matter, detailing their stance on the issue.
• In July 2011, CAMSFC governor Stephen Downs, who is also a local resident, resigned his post of governor (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16429#msg16429) due to disagreement with college management concerning their plans for the supermarket.

• Tesco have a record of buying land prior to getting planning permission and leaving it vacant/abandoned until local authority eventually relinquishes, see Prestatyn situation (http://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/98204/tesco-green-light-for-prestatyn.aspx) and associated Facebook campaign page (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=63674749752&v=wall).
• Paul Lawrence, Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council confirmed during w/c Monday 18th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3642.msg16055#msg16055) that the college want to raise £10-£12m by selling the Hibbert Lane campus.
• An initial meeting of concerned business owners and residents was held on Friday 22nd July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013#msg16013).
• 4 Freedom of Information (FOI) requests have been submitted to the college
  • covenants on the land. 25th July 2011 : partially answered, see details here (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg#outgoing-143240), 28th July 2011 : replied requesting the remaining information (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg#outgoing-143240) (Buxton Lane Campus, Cheadle Campus, wording of convenant)
  • planning correspondence. 29th July 2011 : not answered due to commercial sensitivity (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/building_of_supermarket_on_exist#incoming-196518). 31st July 2011 : internal review requested (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/building_of_supermarket_on_exist#outgoing-143711)
  • accurate list of current governors 29th July 2011 : answered, see details here (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/current_governors). 31st July 2011 : clarification requested, as still seems incorrect (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/current_governors)
  • finances (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/salary_expenditure_and_external)

• 5 FOI requests have been submitted to Stockport council
  • meetings between CAMSFC and Stockport Council (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tesco_or_sainsburys_buying_up_co). 29th July 2011 : answered (held, but off the record, no minutes etc, see details here) (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/tesco_or_sainsburys_buying_up_co#incoming-197005)
  • planning correspondence (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/supermarket_plans_in_marple_on_e). No response yet, deadline is 15th August 2011
  • convenants on the land (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/college_site_and_historic_owners). 2nd August 2011 : denied, as details not held by Counci (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/college_site_and_historic_owners), perhaps Marple In Action can request/purchase from Land Registry?
  • details of retail/traffic/noise impact reports (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/impact_assessment_request). 2nd August 2011 : denied, as impact assessments not done (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/impact_assessment_request) yet
  • Buxton Lane development costs (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_cost_of_devloping_buxton_lan). 2nd August 2011 : denied, as information not held by council (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_cost_of_devloping_buxton_lan).  Perhaps new FOI can be submitted directly to the college?

• 1 FOI request has been submitted to Tesco
  • planning correspondence and the change in land usage from residential to commercial (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/marple_planning)

• 1 FOI request has been submitted to Stockport Sports Trust (who provide sports facilities to the community via college land)
  • Loss of sport facilities in central marple (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/loss_of_sport_facilities_in_cent) - 2nd August 2011 : this was denied (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/loss_of_sport_facilities_in_cent#outgoing-144240)

• Marple In Action representatives from this forum met with CAMSFC management (Christina Cassidy and Andrew Hubert) on Wednesday 27th July, key points:
  • Offers from two different supermarkets being considered by the college.
  • Contract to be signed in October, following College governors meeting.
  • Supermarkets aware that it is retail only per Council guidelines but believe they will be able to develop supermarket there nevertheless

• Area Committe meeting at Marple Senior Citizens Hall, Memorial Park (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?MId=324), Marple on Wednesday 27th July 6pm  MP Andrew Stunnell was not able to attend.  Councillors and hundreds of local residents were in attendence, so many that meeting had to be held in the park itself.  See article in local paper (http://menmedia.co.uk/stockportexpress/news/s/1454010_supermarket-land-row-meeting-moved-to-park-after-room-proves-too-small-as-hundreds-attend) and video clips below
  • Council Meeting Held in Marple Memorial Park - MEN Exclusive #1 (http://www.youtube.com/user/manchesternews#p/u/8/X4lqCodS_fk)
  • Council Meeting Held in Marple Memorial Park - MEN Exclusive #2 (http://www.youtube.com/user/manchesternews#p/u/9/XGf4Atoy4HA)
  • Council Meeting Held in Marple Memorial Park - MEN Exclusive #3 (http://www.youtube.com/user/manchesternews#p/u/10/uhZTtgj4tAo)
  • Marple Residents Move to Memorial Park for Meeting - MEN Exclusive #1 (http://www.youtube.com/user/manchesternews#p/u/11/pbr8XBPk5k0)
  • Marple Residents and Councillors Move to Marple Memorial Park - MEN Exclusive #2 (http://www.youtube.com/user/manchesternews#p/u/12/-8y9X2lxJOA)
  • CAMSFC management are doing a press release w/c Monday 25th July (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16013;topicseen#msg16013).  2nd August 2011 : released, see here (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/STATEMENT%20ISSUED%20BY%20LAWRENCE%20GRANT.pdf).
  • Marple Business forum are meeting on tba to discuss. 
  • As of Tuesday 26th July, 2,500 leaflets (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16122#msg16122) outlining the proposed development and associated implications have been distributed. Click here to view (http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9190/flyery.jpg)
  • An example objection letter/email suitable for editing and distributing to councillors has been posted on the Marple forum (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16125#msg16125).
  • Stockport Council have obligations (via the covenant (http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/covenants_relating_to_the_colleg#incoming-196517)) to
    
    • use parts of the Hibbert Lane site for purposes of providing adult education
    • provide a leisure centre on the site
    • provide a youth club on the site.
  
  
  Contact details
  
  • Local (Compstall) governor on the college board is Margaret McLay (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/MMY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address unknown, phone number 0161 449 9598 (http://margaretmclay.mycouncillor.org.uk/)
  • Local MP is Andrew Stunell, email address enquiries@andrewstunell.org.uk (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact), phone number 0161 406 7070 (http://andrewstunell.org.uk/en/contact).
  • CAMSFC contact for queries is Andrew Hubert, email address andrew.hubert@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
  • CAMSFC principal is Christina Cassidy (http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/CCY%20Profile%202010.pdf), email address info@camsfc.ac.uk, phone number 0161 484 6602.
  • Service Director for Regeneration at Stockport Council is  Paul Lawrence (http://democracy.stockport.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=660), email address paul.lawrence@stockport.gov.uk, phone number 0161 474 4949