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Archive => Archived Boards => Local Issues => Topic started by: crosslaners on July 04, 2011, 08:57:52 PM
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The residents of Cross Lane are outraged that once again No. 2 Cross Lane is to be opened as Young Persons Residential Unit (or naughty boys home as was!). It is incredible that, having been closed once before because of mismanagement, the house is once again set to become a home for delinquent boys. The work that has been carried out on the house over the past three weeks is at best cosmetic as there could be up to six teenagers sent to live in our community from any where in the country and we will have no say in matter!!
A petition will shortly be going round and your signature would be gratefully appreciated - we will send it to the OFSTED board who will ultimately licence the home - at least registering our disgust and dismay that we will once again have to put up with noise, disturbance, possible drug activity, a probable increase in crime.
Has anyone any more information about this home?
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We have an email address if anyone wants pass comment, good or bad, about our campaign to register our dismay at opening the YPRU at No. 2 Cross Lane. The address is:
number2crosslane@hotmail.co.uk
The cross crosslaners!!!
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That is not the only one. You would probably be horrified if you knew how many of these homes there were in Marple. And how much of the crime is a result of us having these here.
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I know there are at least four and wouldn't be surprised if there were more!!
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Please tell everyone the locations of the ones that you know of.
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That is not the only one. You would probably be horrified if you knew how many of these homes there were in Marple. And how much of the crime is a result of us having these here.
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I noticed jobs are being advertised for this new development .
I think I would contact the people opening this home directly , children are in care for various reasons, it may not be the home for children in care you think it is .
It would be a shame to petition against something that could be positive without knowing the full facts of what sort of residential place this is first .
Apologies if you have already done this , I am trying to reassure you ( honest )
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Please tell everyone the locations of the ones that you know of.
I think this would be unfair , as previously posted, children are in care for many reasons , they are not all in care because they are "naughty" , there are residential homes for children in our community, who do marvelous things , and whom without them, children may be worse off in their quality of life ( thats probably the wrong word to explain it but Im sure you know what I mean )
I know of two residential homes in the area , and neither of them has had a negative impact on me living here in Marple, the fact that many dont know they are there is proof of that .
You only have to read the recent threads about children who live in our area kicking in fences and causing criminal damage, as quoted by the police "One comes from a good home " .
I totaly understand ones fears about this residential unit opening, but I honestly think that firm facts need to be established if they havent already, or we may find that children are judged unfairly and not given the chance they deserve ( or even the chance to rehabilitate )
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Well said Pink Panther!
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Out of borough placements can sometimes be problematic ! Does anyone remember the elderly lady who lived on Hibbert Lane in one of the EPH bungalows, she was savagely attacked and lost an eye and I think later died due to the severity of her injuries. The two lads concerned were from the Residential home opposite near Stoke Lacy they had broken in her bungalow and attacked her for money. SO yes it's great children have rights but so do other vulnerable groups a home can be paid up to £6,000 per week for out of placements and then pay the staff minimum wage ? So we then have the scenario of un qualified staff attempting to rehabilitate YPs who are often damaged and in need of more help than can be offered by an out of borough placement
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why should you know and others not.
everyone has the right to know.
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I am mortified by some of the negative comments that have been made about people who have not had the best start in life, agreed they may be problematic but you would not think twice about sending money or support halfway round the world to a complete stranger! The reason why children are in these aweful situations is usually due to bad parenting and many other reasons and in most cases beyond their control, they need help and support from people who should know better. They need a understanding, guidance, support and if that were given at an earlier age then they may not have the need to be homed away from their loved ones (if they have any). People really should have a little more understanding and respect for people who are much less fortunate than most. (I speak from my own experience). :-[
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I totally agree with what you say and have hands on experience on this topic! It would be wrong to identify where the local homes are as the majority of them go unnoticed. What the Cross Lane residents need to know is that the level of care the client group requires and then ensure that this is met by the home owners by asking to meet with them to allay any concerns they have The home I referred to in my last post was different, this home had been opened as a YP residential home to rehabilitate drug users. The owner had the client groups best interests at heart but sadly the clients were not ready to go on a rehab programme and constantly needed to score sadly Marple at that time paid the price.
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The residents of Cross Lane are outraged ... A petition will shortly be going round ... registering our disgust and dismay.
Has anyone any more information about this home?
Interested whether you have considered getting more information about the home prior to organising the petition. Maybe worth considering?
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We have exhausted many avenues to get information. We know who the officer-in-charge is, we know the company who are going to run the home and we know about the company that owns (has shares in) the company that is going to run the home.... we keep digging. The petition idea was taken on advice from others.
Crosslaner
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I don't live on Cross Lane so it's not in my backyard but I agree wholeheartedly with David Myers.
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I am very dissapointed by the negative comments,yes there are young people who have gone off the rails and are placed with responsible carers in our community,what they need is support so give them support dont knock them.I have worked with wayward youngsters for 21 years and have seen more posotive results than negetive,go on give it a try dont be put off by your first knock back once you gain there trust the results will come flooding by and you will feel and see the benefit,as David Cameron said recently"everyone deserves a second chance. :-\
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To be fair to the original poster, I can see where the fears are coming from, as they mentioned, the previous time this had opened as a residential home, it was mis managed , and it appears that they suffered a knock on effect from this .
Its more likely the fear of history repeating itself, rather than the actual residential home itself .
I hope they can get more information that they need from the people who are running this, its difficult when everything is about protecting the child, its hard to open up and give the information that they need, basicly because their hands are tied .
Reassurance can go a million miles , after all, they are going to be neighbours .
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I am mortified by some of the negative comments that have been made about people who have not had the best start in life, agreed they may be problematic but you would not think twice about sending money or support halfway round the world to a complete stranger! The reason why children are in these aweful situations is usually due to bad parenting and many other reasons and in most cases beyond their control, they need help and support from people who should know better. They need a understanding, guidance, support and if that were given at an earlier age then they may not have the need to be homed away from their loved ones (if they have any). People really should have a little more understanding and respect for people who are much less fortunate than most. (I speak from my own experience). :-[
Bravo, DM!
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I don't live on Cross Lane so it's not in my backyard but I agree wholeheartedly with David Myers.
Here here. I live on Buxton Lane but know several people who live on Cross Lane who, far from being "outraged" by the news, don't actually give a damn!
It's far better that we give "naughty boys", if indeed these are to be the recipients of care at No2, the opportunity to turn their lives round than cast them off to learn, from god knows who, a worse way of life. There but for the grace of god or a good person in the past go a lot of Marple residents old and new. I won't name names but there were a number of people who were considered the pits when I lived here as a girl, whose children have gone on to bigger and better things because they were given a chance.
Stop all this nimby-ism and show a bit of Christian (fill in your own belief here) charity.
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I don't live on Cross Lane so it's not in my backyard but I agree wholeheartedly with David Myers.
Here here. I live on Buxton Lane but know several people who live on Cross Lane who, far from being "outraged" by the news, don't actually give a damn!
It's far better that we give "naughty boys", if indeed these are to be the recipients of care at No2, the opportunity to turn their lives round than cast them off to learn, from god knows who, a worse way of life. There but for the grace of god or a good person in the past go a lot of Marple residents old and new. I won't name names but there were a number of people who were considered the pits when I lived here as a girl, whose children have gone on to bigger and better things because they were given a chance.
Stop all this nimby-ism and show a bit of Christian (fill in your own belief here) charity.
Good post , I work with a charity ( volunteer ) that works with young people who have difficulties for various reasons , " Given the chance " speaks volumes , the first post talks about a residential unit that was mis managed and this is what we have to remember there are many, in fact thousands of residential homes for children in care that do a very very good job :) ... unfortunately its when you live next door to one that was mismanaged is when people get worried, and fear for something repeating itself . Im sure if first experiences had been a good one, then the original post wouldnt have been posted .... we have to remember ... it was mismanaged .... a disaster for the children in their care :( and very very sad for them children too .
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I don't live on Cross Lane so it's not in my backyard but I agree wholeheartedly with David Myers.
Here here. I live on Buxton Lane but know several people who live on Cross Lane who, far from being "outraged" by the news, don't actually give a damn!
It's far better that we give "naughty boys", if indeed these are to be the recipients of care at No2, the opportunity to turn their lives round than cast them off to learn, from god knows who, a worse way of life. There but for the grace of god or a good person in the past go a lot of Marple residents old and new. I won't name names but there were a number of people who were considered the pits when I lived here as a girl, whose children have gone on to bigger and better things because they were given a chance.
Stop all this nimby-ism and show a bit of Christian (fill in your own belief here) charity.
And what is your idea of Christian charity
and YOUR point is?
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Alan @ Marple, ... I think its clear to see the point that was being made, we dont need religion on here to squabble about as well , the day that starts, Im off >>>>>>> :P
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You've been off a long time-nasty thing!!
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:P
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You've been off a long time-nasty thing!!
You say the nicest things, in such a way, I see it, that only a daughter could love you for it ::)