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Title: Keeping the towpath clean and tidy
Post by: on October 06, 2003, 10:49:54 PM
I am pleased to read on the MCC website that Marple is included in a "pilot sudy" on keeping the town clean , and that we the ratepayers are now privilaged to have a street cleaning operative 6 days a week.

Am I correct in assuming that this pilot scheme excludes canalside areas immediately adjacent to the highway.

The waste bin at the bottom of the steps at Posset Bridge on Stockport Road is so full that rubbish is now scattered over a considerable area around the bin and it looks an unsightly mess.

If my assumtion is correct (forgive me if I am not), is it SO much to ask the local elected representatives to arrange for officers to come to some arrangement to ensure that this local beauty spot is kept clean, oh and could we have the missing bin on the pavement at the top of the steps replaced...please.?

I entertain no doubt that our elected representatives view this page and  would welcome an observation or comment.Even if it is that it is not a matter for the local authority, but  that they might feel inclined to come to some arrangement with British Waterways.
Title: Keeping the towpath clean and tidy
Post by: alastair on October 06, 2003, 11:39:18 PM
I know the bin your talking about Alan, and I guess it is a Stockport Council bin and i am also guessing that either the people doing the bin duties dont know it exists or are too lazy to walk down the steps and back up again to empty it! I vote for the latter
Title: Keeping the towpath clean and tidy
Post by: Aslan on October 07, 2003, 08:24:30 AM
A bit of a daft question I think, but either of you thought of getting in touch with the Council and asking, rather than just having a go on here?
I believe there is now a freephone number and an email address to go at.
Title: Keeping the towpath clean and tidy
Post by: alan@marple on October 08, 2003, 09:10:05 AM
Thank you Aslan for your comment, the reason for me "having a go" as you put it, is that by putting the issue on this, our community website, as a matter of local concern: It will be read by the elected representatives as well as the public.

If after seven days the matter has not been resolved I shall then consider my next course of action.

Incidently, have you seen the bin, if so what do you think?
Title: Keeping the towpath clean and tidy
Post by: alan@marple on October 08, 2003, 02:47:30 PM
I have given further thought to Aslam's comments, of which I entertain no doubt, were given in the spirit of good intention and civic pride.

So I have, by copy of this subject, informed Streetscene and also British Waterways

Will it help?.

Day 3 Rubbish still overflowing
Title: Keeping the towpath clean and tidy
Post by: alan@marple on October 09, 2003, 03:38:07 PM
Day 4: 2.pm

My faith is streetscene has been restored (at last).

As I have previously written, I took on board Aslam's comments and sent an email to Streetscene and to British Waterways.

I am delighted to say, that I have just seen the street cleansing operative. He has cleaned up the mess, and in doing so has filled several bags of rubbish, so many I think as to warrant a special collection.

He told me that he had come from Stockport having been instructed to tidy up the  mess.

When I inquired if he was the regular cleaner he told me that he was not, but he would like to be. His name is Paul, and he was a most pleasant individual and obviously took a pride in his work.

Well done Streetscene..can we p;lease   keep Paul for Marple.
Title: Keeping the towpath clean and tidy
Post by: on October 10, 2003, 07:13:05 AM
I write with regard to the litter bin on the canal side in Marple. As the Group Manager for the street cleaning department (Streetscene) I felt that it would be helpful to let you all know the situation with this particular bin.

The bin in question has never been included in the street cleaning regime as the Council are not responsible for the Canal towpaths. In order to ascertain whose responsibility it is I have made a calll to British Waterways and other departments within the Council. After speaking to British Waterways they informed me that they also had no record of the bin.

In order to ensure the area remains litter free I have instructed the newly appointed dedicated operative for Marple Centre to check it and remove any litter on a regular basis through the week. If anyone wishes to report a problem with the bin, they may contact the Councils' Contact Centre free of charge on 0800 068 4996.

Alternatively anyone wishing to discuss the matter further may contact me direct on 0161 474 5679.

Mark Cotterill
Group Manager
Streetscene Services
Title: Keeping the towpath clean and tidy
Post by: alastair on October 10, 2003, 09:08:45 AM
And who said having a go in here never worked!!
Title: Keeping the towpath clean and tidy
Post by: alan@marple on October 10, 2003, 09:50:23 AM
Thank you Mr Cotterill   and Paul
Title: Keeping the towpath clean and tidy
Post by: MCC Executive Committee on October 10, 2003, 11:15:27 PM
And what about a "thank you" to Allan for for initiating the discussion.
Thanks also to Mr. Cotterill for taking the trouble to respond.
Streetscene is a good service area of the Council, wish they could be given more resources.
Please let them know your concerns about roads, footpaths, litter etc. in Marple.
Lets hope "Paul" or whoever stays in Marple.
Our understanding is that the service is a pilot, and may be expanded across the Borough as well as staying in Marple centre, well lets hope so.
We used to have this kind of service in Marple and elsewhere years ago, so it is a welcome return to good basic services.
Lets hope Paul is made welcome in Marple so he becomes part of our community, why not give him a cup of tea now and again !
 Â  :O
Title: Keeping the towpath clean and tidy
Post by: Peter on October 28, 2003, 02:01:13 PM
Had a quick chat with Paul yesterday, he seems a nice chap although a little fed up with the endless leaf drop, just as he brushes it up, there they are again.
Perhaps having heard BELLY'S extremely liberal solutions to Marple's road problems he could suggest a way of keeping the leaves on the trees!!! Or perhaps all the mothers that he has freed from the school run could catch the leaves as they fall???
Title: Keeping the towpath clean and tidy
Post by: MCC Executive Committee on October 30, 2003, 01:48:17 PM
Fulfilling an obligation to Paul:
Had a good chat with him the other day, even polished one of his bins.
He's enjoying working in Marple, and told him that we would like him to stay doing his work.
Has anyone noticed the small mechanised road sweeper that has been buzzing around Marple- this is welcome also.
 :)  :)  :)  
This warrants three smiles
Title: Keeping the towpath clean and tidy
Post by: on November 25, 2003, 12:44:13 PM
What a difference Paul has made since he came to Marple.

He is doing a grand job and I shall let him know my appreciation inside my Christmas card to him
Title: Keeping the towpath clean and tidy
Post by: Belly on November 26, 2003, 12:44:15 AM
Actually Peter, thats not a bad idea about the leaves and the mothers!

Whilst they are putting all the leaves in sacks they may also mistakenly pick up some of the sweet wrappers their little darlings stuff into my hedge on a regular basis!  :alien:  :p

Glad to see my liberal transport policies are getting noticed...  
 :blush:
Title: Keeping the towpath clean and tidy
Post by: on December 19, 2003, 09:08:28 AM
Dear All,

I'm writing to inform you all, that unfortunately Paul Lomax the chap recruited to clean the centre of Marple has left our employment. He was lured by the prospect of a full time job, which unfortunately we were unable to offer him due the scheme being a pilot project. However we have managed to replace him and, his name is Micheal Williams. He is new to the business and unfamiliar with Marple, however I hope over the next few weeks he will be as popular as Paul was.

I expect things to go well, however if you have any queries regarding the level of service received do not hesitate to contact me.

Mark Cotterill
Group Manager
Streetscene

Tel no 0800 068 4996
email mark.cotterill@stockport.gov.uk
Title: Keeping the towpath clean and tidy
Post by: alan@marple on December 20, 2003, 04:14:22 PM
Mark,

Thank you for keeping us informed, we shall miss Paul, but no doubt our new man will keep up the good work, I shall keep an eye out for him
Title: Keeping the towpath clean and tidy
Post by: MCC Executive Committee on December 22, 2003, 01:58:58 PM
We're all sorry that Paul has left, but the real point is that the work should continue here and elsewhere, good luck to the new man, he will be offered the same friendlieness that Paul received.
Just in the event that our elected representatives may read this particular section, we would say "support the ending of the pilot study, and make the service permanent, residents want this to happen".
We will write a letter accordingly, these are the services that residents really do want to see.
Good luck to Paul, he did a good job, welcome to Michael Williams, and thank you Mark Cotterill for letting us know.
 Â :D  :O  :D
Title: Keeping the towpath clean and tidy
Post by: Peter on December 26, 2003, 07:02:46 PM
As a dog owner who always scoops my dogs 'poop' and as someone who tries to practice what I preach generally, I found it very disconcerting today to watch helplessly the scene from my kitchen window. A STOCKPORT COUNCILLOR whom I know quite well stood alongside her dog (it was still on the lead) while it deficated on the canal towpath with absolutely no intention of picking up it's mess. I unfortunately stood no chance of calling to her before she had marched off.
I believe that there is a £1000 fine for the rest of us who are caught partaking in this anti-social act.
I have contacted the dog warden asking for his assistance, but would value other peoples suggestions (keep them clean) as to how we report such occurences.

Incidentally, while we are on the subject, congratulations to SMBC for vastly improving the availability of 'poo bags' for those of us that actually use them!

It would appear that some people have wrongly assumed that the councillor described in this posting is Marple's Shan Alexander. This is not correct. Peter clearly and deliberately stated that it was a STOCKPORT Councillor, not Marple, and it is regrettable if anyone has incorrectly jumped to this conclusion.
Mark Whittaker 15/1/2004
Title: Keeping the towpath clean and tidy
Post by: MCC Executive Committee on December 26, 2003, 09:41:53 PM
Well, what can one say?
We all assume you know what to do Peter?
We would be interested to read how you get on, the penalty is quite clear, it's all down to you Peter.
As always, you can't blame the dog, we must EDUCATE dog owners ("EDUCATION, EDUCATION, EDUCATION")to be more socially aware and abide by the law.
 :blush:  :blush:  :p
Title: Keeping the towpath clean and tidy
Post by: Peter on December 27, 2003, 11:51:22 AM
Well actually Adrian, no, what do I do?
That is why I have contacted the Dog Warden, maybe you can help. What exactly do I do?
Title: Keeping the towpath clean and tidy
Post by: MCC Executive Committee on December 27, 2003, 09:44:33 PM
Hello Peter,
The dog warden should explain the procedure to you better than I.
(The canal towpath is owned by British Waterways of course.)
I may be wrong, (out of date with procedure?), but the dog warden may wish to take a statement from you, which will then be processed, it may involve you then going to a magistrates court to act as a witness against the dog owner to reach a prosecution !!
I am assuming the same bye law is in force along our canals as is in force on our public footpaths.
Let us know what the dog warden advises.
Unfortunately I am not the fountain of knowledge on every subject !!
Thats the best I can do, okay.

Adrian Taylor.

 :p
Title: Keeping the towpath clean and tidy
Post by: on December 28, 2003, 07:25:13 PM
Who is the elected representative, goodness me, I wish I had seen it.

Cameras at the ready on Lockside
Title: Keeping the towpath clean and tidy
Post by: MCC Executive Committee on December 31, 2003, 11:02:25 AM
Following Peters submissions on the 26th. and 27th. I thought it would be a good idea to look at SMBC's own site and services concerning the Dog Warden Service, and what they do.
It is an Environvental Health Service, the information shown is very comprehensive, there is an "on line" complaint form concerning dog fouling and there are details of the process concerning witnesses to dog fouling (the poor old beast is guilty even it's running loose).
Interested readers need to go to the Councils web site at
www.stockport.gov.uk and search for "Dog Warden Service" and simply follow the links.
So Peter if you want to know "what to do" I suggest you have a look at the Dog Warden site, all dog owners should look here also to find out what they might be liable for, the penalty for dogfouling are stated within a range of £50 (fixed penalty) up to £1000.
Anyone can ring them on 01614744207, dog fouling is covered by the Dog(Fouling of Land) Act 1996.
Hope this helps you Peter, but you have written to the Dog Warden service anyway so no doubt they will be following up the matter.
 :O