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Title: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: beverley hills on January 13, 2011, 06:16:55 PM
I have just received the latest newsletter about the planned 'improvements' to the Dan Bank / Dooley Lane junction. It has prompted me to update myself with the comments made about Seventeen Windows. I feel compelled to write about the results of the complaints made to The Local Government Ombudsmen and in particular the Council Complaints Officer. To reject a complaint made about a Councils inappropriate spending of public funds on the basis that the Council approved the spend is a nonsense. It in effect means that the Council are not responsible to anyone and can spend as and when they like on whatever scheme they wish with no comeback whatsoever.

The second point I want to raise, is the planned Dooley Lane scheme.

Are we going to allow the Council to decimate the woodland by the removal of many substantial trees in order to carry out this so called junction improvement. Obviously some people will be in favour, but I am sure the vast majority will be against this wholesale destruction. The trees on the south side,  regrettably had to be removed in order to secure the banking, there was no choice. The planned removal of trees on the north side is not necessary. I personally would prefer to wait in the traffic queues rather than have the woodland entry to Marple compromised. Who has decided that this scheme is necessary, is it our local Councillors, or is it the numpties in the Council who always think they know what's better for us.This scheme would no doubt improve traffic flow. but is the price really worth paying. Finally, this scheme is funded wholly by the Council. I thought that the country was seriously in debt, cuts to local Councils totalling millions, clearly the message hasn't reached Stockport. How can they spend so much money at a time of such austerity. We must not let this happen/
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: admin on January 13, 2011, 08:37:28 PM
Sorry Beverley Hills, but I thought it best to break out the second part of your post about Dan Bank from the 17 Windows thread as that is more than big enough already. If you have more knowledge of the LGO findings on 17 Windows then please do re-post the details in that topic.

I also received the leaflet today and after scratching my head a few times - it is not very clear and open to misinterpretation - I read into it a different understanding of who is funding what. On the back of the leaflet it says "wholly funded by the Department of Transport". I think this refers to the whole scheme except the improvements to the Dooley/Marple Road/Stockport Road Junction, which is (wholly) funded by SMBC. There is a further clue to this on page 2. I think my interpretation is correct but I'm not 100% sure. It shouldn't be ambiguous at all but it certainly is.

My own view on the trees is that they are not ancient woodland and if they have a 10 year management plan that includes planting new native trees and shrubs then no long-term harm will be done. The wider road and cycle lane will benefit many people. The whole Dan Bank scheme will have been funded and committed before the cuts and (if my interpretation is correct) most of the money is coming from the DoT anyway.

Just so everyone knows what we're talking about if they haven't had a leaflet yet, the final stage of Dan Bank Improvements are due to start on 31 January for 8 weeks until 27 March 2011. Dan Bank will be closed between 7pm and 6am each evening (except Sunday evenings) as it was during the stablisation of the bank. The improvements include resurfacing, new street lighting, road widening to create a shared footway/cycleway and improvement to the Dooley Lane junction.

See here for more details: www.stockport.gov.uk/danbank  and here http://www.u-to-us.com/danbank/default.asp?pageid=4&groupid=4

And here's a Podcast: http://www.u-to-us.com/danbank/admin/uploads/podcast_audio_2011.mp3
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Barbara on January 13, 2011, 08:56:52 PM
Without commenting on the politics of this issue, I have remarked for some time that some of the trees overhanging the road looked dangerous!  They are not ancient woodland, and I haven't forgotten the time one fell down on to the road, luckily missing both the school  and rush hour traffic. 
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on January 14, 2011, 09:26:40 PM
Well there is some good news at last !!  There is not going to be a cycle track as such its just a wide pavement which will allow cyclists to ride up and down Dan Bank.  Not so good news for the pedestrians when a bike comes hurling down towards you at crazy miles an hour  :-\  I have spoken  to the structural engineer who assures me that all the original stone wall will be cleaned and replaced and they are also planning to put the original steps back after cleaning then.  
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: nbt on January 15, 2011, 07:35:18 PM
Going downhill I would expect cyclists to use the road, as it's very easy to keep up with traffic - I certainly do. Going up hill on Dan Bank is awful, it's not a wide road and there's very little space for cars to get past safely. Lack of space doesn;t stop them of course, they just tend to barge past anyway, hence I tend to avoid going up dan bank - I use the old road round the back of the school instead
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Come on Nick, get real! on January 16, 2011, 11:03:54 AM
I find cycling down Dan Bank on the road easy. I have only ever pushed my bike up on the pavement. The new cycle track will be excellent for cyclists who are fit enough to cycle up it. I don't think pedestrians need worry about bikes coming towards them as I'd say the majority will continue to cycle down Dan Bank on the road and cyclists coming up Dan Bank will not be going very fast.

I really wish attitudes towards cyclists in this country would change. We have just as much right to be on the road as other vehicles and I'd say the majority of us respect others on the roads and follow the laws, its usually car drivers who behave inappropriately towards cyclists. Stockport council are doing a good job providing better facilities for cyclists and hopefully this will create more and more people cycling.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on January 16, 2011, 06:55:21 PM
I think the cycle track is going to be great, i can ride my horse up and down it, as I have the  same problems with the road as cyclists.  I only hope there is enough room for all the hundreds of thousands of people who the council and people on this site say walk up and down Dan Bank to use the crossing outside Seventeen windows.   
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: admin on January 18, 2011, 09:27:01 PM
There is now a page about the Dan Bank tree works on the Myers Tree Care web site:

http://www.myerstreecare.co.uk/danbank.html
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: My login is Henrietta on January 24, 2011, 12:26:39 AM
Well there is some good news at last !!  There is not going to be a cycle track as such its just a wide pavement which will allow cyclists to ride up and down Dan Bank.  Not so good news for the pedestrians when a bike comes hurling down towards you at crazy miles an hour  :-\  I have spoken  to the structural engineer who assures me that all the original stone wall will be cleaned and replaced and they are also planning to put the original steps back after cleaning then.  
but it's illegal to ride a bicycle on the pavement, isn't it?
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: My login is Henrietta on January 24, 2011, 12:31:58 AM
I think the cycle track is going to be great, i can ride my horse up and down it, as I have the  same problems with the road as cyclists.  I only hope there is enough room for all the hundreds of thousands of people who the council and people on this site say walk up and down Dan Bank to use the crossing outside Seventeen windows.   
It definitely IS an offence to ride a horse on the pavement - I narrowly escaped being booked for it in Charlesworth. (The apparently 12 year old policeman made me dismount and then lectured me sternly on the issue. It misfired on him afterwards when he had to give a somewhat corpulent and inagile elderly lady a leg-up onto a 16.2hh horse!)
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: nbt on January 24, 2011, 06:09:54 PM
Yes, it's illegal to ride a bike  on the pavement (note pavement i.e. at the side of the road). However most police officers will use common sense and as long as the cyclist is careful and is riding on the pavement to avoid the dangers of riding in the road, will let it pass. If the road is clear of motorised traffic, then  the cyclist should be on the road of course, and the cyclist should of course have due consideration for pedestrians

however in this case, it will be a shared use path where legislation allows for the use by cyclists.

If only every had a little consideration for others, we wouldn't need any of this, but people seem to be sadly more and more self-centred and insular these days, and vehemently opposed to anything that disrupts them and their preferred way of life :(
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: certa cito on January 24, 2011, 11:12:00 PM
If only every had a little consideration for others, we wouldn't need any of this, but people seem to be sadly more and more self-centred and insular these days, and vehemently opposed to anything that disrupts them and their preferred way of life :(

Well said
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on January 25, 2011, 12:01:09 AM
Yes, it's illegal to ride a bike  on the pavement (note pavement i.e. at the side of the road). However most police officers will use common sense and as long as the cyclist is careful and is riding on the pavement to avoid the dangers of riding in the road, will let it pass. If the road is clear of motorised traffic, then  the cyclist should be on the road of course, and the cyclist should of course have due consideration for pedestrians

however in this case, it will be a shared use path where legislation allows for the use by cyclists.

If only every had a little consideration for others, we wouldn't need any of this, but people seem to be sadly more and more self-centred and insular these days, and vehemently opposed to anything that disrupts them and their preferred way of life :(
So  I  can ride my horse up and down, there must be a bylaw  ??? Horse came before bike etc :-\
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: nbt on January 25, 2011, 07:14:24 PM
So  I  can ride my horse up and down, there must be a bylaw  ??? Horse came before bike etc :-\

You can ride a horse or a bike on the road. Legally speaking, you cannot ride a bike on the pavement unless it is a shared use path, i.e. a cyclepath. I doubt such legislation would cover riding horses on a shared use path although there are  instances, e.g. the trans-pennine trail
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: My login is Henrietta on January 25, 2011, 07:21:30 PM
Yes, it's illegal to ride a bike  on the pavement (note pavement i.e. at the side of the road). ....however in this case, it will be a shared use path where legislation allows for the use by cyclists.

So  I  can ride my horse up and down, there must be a bylaw  ??? Horse came before bike etc :-\
No, (resigned voice), I have already explained to you that IT IS ILLEGAL TO RIDE A HORSE ON THE PAVEMENT. Motorised traffic on the actual road is supposed to give way to horses and horse-drawn vehicles. Horses may not be lead or ridden on the pavement (or on any footpath for that matter). It would be a different issue if the cycle/pedestrian way was to be designated a bridleway.

(And if you wish to dispute this, Miss Marple, I refer you to the official British Horse Society's Riding Road Safety manual)
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: My login is Henrietta on January 25, 2011, 07:41:01 PM
You can ride a horse or a bike on the road. Legally speaking, you cannot ride a bike on the pavement unless it is a shared use path, i.e. a cyclepath. I doubt such legislation would cover riding horses on a shared use path although there are  instances, e.g. the trans-pennine trail
Our posts seem to have overlapped, NBT. On the TPT horses are only permitted on bridleways and the parts of the TPT which use the highway. Cycles and pedestrians may use bridleways but cycles are supposed to give way to horses. Even if a bridleway follows the route of a road, (as it does in Charlesworth outside the farm where I keep my horses) horses are still not allowed on the pavement. They must use the actual roadway.

To be very honest I have broken the law occasionally when a previously quiet road has suddenly become a stock car track in a matter of seconds! Somehow a court appearance and a fine pale into insignificance when an idiot with a death wish is driving straight at me. Drivers are often unaware of the damage that can be done to their car if they run into half a ton of horse!

Yes, I know, I know, there are idiot horse-riders too. Sensible ones train for and take their Riding Road Safety test and wear hi-viz clothing.


Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: admin on January 25, 2011, 08:00:09 PM
There are now some great bird's eye views of the tree work being undertaken at Dan Bank on Myers Tree Care's web site:

http://www.myerstreecare.co.uk/danbank.html

Pleased to say that it was my idea to take the camera aloft.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on January 25, 2011, 08:13:21 PM
Hey wow Trigger !!!  I believe anything you say !! 
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: certa cito on January 27, 2011, 11:39:14 AM
There are now some great bird's eye views of the tree work being undertaken at Dan Bank on Myers Tree Care's web site:

http://www.myerstreecare.co.uk/danbank.html

Pleased to say that it was my idea to take the camera aloft.

Wow there are some good photos there. Are there any plans anywhere and the www that we can see whats going to happen with all the widening etc, I have looked but can not find any?????
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Mrs O on January 27, 2011, 07:17:27 PM
Drove down dan bank today and was horrified at the scale of the tree felling. It is a sad day for me as the realisation hit home that an area of outstanding natural beauty has gone forever. The lovely Marple tree tunnel! a high price to pay for a shared foot/cycle path.  :o :'(
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: admin on January 28, 2011, 10:20:22 AM
Wow there are some good photos there. Are there any plans anywhere and the www that we can see whats going to happen with all the widening etc, I have looked but can not find any?????

The only thing like a plan I've seen so far is just for the junction here: http://www.u-to-us.com/danbank/default.asp?pageid=4&groupid=4

More photos of the tree removal have been added to Myers Tree Care's web site this morning:

http://www.myerstreecare.co.uk/danbank.html
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: marveld on January 28, 2011, 03:51:00 PM
Blessedly Silent wrote:
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Drove down dan bank today and was horrified at the scale of the tree felling. It is a sad day for me as the realisation hit home that an area of outstanding natural beauty has gone forever

I don't see Dan Bank mentioned here: http://tinyurl.com/6em24r5 (http://tinyurl.com/6em24r5)

Please don't panic, it may take a little while, but Dan Bank's greenery is not lost "forever".

It's happened before: "Dan Bank, post WW1. The trees were all used for the war effort."

(http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/albums/uploads/general/picture150.jpg)
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: certa cito on January 29, 2011, 11:58:49 AM
Wow there are some good photos there. Are there any plans anywhere and the www that we can see whats going to happen with all the widening etc, I have looked but can not find any?????

The only thing like a plan I've seen so far is just for the junction here: http://www.u-to-us.com/danbank/default.asp?pageid=4&groupid=4

More photos of the tree removal have been added to Myers Tree Care's web site this morning:

http://www.myerstreecare.co.uk/danbank.html

Thanks Mark, that's all I had found, I thought there must be better designs etc out there in the big  www
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Concerned on February 02, 2011, 12:36:55 PM
As a resident on Dan Bank I have been horrified this week at the wholesale destruction of the trees on the embankment outside my house. The residents have only had a very brief letter from the council explaining that some trees growing through the existing retaining wall will need to be removed before the wall can be rebuilt and that it is to be rebuilt 1 metre back from its present position. I spoke to the tree surgeon who explained that not only these trees but some very mature and beautiful oak and Beech will also be removed to make it easier to build the wall and that cutting through roots may destabilise the trees.

What a tragedy for the sake of a wider footpath!  Surely the council could have a further look at the situation and with further consultation some of these mature trees could be preserved. If there are any interested parties out there, Alex Bremner, who is in charge of the works at Stockport Council, has agreed to meet with me at 7pm tonight ( Wednesday 2nd February at the site on the corner of Dan Bank ( Dan Bank cul de sac) to discuss which trees they are cutting down.

It is important to act now as it will be 100 years or so before our area regains its beautiful woodland feel.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Mrs O on February 02, 2011, 01:20:56 PM
I am with you on this subject Miss concerned. It is very sad. I first wrote about this in march 2009 in the topic seventeen windows when this awful tree felling started. I have mentioned it many times that the entrance to marple is ruined. It will affect you greatly as the beauty and privacy you have enjoyed will be gone. I would also imagine your property will be de-valued. widening the pavement is not ,in my opinion, necessary. It is impossible to replace the beauty stolen by man. :'( The whole cost of the total works in that area is an outrage. What are the fences for. screening?
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Concerned on February 02, 2011, 01:59:16 PM
Thanks for your support. The fences are apparently an 'acoustic barrier' and erected at great cost to the council; I dread to think how much, and are a complete waste of time. The noise from the works has been dreadful, particularly when the drilling for the road supports was being done; but I understood that these repairs
 had to be done. It is the environmental impact of the removal of the healthy mature trees  on both residents and wildlife that is being ignored inspite of the fact that they have employed ecologists etc at further great costs to establish the effect. These reports have obviously not been made available.

We do not want any further urbanisation. My husband cycled to work in Manchester for many years and says cycle ways are a complete waste of time. They create a false sense of security and then come to a sudden end as the route up stockport rd will do.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Mrs O on February 02, 2011, 02:09:40 PM
I have spoken to councillor Craig Wright who said he will attend.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: minx on February 02, 2011, 04:29:28 PM
Just received a leaflet from local residents concerned about Dan Bank tree felling.  Meeting arranged for tonight (2Feb) with Alex Bremner and local Councillor Martin Candler who cannot understand the local residents anger .
Lengthy conversation with the above Councillor who informs me that all was made clear in the leaflets sent out with the Councils proposals. 
Informed him of my shock and disbelief at the felling of all the trees as I presumed that they would simply be thinned.  How naive can I be?
Will certainly be at the meeting (7pm tonight).  Does anyone else feel hood winked by the Council?


 >:(
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: amazon on February 02, 2011, 04:45:33 PM
dont you think if the trees had not been on the opposite side of the road the road and banking may not have had to be done .trees do a lot of damage . if you have any large trees    on your property have a look round .look at your paths walls and down your manhole cover . tree roots go for water that's one of the reasons Dan bank had to be done .the trees werent managed in the first place . 
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: admin on February 02, 2011, 05:53:54 PM
I was sent a copy of the leaflet by Miss Concerned with a request to post it, so here it is. Because I've had to reduce the quality to get it down to a reasonable file size I've also included a copy of the photo in this post at a better size.

www.marple-uk.com/misc/DBLeaflet.pdf

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Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Mrs O on February 02, 2011, 06:14:39 PM
dont you think if the trees had not been on the opposite side of the road the road and banking may not have had to be done .trees do a lot of damage . if you have any large trees    on your property have a look round .look at your paths walls and down your manhole cover . tree roots go for water that's one of the reasons Dan bank had to be done .the trees werent managed in the first place . 
This felling is nothing to do with the road slippage, It's wanton destruction of nature for the sake of a concrete/tarmac widened path.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on February 02, 2011, 06:27:39 PM
I hope all the people who supported this so call cycle track are hanging their head in shame !  I hope even more that they will be out in force tonight at the meeting instead of being armchair environmentalists who cycle down Dan Bank once in a blue moon.  Wake up and smell the coffee this is nothing to do with green issues, its the councils long thought out scheme  to increase the flow of traffic in and out of Marple.  Don't believe me ??  then ask yourself why they are also taking the bend out at the bottom of Dan Bank. Could it be that BIKES can not negotiate bends  :-\  don't think so do you !!
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on February 02, 2011, 06:45:48 PM
Cllr Bispham will also be coming to the meeting tonight
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Tricky on February 02, 2011, 07:55:48 PM
  Wake up and smell the coffee this is nothing to do with green issues, its the councils long thought out scheme  to increase the flow of traffic in and out of Marple. 

For what purpose ?
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Belly on February 02, 2011, 08:02:15 PM
  Wake up and smell the coffee this is nothing to do with green issues, its the councils long thought out scheme  to increase the flow of traffic in and out of Marple. 

For what purpose ?

For the benefit of 99% of the population of Marple who drive their cars up and down Dan Bank? How dare they!  ???
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on February 02, 2011, 08:54:59 PM

  WRONG  Belly  !!!!!!   Cllr Wright says that less cars will be on the road  :-\ Because you and me wont be driving !!  and all the school children will be walking to school   OH !!  I wish I lived in his world  :o
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on February 02, 2011, 09:46:01 PM
What a fantastic turn out at such short notice, the locals came out and showed their support at the mindless distruction of mature trees. Tonight we were able to stop the felling of some of the trees until residents are informed tomorrow of exactly which ones are to be taken down and why !  There is a 300 year old tree further up  the road which will be felled when phase 3 begins  It is not known when phase 3 will start because they have not as yet acquired the land from a private garden which would allow the the path / track to continue to the start of Hill Top Drive.  Some of you maybe intrested to know that there were several cyclists who voiced their opinion that they were opposed to a cycle track as it did not warrent the cost and devastation caused.  Residents have not been kept informed and are horrified at the overall appearance of the development and had not been  informed of the magnitude of the work  Residents had been informed that the path would be widened by 1 meter they have now been informed that they will need  2 1/2 meters which has caused anger amongst residents as they feel this had not been made clear  We were informed by the structural engineer that the acoustic fence alone cost £40.000.  Another worrying issue is that residents are reporting not seeing the badgers and foxes which were regular visitors through their gardens and on Dan Bank   It is also not known if the bats will return due to the distruction of their habitat. The only positive thing about tonight was  Cllr Andrews Bisphams contribution I found him sympathetic and honest  regarding his lack of knowledge as to the scale of the  project. 
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Andy on February 03, 2011, 10:43:15 AM
Crikey - if you are worried about those trees you better take a look at what the lib dems are enabling the tories to do

http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/s/save-our-forests

Andy
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on February 03, 2011, 11:26:34 AM
Crikey - if you are worried about those trees you better take a look at what the lib dems are enabling the tories to do

http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/s/save-our-forests

Andy
Will you help me save this tree ?
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Concerned on February 03, 2011, 11:45:27 AM
As Miss Marple said it was a great turnout last night for the meeting with Alex Bremner and the 'Tree expert' who came with him despite the rain. It showed the depth of feeling there is, not just from the immediate vicinity but the whole of Marple. The first person to arrive had come down from Hawk Green and if there had been time to publicise the meeting, I am sure there would have been an even bigger crowd.

I think Alex got the message about brevity of information and we hope that he will pass this on to Stockports PR team who issue the regular newsletters. We will not be fobbed off with such cursory details again.
The tree expert gave us his assurances that some of the mature beech trees would stay and we asked him to ensure that Myers Tree Care are fully informed about where they should wield their chain saws; incidentally last night was blissfully quiet compared to the previous 2 nights; I think we frightened them off!
He also explained that he would ensure that more mature specimens would now be planted and will liase with the local residents on Dan Bank, who will overlook the top area of the slope about how they should be spaced and that a varying height canopy would be planted with ground cover of native grasses and bulbs giving back the woodland feel, unlike across the road where very spindly specimens have been planted with seemingly little thought.

It also seems that with or without a shared use for cyclists, the pavement has to be set back the same distance to comply with the usual 'safety regulations' for a retaining wall. We just cant get away from it can we.
I will post further info as I receive it from the council - or if!
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: bluebelly on February 03, 2011, 12:20:47 PM
ive lived in marple/marple bridge for most of my life. as a child and adult as i arrive at the bottom of dan bank and assend through all the magnificent wood land i know im home. no matter where ive been or what time off year it is, the tunnel of trees is the driveway home. good on you , to all whom care.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: jimblob on February 03, 2011, 12:34:36 PM
I lived in Marple in my teens and moved back here 3 year ago, Dan Bank certainly is the gateway to Marple, albeit a slightly congested one. We take that choice when we chose to live here. I think what is frustrating is the Council's overriding zeal for what they like to call "Highway Improvements" which seem to end up as being anything but! 17 Windows, Dan Bank, Chester Road traffic calming in Hazel Grove and now Bramhall Green Roundabout, it's relentless. I don't for a minute suggest that safety for pedestrians and cyclists isn't important, God knows, I've had a few near misses cycling to work recently, but we seem to be letting the council spend every increasing amounts of our money for ever diminshing returns, the net result being areas like 17 Windows and Dan Bank becoming spoiled and lost. Dare to ask the Highways team why and they climb onto their "safety" soapbox and seem deaf to any suggestion that their schemes are anything other than wholly justifiable, regardless of the effects on the surrounding streets, the flow of traffic or the amount of our money that's being spent.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: beverley hills on February 03, 2011, 05:11:06 PM
In my submission of the 13th January, I raised my concerns about the impending devastation to the woodland on Dan Bank. If only the people who are now protesting had shown some interest at that stage, it might have shown the Council the depth of feeling against such a scheme in order to provide a cycle path. To the Marple Councillors and Marple Area Committee, who apparently were instrumental in requesting a scheme to relieve traffic congestion in Marple, I say 'well done' you have between you ruined what was once a pleasant woodland entry to marple.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Mrs O on February 03, 2011, 05:25:26 PM
Do you really think that protesting on 13th of January would of made any difference?People have been ill informed to the severity of the felling and if they had known the truth, would of protested sooner.I feel your negative comments are out of order.what if anything have you done? please refer to your first post. You stated "WE" must not let this happen. >:(
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on February 03, 2011, 05:50:32 PM
In my submission of the 13th January, I raised my concerns about the impending devastation to the woodland on Dan Bank. If only the people who are now protesting had shown some interest at that stage, it might have shown the Council the depth of feeling against such a scheme in order to provide a cycle path. To the Marple Councillors and Marple Area Committee, who apparently were instrumental in requesting a scheme to relieve traffic congestion in Marple, I say 'well done' you have between you ruined what was onche same time a pleasant woodland entry to marple.
These decisions were made well before the work commenced on Seventeen Windows  My advice to you is to take the matter up with all the supporters on this sight of Seventeen Windows !  Who are now guilty by their absence  and so would I be if I had supported such a ridicules scheme.  On the positive side I am looking forward to a 4 x 4 and Volvo free road outside my house on Stockport Road when the track is completed because ALL CHILDREN WILL BE WALKING TO SCHOOL AND WE WILL BE ALL CYCLING TO WORK!!   Don't believe me???  then ask councillor Wright because he Say's it will happen and this is why the council are undertaking all this work and that's why he supports it !!!   Beam me up please ! Mission to base can you hear me ?
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: beverley hills on February 03, 2011, 06:35:57 PM
Whoops sorry Trixie didn't mean to upset anybody! I was referring to the local councillors and Marple Area Committee who have apparently promoted this scheme, not concerned Marple residents.  We are all concerned about the devastation and how this has happened so we need to stick together.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: admin on February 03, 2011, 07:31:17 PM
The tree expert gave us his assurances that some of the mature beech trees would stay and we asked him to ensure that Myers Tree Care are fully informed about where they should wield their chain saws; incidentally last night was blissfully quiet compared to the previous 2 nights; I think we frightened them off!

Just to clarify, Myers Tree Care completed their involvement in the Dan Bank Tree works on Friday 28th January. The additional work done since then has been carried out by a subcontractor of the main contractor responsible for the road strengthening/widening.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on February 03, 2011, 07:50:23 PM
I have emailed the council to request a tree preservation order be put on the very large 300 year old tree that is soon to face the chain saw as part of phase 3 of the development.  Does anyone know when phase 3 starts ??  Please help me to save this healthy tree  ??? Any suggestions welcomed  :'(
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Deniseam on February 03, 2011, 07:59:49 PM
I also support the proposal for more mature trees to be replanted when all the work is done.  By that I mean large vandal proof trees.  You can just see it now - one lot of idiots going down the road bending and breaking all the tops of the new trees off and further money would have to be spent to repair the damage. 
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: admin on February 03, 2011, 08:11:29 PM
Miss Marple has asked me to post this on her behalf. The red bits have been edited by me:

From: stockportdirect@stockport.gov.uk <stockportdirect@stockport.gov.uk>
Subject: Re: Website Feedback
To: ##################
Date: Thursday, 3 February, 2011, 14:06

Dear Ms "Marple"

Thank you for your email regarding a tree presavation order request.
I have forwarded the details to the Parks and Recreation Department who will contact you with regards to the application.

Case reference number: 101085218

Please quote this reference number if you require any further assistance.

Kind Regards
Donna
Customer Service Officer
Stockport Direct
Contact Centre
Tel: 0161 217 6111

----- Original Message -----
From:        ##################
Sent:        2011-02-02 23:34:01.0
To:        stockportdirect@stockport.gov.uk
Subject:        Website Feedback

I want to put a tree presavation on a tree at the top of Dan Bank marple.  Is a 300 hundred year old tree near Hill Top Drive   can you send me the relevant forms

Regards

"Miss Marple"
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on February 03, 2011, 08:12:06 PM
Its going to be one hell of a night here tonight on Dan Bank, the really big machinery has just arrived I have never seen so much equipment  
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: belleesummerbee on February 03, 2011, 08:17:52 PM
The only way to protect a tree is by the serving of a Tree Preservation Order. You will have to provide reasons why the tree is important within the landscape (high amenity value, important within the street scene etc); the tree will also have to be structurally sound. Not sure if the intended works have been through the planning process, but if they have and the tree was identified for removal, the planning application would prevail and an Order could not be served.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: marveld on February 03, 2011, 08:31:35 PM
Miss Marple asked
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Does anyone know when phase 3 starts ???

I asked Martin Candler this question. There are no dates in place for Phase 3 that covers the path down Stockport Road from "Hilltop Drive" to "Dan Bank" (the 1st road, not the farm). New Council money would need to be used for this and there ain't nothing in the pot. It's fair to say, no-one knows anything concrete about the phase 3 timescales.

Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: admin on February 03, 2011, 09:16:03 PM
The Planning Database, which is now back on-line, shows this:

http://planning.stockport.gov.uk/PlanningData/AcolNetCGI.gov?ACTION=UNWRAP&RIPNAME=Root.PgeResultDetail&TheSystemkey=110130

And also appears to show that there was NO consultation with neighbours!

http://planning.stockport.gov.uk/PlanningData/AcolNetCGI.gov?ACTION=UNWRAP&RIPNAME=Root.PgeConsultees&TheSystemkey=110130

There are no documents either, although a report is quoted: Woodland management to facilitate engineering works including felling and pruning operations in accordance with the arboricultural report. (DS/19/13E)
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: admin on February 03, 2011, 09:39:15 PM
And some interesting stuff found while looking for that report (which I've not managed to do so far)

http://interactive.stockport.gov.uk/edrms/committeeminutes/document.ashx?id=37644&pg=1

http://interactive.stockport.gov.uk/edrms/committeeminutes/document.ashx?id=37644&pg=2

http://interactive.stockport.gov.uk/edrms/committeeminutes/document.ashx?id=37644&pg=3
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: belleesummerbee on February 03, 2011, 10:02:12 PM
The Planning data base identifies the application type as Tree Work only; this would only be required where trees are protected either by a Tree Preservation Order (TPO) or Conservation Area (CA) status. It may be the tree/trees Miss Marple is trying to protect is/are already protected if the Order extends up to Hill Top Drive. The Local Authority has no requirement to consult with neighbours when determining either TPO applications or CA notifications. The application (DC/046162) has been determined under delegated powers and not presented before committee. Its difficult to see how this is woodland management, it appears to be clear fell, and replant to facilitate and engineering operation. It would be nice to see the arboricultural report. (DS/19/13E)
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on February 04, 2011, 06:20:42 PM
I think there is to be a meeting tomorrow morning at the library at 10-15am held by Cllr Bispham re the widening of Dan Bank    Has anyone got more information on this  ???
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on February 04, 2011, 07:52:14 PM
Correction i have got it wrong the meeting will be on 19/02/2011 10.15am at the library Cllr Bispham is inviting an arboriculturist to advise on trees in the area. From what I can gather its about local people having information on the tree programme in Marple and the Bridge.  Given what has happened on Dan Bank the Cllr feels that there should be greater consultation with local people on issues such as the removal of trees.  I feel due to the Carnage  which has just been allowed to take place on Dan Bank its a good opportunity for us all to ensure nothing like this ever happens again without consultation and negotiations with the people it concerns, so try and come along and hear if there is a chainsaw coming to your area soon  :-\  LEST WE FORGET !!
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on February 05, 2011, 10:15:02 AM
For people who I am sure read this forum who are not local and may have never seen Dan Bank in it's former glory, could someone please put a before and after photo on so that people can understand just what has caused our anger.   :'(
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: admin on February 05, 2011, 05:02:15 PM
By coincidence the lastest batch of archive folders I've received from Marple Local History include one for the Dan Bank area, so I've uploaded the new ones from this to the Dan Bank & Dooley Lane album on the Virtual Tour and visitors can see Dan Bank and many of the changes that have occurred to its appearance since the very early 1900s. This link will show you the latest additions:

http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/thumbnails.php?album=lastup&cat=-40

Myers Tree Care's web site has also been updated to make clear the extent of their involvement in the treeworks on Dan Bank and there are some recent photos on there taken from when they started until completion of their work, which finished on 28 January before the nightworks began.

http://www.myerstreecare.co.uk/danbank.html     
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: alan@romiley on February 09, 2011, 02:51:49 PM

As I drove down Dan Bank this morning, for the first time in several weeks, I saw for the first time the shamefull carnage that has taken place, those beautiful trees gone forever, at least for most of our lifetimes, was there no alternative?

Was consent required to fell those trees?


I know it's to late now!
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: heather on February 09, 2011, 07:50:38 PM
agree totally with you its such a shame you allways know your home when you see the trees on Dan bank
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: belleesummerbee on February 09, 2011, 09:25:16 PM
Was consent required to fell those trees?

Yes; the Council made an application to its self with one department making the submission and another approving it.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Mrs O on February 09, 2011, 10:43:03 PM
The destruction of the whole area started over 2 years ago as I mentioned in my first S'W' post.it is really gathering pace now. for what? a wider footpath and shared cycle track that will come to an abrupt end before, yes before Hill top Drive.It's about as much use a quarter mile long motorway.what a high price to pay, the beautiful trees and a ridiculous amount of money.What a great shame!
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: admin on February 11, 2011, 12:23:29 PM
There is an article in the Stockport Express this week under the headline “Fury over tree felling” which states “Councillors and representatives from Myers Tree Care, the company that has been contracted by the council to fell the trees, attended the protest to answer residents’ questions.”

This report is incorrect. Representatives from Myers Tree Care were not in attendance at the protest as their contracted work was completed on 28 January before the road closure works began. The contractor engaged by the council to fell trees during the road closure works, which have been ongoing since 31 January, is Bethell (the road widening contractor) and their tree work subcontractor Westfield from Leyland. It was presumably representatives from one or both of these companies that attended the protest.

In view of the level of protests perhaps Bethell and Westfield are slightly reticent to make it clear who is really doing the work at Dan Bank. Perhaps they are happier for local firm Myers Tree Care to take all the flack for the work that they are undertaking on the council's behalf?

As explained on Myers Tree Care's web site, the work undertaking by them was the removal of trees too technically difficult to be undertaken during the night works and planting of new trees after the road widening works are completed. www.myerstreecare.co.uk/danbank.html

There is also a report from the council in response to the protests at:

http://www.u-to-us.com/danbank/DanBank_FebUpdate.pdf
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Mr Marple on February 11, 2011, 02:36:27 PM
Went down Dan Bank yesterday and the place is an utter mess.

I just hope they don't do anything that doesn't need doing.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: marveld on February 11, 2011, 03:44:02 PM
admin said:
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In view of the level of protests perhaps Bethell and Westfield are slightly reticent to make it clear who is really doing the work at Dan Bank. Perhaps they are happier for local firm Myers Tree Care to take all the flack for the work that they are undertaking on the council's behalf?

I put it down to naff reporting. On the night, it was clear to me that the "tree man" was not from Myers Tree Care.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Mrs O on February 11, 2011, 03:52:17 PM
Yes we were told the man was from the planning department.Nobody is blaming the tree people,they dio what they are told to do.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on February 11, 2011, 05:52:16 PM
The original wall and steps are to be cleaned and put back  ???  Well I hope so because from what I can see the original wall and steps are not stored  securely and are  in danger of going the same way as our grids if security is not put in place. 
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Osdog on February 13, 2011, 01:10:41 PM
Quote
"Correction i have got it wrong the meeting will be on 19/02/2011 10.15am at the library Cllr Bispham is inviting an arboriculturist to advise on trees in the area. From what I can gather its about local people having information on the tree programme in Marple and the Bridge.  Given what has happened on Dan Bank the Cllr feels that there should be greater consultation with local people on issues such as the removal of trees.  I feel due to the Carnage  which has just been allowed to take place on Dan Bank its a good opportunity for us all to ensure nothing like this ever happens again without consultation and negotiations with the people it concerns, so try and come along and hear if there is a chainsaw coming to your area soon  Undecided  LEST WE FORGET"

I have to say that by the time the 19th Feb comes along, there will be no trees left to save.

I drove down Dan Bank for the first time in ages yesterday, and was devastated by the wreckage down there.... It will never ever be the same.  It's a sin and a shame, and I wish I'd known about the meeting that has already happened.  I know that things have to change, you can't keep things identical for ever, but surely it could have been done more sympathetically...
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: certa cito on February 13, 2011, 03:09:00 PM
I have to say that by the time the 19th Feb comes along, there will be no trees left to save.

I drove down Dan Bank for the first time in ages yesterday, and was devastated by the wreckage down there.... It will never ever be the same.  It's a sin and a shame, and I wish I'd known about the meeting that has already happened.  I know that things have to change, you can't keep things identical for ever, but surely it could have been done more sympathetically...

As posted early in the thread Dan Bank has had the trees cut down before and it WILL recover but it may take a while. For the safety of people I would gladly cut down even more trees.

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Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on February 13, 2011, 04:38:16 PM
The work has not been undertaken for the safety of people.  The main piece of work has not even  started yet and that is to move the island down at the bottom of Dan Bank to allow heavy transport more ease of access.  If it was for safety of children walking to and from school why does it not come right up the bank to Hill Top and if we are worried about Offerton children, why are we not worried for the safety of all childred from Marple Hall.  I watch with horror as the children who go to Marple Hall  get of the bus opposite my house and try to cross Stockport Road.  I have requested a pedestrian crossing at the bus stop but have been informed that there is not enough money.  What I will although say is SMBC have played on child safety to get away with widening of the road for heavy goods vehicles and must all be patting themselves on the back that some people believed the hype.  My advice would be watch and learn the best is yet to come because the carnage will continue right down to the bottom of the bank  :-[
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: My login is Henrietta on February 13, 2011, 06:45:18 PM

As I drove down Dan Bank this morning, for the first time in several weeks, I saw for the first time the shamefull carnage that has taken place, those beautiful trees gone forever, at least for most of our lifetimes, was there no alternative?

Was consent required to fell those trees?

I know it's to late now!
I wondered when they were cutting down the trees on the other side of the road whether their removal may cause earth movement and compromise the road and the houses above the road? If that is likely then how much worse will it be with the latest chopping down? 


Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: admin on February 13, 2011, 06:58:33 PM
I wondered when they were cutting down the trees on the other side of the road whether their removal may cause earth movement and compromise the road and the houses above the road? If that is likely then how much worse will it be with the latest chopping down?

The tree removal on the far side of the road will have had no impact on the houses because they have put huge piles in to stop the road slipping down the bank. The tree removal on the same side as the houses perhap could but part of the work they are doing is "soil nailing" to prevent slippage of the bank on that side.

Just by chance Arthur Procter has sent some photos of the overnight works taken last night as they were carrying out some of this aspect of the works and I've put them on the Virtual Tour in the Dan Bank album just a moment ago:

http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/thumbnails.php?album=lastup&cat=-40
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: amazon on February 13, 2011, 08:23:15 PM
super photos again from aurthur .dont stay up to late now .Is the fence coming down after the work is done or staying . 
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: admin on February 14, 2011, 08:33:00 PM
Some more photos from Arthur, taken on Saturday during the daytime: http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/thumbnails.php?album=lastup&cat=-40
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: alan@romiley on February 20, 2011, 10:55:29 AM
Did any of the contributors to this thread, attend the special meeting with Councillors Bispham and Candler on Saturday Morning?
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on February 20, 2011, 06:54:12 PM
I was going to attend but sadly I am out of the country in Qatar   I would be interested  to hear what was said and what plans are now in force for future consultation with residents on any future tree felling in the area
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on February 24, 2011, 12:08:37 AM
Over heard a conversation in the dentist today where a couple of ladies were discussing the works and the destruction caused to Dan Bank .  One lady commented that SMBC had succeeded where Cromwell had failed in destroying Marple  :D NEVER A TRUER WORD SAID !!!!
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Concerned on February 24, 2011, 11:55:27 AM
I attended the meeting with the councillors and council representatives viz. Alex Bremners boss who is in overall charge of the works and the ecology/tree expert. Not as well attended as expected but those residents who expressed the concerns already voiced on this forum were listened to sympathetically. The noise levels for this present phase of works and the floodlighting have been unbearable during the last couple of weeks and we asked that the results shown on the noise monitoring equipment which is in my garden be made public. The council official seemed sympathetic and quite shocked that we felt we hadnt been kept informed and directed us to the newsletters and website as though we hadn't heard of them!
I hope that the points raised about the seemingly indescriminate removal of trees rather than actually marking them for removal - so that the public are made fully aware of what is happening - were taken on board as it looks like the same thing may happen on Compstall Brow. Apparently, due to the increase in traffic during the diversions, Compstall Brow is now collapsing into the valley at the side! The roads in the area are laid directly onto earth unlike modern road construction, so it is an ongoing problem. ( Longhurst Lane, Strines rd etc.) There was an outburst from someone who wished to remain unknown, although he was known to the councillors and the lady from the civic trust, to say he wholeheartedly approved of the removal of trees in the area and he wanted to thank the council and hoped they would continue their good work. His comments were not shared by the majority and indeed the councillors looked uncomfortable. I wonder why?
The residents on Dan Bank are being involved in the planting plan directly on the banking opposite their houses during a meeting next Monday; one triumph anyway.

Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on March 06, 2011, 12:07:01 AM
Noticed that the famer on Dan Bank has used his 30 pieces of silver to re roof his house  :-[
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Duke Fame on March 06, 2011, 09:28:43 AM
Noticed that the famer on Dan Bank has used his 30 pieces of silver to re roof his house  :-[

Can you prove what money he actually used to repair his roof?

If I had received the money, I'd have bought a sports car so a roof repair is fairly ecologically sound.

I think the residents have to be realistic about all this. If it's not done, the road subsides and homes will no doubt be damaged, I'm not exactly sure what the concerns are, is it just the fact you've lost a bit of folliage?
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Tina on March 06, 2011, 10:02:51 AM
Noticed that the famer on Dan Bank has used his 30 pieces of silver to re roof his house  :-[
IF the work being done is with his '30 pieces of silver' then Is it not better to use the money on home improvements?
You would soon kick off if you found out he went on holiday or got a sports car...   just a thought!'
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: amazon on March 06, 2011, 05:00:56 PM
If He Is Paying for it himself so what .don't make something out of it that you dont no.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on March 06, 2011, 06:15:06 PM
Noticed that the famer on Dan Bank has used his 30 pieces of silver to re roof his house  :-[

Can you prove what money he actually used to repair his roof?

If I had received the money, I'd have bought a sports car so a roof repair is fairly ecologically sound.

I think the residents have to be realistic about all this. If it's not done, the road subsides and homes will no doubt be damaged, I'm not exactly sure what the concerns are, is it just the fact you've lost a bit of folliage?
I take it your not a local  ???
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on March 06, 2011, 06:22:28 PM
Noticed that the Farmer on Dan Bank has used his 30 pieces of silver to re roof his House :-[
IF the work being done is with his '30 pieces of silver' then Is it not better to use the money on home improvements?
You would soon kick off if you found out he went on holiday or got a sports car...  just a thought!'

Oh no !!  He will need a new roof because when that wind blows down the valley his house will now take the full force of mother nature due to the missing trees that used to protect the farm house from the elements  :D
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: belleesummerbee on March 06, 2011, 09:19:09 PM
Noticed that the famer on Dan Bank has used his 30 pieces of silver to re roof his house  :-[

Now the wall has been pushed back i see an opportunity for an upgraded access followed by a Planning Application to convert the barns. 30 pieces of silver will look like lose change. Fill you boots
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: amazon on March 06, 2011, 09:23:09 PM
Noticed that the Farmer on Dan Bank has used his 30 pieces of silver to re roof his House :-[
IF the work being done is with his '30 pieces of silver' then Is it not better to use the money on home improvements?
You would soon kick off if you found out he went on holiday or got a sports car...  just a thought!'

Oh no !!  He will need a new roof because when that wind blows down the valley his house will now take the full force of mother nature due to the missing trees that used to protect the farm house from the element's :D
       

wont your house become a bit drafty now.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Duke Fame on March 06, 2011, 09:42:15 PM
Noticed that the famer on Dan Bank has used his 30 pieces of silver to re roof his house  :-[

Can you prove what money he actually used to repair his roof?

If I had received the money, I'd have bought a sports car so a roof repair is fairly ecologically sound.

I think the residents have to be realistic about all this. If it's not done, the road subsides and homes will no doubt be damaged, I'm not exactly sure what the concerns are, is it just the fact you've lost a bit of folliage?
I take it your not a local  ???


I'm not about to take the precious things but I do live in Marple now.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: bluebelly on March 08, 2011, 08:47:05 AM
drove up the other day could not belive what has happened.i go through romiley usually up compstall brow,please dont let this happen here. the trees in the different seasons bring so much colour , it would be tragic to lose them.the marple area is unique,lets keep it that way.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: badger on March 08, 2011, 12:52:03 PM
When driving up Dan Bank at weekend I couldn't help but look at the fabulous new look to the entrance to Marple, and thought this is an excellent and airy look it has been given rather than the old ivy strangled tatty trees, the new trees will complement the new look even further well done to all concerned,
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Barbara on March 08, 2011, 02:59:31 PM
Hear, hear!   :D
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: amazon on March 08, 2011, 03:50:54 PM
Sorry dont agree the trees on the right as you come down need some of them  removing they are higher than the road any strong winds they will be down across the road . busy road some one could be killed .few years ago one came down just missed a bus road blocked for hours  .
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Pink Panther on March 08, 2011, 03:59:41 PM
Sorry dont agree the trees on the left as you come down need some of them  removing they are higher than the road any strong winds they will be down across the road . busy road some one could be killed .few years ago one came down just missed a bus road blocked for hours  .

I was thinking the same thing the other day about some of the trees, the bank looks too steep for them trees to remain stable :(
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: belleesummerbee on March 08, 2011, 08:49:16 PM
Sorry don't agree the trees on the left as you come down need some of them  removing they are higher than the road any strong winds they will be down across the road . busy road some one could be killed .few years ago one came down just missed a bus road blocked for hours  .

Not sure of your logic, why will trees fall over in strong winds if they are on ground higher than the road?

The tree which fell across the road a number of years ago had a fungal infection which caused the root system to decay, that's why it failed not because it was on higher ground.

I would be more concerned that the trees which remain on both side of the road have lost the mutual protection afforded by the felled woodland edges. The large Beech tree located on the right when exiting Marple opposite Dan Bank (cul-de-sac) has also lost a large percentage of its root system to the realigned wall.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Victor M on March 09, 2011, 10:10:03 AM
Has this issue not got a bit clouded, what does everyone want? The one major road out of Marple made safe and remaining open or all the trees left in tack and the road closed, you can't have your cake and eat it!
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Duke Fame on March 09, 2011, 01:52:18 PM
Has this issue not got a bit clouded, what does everyone want? The one major road out of Marple made safe and remaining open or all the trees left in tack and the road closed, you can't have your cake and eat it!

I really think the whole moan-in has got out of hand. Yes, it's terrible that there are so many cars coming up & down the road but nobody wants to give up their car. If we need a car, we need a road, if we need a road, we need to have a clearing to make the road.

My neighbour but a few had a VOTE GREEN boaard outside his house during the election, the fella has two cars on his drive, how hypocritical is that!!!

For all the do-gooders around, they need to be practical.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: amazon on March 09, 2011, 02:19:43 PM
Sorry don't agree the trees on the left as you come down need some of them  removing they are higher than the road any strong winds they will be down across the road . busy road some one could be killed .few years ago one came down just missed a bus road blocked for hours  .

Not sure of your logic, why will trees fall over in strong winds if they are on ground higher than the road?

The tree which fell across the road a number of years ago had a fungal infection which caused the root system to decay, that's why it failed not because it was on higher ground.

I would be more concerned that the trees which remain on both side of the road have lost the mutual protection afforded by the felled woodland edges. The large Beech tree located on the right when exiting Marple opposite Dan Bank (cul-de-sac) has also lost a large percentage of its root system to the realigned wall.


    I am refering to compstall brow not dan bank .have a look if your coming down that way[ trees on the right as you come down .]would you fancy it in a gale ]

Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: belleesummerbee on March 09, 2011, 09:26:07 PM
 I am refering to compstall brow not dan bank .have a look if your coming down that way[ trees on the right as you come down .]would you fancy it in a gale ]

Compstall Brow or Dan Bank i still don't understand your logic. If we use your analogy, any tree on higher ground within falling distance of a target would have to be removed? Under their duty of care landowners need to ensure trees within their ownership are safe, better to remove those which are dead dying or dangerous (DDD) rather wholesale removal. We have experienced a large number of gales over the last few years the majority of those trees which have failed was due to their condition (DDD)
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: admin on March 17, 2011, 01:35:07 PM
DAN BANK CLOSURE – SUNDAY 20 MARCH

As you will be aware, final work to stabilise and improve Stockport Road at Dan Bank began on 31 January 2011 and was planned to be completed on 27 March 2011. It has been necessary during this work to close the road between 7pm and 6am every evening during, except on Sundays.

Over the past two days, the team working at Dan Bank has found a surface water drain that was not recorded on any maps; as such, they were not able to plan the necessary work with this drain location in mind. So that work can finish on the original expected date of 27 March, it is now necessary that Stockport Road at Dan Bank is closed between 7pm and 6am on Sunday 20 March.

Electronic signs will be placed on the approaches to Dan Bank to let those travelling in the area know that the road will be closed on Sunday.  Community Access Points, as well as buses that travel along Stockport Road at Dan Bank, will be given posters to display.

Stockport Council would like to thank those who live or work near to Dan Bank and all those who regularly travel along Stockport Road for their patience during these important works. As they continue, we will send further updates to let you know how the works are progressing.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: admin on March 18, 2011, 05:54:21 PM
The re-planting of Dan Bank will commence on Monday 21st March and continue over the next few weeks as the site is progressively released for planting by the main contractor. Read more about it and follow the progress on Myers Tree Care's web site:

http://www.myerstreecare.co.uk/danbank.html
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: My login is Henrietta on March 19, 2011, 08:23:42 PM
Noticed that the famer on Dan Bank has used his 30 pieces of silver to re roof his house  :-[
He is entitled to do as he pleases with his own money. And anyway, I understand that he didn't have much choice in the matter. If he'd refused to accept the money the job would have gone ahead anyway.

The Dan Bank problem has been maundering on since just before the war so it's probably about time something was done. There was a report in, I think, 1938 (?) that said the road was in imminent danger of collapsing into the river.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: admin on March 23, 2011, 07:30:31 PM
First pictures of the tree planting on Dan Bank are now on-line on Myers Tree Care's web site: http://www.myerstreecare.co.uk/danbank.html
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: moorendman on March 24, 2011, 08:29:15 AM
Can anyone confirm with certainty the earliest date we can escape directly from Marple using this route after 7.00 pm??
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: admin on March 25, 2011, 05:35:06 PM
Just received an update that confirms the road WILL be closed Sunday night 7pm until 6am Monday morning.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on March 26, 2011, 10:40:32 AM
After 18 months of trying to sell my house I have now moved off Stockport road so sadly may not now wittiness first hand the tens of thousands who will be cycling past my house once the track is completed Shame !   Only problem is where I live now in Marple I have just seen men in yellow jackets and hard hats inspecting the trees next to my new house !!
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: David Myers on March 26, 2011, 05:45:53 PM
Such a shame you will be sadly missed by one and all  :-*
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on March 26, 2011, 06:03:03 PM
Awh !! cheers Dave, I will miss you too  :-* mwah!
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: amazon on March 27, 2011, 03:36:30 PM
After 18 months of trying to sell my house I have now moved off Stockport road so sadly may not now wittiness first hand the tens of thousands who will be cycling past my house once the track is completed Shame !   Only problem is where I live now in Marple I have just seen men in yellow jackets and hard hats inspecting the trees next to my new house !!
              Never buy a house next to trees .
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Jay on March 28, 2011, 11:38:08 AM
I've seen the new state of the art cycle lane on Dan Bank. It starts at the bottom for about 6 foot then ends, then it continues at the top for about 20 foot and, yep you guessed it, it ends! Whats that all about?  ???
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: David Myers on March 28, 2011, 04:19:33 PM
That is actually for access and egress from the pavement / cycle path onto the road and has yet to be painted green (i believe)
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Barbara on March 28, 2011, 04:47:16 PM
I can't comment on the cycle path, but have just travelled down Dan Bank and have to say it is beginning to look very good indeed.  I shall be interested to watch the various trees and other plantings maturing.   :D
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: David Myers on March 29, 2011, 09:03:15 PM
Having completed the planting yesterday, over 1600 trees, all we need is a little time and like yourself, people will hopefully appreciate all the proactive work we have done on behalf of smbc. We will be irrigating tomorrow and now it's also been hydroseeded it will soon be very green.  :)
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on March 29, 2011, 09:26:09 PM
What bulbs have you planted ?
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: David Myers on March 29, 2011, 10:02:37 PM
Light bulbs :)
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Belly on March 29, 2011, 10:08:05 PM
I can't comment on the cycle path, but have just travelled down Dan Bank and have to say it is beginning to look very good indeed.  I shall be interested to watch the various trees and other plantings maturing.   :D

I agree. I like the new look. I quite like being able to see the sky!

But then again, I'm bound to like it as I'm a highway engineer by trade.... (not working for the council I may add).
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on March 29, 2011, 10:14:56 PM
Light bulbs :)
Oh your such a card Dave !   I will have to ask SMBC is that what you mean ?
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: amazon on March 30, 2011, 04:33:57 PM
Having completed the planting yesterday, over 1600 trees, all we need is a little time and like yourself, people will hopefully appreciate all the proactive work we have done on behalf of smbc. We will be irrigating tomorrow and now it's also been hydroseeded it will soon be very green.  :)

 Dave you have done exellent job it looks very good indeed .
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on March 30, 2011, 07:02:56 PM
Does anyone know what's happening to the trees on Dooley Lane ? :'(
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: admin on March 30, 2011, 07:07:39 PM
I think it looks good too and will soon look much better. Every time I pass those big stumps though I think what a shame they weren't left tall for someone like Andrew Frost to work his magic on them. I think that would have been a really positive thing to do and would have enhanced the gateway to Marple. Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing :'(
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on March 30, 2011, 08:31:52 PM
I think it looks good too and will soon look much better. Every time I pass those big stumps though I think what a shame they weren't left tall for someone like Andrew Frost to work his magic on them. I think that would have been a really positive thing to do and would have enhanced the gateway to Marple. Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing :'(
That was a request made but appears not to have been acted on such was the haste to cut them down by SMBC
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: amazon on March 30, 2011, 08:56:39 PM
I can't comment on the cycle path, but have just travelled down Dan Bank and have to say it is beginning to look very good indeed.  I shall be interested to watch the various trees and other plantings maturing.   :D

I agree. I like the new look. I quite like being able to see the sky!

But then again, I'm bound to like it as I'm a highway engineer by trade.... (not working for the council I may add).
                 Never seen so many stars  at night since i banged me head on me mothers mangle  :D 
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: David Myers on March 30, 2011, 09:28:19 PM
Having completed the planting yesterday, over 1600 trees, all we need is a little time and like yourself, people will hopefully appreciate all the proactive work we have done on behalf of smbc. We will be irrigating tomorrow and now it's also been hydroseeded it will soon be very green.  :)

 Dave you have done excellent job it looks very good indeed .
Many thanks Mr amazon, great to have just a little recognition for the positive work that's been done, it will look better still when we plant adjacent to the properties later this week, some large yews and hollies to go in.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Tina on March 30, 2011, 10:56:07 PM
I think its looking really good, even better now the big fence is coming down. I know it was shocking when all the trees came down and I like your thinking Mark that the tree stumps could of been made into a feature, its a shame it didn't happen. But the end result will look great, it looks so much brighter :)
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: bluebelly on March 31, 2011, 07:37:27 AM
must admit as the work continues, have changed my mind.in time to come it will be a fantastic entrance into marple.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Pink Panther on March 31, 2011, 08:16:26 AM
At first I thought it could never look nice, and that it was so sad that all those beautiful trees had come down  ( it still is )

BUT ... now I think its looking great :)

The new  trees wont take long to establish themselves,  someone was jogging up the new pavement, its so much safer for everyone .

Its a good thing , and I like how it has turned out .
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: David Myers on March 31, 2011, 04:55:38 PM
At first I thought it could never look nice, and that it was so sad that all those beautiful trees had come down  ( it still is )

BUT ... now I think its looking great :)

The new  trees wont take long to establish themselves,  someone was jogging up the new pavement, its so much safer for everyone .

Its a good thing , and I like how it has turned out .
I took quite a few pics today of the planting and already the leaves are coming out to play on the new trees, also there is a large patch of the Blue Bells at the bottom end coming into bloom. They should be uploaded later onto our website and are alos on my Facebook page, im so happy to the the Blue Bells and trees coming into leave as it softens the blow so much. :)
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on March 31, 2011, 08:27:36 PM
Will you plant me a few bulbs Dave  :'(
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: David Myers on March 31, 2011, 08:46:10 PM
I've got some 50 watt and some 75 watt bulbs left, I personally would prefer 25 watt bulbs as they will produce much less glare for the passing cyclist and motorist. :)
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on March 31, 2011, 09:32:13 PM
Hey Dave if planting bulbs is to high tec for you may I suggest you grid a few stumps , preferably  on Dan Bank  ;D
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: alison on March 31, 2011, 09:52:21 PM
Blimey, spring has definitely arrived, no whinging, compliments, jokes - what's come over you all? ;)

I think Dan Bank is looking much better, and once the new trees and flowers have time to settle its going to be great (its also quite nice to not have to put my headlights on to enter Marple in the daytime, and quite comforting to think that the likelihood of the road collapsing is lessened!)

Well done Myers, and all involved on the work done

Alison
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on March 31, 2011, 10:10:22 PM
I've got some 50 watt and some 75 watt bulbs left, I personally would prefer 25 watt bulbs as they will produce much less glare for the passing cyclist and motorist. :)
Hi Dave, if planting bulbs is too high tec for you,  may I suggest you grind a few stumps, preferably on Dan Bank  :D
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: David Myers on March 31, 2011, 11:03:46 PM
Blimey, spring has definitely arrived, no whinging, compliments, jokes - what's come over you all? ;)

I think Dan Bank is looking much better, and once the new trees and flowers have time to settle its going to be great (its also quite nice to not have to put my headlights on to enter Marple in the daytime, and quite comforting to think that the likelihood of the road collapsing is lessened!)

Well done Myers, and all involved on the work done

Alison
Many thanks, just glad and proud that we are involved in the project and that its kept local!
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: David Myers on March 31, 2011, 11:07:55 PM
I've got some 50 watt and some 75 watt bulbs left, I personally would prefer 25 watt bulbs as they will produce much less glare for the passing cyclist and motorist. :)
Hi Dave, if planting bulbs is too high tec for you,  may I suggest you grind a few stumps, preferably on Dan Bank  :D
I would love to, but due to the steep bank we would not be able to undertake grinding as it would overide all health and safety legislation.  These will rot in time and provide shelter for host for insects etc every wooded area should have a large amount of dead wood for this very reason.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on April 01, 2011, 10:43:31 AM
I've got some 50 watt and some 75 watt bulbs left, I personally would prefer 25 watt bulbs as they will produce much less glare for the passing cyclist and motorist. :)
Hi Dave, if planting bulbs is too high tec for you,  may I suggest you grind a few stumps, preferably on Dan Bank  :D
I would love to, but due to the steep bank we would not be able to undertake grinding as it would overide all health and safety legislation.  These will rot in time and provide shelter for host for insects etc every wooded area should have a large amount of dead wood for this very reason.
With all the tree felling in Marple would I be correct in thinking arachnophobia and the like will be the next film shot here  ;)
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: David Myers on April 01, 2011, 11:09:24 AM
I've got some 50 watt and some 75 watt bulbs left, I personally would prefer 25 watt bulbs as they will produce much less glare for the passing cyclist and motorist. :)
Hi Dave, if planting bulbs is too high tec for you,  may I suggest you grind a few stumps, preferably on Dan Bank  :D
I would love to, but due to the steep bank we would not be able to undertake grinding as it would overide all health and safety legislation.  These will rot in time and provide shelter for host for insects etc every wooded area should have a large amount of dead wood for this very reason.
With all the tree felling in Marple would I be correct in thinking arachnophobia and the like will be the next film shot here  ;)
Apparently the council is in talks with an american film company to agree some test shot locations throughout the village for a film they propose to produce and is based on the subject of the excecution of Charles 1st.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: admin on April 01, 2011, 04:36:17 PM
I took quite a few pics today of the planting and already the leaves are coming out to play on the new trees, also there is a large patch of the Blue Bells at the bottom end coming into bloom. They should be uploaded later onto our website and are alos on my Facebook page, im so happy to the the Blue Bells and trees coming into leave as it softens the blow so much. :)

Thank goodness it's gone 12 now :o

The photographs mentioned by Mr Myers several wise-cracks back have now been uploaded to the Myers Tree Care web site at: www.myerstreecare.co.uk/danbank.html
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: David Myers on April 01, 2011, 05:11:29 PM
I took quite a few pics today of the planting and already the leaves are coming out to play on the new trees, also there is a large patch of the Blue Bells at the bottom end coming into bloom. They should be uploaded later onto our website and are alos on my Facebook page, im so happy to the the Blue Bells and trees coming into leave as it softens the blow so much. :)

Thank goodness it's gone 12 now :o

The photographs mentioned by Mr Myers several wise-cracks back have now been uploaded to the Myers Tree Care web site at: www.myerstreecare.co.uk/danbank.html
Everyday should be April 1st!! its such fun. My birthday tomorrow, but sure I was born on the 1st!!!!!!
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on April 02, 2011, 06:41:11 PM
Coming home at around 3.30 am this morning i saw another dead badger in the road near traffic lights at bottom of Dan Bank.   This the second dead badger I have seen more or less at the same spot within the past 4 weeks!  I have now gone past caring what Dan Bank looks like and just want it all to be over with as the noise and lights most be disorientating to wild life placing them at high risk of injury / death  :'(
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: alison on April 02, 2011, 08:18:37 PM
Not sure there is a connection really - I used to drive through the country every day, and used to see loads of dead stuff around this time of the year, especially badgers, I think they just get a death wish!
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on April 03, 2011, 01:04:00 PM
Not sure there is a connection really - I used to drive through the country every day, and used to see loads of dead stuff around this time of the year, especially badgers, I think they just get a death wish!

You may be right ! But two badgers in the same spot tells me that they are unfamiliar with their route due to the road works!  On my late nights out I am always seeing the badgers cross at a certain point at the bottom of Dan Bank where now unfortunately the road widening has begun!  There are spot lights on all night and very heavy plant machinery all in the road, the noise is deafening.  So whilst I agree in some part with you, I am although aware that disorientation will have paid a major part in their demise
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: belleesummerbee on April 04, 2011, 03:43:41 PM
Not sure i can join in with the general acceptance of the replacement planting landscape scheme, but this is not a reflection of the quality of works. In a multi million pound scheme we should remember that the cost of the plant material and planting will have probable cost less than 0.2% of the overall project. Larger sized plant material and greater numbers should have been used, even taking into consideration the practical problems of establishment. May be DM could also retrieve the original planting on the left when exiting Marple; with the majority of the plant matrial fastened to their individual supports with wire ties. Unfortunately where engineers are involved the green stuff is either an irrelevance or comes last on the list
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on April 04, 2011, 05:52:23 PM
Not sure i can join in with the general acceptance of the replacement planting landscape scheme, but this is not a reflection of the quality of works. In a multi million pound scheme we should remember that the cost of the plant material and planting will have probable cost less than 0.2% of the overall project. Larger sized plant material and greater numbers should have been used, even taking into consideration the practical problems of establishment. May be DM could also retrieve the original planting on the left when exiting Marple; with the majority of the plant matrial fastened to their individual supports with wire ties. Unfortunately where engineers are involved the green stuff is either an irrelevance or comes last on the list
I agree entirely !  I am amazed at how small the trees/ bushes are and remain at a loss as to how anyone can comment on how well it looks !   I do not hold Mr Myers responsible as he can only work with what he's got, but it's a poor replacement for what we have lost !
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Victor M on April 04, 2011, 06:49:12 PM
I would not get so worried about the size of samplings planted. A number of years ago a similar planting exercise took place on Strines Road, although not as large a site as Dan Bank. Within a couple of years the saplings were quite mature and I would be surprised if anyone can now tell the difference. Also it needs to be remembered that planting larger specimens is not only more expensive it is also less successfull in the long term with a high percentage of the larger specimens dying off.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: amazon on April 04, 2011, 08:49:16 PM
its done its finished so not a lot you can do about it its a great improvement .Compstall brow next we hope .
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: belleesummerbee on April 05, 2011, 11:35:46 AM
I would not get so worried about the size of samplings planted. A number of years ago a similar planting exercise took place on Strines Road, although not as large a site as Dan Bank. Within a couple of years the saplings were quite mature and I would be surprised if anyone can now tell the difference. Also it needs to be remembered that planting larger specimens is not only more expensive it is also less successfull in the long term with a high percentage of the larger specimens dying off.

I assume you are comparing the planting which extends along the grass strip between Strines Road/Lower Strines Road. From my recollection which is always a dangerous thing the plant material in size was in keeping with an average landscape scheme; the numbers were certainly more significant than Dan Bank as can be seen from the results on site at present which are in desperate need to be thinned out to allow the better long term specimens to flourish. The point i was trying to make was landscaping is normally the poor relation in a large scale engineering project. As for larger specimens dying off this percentage can be negligible if the species choice is correct, site preparation is professionally carried out, and a maintenance programme is implemented. DM are you carrying out the maintenance or will this be down to SMBC for the next 3-5 years?
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: David Myers on April 05, 2011, 10:15:43 PM
I would not get so worried about the size of samplings planted. A number of years ago a similar planting exercise took place on Strines Road, although not as large a site as Dan Bank. Within a couple of years the saplings were quite mature and I would be surprised if anyone can now tell the difference. Also it needs to be remembered that planting larger specimens is not only more expensive it is also less successfull in the long term with a high percentage of the larger specimens dying off.

I assume you are comparing the planting which extends along the grass strip between Strines Road/Lower Strines Road. From my recollection which is always a dangerous thing the plant material in size was in keeping with an average landscape scheme; the numbers were certainly more significant than Dan Bank as can be seen from the results on site at present which are in desperate need to be thinned out to allow the better long term specimens to flourish. The point i was trying to make was landscaping is normally the poor relation in a large scale engineering project. As for larger specimens dying off this percentage can be negligible if the species choice is correct, site preparation is professionally carried out, and a maintenance programme is implemented. DM are you carrying out the maintenance or will this be down to SMBC for the next 3-5 years?
Strines 1st, the planting scheme there was undertaken by smbc and the actual numbers were far less than db, regards thinning, yes they are in need of that and its always the practice to over plant at the start of a scheme so the best can be retained for the future and the later being removed to allow this. Dan Bank 2nd, the species that were planted are native and were chosen by the relevant tree officers, yes there will be a percentage that will fail and given the difficulty of covering the steep sections with fresh soil, we have found that areas are a little thin for replanting, this however will be a short term problem, as natural regeneration will take over were we have left off.  Regards the maintenance, smbc will be responsible for the care for these trees, which will involve watering and tie adjustment etc, we may be asked to undertake this or it may be dealt with internally.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Harry on April 06, 2011, 09:29:29 PM
Does anybody know why the work seems to have halted on Dan Bank?

The pavement is not finished. The access to Dan Bank from Stockport Road is not completed. The lower half of the new wall still has no 'top' stones on it. The pavement/cycle track has no markings. And the junction with Dooley Lane is an absolute nightmare, with queues going back to the Spread Eagle and further, not just at rush hour but even on a Sunday afternoon.

But I've not seen any progress in the last two weeks. Certainly the junction has had nothing done at all.

Have all the workers gone home?
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on April 06, 2011, 10:37:35 PM
No they most defiantly have not !  They are still working throughout the night and the compound is still in full swing on Stockport Road also during the night  Could be that it's the new financial year and monies in last years pot is spent, hence the slowing down.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Harry on April 07, 2011, 03:48:39 PM
I thought they worked at night because that was the least disruptive time for closing the road. I can't think of any reason to be working at night with the road open. They could work during the day and not need to spend money on lights.

If they are still working, how come there appears to have been no progress in the last 10 days?
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: David Myers on April 07, 2011, 09:36:58 PM
I thought they worked at night because that was the least disruptive time for closing the road. I can't think of any reason to be working at night with the road open. They could work during the day and not need to spend money on lights.

If they are still working, how come there appears to have been no progress in the last 10 days?
I believe that the plan is to complete the remaining surfacing, top stones etc by Easter. There was a rumour that there was a shortage of coping stones at the quarry, but they have had enough notice to make the order!
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: rotten john on April 07, 2011, 11:29:45 PM
could they not have cut some of them superb animals into the stumps of the big trees they cut down ?,like that lovely owl at compstall or the squirrel at h/grove tip ?,i remeber some wonderfull big ogres cut out of trees at wythenshaw park............?
would have looked amazing as you drove up the hill into marple
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: admin on April 08, 2011, 07:07:43 AM
would have looked amazing as you drove up the hill into marple

You're right RJ, I mentioned this a few posts back - I'll be glad when the stumps are masked by the undergrowth and I can stop thinking about it every time I pass through - a missed opportunity.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: marpudlian on April 08, 2011, 08:06:19 PM
Hello this is my first post.  :) I have been following this topic for a while so wanted to add my views.

The main road is actually still Stockport Road, Dan bank is a small cul-de-sac at the top of the hill.  ;D

I welcomed the idea of a cycle track up the hill but this does not appear to be what we have been given. Yes the pavement is a couple of foot wider which is good, but the huge cost of the works does not seem justified. It was also a shame to lose so many trees in the process, if they were removed to stabilise the road then fair enough but otherwise it seems unnecessary.

Also while I understand why the road had to be closed overnight, 7pm was very early to close the road, perhaps 9pm would have caused less disruption.   
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on April 13, 2011, 06:46:38 PM
Nothing much seems to be happening now and the traffic is dreadful coming into Marple from Dooley Lane.  I was in the Hare and Hounds this afternoon and dreaded the battle I faced trying to join the traffic to come back into Marple.  Does anyone know what the hold up is on the road works as the whole lot is supposed to be finished before Easter and that includes moving and re planting the compound.  Can not really see that happening can you or does Mr Myers know if and when he is re planting the compound?
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Tricky on April 13, 2011, 07:01:40 PM
I pass through most nights (often around midnight) - and every night since Stockport Road has been re-opened there has been work taking place at the junction..

Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Basementlife on April 14, 2011, 09:34:17 AM
Details of the work on the Dooley Lane junction can be found at...http://www.u-to-us.com/danbank/default.asp?pageid=4&groupid=4

From which...
"We are improving this busy junction by making the following changes to Dooley Lane where it joins Stockport Road. The main elements of the scheme are:

    * To provide a full two lane approach for vehicles.
    * To widen the footpath to 2 metres.
    * To introduce traffic light controlled crossing facilities to make it safer for pedestrians and providing dropped kerbs and tactile paving.
    * To lengthen the left turn lane for traffic turning left from Dooley Lane into Stockport Road
    * To upgrade the signal equipment and controller

This work is wholly funded by Stockport Council."

The junction diagram on the website shows that the turn into Dooley Lane from Dan Bank will be/ is now tighter, with the traffic island there.

Having come back from Romiley twice this past week, 'Dad's Taxi Service plc.,at 11pm., the works are no great inconvenience at that time, apart from the powerful lights illuminating the works. My symparthy for those having to crawl along Dooley Lane during the day.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: TSF on April 15, 2011, 11:19:26 PM
its done  :)its finished so not a lot you can do about it its a great improvement .Compstall brow next we hope . dan bank looking really good, smbc please look at compstall brow soon ???
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Harry on April 16, 2011, 01:03:47 PM
its done  :)its finished

It certainly isn't finished. There's still quite a bit to do, especially at the Dooley Lane / Stockport Road junction.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: amazon on April 16, 2011, 01:48:02 PM
sorry not finished as such . i meant to say youcant go back whats done is done .
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on April 19, 2011, 09:50:14 PM
Noticed driving up Dan Bank today that a couple of newly planted larger trees have started to go brown!  Now ! I'm no gardener or tree expert but in this dry weather shouldn't they be watered regularly when newly planted and in dry weather ?
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: admin on April 23, 2011, 06:50:03 AM
In April 2009 Arthur Procter took some photos on Dan Bank showing it on a glorious spring day and earlier this year he sent them to me. Rather than publish them while the work was going on in February, which I thought would unfairly fan the flames, I asked Arthur to take some comparison shots at the same time this year.

Arthur did that earlier this week and both sets of images have now been added to the Dan Bank / Dooley Lane album on the Virtual Tour. I thought it would also be good to reproduce them side by side here. In each case the 2009 photos are on the left and 2011 on the right.

I've asked Arthur to take the same shots this time next year, which will give another interesting comparison.

(http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/albums/uploads/new/dan-bank/Danbank-position-1-april-2009.jpg) (http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/albums/uploads/new/dan-bank/Danbank-position-1-april-2011.jpg)

(http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/albums/uploads/new/dan-bank/Danbank-position-2-april-2009.jpg) (http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/albums/uploads/new/dan-bank/Danbank-position-2-april-2011.jpg)

(http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/albums/uploads/new/dan-bank/Danbank-position-3-april-2009.jpg) (http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/albums/uploads/new/dan-bank/Danbank-position-3-april-2011.jpg)

Here's the link to the Dan Bank album on the Virtual Tour:
http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/thumbnails.php?album=lastup&cat=-40
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Pink Panther on April 23, 2011, 09:14:23 AM
I honestly think it looks much better, and originally I never thought I would say that , I like the wall, the pavement is much safer, the trees will soon grow, and the old stumps will be hidden by new growth.

I like it :)
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: admin on April 23, 2011, 12:08:14 PM
...the pavement is much safer....

Arthur has asked me to point out that when he was taking the latest photos he was nearly knocked over by a cyclist going DOWNHILL on the path at around 30 mph!

It's a bit of a concern if cyclists are now going to use the pavement to go downhill as well as up. Coming up their speed is unlikely to be dangerous to pedestrians but going down is a completely different matter.

That concern aside, I must agree with what you say PP.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Pink Panther on April 24, 2011, 09:01:31 AM
Hmmm yes, I see your point about cyclists ...... see me being me ... wouldn't attempt it on a bike, knowing that i have to get back up the hill .... and me and hills and bicycles ... are not a marriage made in heaven , but that's another story ( which involved my friend Pinot Grigio)     ::)
 ;)
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on April 26, 2011, 10:28:11 PM
Can Mr Myers tell me if the large fir tree which has been planted at the bottom of Dan Bank is dying as it has gone very brown at the ends?  If it has is there any chance of getting a replacement from SMBC as I had visions of that tree having lights on at Christmas when it got larger.  I thought that it was in a perfect location to light up at Christmas  ???
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: David Myers on April 28, 2011, 09:48:35 AM
Yes it has been scorched by the sun, many of the Yews and Hollies are suffering which is due to the bank being South facing and combined with the lack of rain it has taken its tole on the planted stock.  We have undertaken 3 watering operations to help the trees establish as per SMBC's instructions, with each operation 4000 litres were used.  Once a full season has passed, im sure replacements will be planted ::)
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: My login is Henrietta on April 28, 2011, 01:25:56 PM
Hello this is my first post.  :) I have been following this topic for a while so wanted to add my views.

The main road is actually still Stockport Road, Dan bank is a small cul-de-sac at the top of the hill.  ;D
I think you will find that Stockport Rd/Dan Bank was called Dan Bank long before the cul de sac and the houses thereon where thought of. The (c18thcentury?) farm overlooking the road is called Higher Dan Bank Farm which suggests that there may have been another, similarly named farm in the vicinity.

The houses on the cul-de-sac were built in my father's lifetime. (He came to Marple as a six year old so was a new-comer, as a friend informed him shortly before he died, aged nearly 80!). He told me that the main road was called Dan Bank long before he came to the village (as it was then). It is more likely that the cul-de-sac was called Dan Bank after the main road as a convenient name, rather than the main road being named after the cul-de-sac.
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: JMC on May 07, 2011, 04:43:24 PM
I miss seeing all the trees in their arch. I also am worried about the pavement being used for cyclists. This struck me as being very dangerous if they are going downhill!
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on May 07, 2011, 05:54:08 PM
Yes it has been scorched by the sun, many of the Yews and Hollies are suffering which is due to the bank being South facing and combined with the lack of rain it has taken its tole on the planted stock.  We have undertaken 3 watering operations to help the trees establish as per SMBC's instructions, with each operation 4000 litres were used.  Once a full season has passed, im sure replacements will be planted ::)
. Blimey!!!    I was hoping to see them in full bloom during my life time.  If the flipping things keep dying a death each year and having to be replanted, would it not be a better idea to replant more established trees / srubs.   I noticed that the palm tree at the Hilton which was flown in from Spain is still alive and kicking even though it's hundreds of feet in the air and exposed to winds and extreme weather  :-\
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: David Myers on May 07, 2011, 06:30:02 PM
Yes it has been scorched by the sun, many of the Yews and Hollies are suffering which is due to the bank being South facing and combined with the lack of rain it has taken its tole on the planted stock.  We have undertaken 3 watering operations to help the trees establish as per SMBC's instructions, with each operation 4000 litres were used.  Once a full season has passed, im sure replacements will be planted ::)
. Blimey!!!    I was hoping to see them in full bloom during my life time.  If the flipping things keep dying a death each year and having to be replanted, would it not be a better idea to replant more established trees / srubs.   I noticed that the palm tree at the Hilton which was flown in from Spain is still alive and kicking even though it's hundreds of feet in the air and exposed to winds and extreme weather  :-\
Well there are many factors to consider and a lot comes down to the allocated budget which I must be diplomatic about and state only facts that I know.  More established trees are very expensive and have a high rate of failure, the palm on the hilton will of cost many more thousands of pounds to import and install, and with that in mind is more likely to survive. We have had a very dry period and as already stated it will and has had a serious effect on the trees.  Lets hope for lots of rain to help establish the trees that have been planted. 8)
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Duke Fame on May 07, 2011, 11:54:05 PM
Well there are many factors to consider and a lot comes down to the allocated budget which I must be diplomatic about and state only facts that I know.  More established trees are very expensive and have a high rate of failure, the palm on the hilton will of cost many more thousands of pounds to import and install, and with that in mind is more likely to survive. We have had a very dry period and as already stated it will and has had a serious effect on the trees.  Lets hope for lots of rain to help establish the trees that have been planted. 8)

I appreciate that, I think the trees should be planted at as little a cost as possible, our taxes are already far too high
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Lisa Oldham on May 09, 2011, 07:54:17 AM
They won't die a death each year!! 

We've had a very dry and very warm spring which was unexpected and VERY unusual! Trees and shrubs are usually planted at this time surely so they can establish themselves and get a decent root system in the wet but not too cold spring!

Once they've been in the ground a few months with decent rainfall they're generally ok and would have survived through the summer.  Sorry if I'm stating the obvious but......

Its a shame but JUST one of those things. Had a good look on way up the other day and most of them seem ok to me!
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on May 14, 2011, 10:18:18 PM
Well it's certainly rained !  But I can see no evidence of the intended RAIN forest !  I can although see LOTS of dead trees ! 
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: RAY NOBLE on May 21, 2011, 02:53:34 PM
I have just driven up Dan Bank in the sunshine and it looks as good now as it ever did, even better.  Ray
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: Miss Marple on July 08, 2011, 07:59:21 PM
Just as a matter of intrest does anybody know what the 2 ft  flowers that are growing all over the banking are ?  I think it may have looked more aesthetically pleasing if they had been intermingled with other species and colours. Just a thought  :-\
Title: Re: Widening of Dan Bank
Post by: rotten john on July 26, 2011, 10:03:00 PM
theres a big sunflower growing there now aswell as tall poppies looks great now,still missing the carved animals on the stumps though :(