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Title: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: jogger on October 15, 2010, 10:29:51 AM: It doesn't look like we will be getting "BT Infinity" new super fast broadband in the near future.

But if you cast your vote on the link below it might speed the process up,for us to get it.

http://www.racetoinfinity.bt.com/
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: alan@marple on October 15, 2010, 01:00:39 PM: Thanks for the info-I've voted now
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: amazon on October 15, 2010, 02:58:01 PM: Quote from: alan@marple on October 15, 2010, 01:00:39 PM
Thanks for the info-I've voted now

Virgin media will be the first in this area .
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: Neil Smith on October 15, 2010, 10:56:36 PM: With VM you are never more than about 300m from a fibre link that is why they can now give you faster BB as for BT its the closer the hub (next to the fire station) the faster your BB. Its the same for any other provider eg talk talk as they just rent the space of BT.
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: amazon on October 16, 2010, 03:39:42 PM: So Why not change to virgin media its a super service been with them since it was cabled in the area
allso on free calls with them , but dont use them for tv .
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: alan@marple on October 16, 2010, 05:20:45 PM: Well I can't have the luxury of a choice, there is only BT in the Lockside Area, it's not cabled
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: Dave on October 16, 2010, 07:04:51 PM: Same here - it's BT or nothing where we are. I've just voted and discovered that so far there have been only 20 votes from Marple, out of about 10,500 altogether. Come on everyone, let's make an effort ;D
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: jogger on October 18, 2010, 11:56:32 AM: Neil when we eventually get "BT Infinity" in our exchange area,they will put in a brand new fibre infrastructure in the area,which every cabinet(the green boxies you see dotted about) will have a "D Slam" near it, which will have a direct feed from Marple exchange.

I am part of a team working on this project across the North West, I'll try and find out what the number of votes casted we need for our area.
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: amazon on October 18, 2010, 07:54:31 PM: Quote from: Dave on October 16, 2010, 07:04:51 PM
Same here - it's BT or nothing where we are. I've just voted and discovered that so far there have been only 20 votes from Marple, out of about 10,500 altogether. Come on everyone, let's make an effort ;D
ICant vote for you its for bt customers only it wont let me . acount no etc surly this is not right i should be able to vote if i want i might need to change from virgin media .
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: Jo Scarlett on October 18, 2010, 10:23:10 PM: I managed to vote and I'm not a BT customer and haven't been for years! Try again........... :-)
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: amazon on October 18, 2010, 10:34:04 PM: Thanks let me do it tonight .vote no 27 it says good luck hope you manage to have bt infinity installed inthe area .
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: Mr Marple on October 19, 2010, 12:45:14 AM: Here's a link for the Infinity subject

http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/consumerProducts/displayTopic.do?topicId=29017&s_cid=con_FURL_infinity

After clicking or pasting the above link go to the "When we're planning to come to your area here" and that will show date information on where and when Infinity will be in the Stockport and surrounding areas.

Hope it helps you.
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: jogger on October 19, 2010, 08:33:21 AM: Heaton Moor, Didsbury,Wilmslow,Denton are up and running now, Stepping Hill is being worked on as we speak, we are putting the spine in from Stepping Hill exchange to Stockport exchange.

Once that's in you will see all the new D slams appearing in that area.

I've seen up to Phase 6,(2012) let me just say it's really important we get as many people to vote to hurry up the process.
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: mcfc on October 28, 2010, 11:33:40 AM: Quote from: jogger on October 15, 2010, 10:29:51 AM
It doesn't look like we will be getting "BT Infinity" new super fast broadband in the near future.

But if you cast your vote on the link below it might speed the process up,for us to get it.

http://www.racetoinfinity.bt.com/

thanks for link. done
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: Dave on October 31, 2010, 04:56:35 PM: Come on everybody, make this your 'new month resolution!' ;D
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: Lisa Oldham on October 31, 2010, 11:30:51 PM: Ive done it too :) though not sure its going to help considering we are only on 48 votes!!
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: Mr Marple on November 03, 2010, 11:04:47 AM: Voted.
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: jogger on March 17, 2011, 10:21:16 AM: Hot off the press, they have just started planning the spine for BT Infinity for Marple, it will be fed from Woodley exchange.

So it won't be long before it's available to us.
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: Dave on March 17, 2011, 11:47:12 AM: Great news - we must have raised more votes than we thought! :D
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: jogger on April 19, 2011, 12:04:03 PM: September 2011 :D
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: alfred on October 02, 2011, 04:24:21 PM: I have just typed my Mellor (Church Road) postcode into the Cable.co.uk website which perports to give updated fibre availability.

It says that fibre is available NOW from, BT and Plusnet including BT infinity.
Interesting since as far as I am aware there has been no cable lying in our area and tha (copper) cable TV network stops 300yards short of Church Road. Never mind the fibre.

Anyone have any comments?
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: amazon on October 02, 2011, 04:27:59 PM: Quote from: alfred on October 02, 2011, 04:24:21 PM
I have just typed my Mellor (Church Road) postcode into the Cable.co.uk website which perports to give updated fibre availability.

It says that fibre is available NOW from, BT and Plusnet including BT infinity.
Interesting since as far as I am aware there has been no cable lying in our area and tha (copper) cable TV network stops 300yards short of Church Road. Never mind the fibre.

Anyone have any comments?
Lot of work going on lower fold marple bridge area new boxes cables .etc even working today sun .
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: My login is Henrietta on October 06, 2011, 12:12:13 AM: Quote from: amazon on October 16, 2010, 03:39:42 PM
So Why not change to virgin media its a super service been with them since it was cabled in the area
allso on free calls with them , but dont use them for tv .
Ok until you have a complaint. Then you can forget it.
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: jogger on October 06, 2011, 01:51:43 PM: Quick update, not been on here for a while.

The main spine which comes from Woodley exchange to Marple exchange and ends at New Mills and onto Hayfield is more or less in, waiting on civils in a couple of places(but no big deal)

You mentined Church rd, the fibre is into the Cabinets near the college and the one near the Pineapple pub.

You will start noticing new "D slams" (green cabinets) springing up near existing ones, these are the fibre feeds.

Won't make any rash statements as to when it will be all up and running, but watch this space..

Any questions I will gladly answer if I can.
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: Dave on October 06, 2011, 04:37:00 PM: This is probably a stupid question but I'm going to ask anyway. ::) Our landline and broadband are now with O2. Will anyone with an ADSL (phone landline) broadband connection benefit from it, or is it just BT customers? And presumably it doesn't apply to cable connections?
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: tonyjones on October 06, 2011, 08:11:01 PM: I find the installation of BT infinity very intriguing !
It says on the BT web site;

We'll need to plug in your fibre modem into the master phone socket so please make sure you have two power sockets available next to it – if you don't, please have a power extension cable available.

Our BT land line is via an overhead cable from a telegraph pole so does this mean that they will either install on overhead fibre optic cable, or dig up the road and my garden to install an underground fibre optic cable.

As Jogger has posted, they have been istalling a lot of fibre optic cable, certainly around Station road but the nearest green cabinet (D slam - whatever that stands for !) is well over 100 yards away..

Apart from all that - the speed of my link to the Marple website is very good.
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: Miss Marple on October 06, 2011, 09:11:41 PM: Is it as faster than all the others, I have been told it's not but hope it is because I am sick of my provider
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: jogger on October 06, 2011, 09:36:15 PM: Dave BT Infinity is for BT customers.

Tony The fibre from the exchange goes direct to the "D Slam( digital subscriber line access multiplexer).that's where the fibre stops the rest is copper wire to your home via a drop wire or a UG feed. If you think it's fast enough now, it will be twice as fast, work colleagues who live in Denton where it's up and running are getting close to 40 meg.

If you already have broadband there is no need to worry about sockets etc because you already have them near your existing modem

Broughton exchange area was completed recently and now they have started doing fibre to premise, which means you will get fibre direct into your home via a fibre drop wire or fibre UG feed..
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: tonyjones on October 06, 2011, 10:22:18 PM: The speed of the link may be 40meg but I doubt that anyone will get any great improvement in transfer speeds, much of which is limited by the information provider.

It's a bit like increasing the speed limit on the road between Stockport and Marple to 70 mph. You are limited by how many cars can actually travel along the road and how fast they can get on and off the road.
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: sgk on October 06, 2011, 10:37:34 PM: Quote from: tonyjones on October 06, 2011, 10:22:18 PM
The speed of the link may be 40meg but I doubt that anyone will get any great improvement in transfer speeds, much of which is limited by the information provider.

It's a bit like increasing the speed limit on the road between Stockport and Marple to 70 mph. You are limited by how many cars can actually travel along the road and how fast they can get on and off the road.

A friend in Hyde went for BT Infinity, he posted the resulting speed summary, as below

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1313688140.png)

By comparison, I'm on Virgin(NTL) cable modem, "Broadband size: L" package, Marple Bridge.

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1520810514.png)

Test your own connection using http://www.speedtest.net/ (http://www.speedtest.net/). See what packages are available on your postcode at http://www.cable.co.uk (http://www.cable.co.uk) or http://www.samknows.com/broadband/broadband_checker (http://www.samknows.com/broadband/broadband_checker). Both indicate that Virgin 100Mb/s package is available in Marple + Marple Bridge.
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: Howard on October 06, 2011, 10:53:25 PM: I tested mine and it came out to:
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1520838087.png)

I'm on the Virgin 50Mb service.
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: amazon on October 07, 2011, 05:03:14 PM: Quote from: jogger on October 06, 2011, 01:51:43 PM
Quick update, not been on here for a while.

The main spine which comes from Woodley exchange to Marple exchange and ends at New Mills and onto Hayfield is more or less in, waiting on civils in a couple of places(but no big deal)

You mentined Church rd, the fibre is into the Cabinets near the college and the one near the Pineapple pub.

You will start noticing new "D slams" (green cabinets) springing up near existing ones, these are the fibre feeds.

Won't make any rash statements as to when it will be all up and running, but watch this space..

Any questions I will gladly answer if I can.

one just gone in top Compstall road .near Glossop road
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: alfred on October 08, 2011, 01:05:42 AM: So from what you are all saying Plusnet and Cable.co.uk are both pemature, fibre is not yet available in our area.

Presumably if they are putting cable in on Compstall Road and Lower Fold they are on their way from Woodley Exchange towards Marple Exchange. I assume that when the Exchange is connected they will start distributing from there.

This might sound a nieve question but can I assume that if and when I am connected to fibre I will also get the phone down the fibre?
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: Howard on October 08, 2011, 09:41:42 AM: I don't know whether you still need you copper line for your voice line; I suspect so. However, if you have a decent enough broadband connection (say 10Mb or above) you could use a VOIP (voice over IP) service such as Vonage. You get a box which plugs into your router and then your phones plug into that box. All calls are routed overt the Internet. The basic price is £5.99 per month, around half that of BT or Virginmedia.
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: alfred on October 09, 2011, 04:58:15 PM: Do I assume Howard that your Virgin system comes via the cable network?

I am rather suspicious about VOIP. Do VOIP users get all the services a fixed line gets? For instance incoming calls from both fixed and mobile networks, 1471 and 1571 services, 086 numbers etc. Also how do these calls affect the broadband speed they must have an effect on bandwidth?

Anyway its all "pie in the sky"n for me because we only have a bog-standard phone line here. The cable network stops about 500 yards short of our house. So I am stuck with my 3.5 Meg download speed at the moment.
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: admin on October 09, 2011, 05:15:00 PM: I have Vonage VOIP service using a 10Mb Virgin Cable Connection. 1471 works but I never use it because the Vonage unit logs all calls and you can just scroll through the missed, made etc.

Incoming calls from landlines or mobiles are just the same as normal.

I don't know what the 1571 service is (it doesn't appear to do anything on the Vonage phone) and I don't know if it will ring 086 numbers (what are they for? ).

When Mrs Admin is on the phone (a lot) and me on t'Internet (a lot) there appears to be no bandwidth issues whatsoever.
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: Howard on October 09, 2011, 05:42:32 PM: Quote from: alfred on October 09, 2011, 04:58:15 PM
Do I assume Howard that your Virgin system comes via the cable network?

I am rather suspicious about VOIP. Do VOIP users get all the services a fixed line gets? For instance incoming calls from both fixed and mobile networks, 1471 and 1571 services, 086 numbers etc. Also how do these calls affect the broadband speed they must have an effect on bandwidth?

Anyway its all "pie in the sky"n for me because we only have a bog-standard phone line here. The cable network stops about 500 yards short of our house. So I am stuck with my 3.5 Meg download speed at the moment.

I am seriously considering "cutting the cord" and going with a VOIP connection instead of my voice line which I get through Virgin media. Several people I know do have Vonage and have no complaints about it. My biggest concern is every having to dial 999 and finding out that my broadband has gone off even though my Virgin broadband has only ever gone off twice in 11 years so there is no reason to think why the reliability wouldn't be great.

There are other VOIP providers but Vonage seem to be the one that most domestic users have. As far as I can see from all the FAQs on the Vonage site (http://www.vonage.co.uk/how-vonage-works/faqs/ (http://www.vonage.co.uk/how-vonage-works/faqs/)) all the standard stuff like 1471 and voicemail is included.

I also see that it does work over ADSL although there's no minimum speed stipulated. However, considering that voice services such as Skype run perfectly over fairly low bandwidth connections there's no reason to think that even a 1Mb ADSL connection would not be OK. If you're technical then you could even set up something called QoS (Quality of Service) if you have a decent router which guarantees priority to VOIP traffic.
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: Smithy166 on October 10, 2011, 03:25:54 PM: It seems BT are "kicking it up a notch" and are planning to offer 300Mb/s broadband, which they will role out in spring next year.
I'm on a virgin media "medium" package, which I belive is 2mb/s? I wouldn't recommend virgin though, there support is lousy, and the internet and TV have a disturbing habit of shutting down even when the word rain is mentioned, let alone when it actually rains!
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: tonyjones on October 10, 2011, 04:43:30 PM: At first I though Capt B.H.Smith was having a laugh, but he is correct. BT do plan to offer 300Mb/s but this will entail installing fibre optic cable to the house, for which I assume there will be a cost.

Most modern PCs have a wired network connection from their home hub which has a speed of 100Mb/s, with the wireless connection being somewhat slower.

My own view is that unless you are doing a lot of downloading the standard link of upto 8Mb/s is adequate. Some serious users and game players may benefit from the 30Mb/s infinity but you must be a REALLY serious user to want a 300Mb/s link.

Also bear in mind that while the 'speed' of the link between your house and the exchange (or whatever) may be 300Mb/s the 'transfer rate' will be significantly lower.
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: sgk on November 04, 2011, 09:46:14 AM: For comparison, here's the speed I'm getting on my Virgin 100mbit package, in Marple Bridge.

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1572744897.png) (http://www.speedtest.net/result/1572744897.png)
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: jogger on February 06, 2012, 04:17:09 PM: Quick update
The last section of fibre will be blown in tomorrow in Marple Bridge,that means the "spine" will be in place.

So it won't be long before it will be available, still waiting for Cab 11 on Hollins Lane to go up though. :'(
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: amazon on February 06, 2012, 04:53:47 PM: Quote from: jogger on February 06, 2012, 04:17:09 PM
Quick update
The last section of fibre will be blown in tomorrow in Marple Bridge,that means the "spine" will be in place.

So it won't be long before it will be available, still waiting for Cab 11 on Hollins Lane to go up though. :'(

virgin media upgrading all there speeds as well .
Title: Re: BT Infinity in Marple
Post by: amazon on February 08, 2012, 05:09:16 PM: Quote from: jogger on February 06, 2012, 04:17:09 PM
Quick update
The last section of fibre will be blown in tomorrow in Marple Bridge,that means the "spine" will be in place.

So it won't be long before it will be available, still waiting for Cab 11 on Hollins Lane to go up though. :'(

They were cabling corner Glossop road today facing Widsor castle . Near there new box .