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Title: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: Victor M on September 24, 2010, 02:14:17 PM
I have just received a flyer from the council announcing the imminent delivery of my new Black Wheelie Bin. This will make my dustbin obsolete. Does anyone know how we can all recycle our old dustbins! Or do we all have troop down to Hazel Grove or Bedbury tip and put them in landfill?
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: amazon on September 25, 2010, 03:40:42 PM
On The Stockpot mbc website their is a video ex planning how to use the new food waste disposable bin
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: Neil Smith on September 25, 2010, 05:41:47 PM
On The Stockpot mbc website their is a video ex planning how to use the new food waste disposable bin


I trialed these a while ago and in my opinion they are a waste of money, you take your none recyclables (bones cooked and uncooked food) and but them in this "caddy" then into your normal bin :o
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: Neil Smith on September 25, 2010, 06:07:14 PM
On The Stockpot mbc website their is a video ex planning how to use the new food waste disposable bin


I trialed these a while ago and in my opinion they are a waste of money, you take your none recyclables (bones cooked and uncooked food) and but them in this "caddy" then into your normal bin :o

I eat my words, I have just found the info on the new caddy http://www.stockport.gov.uk/services/environment/rubbishwasterecycling/recyclingcollection/changescollections?view=Standard  and you put the bag in the green bin unlike the trial, so yes it could be a good idea.

I have also found the size of the new black bin will be 140L (the blue and brown bins are 180L) hopefully it will be big enough. I do a lot of recycling but also have a baby that goes through nappies like nobodies business ::)
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: Lisa Oldham on September 26, 2010, 01:49:53 PM
oh.. Havent had any info through door yet but checked website and they are changing frequency of collections for bottles/tins/plastics to once every 4 weeks! With 6 and often 7 people in my house 2 home based businessses 2 cats and a dog ( and 300 stick insects :D ) I often fill both my recycling bins within 2 weeks so not sure how I will manage! Hope they dont change the paper one as well!
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: Barbara on September 27, 2010, 09:36:34 AM
Suggest you and the kids jump up and down a bit harder on the tins and plastics to flatten them!!  Cheers, Lisa -
Barbara   ;D
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: alison on September 27, 2010, 09:18:11 PM
oh I'm really looking forward to having four dobbing great wheelies bins on the driveway of my small terraced house which has been 'deemed suitable' for wheelie bins by the good people of Stckport council. And having my property blocked by even more wheelies than normal once the collectors have randomly dumped bins in the street, usually right across the end of my drive, after emptying, rather than putting them back where they found them. Its so nice that the council have taken the differing needs of residents into account when introducing this new measure.

Still, I guess I could charge the neighbours a nominal fee for using the spare space in my ridiculously overlarge brown and green bins, the only one that ever gets anywhere near full is the blue one, and only then when I forget to wheel it out on collection day

 ::)
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: sooty2 on September 28, 2010, 11:02:56 AM
Plus the "Maggot Farm" for food waste!
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: Deniseam on September 28, 2010, 07:44:26 PM
Good opportunity to start up a business making wheelie bin sheds or selling those delightful leafy covers!
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: amazon on September 29, 2010, 02:25:07 PM
Article on the Manchester evening news website about the new collection of bins in stockport .should be fun .

Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: Dave on September 29, 2010, 03:33:18 PM
It's front page news in today's Stockport Express.   How sad is that!  ::)
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: sgk on September 29, 2010, 08:32:18 PM
It's front page news in today's Stockport Express.   How sad is that!  ::)

Top story on their website too :
http://menmedia.co.uk/stockportexpress/news/s/1333143_new_bins_in_stockport_will_be_collected_fortnightly (http://menmedia.co.uk/stockportexpress/news/s/1333143_new_bins_in_stockport_will_be_collected_fortnightly)
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: Jay on September 30, 2010, 01:50:14 PM
Not sure how this one will work, currently on a Monday there are 4 to 5 blue or brown bins out beside my house from myself and neighbours, now according to the recycling calender there will be 12 to 15 blue, brown and black bins out on some Mondays. I'd like to see the people collecting these bins to see them having to move and jiggle them round to get to the ones they want to empty. Or will they just leave them behind because there not accessable?
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: Miss Marple on September 30, 2010, 11:41:08 PM
I think we should ask for a reduction in our community charge for separating and sorting the recycling stuff out into these bins.  All our inconvenience of having five bins is a nonsense it is just a cost cutting exercise by the government under the guise of saving the planet to save them the expense of sending it in bulk to a recycling sorting centre.   :o
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: Neil Smith on October 02, 2010, 12:59:11 PM
I think we should ask for a reduction in our community charge for separating and sorting the recycling stuff out into these bins.  All our inconvenience of having five bins is a nonsense it is just a cost cutting exercise by the government under the guise of saving the planet to save them the expense of sending it in bulk to a recycling sorting centre.   :o

I do not see how it will save the government any money as if they did it your way your council tax would just go up or a few hospitals would close etc.

I don't see what the trouble is with these bins, (yes ok if you live in a terrace and have no where to store them) but come on people I find it EASIER to do than the bin bags.
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: Dave on October 02, 2010, 03:11:55 PM
it is just a cost cutting exercise by the government

What's wrong with that?   Government money is our money - if they are trying to spend less of it we should be grateful!   ;D
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: Neil Smith on October 02, 2010, 03:25:05 PM
it is just a cost cutting exercise by the government

What's wrong with that?   Government money is our money - if they are trying to spend less of it we should be grateful!   ;D

Big thumbs up Dave.
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: Miss Marple on October 05, 2010, 06:41:09 PM
The bins are a nonsense costing around £80.00 each,which means I have the equivalent of £400.00 pounds worth of plastic in my garden alone x the country is one hell of a lot of money  The amount of non environmentally friendly toxins which have been released into the atmosphere to produce millions of these man made bins, coupled with the additional bin collection days undertaken in diesel polluting dustbin lorries must defeat the point  :-\ or am I missing the point or am I a realist in not believing the hype?
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: Dave on October 05, 2010, 08:29:46 PM
it is just a cost cutting exercise by the government
The bins are a nonsense costing around £80.00 each,which means I have the equivalent of £400.00 pounds worth of plastic in my garden alone x the country is one hell of a lot of money

Ok, Miss M, so which is it: a cost cutting exercise or an outrageous extravagance?   ;D
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: Neil Smith on October 05, 2010, 10:20:12 PM
it is just a cost cutting exercise by the government
The bins are a nonsense costing around £80.00 each,which means I have the equivalent of £400.00 pounds worth of plastic in my garden alone x the country is one hell of a lot of money

Ok, Miss M, so which is it: a cost cutting exercise or an outrageous extravagance?   ;D

Its OK Dave some people must look forward to swimming in our own filth when land fill space runs out. ::)
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: Miss Marple on October 05, 2010, 10:35:46 PM
Hey fellow environmentalists ! How about one bin, one collection day and one sorting centre  ??? that's how its done in most countries  Now that's environmentally friendly isn't it  :-\ Who mentioned land fill ??
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: Tricky on October 05, 2010, 10:38:30 PM
Why do you think the council are paying £80 per wheelie bin Miss Marple?

I found them significantly cheaper (without even trying) via google..

and they will get them cheaper still by bulk buying..

Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: Miss Marple on October 05, 2010, 11:00:37 PM
Why do you think the council are paying £80 per wheelie bin Miss Marple?

I found them significantly cheaper (without even trying) via google.. 

and they will get them cheaper still by bulk buying..


I know you and I would but we are taking about the council  :P Just think Seventeen Windows  :o
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: alison on October 06, 2010, 08:58:24 AM
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Just think Seventeen Windows

Oh good grief!  ::)
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: Tricky on October 06, 2010, 09:58:03 AM
haha - I think we all thought it Alison!

Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: Barbara on October 06, 2010, 10:40:41 AM
Thought that sticky topic would have to rear its ugly head!!  >:(
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: alison on October 06, 2010, 11:55:28 AM
Just ignore it, it might go away

 ;)
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: admin on October 06, 2010, 05:46:38 PM
The bins are a nonsense costing around £80.00..........

Miss Marple - can I ask the question again - why do you think the bins cost £80 - do you know that for as fact or is it supposition? The article linked below suggests that 215,000 bins have cost £7M, which sounds a lot but is only £32 per bin. Do you have insider knowledge that shows this to be wrong?

http://menmedia.co.uk/stockportexpress/news/s/1121141_new_bins_are_rolling_out_across_borough
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: sooty2 on October 06, 2010, 06:57:16 PM
Yes recycling bins are a lot less expensive these days due to bulk buying as the whole country is swamped by these ugly garish things. Over 4 years ago the place I used to live was one of the first to have green garden bins and black cans/bottles containers. I was told then by a council employee that the garden bins cost nearly  £80. I was photographed by a photorapher putting tins into my container for the council newspaper,but when it went to print it showed a mother and child doing the same.Also some of the new bins are a lot smaller and should be less expensive. £Seven Million !!! just for Stockport, dread to think what the national figure is :(
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: Barbara on October 06, 2010, 08:42:31 PM
Well at least the badgers won't be able to tear the bins open like they can the blue bags!   :D
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: My login is Henrietta on October 06, 2010, 08:48:34 PM
I have just received a flyer from the council announcing the imminent delivery of my new Black Wheelie Bin. This will make my dustbin obsolete. Does anyone know how we can all recycle our old dustbins! Or do we all have troop down to Hazel Grove or Bedbury tip and put them in landfill?
I propose to drill holes in the bottom of my redundant bin and grow something in it.

Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: Victor M on October 06, 2010, 08:56:26 PM
I started this topic off as being a bit "tongue in cheek" asking how can I recycle my now, or soon to be redundant, dustbin. But it has got side tracked over price of wheelie bins. I am sure the council got the bins for the best price possible and I must admit before the bins arrived I thought I was pretty good at recycling. However I will be the first to admit since the bins came I now recycle more, especially cardboard and cans.
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: Miss Marple on October 06, 2010, 10:38:37 PM
The bins are a nonsense costing around £80.00..........

Miss Marple - can I ask the question again - why do you think the bins cost £80 - do you know that for as fact or is it supposition? The article linked below suggests that 215,000 bins have cost £7M, which sounds a lot but is only £32 per bin. Do you have insider knowledge that shows this to be wrong?

http://menmedia.co.uk/stockportexpress/news/s/1121141_new_bins_are_rolling_out_across_borough
  I was informed that the green bins when first rolled out were nearly £80.00 each. Like Sooty 2 says they are purchased now in bulk so maybe cheaper   But lets not forget the blue,black and brown bins are half the size of the green bins so the same size bin in today's money would possibly be £64.00 + vat  :-\
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: amazon on October 07, 2010, 11:18:03 AM
I started this topic off as being a bit "tongue in cheek" asking how can I recycle my now, or soon to be redundant, dustbin. But it has got side tracked over price of wheelie bins. I am sure the council got the bins for the best price possible and I must admit before the bins arrived I thought I was pretty good at recycling. However I will be the first to admit since the bins came I now recycle more, especially cardboard and cans.

           Good for forcing rubarb .the old bins .
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: Cyberman on October 07, 2010, 01:26:46 PM
To answer the original question, I e-mailed Stockport Council about this recently, asking whether I had to take the old bin to the tip or if they would collect it. Here is their answer...

"Both of the options that you stated are available, we will be collecting bins and to arrange this please call us on 0161 217 6111 but only after your new black bin has been delivered, alternatively you can dispose of the bin at the nearest tip."

So there you have it. Having driven past our nearest tip (Torkington Rd) on a recent Saturday and seen the mega queue of cars there, I'll be getting the council to collect.
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: Jay on October 07, 2010, 02:04:37 PM
If you think about it on wasted council tax money, Why did the council pay for every household in Marple and Marple Bridge to have a letter sent to them with a collection calender then have a council worker walk round the same route as the post delivering information on what you can put in the bins?  ??? clearly someone within departments isn't communicating!
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: Neil Smith on October 07, 2010, 06:13:43 PM
If you think about it on wasted council tax money, Why did the council pay for every household in Marple and Marple Bridge to have a letter sent to them with a collection calender then have a council worker walk round the same route as the post delivering information on what you can put in the bins?  ??? clearly someone within departments isn't communicating!

I bet its not different departments or even different rooms, in truly SMBC style I bet its 2 people sitting next to each other ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: My login is Henrietta on October 10, 2010, 01:07:34 PM
I have to say I am generally very impressed with the local refuse arrangements. However I'm disappointed in the size of the black un-recyclable waste bins considering the fortnightly collections. I own a house in Tameside where the black bins are twice the size yet even the most diligent waste sorters still find themselves having to ram down the contents to get stuff in towards the end of the two week period much to the annoyance of the bin men.

Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: My login is Henrietta on October 10, 2010, 01:18:55 PM
I think we should ask for a reduction in our community charge for separating and sorting the recycling stuff out into these bins.  All our inconvenience of having five bins is a nonsense it is just a cost cutting exercise by the government under the guise of saving the planet to save them the expense of sending it in bulk to a recycling sorting centre.   :o
Nothing to do with the government. EU regs, I believe. Don't think it saves much money but the theory is sound.

Sadly though a lot of the stuff we sort for recycling ends up in the far east being "reclaimed" in unsuitable conditions by poor workers whose health is adversely affected by the very metals and poisons that the British recycling policy is supposed to keep out of  the environment. Still, if it's not OUR children who are being poisoned, what the hell.
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: Neil Smith on October 10, 2010, 05:11:22 PM
I hear the council has run out of bags for the little green bin. I have seen first hand THREE properties have been double delivered too, YES that's correct 1 house has been left 2 black bins 2 little green bins and a 2 rolls of bags. I have seen this while out and about working in Marple and Romiley so what will have happened in the rest of Stockport :o :o
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: amazon on October 11, 2010, 03:09:31 PM
i Have been left too Black bins one small caddy no bags will i be having another green bin to put the caddy in we dont have a green bin for garden rubbish told properties not suitable yet we have bins for household rubbish .
                       Your comments please .
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: alison on October 14, 2010, 09:06:20 AM
Well my four bins are now lined up in front of the house completely in the way.  There is a note from the council explaining the compostable liners situation which doesn't appear to be their fault. I have given up trying to get some sense out of the council, but I do have the following observations, be interested for a councillors response.....

- The Green bin is ridiculously large for my size of property. When the council negotiated the contract they made a blanket decision to order only 240? litre size green bins, mine will never be full. The recycling trucks can deal with the slimmer bins and in my opinion they should have offered these as an option, particularly where your house has been 'deemed suitable' for wheelie bins but is struggling for storage space.

- The 'blurb' says that in trials, residents used an average of 3 compostable liners a week, residents have been/ will be provided with a roll of 100 liners and will have to buy any additional ones only from the approved supplier. So in effect the average household is going to have to pay extra on top of the existing council tax for the new service.

- My neighbour is a bin man, and he mentioned last night that whilst they have been out delivering the bins they have been getting loads of abuse from the Stockport residents. We might not be thrilled with what's going on, but its not the council workers fault so hardly right to hurl abuse at them.

Right, said my piece, I'll climb back down off my soapbox!

Alison
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: Harry on October 14, 2010, 11:43:10 AM
According to the 'blurb' I received, and the Council website, we will receive a roll of 150 bags per year. That, they claim, is enough for the 'average' family.
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: badger on October 14, 2010, 02:08:25 PM
Several years ago I was deemed not suitable for the green bin so wasn't offered one, but when the blue and brown ones appeared they were put in my drive which has only enough room for my car, so I complained that there was no room to house them (this was in June, they moved them in September)after they had blown over on my car twice.
I explained that they wouldn't wheel round the back as there is a 70 odd metre stretch of lime stone
gravel and two steep ramps which are dangerous and slippy when wet or icy.The council say in there opinion my property is suitable, I say its not and refused to have the new black one but had to give assurance that I would take my own refuse to the tip.The little green bin for outside they'll let me have, so I'm waiting to see how long it takes to collect this time. I asked who would be responsible if injured myself while wheeling the bin round the back but didn't get an answere.
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: Neil Smith on October 14, 2010, 04:35:38 PM

- My neighbour is a bin man, and he mentioned last night that whilst they have been out delivering the bins they have been getting loads of abuse from the Stockport residents. We might not be thrilled with what's going on, but its not the council workers fault so hardly right to hurl abuse at them.


I agree nobody should take the kind of abuse people get but if you have tried to get into touch with SMBC and just been fobbed off the bin men our a face of the council people will rant at. 
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: Deniseam on October 28, 2010, 11:29:21 AM
Anyone had their supply of bags for the small green box yet?  Our first collection is on Monday. 
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: amazon on October 28, 2010, 11:51:26 AM
no .still nothing to put the caddy into either [ Marple Bridge area ]
Title: Re: Recycling Dustbins
Post by: alison on October 28, 2010, 11:39:02 PM
Taken from Stockport Councils's surprisingly informative website today

Q. I've still not received my roll of compostable liners, when will they be delivered?
A.
We apologise that you have not received your roll of compostable liners, this was due to a supply issue which has now been resolved.

Liners are being delivered from Saturday 30th October to Friday 5th November.
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There is also information about what else you can line the bin with, the delays with the green bins etc. Full link here

http://www.stockport.gov.uk/services/environment/rubbishwasterecycling/recyclingcollection/changescollections

Hope this helps

Alison