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Archive => Archived Boards => Local Issues => Topic started by: admin on April 05, 2010, 06:23:53 AM
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I understand that Rose Hill Tip is closed for development / improvements. Does anyone know how long it is expected to be closed? I can't find anything useful on the council web site about it.
I did post some links to copies of the plans way back in 2007 but they don't work any more. If I remember correctly you will be able to drive around the back and tip from above (if they haven't changed them since then).
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It was open as normal today.
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They've moved the clothes recycling to behind the workmens shed. Lets hope any improvements don't lead to them organise it like Hazel Grove tip. One long line of cars waiting for ages to tip stuff one at a time.
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It was open as normal today.
Great - my neighbour told me it was closed for a month! Presumably he was wrong then? Have I jumped to the wrong conclusion?
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The tip will be closed FOR SEVERAL MONTHS. I asked one of the workmen a few weeks ago. I mentioned it seemed silly making all the tarmac improvements (parking etc.) at the front of the tip when heavy lorries would be involved in the new build. He informed me the tip has nothing to do with Stockport Council, but is operated by Greater Manchester Waste hence the lack of co-ordination. Several buildings inside the tip (around the perimeter) will be demolished and a ramp for cars with a throw-in tip is to be constructed. Best plans always slip, but I thought he told me it would close in April sometime.
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Interesting! Your tip off led me to find Greater Manchester Waste's own web site where it says:
"From the 30th March 2010 works will start on the Household Waste Recycling Centre at Rose Hill in Marple. The site will remain fully operational and at this time there will be no disruption to householders using the facility."
Pretty confusing eh!
http://www.gmwda.gov.uk/recycle-for-stockport.htm
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I have just spoken to the site supervisor at Rose Hill tip. The site was originally going to close at the beginning of April, but to allow Bredbury to prepare for additional traffic, Rose Hill will now close on May 4th i.e. after the Bank Holiday. I was informed it will be closed for 7 MONTHS. Remedial (safe) work has already started around the perimeter.
I mentioned it would be useful to have a sign informing users of the impending closure. He agreed (I'm not sure if this will be followed up though). He did say that during re-development, the site will be manned to tell people how to get to other tips.
(There were initial plans to keep the site open during re-development, but a decision was made that this was too risky).
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Mark, further to my post, I have just had this email reply from the site you posted.
"Hello, Regarding the HWRC at Rose Hill in Marple the date of closure is 10th May 2010 and is due to re-open 10th Jan 2011 but Bredbury HWRC’s opening date, 1st May 2010, as alternative facility to use instead of Rose hill."
So, May 4th, May 10th, sometime in May, but it will be closing and for an extensive period!!!!
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This has been dreadfully communicated. Here's a good post by Michael Taylor on his blog "The Marple Leaf" about the role of local authorities and how they might communicate with local users of their facilities: http://themarpleleaf.blogspot.com/2010/04/marple-tip-closing-for-while-who-knows.html (http://themarpleleaf.blogspot.com/2010/04/marple-tip-closing-for-while-who-knows.html)
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Does any one know when is opening or is it open .and any information about he road works starting
in marple ,
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It is scheduled to re-open in January 2011
http://www.stockport.gov.uk/services/environment/rubbishwasterecycling/recyclingcollection/householdwasterecyclingcentres
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good god . Thanks for that .
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good god . Thanks for that .
Last time I looked Glossop was closed as well and a colleague tells me that at Stalybridge you have to be able to prove residence in Tameside before they will let you in!
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dont know nothing about having to prove you live in stalybridge to use the tip (will found out today because i need to go)...
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you should still be able to use Bredbury or Adswood without any problems
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dont know nothing about having to prove you live in stalybridge to use the tip (will found out today because i need to go)...
A couple of weeks back they apparently had someone at the gates asking for addresses - supposedly for a "survey of users" but in fact a colleague who lives in Glossop (Glossop tip closed) who gave her real address was sent packing!
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I doubt that you would be turned away if you were a Greater Manchester resident, as all the GM authorities waste sites (bar Wigan) are under the same contract. But if you were a Derbyshire resident using a GM site, they may well turn you away.
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PRESS RELEASE:
Following significant redevelopment Rosehill Household Waste Recycling Centre (HWRC) will be reopening to the public from 8am on Tuesday 21st December 2010.
This is great news for local residents who will have the benefit of a new and improved service ahead of schedule and in time for the festive season.
Together with the other HWRC’s in Stockport, including Bredbury, which was redeveloped earlier in the year, and Adswood where redevelopments are planned in early 2011, the Rosehill centre will offer improved facilities and allow better waste separation for up to 21 different material types ranging from garden waste, cardboard, small and large electrical items, tyres, fridges and textiles to maximise recycling levels.
Site efficiency will be improved with the introduction of working on two-levels, separating operational and public vehicles, making traffic movement through the facility easier. The queuing capacity will be increased on-site to reduce off-site queuing on Railway Road.
Following the closure of Torkington Road Household Waste Recycling Centre in early 2011, the following centres will be available to residents:
· Bredbury Parkway, Bredbury, SK6 2SN.
· Adswood Road, Adswood, Stockport, SK8 5QY.
· Rosehill, Railway Road, Marple, Stockport, SK6 6HU.
The completion of the site will also mark the closure of, Torkington Road HWRC.
To allow for residents who use the Torkington Road facility to become familiar with the NEW Rose Hill facility and so that we can continue to provide ample capacity over the busy festive period the Torkington Road facility will permanently close from 6pm on Monday 10th January 2011. Site users will be redirected to the NEW Rose Hill Facility.
The Torkington Road facility is not able to accommodate such redevelopment that Rose Hill has undergone due to its size.
Significant investment has therefore been made in the Rose Hill facility to provide a much improved and modern facility for the Stockport’s residents. In addition Stockport Council has also increased the capacity for removing recycling and waste materials from resident’s homes by 71.5%, giving residents even more capacity to recycle on their doorstep.
Following a consultation earlier this year, Stockport Council is undertaking a review of the redevelopment of the Torkington site in accordance with the planning brief details of which will be issued in the New Year.
For more information on recycling and waste across Greater Manchester visit www.recycleforgreatermanchester.com
For more information on recycling and waste in Stockport visit Stockport Council’s dedicated webpage www.stockport,gov.uk/waste
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I've received the following update from one of our local councillors :(
We advised at Area Committee meetings this week that Rose Hill Household Waste Recycling Centre (HWRC) was expected to reopen on Tuesday 21st December, unfortunately the freezing weather has meant that they have been unable to lay tarmac to finish the site.
Rose Hill Household Waste Recycling Centre will not now reopen until January 2011.
We will advise further when we have a confirmed opening date.
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Latest news I've received is that Rosehill HWRC (Tip) will be open to the general public at 08.00 hrs on Tuesday 18th January 2011.
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Where is it? I've got loads of black bin liners which weren't taken last week to dump. .
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Railway Road.
Turn left just after The Railway Pub on the way out of Marple (opposite the Spar on Stockport Road)
Admin
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Such a shame no one thought to utilise rail Freight at Rose Hill Station as part of the re-designed Rose Hill Recycling Centre.... we could have stopped some of those heavy lorries destroying Dan Bank.
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Such a shame no one thought to utilise rail Freight at Rose Hill Station as part of the re-designed Rose Hill Recycling Centre.... we could have stopped some of those heavy lorries destroying Dan Bank.
To sensible that, and Bredbury having a rail head to. ::) ::)
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I would imagine that it would probably take 6-8 weeks or more to get enough waste to generate a decent trainload. That would be a lot of storage at Rose Hill! Currently there are only about 4 or 5 trains a week serving Bredbury to the final disposal place and those trains have already been 'on the loop' to Salford, Oldham Road and Wytehnshawe (i.e. taking pretty much all GM's black bin waste).
I also suspect that a lot of the recyclables collected at RoseHill (i.e. most of the waste) goes elsewhere anyway.
Such a shame no one thought to utilise rail Freight at Rose Hill Station as part of the re-designed Rose Hill Recycling Centre.... we could have stopped some of those heavy lorries destroying Dan Bank.
To sensible that, and Bredbury having a rail head to. ::) ::)
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If the train has already been on a loop, would it not make sense to "extend" the loop, just to take the lorries of the road. I can not see a problem with this as most things went by rail in the past anyway......
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IF you Can obtain a copy of Railway magazine for DEC 2010 .[Loation page 53 ]it shows you the Binliner train as they call it Manchester to Roxby lincolnshire .the one they show was taken august 2007
the one now used . has much larger wagons so i think it might be a problem at rose hill . it calls at Bredbury .Dean lane and northenden .still to the roxby landfill site at Lincolnshire .
H :)ope this info is usefull .
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I would imagine that it would probably take 6-8 weeks or more to get enough waste to generate a decent trainload. That would be a lot of storage at Rose Hill! Currently there are only about 4 or 5 trains a week serving Bredbury to the final disposal place and those trains have already been 'on the loop' to Salford, Oldham Road and Wytehnshawe (i.e. taking pretty much all GM's black bin waste).
I also suspect that a lot of the recyclables collected at RoseHill (i.e. most of the waste) goes elsewhere anyway.
To sensible that, and Bredbury having a rail head to. ::) ::)
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I suspect you are right, more than likely it goes to India.
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I was first in the new tip a Rose Hill this morning . I can visualize traffic chaos where you unload your vehicle. I hope I am wrong. Ray
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Well Ray, I must've been near you as I also was amongst the first to enter the newly designed Rose Hill site.
After I went up onto the upper level I had a good look around and could see the logic used :).
The site has been re-developed in the logistical way, meaning that the container carriers can get in and out quickly without hassle whilst we, the site users, can get in and deposit our waste/recyclables.
I would say though that down the left hand side of the site, where the road goes by leading to the upper level, that there's very little space for parking your vehicle which isn't a good thing.
The upper level parking space has roughly the equal amount to the previous site design and when I say roughly I mean one or maybe two possible parking spots are not available anymore.
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I have been today, and for the likes of me, its hopeless :(
No problem taking my car up there, but can see at the weekend its going to be chaos ... also, with me vertically challenged ( five foot ) to dispose of anything, you have to throw it over the barrier, that's all well and good if you can get a good swing, but when the barrier comes up height, its difficult ... also, the gap between the waste container and the barrier there is quite a gap .... and my arms were not long enough to drop stuff in, never mind trying to throw it ( are you following me ? ) .. so I had to get the attendant to assist me .
Also ... there is no pedestrian access , I was told by the attendant, no pedestrian access, no high sided vehicles etc ... if they believe someone on foot is disposing of genuine waste, if its quiet they may allow people to walk up, but its unlikely due to health and safety .. but they will have to come down, through the entrance ?? I think its mad not having a walk way up .. they have a red area to walk on at the top, but not on the ramp up to it :(
The people at the allotments are not happy either, as they would wheel rubbish to the tip previously, and now they are being told they cant do it .
Considering its supposed to be Eco friendly, if you have to have a car to drop waste, then it defeats the object in some ways ?
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I have been today, and for the likes of me, its hopeless :(
No problem taking my car up there, but can see at the weekend its going to be chaos ... also, with me vertically challenged ( five foot ) to dispose of anything, you have to throw it over the barrier, that's all well and good if you can get a good swing, but when the barrier comes up height, its difficult ... also, the gap between the waste container and the barrier there is quite a gap .... and my arms were not long enough to drop stuff in, never mind trying to throw it ( are you following me ? ) .. so I had to get the attendant to assist me .
or in other words.. if it's a struggle for you to throw your heavy rubbish away, there's an attendant to help you.
Personally I think the tip is an improvement.. and lets not forget you sometimes had to wait a couple of minutes before the changes, you may, at sometimes, have to wait a couple of minutes now. No big deal really is it ?
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The attendant was there today ... when my husband went at the weekend, there wasnt an attendant at the top to help him, he had a very heavy desk that firstly he had to get over the barrier, but then had to throw it in to the skip below him
I dont moan for moaning sake Tricky .. believe it or not !!
I think the lay out of the tip is an improvement in some parts .. but what if you dont have a car ? and also , im not going to be the only short ar$ed person visiting the tip, and today was quiet, what when its not
Do you have * try * to be so patronising ??
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Pink Panther, If you interpreted my post as patronising then I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to be being patronising at all..
I was merely trying to give something a positive spin. So many changes recently are causing nothing but moaning posts, I don't think the tip deserves to be one of them, that's all. :)
(IN MY OPINION)
The barriers, which are there to stop you from falling in the containers (yes, I know you know what they're for) are not as high as the hoppers you used to have to lift your rubbish into.. so that's better isn't it?
Rubbish which can be recycled is now much simpler to sort, so that's better too..
There was always a height restriction for vehicles so no change there.. and more cars can actually be on site than before so less cars having to queue on Railway Road, which also seems better to me.
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I had a big office c0hair, and an old computer .. both had considerable weight in them for "flinging " ... the old tip, the skip, hoppers whatever they are called some were on ground level that you walked into for stuff like that .
I didn't manage very well, and there will be others like me, I'm certain of it .... I don't come on here to be negative, it was my personal experience of my visit ... I don't find it an all singing, dancing new style tip .... what if there wasn't an attendant on the top floor ... I want to be in and out, rather than doing a romeo and Juliet balcony scene when I need a hand . ( and I mean help ... not a round of applause ;)
Seriously though ... do you not find that the time it has taken them and the money spent ... that some sort of pedestrian access would have made sense ? We have managed just about with the black recycle bin at home, but it is full and I have stuff that I'm going to have to take to the tip, its only bin bags ( fine for my little arms to fling ) but it would take me five minutes to walk there ,,, its a pain having to take the car if I don't need to .
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The split level design at RH is pretty much 'industry standard' these days and is a massive improvement on the previous free for all that used to characterise our tip. Having to dodge moving traffic whilst carrying heavy bags of waste was always a challenge.
Pedestrian access is a bit of a moot point. I have worked on schemes in the past where the waste authority have specifically not wanted pedestrian access - as it encourages some traders (i.e. those who get paid privately to collect waste - who are barred from these sites) from parking up outside and then carrying their waste into the site for free disposal. I've seen this happen a lot at other sites and it's us the taxpayer who pays for them to make a quick buck.
Yes no pedestrian access might disinfranchise a few people who would like to walk in (but lets be honest there are only a few people who will chose to lug heavy bags any distance) but access on foot is unlikely to be a major issue for most.
I'd also like to point out I have nothing to do with the design of RH tip - my handywork is generally down south! ;D
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I understand what you are saying Belly, and some comments are fair ... but you talk about it being an industrial size tip .... but the tip is for household waste ?
Regardless of the rules and regulations of waste .. if its a public tip ( not a business waste tip) then surely there should be some sort of pedestrian access .... or am I alone in thinking that :(
Ah well, Im just off to polute the atmosphere even further by getting my four wheels out to take my rubbish to the tip ;)
Adios ;D ::)
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I understand what you are saying Belly, and some comments are fair ... but you talk about it being an industrial size tip .... but the tip is for household waste ?
Regardless of the rules and regulations of waste .. if its a public tip ( not a business waste tip) then surely there should be some sort of pedestrian access .... or am I alone in thinking that :(
Ah well, Im just off to polute the atmosphere even further by getting my four wheels out to take my rubbish to the tip ;)
Adios ;D ::)
It is a difficult call I grant you.
What I was referring to is that a lot of waste authorities experience the problem of small traders trying to sneak into public (municipal) tip sites to dump their waste free of charge - rather than go to a comercial site where they have to pay. The easiest way for traders to do this is to park round the corner and then wander in on foot with their waste. Generally very few legit members of the public will walk in with waste and so restricting access to cars is quite an easy (albeit inflexible) method of policing the problem.
Cant see why a special arrangement couldn't be made for wheelbarrows from the allotments though.
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I don't have a car and have in the past walked round with my rubbish.. Glad I read this first as I was going to have a walk round this weekend with some junk. :(
Pink Panther!!!!! do you know there is a site available to give away such items as a desk, chair and old computers that really don't need to be thrown away if someone can make use of them? (or even ask a family member if they could use it??? ;) )...anyway its... . http://groups.yahoo.com/group/StockportFreegle/
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I went to the tip this morning in the car as I had some heavy items. I asked the attendant about pedestrian access with a wheelbarrow and was told that the official line from the company is that they don't encourage pedestrian access because of safety issues, however they cannot enforce this, he also said to try and avoid weekends and very busy times.
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I concur Chicken Lady, I asked the same question yesterday. I'm not knowledgeable on the Health & Safety and Company Liability issues surrounding the site, but I was informed that the waste management company would not accept liability for accidents involving pedestrians using the ramp.
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The big question to you both though is .........
Do you have likkle arms ????? :P
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Pink Panther - I haven't actually been up the Rose Hill ramp and used the facilities yet! However, I have used the Bredbury facility a couple of times and I can report I had the length to complete the task to my satisfaction ;)
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Pink Panther - I haven't actually been up the Rose Hill ramp and used the facilities yet! However, I have used the Bredbury facility a couple of times and I can report I had the length to complete the task to my satisfaction ;)
Mmmm .lucky you .
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Anyone enoticed that the floodlights seem to stay on all night at the tip....? Not very environmentally friendly! ??? or are they generating their own power by incinerating the waste?
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Pink Panther, If you interpreted my post as patronising then I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to be being patronising at all..
Thank you for your apology Tricky .... I forgive you .... ( but only just ;D )
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Used Rose Hill tip for the first time this week. I only used the recycling part at the front on the tip, but it is a shame that pedestrians can't dispose of larger items. >:(
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went to the tip for the first time last weekend its quite impressive( if you can call a tip that)
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I spoke to someone yesterday who tried to carry an old door into the tip but was stopped by staff for being a pedestrian. What was he supposed to do, seeing as he only lives a 2 min walk away? ???
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I spoke to someone yesterday who tried to carry an old door into the tip but was stopped by staff for being a pedestrian. What was he supposed to do, seeing as he only lives a 2 min walk away? ???
That is crazy and bad for the environment. It did occur to me that I now make a weekly trip to the tip because there is only a 1 in 3 collection of normal waste. By driving to the tip, we must be causing more polution than the original collection service.
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I live near the tip and regularly take DIY rubbish as a pedestrian and haven't yet been refused entry. If I do, I'm pretty certain I won't be bringing my rubbish back home agin! ;)
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I spoke to someone yesterday who tried to carry an old door into the tip but was stopped by staff for being a pedestrian. What was he supposed to do, seeing as he only lives a 2 min walk away? ???
That is crazy and bad for the environment. It did occur to me that I now make a weekly trip to the tip because there is only a 1 in 3 collection of normal waste. By driving to the tip, we must be causing more polution than the original collection service.
I could not agree more, if recycling is so good and has less of an impact, then why are there 4 seperate vehicles collecting our waste. This must have more of a negative impact on our fragile planet!! As an example of how bad recycling is I have a valid and local case that proves its floored, Junction 25 waste has hundreds of recycled and sorted bales of waste that are having to be sent abroad for inceneration as we do not have are own' power plants ready to recieve, how can this be a good move to reducing our carbon footprint???? As ever I think the saying goes 'the world has gone mad'!! :-*
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I spoke to someone yesterday who tried to carry an old door into the tip but was stopped by staff for being a pedestrian. What was he supposed to do, seeing as he only lives a 2 min walk away? ???
I live near the tip and regularly take DIY rubbish as a pedestrian and haven't yet been refused entry. If I do, I'm pretty certain I won't be bringing my rubbish back home agin!
That is crazy and bad for the environment. It did occur to me that I now make a weekly trip to the tip because there is only a 1 in 3 collection of normal waste. By driving to the tip, we must be causing more polution than the original collection service.
I could not agree more, if recycling is so good and has less of an impact, then why are there 4 seperate vehicles collecting our waste. This must have more of a negative impact on our fragile planet!! As an example of how bad recycling is I have a valid and local case that proves its floored, Junction 25 waste has hundreds of recycled and sorted bales of waste that are having to be sent abroad for inceneration as we do not have are own' power plants ready to recieve, how can this be a good move to reducing our carbon footprint???? As ever I think the saying goes 'the world has gone mad'!! :-*
I also take rubbish to the tip regularly on a wheelbarrow with no problems.
Am maybe playing devils advocate here, or possibly showing my sad lack of maths, but the volume of rubbish is the same so the number of vehicles collecting is immaterial. I said my maths is useless and await someone to correct me!!
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I spoke to someone yesterday who tried to carry an old door into the tip but was stopped by staff for being a pedestrian. What was he supposed to do, seeing as he only lives a 2 min walk away? ???
I live near the tip and regularly take DIY rubbish as a pedestrian and haven't yet been refused entry. If I do, I'm pretty certain I won't be bringing my rubbish back home agin!
How can that be imaterial if there are three or so more hgv's on the road burning Diesel ???? :(
That is crazy and bad for the environment. It did occur to me that I now make a weekly trip to the tip because there is only a 1 in 3 collection of normal waste. By driving to the tip, we must be causing more polution than the original collection service.
I could not agree more, if recycling is so good and has less of an impact, then why are there 4 seperate vehicles collecting our waste. This must have more of a negative impact on our fragile planet!! As an example of how bad recycling is I have a valid and local case that proves its floored, Junction 25 waste has hundreds of recycled and sorted bales of waste that are having to be sent abroad for inceneration as we do not have are own' power plants ready to recieve, how can this be a good move to reducing our carbon footprint???? As ever I think the saying goes 'the world has gone mad'!! :-*
I also take rubbish to the tip regularly on a wheelbarrow with no problems.
Am maybe playing devils advocate here, or possibly showing my sad lack of maths, but the volume of rubbish is the same so the number of vehicles collecting is immaterial. I said my maths is useless and await someone to correct me!!