Post by: on May 13, 2003, 02:16:17 PM
Only the other day I was horrified to see a Range Rover "going like hell" whilst the male driver carried out a conversation on his mobile phone, what a selfish and reckless attitude towards others. School hometime and traffic peak periods will show a marked increase on these vehicles which use the canal yard as a short cut route.
Lockside was not constructed and is not designed to carry this sort of traffic, it is single track and in my opinion 15MPH Is an absolute maximum speed.
British waterways tell me that they would like to close the gate into the yard, but Stockport MBC SAY IT IS A "RIGHT OF WAY". Is that for pedestrians only? does it include cars?.
I think in the interest of safety Lockside should be access only to residents and speed humps should be put down, perhaps then we will avoid the accident that is bound to happen.
Perhaps through the good offices of the community council, this problems might be investigated and our elected representatives get something done as a matter of urgency
Post by: on May 13, 2003, 07:59:43 PM
The Council can measure both numbers of vehicles and their speed.
It is quite true that the rear of the Waterways properties is on "private land" but we would expect both parties, SMBC and Waterways, to get together and address this problem for the benefit of the Marple Community.
We will also leaflet the properties on Lockside to ask residents if they perceive a problem.
Could we also let you know that one of our web sites (linked to the Marple web site) on www.marplehighwaywatch.co.uk
has a facility to submit such observations as yours.
IF we get a hopeful response from SMBC we will post in our web site and request it is posted here also.
Thanks.
Post by: on May 14, 2003, 12:28:37 PM
Post by: PeteA on May 14, 2003, 10:00:12 PM
- Reduced speed limit, 15mph sounds good.
- Speed bumps at various points. Bearing in mind that there is no subsurface drainage for much of Lockside care would need to be taken with these, but some sort of gap at the edges for bicycles would probably suffice.
- Closing of the British Waterways yard except for pedestrians and cyclists (Note that the British Waterways vans that use Lockside seem to do so with the utmost care - thanks for that!
.- Residents only parking wold help, given that there are carparks within easy reach, e.g. behind the Navigation Inn.
- Consideration does need to be given to access to the Girl Guide hut (once rebuilt) and All Saints Primary School, perhaps some sort of turning point?
Finally thanks to the MCC representative for monitoring and acting so promptly.
Post by: on May 15, 2003, 02:38:11 PM
Post by: alastair on May 16, 2003, 06:01:15 PM
If the passing bays are supposed to be passing bays then (that would be a good thing) let them be used for that but parking for residents does need to be provided my mum lives in the top block of house also but is slightly more active than yours!
Still its usefull to be able to load up the car etc
Post by: on May 17, 2003, 03:28:51 PM
Post by: alastair on May 17, 2003, 06:27:07 PM
And as mentioned below the waterways board road is strickly private and should be really shut off more regularly.
So how would we get on to lockside without either breaking the law or breaking your car
Post by: PeteA on May 18, 2003, 12:19:12 AM
. The car park behind the Navigation Inn is not that convenient for most people on Lockside and I think it is Pay-and-Display, perhaps that is why it never seems to be that full? I understand that the areas used for parking on Lockside are passing bays, I just wonder what would happen if this was ever enforced. I have been led to understand that Lockside is an adopted highway, and that it is on British Waterways property - can anybody throw any light on this? What would the implications be?Oh, and one more reason for a speed limit is to protect the ducklings that seem to think the road is their route between lock ponds - there is one family of 6 or 7 that are using it at the moment.
I don't think the oneway idea will work for the reasons already mentioned.
Who owns Suttons Lane since it is a private road? I'm quite happy for it to be left in the condition it is in now since it must deter many from using it.
By the way we got a hand delivered letter from the MCC Executive Committee about this issue on Friday I think (fast response chaps!
, so I'll be in contact with them. If anybody else wants to their e-mail address is: mcc@peacefield.fsnet.co.uk and website: http://www.marpleccexec.org.uk
Post by: alastair on May 18, 2003, 09:20:26 AM
Lockside is correctly acknowledged as being owned by the Waterways Board and is let out by them!
We as residents actually need to have permission to place a skip on there or anything similar!
Post by: alan@marple on May 18, 2003, 10:41:10 AM
When cable and wireless or ntl as it is now, cabled the whole of Marple they left out Lockside.
When I enquired about this with the cable company, as I wanted to have a choice between cable or satelite I was advised that the waterways would not allow the road to be dug up unless under their supervision, we did not get cable.
Who supervised the digging at Lockside last year when new water pipes were laid, the road surface and pavement leaves a lot to be desired... sorry if I have gone off the track just an added point for your interest
Post by: PeteA on May 18, 2003, 10:34:20 PM
Er, Cable & Wireless as was, and ntl (why they use lower case characters I do not know) as is, did cable up Lockside a few years ago, or if they didn't they certainly dug a lot of holes and put in connection points outside each house. Only when I ring up nlt to get broadband they said (depending on when I rang):
- "Yes it is cabled up, but no you can't have broadband there is some connection problem, try again in 3 months", or,
- "Lockside has got some connection problem, it has never worked for TV never mind Internet, not sure what it is, but it'll be fixed in 6 months"
Thanks goodness the BT ADSL registration target was reached, well done everybody for registering!
<\rant>
Oh, thats better, glad to get that off my chest!
Post by: MCC Executive Committee on May 26, 2003, 09:15:18 AM
It would appear at this stage that the situation is complicated regarding the status of the highway along the canal side, but nonetheless we are sure that a result can be achieved.
So watch this space.
Adrian Taylor
Chairman
Post by: MCC Executive Committee on June 23, 2003, 07:45:19 PM
Not our fault really, just adding to our information.
We received a fair number of replies by letter and telephone on the issue of Lockside traffic, these are now summarised on www.marplehighwaywatch.co.uk if you can get through the maze.
We cannot go any further on this, it's now up to the Council.
Not everyone is on the internet, so we will deliver a copy of our letter to SMBC with a copy of the summary placed on "highwaywatch".
Thanks to all who took time out to contact us.
Post by: alan@marple on August 21, 2003, 10:05:55 PM
Post by: MCC Executive Committee on September 05, 2003, 12:35:17 PM
The report is on the agenda of Marple Area Committee for discussion next Wednesday 10th. September.
As before we will inform residents of this discussion.
The problems that exist on Lockside have in fact existed for years in one form or another, it is about time that "things" were put in place to resolve the problems once and for all.
Post by: MCC Executive Committee on September 10, 2003, 09:53:10 PM
It was felt that the old procedure of locking the gates at the rear of the Wharf would be helpful to prevent the current cut through and British Waterways will be asked to do this again, BW believe that it is not their responsibility as the road running parallel to the canal is adopted highway (SMBC responsibility?).
The recorded speeds were quite high on occasions and surprised the listeners to the report.
"Residents will be consulted" regarding any solutions which may be proposed or considered.
It was accepted that the users and (the speeders) of the road were all probably local people.
It's a case of watch this space.
Post by: MCC Executive Committee on November 25, 2003, 08:58:30 PM
Hopefully common sense has prevailed and the problems experienced by Locksiders will now go away regarding traffic abuse.
A cheap solution has prevailed, at little cost to residents.
          WELL DONE LOCKSIDERS.
Post by: alan@marple on November 27, 2003, 09:22:17 AM
Post by: MCC Executive Committee on November 27, 2003, 04:07:38 PM
  
Post by: PeteA on January 17, 2004, 06:29:41 PM
Sorry for taking such a long time to get round to doing this (a 9-10 month old child does seem to enjoy lots of play in the evenings and at weekends) but...
Thanks for the great effort from everybody, MCC, SMBC, BW and Forum posters! It is very much appreciated. Over the last month or so it has been very noticeable that Lockside has been a lot quieter and thus safer indeed. Â
Regards,
PeteA
Post by: alastair on January 17, 2004, 09:51:28 PM
Post by: on January 18, 2004, 10:36:34 AM