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Title: Post Office parking
Post by: alan@marple on June 23, 2005, 10:16:59 AM
The other day I went to post a parcel at Marple post office.
Fortunately I was able to park(with a little difficulty) just before the zig zag lines. I would never park on the ziz zags.

To my annoyance a woman in a silver Mercedes type car just rolled up onto the zig zags left her children in their car seats and followed me into the post office.

I pointed out to her that she was causing danger to pedestrians using the crossing to which she replied

"its not your problem" and I said " no it will be yours if you get booked" unfortunately no police or wardens were about.

These selfish people- who seem to have more money than good sense, total lack of concern for other road users and pedestrians,- always seem to get away with it.

I was not able to get her reg number, otherwise I would have reported her myself....but next time!!
Title: Post Office parking
Post by: Rudolph Hucker on June 25, 2005, 09:23:46 AM
Ahhhh, inconsiderate parking in Marple. Give me the wardens book and I'll write them all tickets happily.

I can't use the words I'd like to cos Mark would have to pull the post but the worst for me are the so and so's at the Methodist church who seem to think the double yellows are to keep the space clear for them personally when they wish to abandon their cars 18 inches from the curb.

I'm not talking about people with elderly or disabled passengers either, I can accept their short term (ab?)use of the restricted parking even if some do seem to linger for a while, but to the others sorry, if you can walk 50m - and yes that's you too kids - you have plenty of legitimate parking available....

Better go and lie down now.....
Title: Post Office parking
Post by: maronbf3 on June 25, 2005, 09:01:12 PM
Since the flats were built on the Jolly Sailor site, the residents of Station Road now find that they have nowhere to park their vehicles. Some of these residents now park on Hollins Green Road, there being a convenient pathway onto Station Road. Whilst we can apprecaite their problem, we on Hollins Green Road are now suffering the inconvenience of them parking on our cul-de-sac. This causes obstructions to service vehicles, visitors, and emergency vehicles. Only recently a service vehicle could not negotiate these obstructions, which necessitated a smaller vehicle to return to service the bottom end of the road. What if a large fire appliance required access?
Title: Post Office parking
Post by: Howard on June 26, 2005, 12:47:51 AM
It's not just near the Post Office and this isn't really a new topic. Do you remember this discussion thread about the lockside rat run? I'd list the following, in no particular order:
1) The Church Lane end of Union Road? Those double-yellows might as well not be there.
2) Have you seen the service road behind The Hollins being used as a car park instead of people driving up the extra 100 metres and paying 20p to use the library car park?
3) Outside Archer's. Have people no conception AT ALL of the double yellows and what inconvenience it causes other drivers and pedestrians?
4) The bus stops in front of the Holins seem to have at least one car in permanent residence for people going to the cash machine or the off-licence
5) The Stockport Road end of Bowden Lane has cars parked on both sides of the road nearly all the time.

I was talking to a taxi driver the other day about how much he hates doing jobs in Marple. They're almost always local trips, within Marple itself and almost always less than £2. We seem to have completely forgotten how to walk anywhere in the town.
Title: Post Office parking
Post by: on June 26, 2005, 09:19:07 AM
Further to Howard's posting.

The Bowden Lane entrance to Rose Hill Primary School is absolute chaos at school start and end times. Some parents seem to think that the double yellow lines are there to reserve parking space for them.

Dale Road is mostly blocked due to inconsiderate parking of parents from both Rose Hill and The Dale primary schools.

Surely if a child lives within the catchment area of a primary school then they are close enough to walk. No wonder so many of our young children are obese.
Title: Post Office parking
Post by: on September 15, 2005, 03:59:39 PM
I'll be getting a name for myself soon. So far this school term (that's just over a week! ) I have spoken to two drivers parked on the yellow lines outside the Bowden Lane entrance to Rose Hill School. I would love my daughters to be able to walk to school on their own in year 6, but I have great worries about them crossing Dale Road. Why can't people be bothered to walk to school any more? The Railway Pub have allowed use of their car-park for those attending the Dale or Rose Hill School who need to come in a car. But, I suspect that for many the walk to school from the Railway pub is still TOO far!

Don't start me off on parking at the other end of Bowden Lane either. The Bathroom Showroom employees seem to think that they can park on the pavement. I also saw three lorries parked on double yellow lines last week, whilst their drivers went for their fish'n'chips!

 :)
Title: Post Office parking
Post by: on September 16, 2005, 03:08:10 PM
Have you also noticed how often that paint firms van is parked just before the crossing by Rose Hill post office.

It completely block site of the crossing and motorist coming from the post office or off licence.

Now the dark nights are here, it will be worse, I just wish he would use the driveway all the time
Title: Post Office parking
Post by: on September 16, 2005, 08:39:03 PM
I have twin toddlers and am sick of having to wheel my twins into the road as people park on the pavements. I also ask them to move their veichles, I have knocked on houses/shops before now, many are rude but some do move and say sorry.

A man was parked up in a van the other day near the bathroom showroom, I asked him to move as otherwise I would have to walk into the road, he just smirked at me.

Another hotspot is the garage on church lane, customers and staff are always parking on the yellow lines and totally blocking the pavement. Why should I keep crossing? (or walk on the road with a turing you cannot see into on the right and another on the left)

 If I scratch their cars (by accident of course) with the buggy, I would get done for criminal damage despite their illegal parking- they get away with it, the council do nothing. So into the road I go with no choice. A disabled man in a mobility car tried to get past a car parked on the pavement at this garage last week and he nearly tipped his car over and fell out, that is awful.

I also agree about school parking. I live over a mile from the school (RH) and walk most days with no problem (except the pavements! ). But many people that park down on elmfield and bowden live within about 5-10 mins walk and are not on their way to work. They have even started with the 4x4's.

People there too park accross the pavements, the worst of it is they do not wait until a passing child is out of the way before they drive on/off the kerb.
Title: Post Office parking
Post by: on October 09, 2005, 08:14:09 PM
Yes, I agree on how bad the parking is in Marple and Marple Bridge, terrible.  If something is not done then people will simply stop using the various businesses they are parking in front of /near to...they will simply go out of town where parking is ample.  So...how about every body stops moaning about "that van they saw outside the chippy the other day" and "that lady on zig-zag's" and do something constructive to improve the situation.  One last thing I'd love to mention to all you people who take it upon them selves to approach people they consider to be doing something wrong/parking incorrectly, be very very careful, because one day you might just upset the wrong person and end up getting hurt.
Title: Post Office parking
Post by: on October 09, 2005, 09:41:31 PM
ok, so we should just risks our babies lives by walking in the road? So we should be scared to ask people to stick within the law? barf
Title: Post Office parking
Post by: on October 10, 2005, 01:33:26 PM
No, I didn't say you should risk your childrens lives, don't talk like such an idiot, and I didn't say that you should be scared.  All I am trying to tell you to do is that moaning on message boards rarely makes any difference, people need to get together and do something properly.  My point about approaching people was not saying you should be scared, its simply pointing out that not all members of society will greet your point of view regarding where they have dumped their car with a smile or an insult back, they would greet you with a fist, bat or some other form of physical violence, trust me, I've seen it happen.  Don't even begin to think, "no, that wouldnt happen in a quiet town like Marple on a crowded street", because it already has done, and will do again.
Title: Post Office parking
Post by: on October 15, 2005, 08:55:27 PM
you are the idiot :O
Title: Post Office parking
Post by: on October 15, 2005, 09:29:27 PM
hmmm....good come back.
Title: Post Office parking
Post by: on November 20, 2005, 10:49:38 AM
I'm a new parent at the Dale and we haven't been told about the Railway allowing parking in the pub. I have parked in the postoffice carpark before but its difficult to get in and out of at peak times.  We do not live in the catchment area of the school and most of the parents who drive DO NOT either or have to travel on to work/college afterwards.

Paula
Title: Post Office parking
Post by: Eric the Hamster on November 20, 2005, 03:59:09 PM
I'm also a Dale parent and am also outside the catchment area. We do try to walk, but you do need to be organised to do that! When we drive, we also use the Railway car park (although I am not aware that there is an official permission, I just thought that as the pub wasn't open I would not clash with pub users). There is also the car park for Rose Hill station, which doesn't tend to be full, and would be convenient for both the Dale and Rose Hill schools. I am not sure about whether people go on to work or not (sometimes I do, although I do use the train - I would take the car on those days I would need to go from school to an after school activity - there is a bit of other juggling going on outside the school day.

Another reason for minimising car use is road rage, and I have been at the receiving end of it in Marple (I didn't pull out of Bowden Lane onto Stockport Road quickly enough for the car behinf me, even though it was chockabloc with traffic) - a sad day, as I thought I got away from that when I moved away from the South East ...

Whatever the reason for using the car (and some of us do try to minimise it), I agree that there is no excuse for the sort of inconsiderate parking I see around the schools.
Title: Post Office parking
Post by: Rachael on November 21, 2005, 10:58:51 AM
Rose Hill school get letters frequently telling people the landlord from the Railway is happy for school  cars to use his carpark for school drop offs.  Maybe someone from the Dale could confirm this with him and get a letter printed out.
Title: Post Office parking
Post by: on February 08, 2006, 12:19:44 AM
I'd love to walk my children to school but

(a) we live about 20-30 minutes walk away across at least 6 busy roads.

And

(b) would someone please explain how I would manage to walk from The Dale at 9am after dropping my children off and sorting out various school bags and lost property and all the other paraphanalia that occurs in a school morning and reach Marple train station in time for the 9.10am......... go on, I'd love to hear how I would manage that......?? Many people completely miss the point that most parents drive to school because they have to dash like a madman for the infrequent public transport system afterwards, not because we are a bunch of lazy nothing better to do than stroll back for Trisha-types. Ok? Rant over.. Beam me up scotty...
Title: Post Office parking
Post by: on February 08, 2006, 08:25:46 AM
Maybe Stressed, your question should be, "what would I do if I didnt have a car?"

I also live 20 mins walk, 30 if we were having a go slow day from Rose Hill School, and for many years I would leave home at 8.15am to make sure my child got to school on time for 8.50am.  

Do you think a 20 minute walk is unnaceptable for a child?? Its nothing, if you are in a rush in the morning, its simple, get the family up earlier!!!!  My child was doing this walk from the age of 2.5 to go to playgroup, with no pushchair.

Most schools allow the children in the playground from 8.45, you would get to the train station easy, especially as its all downhill  for your journey to the station.

And no, Im not one of the mothers who would stroll home to watch "Trisha", I worked my job around the children, and also used public transport, if the job is a problem to fit in with your children, then its easy........change your job.

No wonder the roads are blocked in the morning with excuses like yours.

Oh and your point about 6 busy roads, well, you should sleep well knowing that as the childrens mother/father you are taking your responsibilities seriously as far as their safety is concerned helping your children cross the road!!!  If you choose to live six busy roads, 20 mins walk, a train to catch at 9.15 well it all sounds like your own choice.

Stop complaining, and making excuses!! :(
Title: Post Office parking
Post by: Osdog on February 08, 2006, 09:46:22 AM
I have to say that if you are dropping the kids off at 9 (and all the stuff that goes with it) and then managing to get to Marple station for the 9.15 train - you must be driving like a madman/woman to get there in time.  And - when you do get to marple - where do you park then?  Marple station is full at 8.00am these days...... or do you stroll over to Rose Hill....... (sorry drive back to Rose Hill).......

My kids always walked to school - (about a 15 minute walk) - and if they were collected in the car it was a rare treat........

Kids should walk - too much mollycoddling going on these days.  Marple Bridge is brought to a standstill twice a day with folks delivering their kids.

And whilst I'm on a roll here - I do wish those people who deliver/collect their kids would put seat belts on them...... far too many times do I see the little darlings rampaging round the back of the car / standing up in the front seats etc... while mummy blissfully ignorant of the fact that they are going to be catapulted through the windscreen - sits there with her belt ON.......

I saw one woman the other day carefully put a box in the back of the car and strap it in.... the kids... they just got in and sat there - double standards or what!

Off my soapbox now.
Title: Post Office parking
Post by: on February 08, 2006, 10:26:02 AM
Quote (Guest @ Feb. 08 2006,08:25)
if the job is a problem to fit in with your children, then its easy........change your job.

Oh and your point about 6 busy roads, well, you should sleep well knowing that as the childrens mother/father you are taking your responsibilities seriously as far as their safety is concerned helping your children cross the road!!!  If you choose to live six busy roads, 20 mins walk, a train to catch at 9.15 well it all sounds like your own choice.

Stop complaining, and making excuses!! :(

Always easy that one  ???


If, as you say, you managed to get your kids to school everyday by walking them - well done! and if you were lucky enough to fit your job around the children - well done there too.

However it's not always about choice really is it?

May I ask what kind of job you had which allowed you to be that fortunate?
Title: Post Office parking
Post by: Osdog on February 08, 2006, 11:53:40 AM
What utter rot - it is ALWAYS about choice....... you choose to use the car - or you choose to walk.  You choose to use Marple station rather than Rose Hill.... etc

You could choose to get up earlier and walk........ you could choose to change your job, and work nearer home....... maybe (just maybe) you could choose to not work at all (not always an option I know).

What happens when the car doesn't start? Do you and the kids both take the day off........?  just wondered
Title: Post Office parking
Post by: on February 08, 2006, 02:24:53 PM
Goodness Osdog.. you seem quite aggresive - I think you may have missed my point a little.

I didn't say there was NO choice I said it was not always about choice. Not everybody is in the same position as you are they?

Surely that's a moderate assumption? in fact you have written that, in the past, even you have collected your child/children in the car.

I admit that, I personally, take my 3 year old to play group and I use my car to do so. I use it because I am self-employed and, after dropping her off, I then make my way to work.

Can I ask (I'm just being provocative here) Is that in order with you?.. Or shall I walk 20 mins back home to collect my car to travel to the office?
To me it seems that your way is slightly less productive.

Quote (Osdog @ Feb. 08 2006,11:53)
You could choose to get up earlier and walk........ you could choose to change your job, and work nearer home....... maybe (just maybe) you could choose to not work at all (not always an option I know).


Or you could choose to drive them to school. It's a free country. JUST PARK CONSIDERATELY. which i think the arguement is all about really. :p

On the one day I had no car (puncture) I walked. We both enjoyed it. I'm lucky enough to be able to.  :p
Title: Post Office parking
Post by: tina on February 08, 2006, 02:37:02 PM
wow, everyone is so angry today! I live around the corner from school and walk, mind you I can't drive! But I do see some very local people turn up in the car! maybe for work purposes but I'm sure it would be quicker to walk and go back for the car, rather than try to squeeze into a tiny spot. Nearly every morning cars turn around onto the pavement, whilst children are still walking to school, this is unfair, one day a child is going to get run over, and I hope it's not one of mine!
Also the very nice crossing man has a very hard job on his hands, with drivers rushing to catch trains etc... many days I have seen him ignored and drivers drive on by without stopping! (Not pointing the finger at you ' stressed Dale parent';) but to all drivers on the road! even those who use their mobile phones! But that's another debate all together!
Title: Post Office parking
Post by: Mike in Marple on February 08, 2006, 05:51:58 PM
Quote (Guest @ Feb. 08 2006,14:24)
Or you could choose to drive them to school. It's a free country. JUST PARK CONSIDERATELY. which i think the arguement is all about really. :p

Couldn't agree more.  If you choose to use your car, God speed and drive carefully.

Surely the problem doesn't lie with the car users, but with those who are driving recklessly.
Title: Post Office parking
Post by: on February 09, 2006, 12:17:18 PM
It appears to me, and I quote "appears" to me, , is that the women want to live in a so called mans world, equal rights and all that, want the kids, want the job, they want it all!!!

When you have children, you make sacrifices, the nature of the job I did to fit around my children, is completely irrelevant, and why would it matter, if you cant afford to look after your children by making  lifestyle changes, simple, dont have them!!!

The job I chose, had to fit in with my child, not my child to fit in around my job!!

How can people complain on here about the congestion on the roads, when they themselves are as guilty as the people they complain about???

Its a case of put up, and shut up, or walk, make alternative arrangements, but dont complain about something you do yourself!!!!
Title: Post Office parking
Post by: Dave on February 09, 2006, 01:33:44 PM
Maybe I'm missing the point here, but I thought there were lollipop persons to enable primary school pupils to walk to school on their own or with their friends and cross roads safely.  So why do they need to be walked all the way to school by Mum?  Or are they very young (i.e. infant age)?
Title: Post Office parking
Post by: tina on February 09, 2006, 02:24:12 PM
My children are 8 & 6, far too young to walk themselves, the crossing man is there to cross both children and parents.
Title: Post Office parking
Post by: on February 10, 2006, 01:36:16 AM
I agree with the fact that young children in this day and age are too young to walk to school on their own, but what sort of excuse is having to cross six busy roads, what rubbish!!!

Also, if these "Six busy roads" are too busy to cross by themselves, then maybe you need to get in touch with the local road traffic officer, and see if he can assist you, also, can you tell me which "six" roads these are.  As I have pointed out, I live quite a way from the school of my choice (not the nearest school), and if  my child would have to cross "six busy roads", then if I lived that far away, it would and could only give me peace of mind that if on foot, the best I could do would be to assist them.  A car ride could only be a luxury..........dont complain!!!
Title: Post Office parking
Post by: on February 11, 2006, 12:10:56 PM
Many of the RH parents are just plain lazy. Many live within 5 mins walking distance (and are not on their way to work) but choose instead to drive their cars up elmfield drive, and park accross kerbs. If children are walking past, they do not wait to move off, they drive alongside the children. My kids nearly got run over several times.

The head teacher has stated that they can use the pub car park but it is too far for these lazy people.

I also think alot of it has to do with school snobbery. Certain parents bypass their catchment area schools, which would be walking distance, and drive their kids to the dale or RH (or ludworth)  Many RH parents live too far to walk but it was their own choice to turn their nose up at peacefield et al. If we all used the local school then only a few would have to drive there.

Many people are lazy in general though and could easily walk to work, it isn't just the school run mums/dads. But it is a bad thing when cars take over both roads and pavements.
Title: Post Office parking
Post by: on February 11, 2006, 12:48:23 PM
Im not sure whether it comes down to snobbery Jen, I do have a school with is nearer to me, but it came down to choice, and also gutt feeling about the school I chose.  That is not to say that the school nearer to me is not good, I just felt it wasnt right for my child.
Title: Post Office parking
Post by: Osdog on February 15, 2006, 12:39:48 PM
I'm not angry per se......... I am annoyed that so many folks feel the need to get their cars out each and every morning to take their kids on what would normally be a 5 minute walk to school each day.

Yes... I did take mine to and from school on the 'odd' occasion - but this is not what I was talking about.  I am discussing the people who do this EVERY day.  My kids thought their ship had come in, if I turned up and offered a lift up the hill.  I was in fact asked by one child (friend of my kids), if I should go home get the car, and then come back and collect them......... talk about being indulged all the time.  The fact that said child had to walk up a hill made for an unpleasant evening, and when 'mummy' came to collect, I was told in no uncertain terms that I should have obliged.

Now.... where does this leave me?  Kids are now in their teens, so no need for me to worry so much.  Situation in Marple / Marple Bridge remains the same.  I walk to the station in a morning, and see them taking the kids to school, and then struggle to park, before driving the 2 minutes back home again.

This is really what riles.......... not the going to work afterwards.  I have sympathy, if you have to get the kids off and then get to work yourself.  But I ask again, if you are getting to marple station after 8.30am - please - where do you park.  I 've tried it once or twice, but never again.  The 15 minute walk does me good...... even on rainy days.

Off my soapbox now.  Don't mean to offend.  Just my two pence worth.....