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Title: Euro Millions - what would you do with it?
Post by: Deniseam on May 09, 2010, 08:51:22 PM
Just for fun - if you won the Euro Millions lottery and felt civic minded what would you like to do for the Marple area? 

Title: Re: Euro Millions - what would you do with it?
Post by: admin on May 09, 2010, 09:09:46 PM
I've got loads of ideas but my favourite would be to reinstate the canal arm back into Memorial Park.
Title: Re: Euro Millions - what would you do with it?
Post by: Barbara on May 09, 2010, 09:35:10 PM
Buy the wharf area and the adjacent site.  Upgrade the New Horizons boarding area and make it a really up to date facility for our disabled users and use the rest of the site to become a visitor centre for 'gongoozlers' and other lovers of the canal system. ;D
Title: Re: Euro Millions - what would you do with it?
Post by: alan@marple on May 10, 2010, 12:03:04 PM
Build a bandstand in the park with a storage area for seating
Title: Re: Euro Millions - what would you do with it?
Post by: Jay on May 10, 2010, 10:29:54 PM
I agree with Mark after looking at some of the recent pictures posted. I've spent many a time showing young relatives and my own children the missing gap on the canal and showing them the remains of the bridge in the park near the cinema. My vote is with your Mark.. Sorry not sure if the elections are over!
Title: Re: Euro Millions - what would you do with it?
Post by: Neil Smith on May 16, 2010, 07:10:04 PM
I've got loads of ideas but my favourite would be to reinstate the canal arm back into Memorial Park.

How funny, I have just been thinking what a good idea this would be and the trade it could inject into the local area, and a few hours later I am reading it on here  :o ;D ;D.

If it could be done, a small wharf for a max 24hour stop for 5-10 boats, right in the heart of Marple wow......
Title: Re: Euro Millions - what would you do with it?
Post by: admin on May 17, 2010, 05:16:38 PM
How funny, I have just been thinking what a good idea this would be and the trade it could inject into the local area, and a few hours later I am reading it on here  :o ;D ;D.

If it could be done, a small wharf for a max 24hour stop for 5-10 boats, right in the heart of Marple wow......

It could be challenging to come up with a good design that works for today but I agree a small marina in the park would be the best approach - boats would need to be able to moor and turn easily to get back out again. Due to the levels (the park rises quite a lot towards the cinema / entrance) it might be better to keep it nearer to the existing canal than further up where it used to run under the (buried) bridge near the cinema. If the money ever became available (and you might be surprised where it could come from ;) ) then there would have to be a careful study, lots of costing, planning and consultation before any digging began.

It's a shame there are no pictures around that show the arm when it was in the park. Maybe some will turn up one day on the Virtual Tour?
Title: Re: Euro Millions - what would you do with it?
Post by: jet on May 17, 2010, 07:39:21 PM
Where the Original Canal arm that  once service Hollins Mill ,a large piece of that Land belongs to The Charles Ingham Bandroom Fund which is committed to build a Band room for the Brass Bands Of Marple.
If someone wants to make an offer of about £100,000 i think the Trusties might be persuaded to sell.
Title: Re: Euro Millions - what would you do with it?
Post by: admin on May 17, 2010, 08:05:01 PM
I don't think the bands' land (red box? ) would be needed. The old canal arm must have been something like the red line shown on this satellite view, which would be inside the existing park boundary. My non-expert opinion is that an area something like that shown in green would be needed for a small marina.

(http://www.marple-uk.com/misc/canal_arm.jpg)
Title: Re: Euro Millions - what would you do with it?
Post by: admin on May 17, 2010, 08:16:14 PM
Apologies - I've now managed to find the route on this 1910 map - looks like it was much closer to the cinema and the bands' land than I thought. I still don't think it would be needed if it was to be re-instated though.

(http://www.marple-uk.com/misc/canal_arm2.jpg)
Title: Re: Euro Millions - what would you do with it?
Post by: jet on May 17, 2010, 11:06:49 PM
Apologies excepted Mark.I think your idea is great and if it came to fruition it would be good for the Marple area and the band if we got the market value of the Land ,which would then help the band with the development of the Park Keepers cottage
Title: Re: Euro Millions - what would you do with it?
Post by: Dave on May 18, 2010, 02:51:42 AM
Great idea.  And to complete the job, knock down the Hollins and surround the end of the canal 'arm' with a new landscaped area, cobbled, with a visitor centre and cafe, and a 'mini bus station'.     :D
Title: Re: Euro Millions - what would you do with it?
Post by: Taurus on May 18, 2010, 08:10:50 AM
I wonder if the foundations of the old canal arm are still there, i.e the concrete walls and they were just filled in?
Title: Re: Euro Millions - what would you do with it?
Post by: admin on May 18, 2010, 12:32:33 PM
I would think pretty much everything below ground was filled in and is still there.

The bridge is still there (near the entrance to the park) albeit almost buried and when they did some work in 1988 to the Co-Op cark park the road collapsed to reveal the canal walls underneath:

http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/displayimage.php?pos=-3962
http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/displayimage.php?pos=-3919
Title: Re: Euro Millions - what would you do with it?
Post by: marveld on May 18, 2010, 07:01:14 PM
Another map from ~1850

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Title: Re: Euro Millions - what would you do with it?
Post by: marveld on May 18, 2010, 07:58:44 PM
There's more on "Mark Whittaker's Arm" here,

http://www.pittdixon.go-plus.net/pfc-hollins-mill/pfc-hollins-mill.htm

Explore the menus on this site, it's got quite a bit on Marple!
Title: Re: Euro Millions - what would you do with it?
Post by: Deniseam on May 18, 2010, 09:20:46 PM
Now just to be a bit controversial and move the conversation away from Mark's Arm I would like to put in an offer, with my millions, for the Roman Lakes.  I know that the owners are trying to do stuff but whatever they do seems to take an age.  I would like to swoop in with my largesse and create a nature reserve, visitors centre etc etc etc.  Oh and if it could include the site of Mellor Mill I wouldn't mind doing a bit there as well!
Title: Re: Euro Millions - what would you do with it?
Post by: Neil Smith on May 18, 2010, 09:26:45 PM
Now just to be a bit controversial and move the conversation away from Mark's Arm I would like to put in an offer, with my millions, for the Roman Lakes.  I know that the owners are trying to do stuff but whatever they do seems to take an age.  I would like to swoop in with my largesse and create a nature reserve, visitors centre etc etc etc.  Oh and if it could include the site of Mellor Mill I wouldn't mind doing a bit there as well!

Having played around the lakes as a kid some 20+ years ago I thought it would be nice to have a walk around with the wife and daughter a couple of years ago, and it had not changed one bit, I think the only thing they have against them into making it a really nice place to spend lazy days at, is the access road, it is dreadfull.
Title: Re: Euro Millions - what would you do with it?
Post by: Dave on May 19, 2010, 02:57:29 AM
I think the only thing they have against them into making it a really nice place to spend lazy days at, is the access road, it is dreadfull.

Now that's a thorny issue!  The owners of the lakes have for years been in dispute with the Council as to who is responsible for repairing and maintaining Lakes Road.  The problem is that, surprisingly, Lakes Road is officially only a bridle way  That means that the Council is only liable to maintain it up to the standard required to be used by horse riders, cyclists and walkers - any improvement to make it fit for vehicles is the responsibility of the residents.  An issue for our councillors, I guess.

Meanwhile, this recently established group, which includes SMBC representation, might possibly lead to progress?  http://www.ourvalley.org.uk/
Title: Re: Euro Millions - what would you do with it?
Post by: jet on May 19, 2010, 05:59:27 AM
The Canal arm was filled in around 1959 .my farther Ron Singleton with my Mother Jean lived in the Flat above Warrals Hardward Shop on Stockport road.My Sister Jayne was about 10 Months old ,when left in the pram at the back ,next to the smelly old canal ,a Rat crawled on to the pram and bite my Sister on her face.She still bares the mark to this day.
My Mother and Farther complain to the local Marple District Council and went to the Local papers and campain to fill in this stinking ,Rat infested Ditch for Good.
Title: Re: Euro Millions - what would you do with it?
Post by: admin on May 19, 2010, 07:10:12 AM
Mark, does your family have any photographs from the 50s that show the canal arm, or indeed any other interesting photos of Marple? Would love to look through them for the Virtual Tour!
Title: Re: Euro Millions - what would you do with it?
Post by: Taurus on May 19, 2010, 03:27:59 PM
One of my neighbours remembers the canal arm but no photos I'm afraid. She said her husband used to swim in it and in his youth, him and his friends made a canoe out of cane and canvas but it sank!
Title: Re: Euro Millions - what would you do with it?
Post by: jet on May 20, 2010, 06:55:25 AM
I will ask my Dad if there is any Photo's.At the time of the incident ,it was reported in the North Cheshire Herald, Circa 1959.