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Dave

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Re: Alternative site
« Reply #45 on: January 12, 2012, 09:05:58 PM »
Interesting stuff.  But isn't 'alternative site' a bit of a misnomer?  At 0.5 hectares, the Chadwick Street site is small, and not really an alternative to the Hibbert Lane site, which is (I think) about 3.5 hectares. 

if so, it wouldn't interest any of the major supermarket chains.  It might be OK for an Aldi or a Netto, however? 

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Re: Alternative site
« Reply #46 on: January 12, 2012, 09:56:23 PM »
I hope the red outlining is slightly inaccurate as it looks as if it demolishes part of the back of the Carver!
And the loss of the car parking is going to affect the theatre too.


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« Reply #47 on: January 12, 2012, 11:54:39 PM »
I like the description of 'gentle slope' - really????  ???
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Re: Alternative site
« Reply #48 on: January 13, 2012, 08:22:02 AM »
It might be OK for an Aldi or a Netto, however? 

I believe that all the Netto stores were sold to Asda recently. The "cut-price" supermarkets are Aldi and Lidl. If there is going to be a supermarket on that site then I'd definitely prefer an Aldi.
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Re: Alternative site
« Reply #49 on: January 13, 2012, 09:41:28 AM »
And the loss of the car parking is going to affect the theatre too.

I think the council's requirement that 'any redevelopment proposals will need to incorporate sufficient car parking provision' should take care of that. 

If a supermarket isn't interested, the council document lists a number of other possible uses:

A1     Shops
A2     Financial and Professional Services
A3     Restaurants and Cafes
A4     Drinking Establishments
A5     Hot Food Take Away
B1     Business
D1     Non Residential Institution
D2     Assembly and Leisure
C1     Hotel
C2     Residential Institution
C3     Dwelling Houses
Some types of Sui Generis use e.g. Night Club, Casino   :o

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Re: Alternative site
« Reply #50 on: January 13, 2012, 10:11:52 AM »
A McDonalds or KFC would definitely be interested in a plot of that size

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Re: Alternative site
« Reply #51 on: January 13, 2012, 10:44:37 AM »
I would expect anybody who acquires this land, for whatever purpose, to make any parking for the use of customers only.
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Re: Alternative site
« Reply #52 on: January 13, 2012, 11:12:54 AM »

I suspect the answer depends on whether a 7 mile round car trip to the nearest large supermarket that isn't the Co-op is 'acceptable'. Not something that I have a strong view on either way as I have a car and can make the journey, but again this is an issue that is likley to be a key debating point at any inquiry and at the crux of an Inspector's final decision.
Excellent point. I fully agree.

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Re: Alternative site
« Reply #53 on: January 13, 2012, 12:25:44 PM »
I would expect anybody who acquires this land, for whatever purpose, to make any parking for the use of customers only.

Good point.  But if the Carver Theatre and anyone else with an interest in this makes representations to the council at the consultation stage of the planning application, they may be able to get public parking made a condition of planning consent. 

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Re: Alternative site
« Reply #54 on: January 13, 2012, 02:31:33 PM »
I would expect anybody who acquires this land, for whatever purpose, to make any parking for the use of customers only.

Good point.  But if the Carver Theatre and anyone else with an interest in this makes representations to the council at the consultation stage of the planning application, they may be able to get public parking made a condition of planning consent. 

And in addition, apart from the odd matinee (Gang Show and Pantomime), the Carver performances are in the evening when the car park may be used less than in the daytime, especially if it's a retail establishment.
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Re: Alternative site
« Reply #55 on: January 13, 2012, 03:01:43 PM »
IF its retail.

Retail is not a good business at the moment. Even Tesco has just had £5b knocked off its value.

What if its:
housing
care home (look at the size of the one at Barrack Hill)
hotel
leisure centre
hot food takeaway (such as McDonalds or KFC)
drinking establishment
restaurant
night club

All uses that the council would consider and all ones that wouldn't want to have their car park for public use.

But this is all conjecture, just like the hysteria about Hibbert Lane. We'll all just have to wait and see what happens.





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Re: Alternative site
« Reply #56 on: January 13, 2012, 07:33:08 PM »
Wasn't there a rumour that the garden centre on Dooley Lane was going to be developed into a large supermarket?  This would be an ideal site for a large store with plenty of car park space, on a bus route and a main road, and would not intrude on a residential area.  If the garden centre were thinking of selling to a supermarket they had better get a move on.

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Re: Alternative site
« Reply #57 on: January 13, 2012, 09:05:11 PM »
Which bus route would that be then? ???

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Re: Alternative site
« Reply #58 on: January 14, 2012, 05:01:36 PM »
It might be OK for an Aldi or a Netto, however? 

I believe that all the Netto stores were sold to Asda recently. The "cut-price" supermarkets are Aldi and Lidl. If there is going to be a supermarket on that site then I'd definitely prefer an Aldi.

Quitte right, Sadly Netto UK was bought by Asdas as an immediate small store network. I'd much prefer an Aldi / Lidl to a Waitrose as mooted before. It wouldbe cheaper to dine out every day than shop at Waitrose

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Re: Alternative site
« Reply #59 on: January 15, 2012, 10:03:05 AM »
The site might also be big enough for an M&S Simply Food, like the one in Hazel Grove?   (A bit too pricy for a cheapskate like me, tho!   ;))