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Question: Do you approve, oppose or not care if a supermarket were built on the Hibbert Lane site?
I object to a supermarket being built on the site.
I approve of a supermarket being built on the site.
I don't mind what is done with it.

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« Reply #990 on: October 06, 2011, 05:41:33 PM »

It's good to see this potential local shop closures issue being debated properly. A central plank of MIA's campaign seems to be that such closures would be inevitable. Yet there is no hard and fast evidence to prove this point. I would trust the Tescopoly campaign on this no more than I would trust the PR departments of this country's biggest retailers, probably less so in fact. But that's my own opinion based somewhat on political leanings.

So apologies for raising the term 'scare-mongering' again but those on the No side seem to have been convinced that the town centre would be a ghost town soon after the opening of any new supermarket on Hibbert Lane. I was struck at the rally in the park by how widely this crystal ball gazing has been accepted as an incontrovertible truth, when my own eyes tell me that there are many towns close to us that support large supermarkets (slightly out of the town centre) and thriving local shops.

Sadly we can't clone Marple and run a parallel universe type experiment, so whatever does come to pass no one will know what would have happened under the alternative scenario.

Anyway, off topic slightly but I'm looking forward to popping into the co-op soon for all my legal needs.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15187154

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Despite the title Tesco Law, the supermarket has said it has "no current plans to offer legal services". But the Co-operative was among the first stores to say it was interested in offering a legal business.
I agree henry!!.

As well as scaremongering, i yet again bring up the point about MIAs constant contradictions. They dont want a supermarket on hibbert lane as they believe marple wouldbe a ghost town.....yet they feel one smack bang in the town centre is acceptable......confused? Arnt we all!!

This is taken from a post I made in the thread 'A shop that does not open when I wish to shop might as well not be there...'

MIA's campaign is 'No to supermarket on Hibbert Lane'. There should be no ambiguity about this. MIA would welcome a new supermarket within the district centre of Marple to provide competition for the Co-op and choice for local residents. This would bring more people into Marple which can only be seen as a good thing for the community and local businesses. The issue with Hibbert Lane is that it is not within the retail zone, as laid down by the council and is just far enough away from the centre to draw shoppers away from other shops.

Hope that helps clarify things - I don't know how else to make it clearer  Huh
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« Reply #991 on: October 06, 2011, 06:11:34 PM »

Well there are no more meetings or talks  planned todate by MIA, with anyone or anybody until after the governors meeting on 17th Oct so let's all wait and see what happens ! You could say MIA are conserving their  energy  Wink
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« Reply #992 on: October 06, 2011, 06:12:45 PM »



Looking at the District Centre map, the area the Co-op occupies now is, of course, included within the district centre.

BUT

I imagine that this map's boundary would have changed when that space became retail and Aeroquip was demolished back in the 80's..?

Just for curiosities sake I'd like to see the 70's version of the map


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« Reply #993 on: October 06, 2011, 06:56:59 PM »

Well there are no more meetings or talks  planned todate by MIA, with anyone or anybody until after the governors meeting on 17th Oct so let's all wait and see what happens ! You could say MIA are conserving their  energy  Wink

Will MIA not be attending the area committee meeting on the 12th then?
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« Reply #994 on: October 06, 2011, 06:58:11 PM »

No we have no plans to attend because the governors are not attending so it would be a waste of time, all our questions have been answered by the councillors and planners so it's not worth turning people out to hear what they already know,  so unless Ms Cassidy and the corporation agree to attend, which to date they have not but if they do decide to enter into a question and answer session we will be there !
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« Reply #995 on: October 06, 2011, 07:02:26 PM »

No we have no plans to attend ?

Sorry must be a mistake. maybe I need glasses!
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« Reply #996 on: October 06, 2011, 07:05:18 PM »

No we have no plans to attend ?

Sorry must be a mistake. maybe I need glasses!

I am not sure what you mean sorry
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« Reply #997 on: October 06, 2011, 07:42:53 PM »

MIA would welcome a new supermarket within the district centre of Marple to provide competition for the Co-op and choice for local residents. This would bring more people into Marple which can only be seen as a good thing for the community and local businesses. Hope that helps clarify things - I don't know how else to make it clearer  Huh

I think what confuses some of us is that one of MIA's main reasons for campaigning against a supermarket on Hibbert Lane is that it would cause greatly increased traffic congestion in Marple.  But surely that's no different from what would happen if the supermarket were right in the centre of the shopping area. 
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« Reply #998 on: October 06, 2011, 07:44:55 PM »

No we have no plans to attend because the governors are not attending so it would be a waste of time, all our questions have been answered by the councillors and planners so it's not worth turning people out to hear what they already know,  so unless Ms Cassidy and the corporation agree to attend, which to date they have not but if they do decide to enter into a question and answer session we will be there !

Sorry    It should have read (I must need glasses). MIA will be attending if it is a question and answer session with the corporation, Ms Cassidy , planners and elected members.  As we don't think Ms Cassidy and the corporation will attend, as they have not responded to anyone not even the councillors  We will be attending to get questions which have recently come to light answered by planners and councillors and this time we want answers not a lecture or a debate, time is ticking !
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« Reply #999 on: October 06, 2011, 07:47:51 PM »

MIA would welcome a new supermarket within the district centre of Marple to provide competition for the Co-op and choice for local residents. This would bring more people into Marple which can only be seen as a good thing for the community and local businesses. Hope that helps clarify things - I don't know how else to make it clearer  Huh

I think what confuses some of us is that one of MIA's main reasons for campaigning against a supermarket on Hibbert Lane is that it would cause greatly increased traffic congestion in Marple.  But surely that's no different from what would happen if the supermarket were right in the centre of the shopping area. 
Ah come to the meeting Dave if you need answers because I will  be getting my questions answered have no doubt about that !
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« Reply #1000 on: October 06, 2011, 07:55:50 PM »

MIA would welcome a new supermarket within the district centre of Marple to provide competition for the Co-op and choice for local residents. This would bring more people into Marple which can only be seen as a good thing for the community and local businesses. Hope that helps clarify things - I don't know how else to make it clearer  Huh

I think what confuses some of us is that one of MIA's main reasons for campaigning against a supermarket on Hibbert Lane is that it would cause greatly increased traffic congestion in Marple.  But surely that's no different from what would happen if the supermarket were right in the centre of the shopping area. 

If a new supermarket were to open within the district centre it would have to be considerably smaller than what could potentially be built on a 8.5 acre site so would not draw as many people from surrounding areas and therefore not increase traffic as much as a larger store on Hibbert Lane would do.
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« Reply #1001 on: October 06, 2011, 08:45:00 PM »

No we have no plans to attend because the governors are not attending so it would be a waste of time, all our questions have been answered by the councillors and planners so it's not worth turning people out to hear what they already know,  so unless Ms Cassidy and the corporation agree to attend, which to date they have not but if they do decide to enter into a question and answer session we will be there !

Sorry    It should have read (I must need glasses). MIA will be attending if it is a question and answer session with the corporation, Ms Cassidy , planners and elected members.  As we don't think Ms Cassidy and the corporation will attend, as they have not responded to anyone not even the councillors  We will be attending to get questions which have recently come to light answered by planners and councillors and this time we want answers not a lecture or a debate, time is ticking !

It was a honest question and you tried to do your usual trick... You answered my question.. "No we have no plans to attend?"   then decided after I said I need glasses to add more on and then try to cover it up. Did you think I didn't know about it?

I try so hard to be polite when you contine to behave in this way!
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« Reply #1002 on: October 06, 2011, 08:56:03 PM »

MIA would welcome a new supermarket within the district centre of Marple to provide competition for the Co-op and choice for local residents. This would bring more people into Marple which can only be seen as a good thing for the community and local businesses. Hope that helps clarify things - I don't know how else to make it clearer  Huh

I think what confuses some of us is that one of MIA's main reasons for campaigning against a supermarket on Hibbert Lane is that it would cause greatly increased traffic congestion in Marple.  But surely that's no different from what would happen if the supermarket were right in the centre of the shopping area. 

If a new supermarket were to open within the district centre it would have to be considerably smaller than what could potentially be built on a 8.5 acre site so would not draw as many people from surrounding areas and therefore not increase traffic as much as a larger store on Hibbert Lane would do.

It wouldn't actually be a supermarket. It would be a large convenience store at best (and there are plenty of those already). There is no room for another supermarket in the centre of Marple. So when MIA say 'we don't mind another supermarket in Marple just not on Hibbert Lane' what they really mean is 'we don't want another supermarket in Marple on the only currently feasible site where one could be built.' Ergo 'we don't want another supermarket in Marple'.
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« Reply #1003 on: October 06, 2011, 08:56:17 PM »

Flipping heck Tina I would be more than a little concerned if you didn't know about it !  Lol.  Grin.   It was just that a few things needed tweaking before we committed, so I made a few phone calls and now it's been tweaked we are attending.  Hey hope the weathers better than tonight  Wink
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« Reply #1004 on: October 06, 2011, 11:08:09 PM »

The problem with MIA is neatly summed up by today's post on the locked 'Latest News' thread, which describes the college's plans as  'our community ruined to satisfy corporate greed.'

The notion that much needed improvements to this community's local college, a public sector body where nearly all of our children and grandchildren do their A levels, are dismissed as 'corporate greed' is a disgraceful distortion of the truth.  I hope that whoever wrote it will reconsider that description and use more appropriate language. 
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