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sooty2

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Re: Tesco / ASDA !!!
« Reply #1748 on: July 06, 2012, 09:21:39 PM »
I'm with you Jethro! Some people couldn't care less and never will. >:( I've heard some people are highly excited about three cases of lager for x amount.


To be fair I can get pretty excited about offers on 3 cases of beer, but do not see the need for them to be available on Hibbert Lane.




Point taken Jethro. But for some it is one of the reasons for Asda to be welcomed :-\ The way I feel at the moment I would prefer a two for one on Henessy Brandy ;D

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« Reply #1747 on: July 06, 2012, 09:12:36 PM »
I'm with you Jethro! Some people couldn't care less and never will. >:( I've heard some people are highly excited about three cases of lager for x amount.
To be fair I can get pretty excited about offers on 3 cases of beer, but do not see the need for them to be available on Hibbert Lane.

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« Reply #1746 on: July 06, 2012, 08:55:13 PM »
I'm with you Jethro! Some people couldn't care less and never will. >:( I've heard some people are highly excited about three cases of lager for x amount.

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« Reply #1745 on: July 06, 2012, 08:44:02 PM »
Who will gain from an ASDA in Marple when a much larger number of people start to shop in Marple? Answer. Everyone except Co-op, Iceland and adjacent residents! The Co-op is Marple’s biggest liability: fine if you are a pensioner and you can shop during the day but infuriating if you try to shop after work when you find that the bread and milk shelves are empty. What do you do after a couple of infuriating visits to the Co-op if you need to shop after work? Answer, you simply never go near to Marple to shop. There is a hell of a lot of money in Marple and in them there hills above and beyond Marple and you see all this trade, every Saturday and Sunday in the great big queues of traffic at Dan Bank traffic lights heading for their weekly food shop at ASDA Stockport and Morrisons Bredbury. 
What is the first thing that many people do when they arrive at ASDA Stockport? Answer, walk right out of the store to the specialist shops to spend money elsewhere on the items ASDA doesn’t stock or for quality items superior to routine ASDA returning later for their shopping trolley. So which shops stand to gain from a massive number changing their routine from shopping in Stockport or Morrisons Bredbury to shopping in Marple? Let’s start with the furthest point out. Marple Book Shop has not been able to compete in the sale of cut-price best sellers for years so it can only gain from an increase in visits from the affluent and literate (ie those not buying bestsellers), the students and the schoolchildren who currently walk to Waterstones from ASDA/TESCO Stockport. Post Office in Marple instead of Merseyway. The stationery shop instead of Rymans on Princes St. The bike shop on Stockport Rd or the walking shop on Market St  instead of Go Outdoors or Alpenstock. The furniture shops, the local branches of the building societies and banks, retail clothing shop, high quality clothing shops on Market St cannot lose and can only gain. Will the gem of Marple ie Hollins hardware profit or lose? Probably both, the Windowlene which is not stocked at the Co-op (can you imagine a cleaning/hardware isle that does not have Windowlene?) might be at ASDA but a lot of items that commuters to Morrisons previously bought from the Homebase next door are, and the cans of paint and wallpaper bought at Homebase as part of the trip to Morrisons will be bought from the decorating shop on High St or Hollins store. 
Getting tired of all of this walking around? So am I so I shall have a drink in one of the coffee shops/cafes/pubs in Marple before I head back to ASDA. Will existing customers change from Littlewoods butchers, the butcher on High St or the two greengrocery shops or the fish van? I think not but additional shoppers in Marple will increase their trade. The comments about more charity shops from objectors never cease but it never ceases to amaze me that they are so popular it is sometimes impossible to get in through the doors. More shopping in Marple means more donations to the charity shops and even more trade. So back to routine weekly shop at ASDA: no comment required, exactly the same as Stockport without the journey. £100+ to provide a tidy profit to ASDA and work for the people who live in Marple who are either unemployed or who currently commute to work at one of the stores in Stockport and find that they can now have a job on their back doorstep. ASDA Marple will generate many more bums on seats on my beloved 394 service, heaven knows that the 394 needs all the help it can get. Who knows, perhaps it should be a condition for planning permission that ASDA pay Stagecoach to extend the 383/384 to the site or even reintroduce a direct service to Hawk Green to bring all these people in Offerton who have had consultation leaflets through their doors to shop and provide jobs in Marple rather than Stockport.  Why should Marple be the only suburb of Stockport without a proper supermarket open from eight till late?



1. Why was there no big campaign for a supermarket prior to the college announcing it's plans?

2. Why should the adjacent residents have their neighbourhood and quality of life altered to make it more convenient people to get their weekly shopping.

3. What guarantee is there that town centre will not suffer from the ADSA development, there are empty shops at present why would a supermarket 50% bigger than the Co-op not have a negative effect on the Town centre.

4. If as you say all these people will come to ASDA in Marple to do their shopping how will that improve the traffic situation.

The proposed new ASDA is not in the Town centre, the majority of people who come from outside Marple, will just go to ASDA park in the ASDA car park, do their weekly shop and go straight home to put in the fridge/freezer.

As so you say the Co-op is the problem, a store other than the Co-op on that site would probably suit the majority of people who prefer the convenience not have to travel outside of Marple.

Over the years as there been a mass exodus of people from Marple because of this lack of a supermarket on Hibbert Lane or other alternative to the co-op.

As there been row upon row of empty house because nobody wants to move here ?

Sorry but the New Supermarket would be a convenience to certain people and not a necessity for anyone.

A new supermarket would have a negative for the quality of life for people living in both the immediate vicinity and Marple in General, would it not set a precedent for future development in the area ?
I think it would just be the 1st step in Marple becoming just another generic suburb in the Greater Manchester urbanisation.

Is it worth it to make it more convenient to buy a cheaper tin of Beans ?


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« Reply #1744 on: July 06, 2012, 04:59:39 PM »
Who will gain from an ASDA in Marple when a much larger number of people start to shop in Marple? Answer. Everyone except Co-op, Iceland and adjacent residents! The Co-op is Marple’s biggest liability: fine if you are a pensioner and you can shop during the day but infuriating if you try to shop after work when you find that the bread and milk shelves are empty. What do you do after a couple of infuriating visits to the Co-op if you need to shop after work? Answer, you simply never go near to Marple to shop. There is a hell of a lot of money in Marple and in them there hills above and beyond Marple and you see all this trade, every Saturday and Sunday in the great big queues of traffic at Dan Bank traffic lights heading for their weekly food shop at ASDA Stockport and Morrisons Bredbury. 
What is the first thing that many people do when they arrive at ASDA Stockport? Answer, walk right out of the store to the specialist shops to spend money elsewhere on the items ASDA doesn’t stock or for quality items superior to routine ASDA returning later for their shopping trolley. So which shops stand to gain from a massive number changing their routine from shopping in Stockport or Morrisons Bredbury to shopping in Marple? Let’s start with the furthest point out. Marple Book Shop has not been able to compete in the sale of cut-price best sellers for years so it can only gain from an increase in visits from the affluent and literate (ie those not buying bestsellers), the students and the schoolchildren who currently walk to Waterstones from ASDA/TESCO Stockport. Post Office in Marple instead of Merseyway. The stationery shop instead of Rymans on Princes St. The bike shop on Stockport Rd or the walking shop on Market St  instead of Go Outdoors or Alpenstock. The furniture shops, the local branches of the building societies and banks, retail clothing shop, high quality clothing shops on Market St cannot lose and can only gain. Will the gem of Marple ie Hollins hardware profit or lose? Probably both, the Windowlene which is not stocked at the Co-op (can you imagine a cleaning/hardware isle that does not have Windowlene?) might be at ASDA but a lot of items that commuters to Morrisons previously bought from the Homebase next door are, and the cans of paint and wallpaper bought at Homebase as part of the trip to Morrisons will be bought from the decorating shop on High St or Hollins store. 
Getting tired of all of this walking around? So am I so I shall have a drink in one of the coffee shops/cafes/pubs in Marple before I head back to ASDA. Will existing customers change from Littlewoods butchers, the butcher on High St or the two greengrocery shops or the fish van? I think not but additional shoppers in Marple will increase their trade. The comments about more charity shops from objectors never cease but it never ceases to amaze me that they are so popular it is sometimes impossible to get in through the doors. More shopping in Marple means more donations to the charity shops and even more trade. So back to routine weekly shop at ASDA: no comment required, exactly the same as Stockport without the journey. £100+ to provide a tidy profit to ASDA and work for the people who live in Marple who are either unemployed or who currently commute to work at one of the stores in Stockport and find that they can now have a job on their back doorstep. ASDA Marple will generate many more bums on seats on my beloved 394 service, heaven knows that the 394 needs all the help it can get. Who knows, perhaps it should be a condition for planning permission that ASDA pay Stagecoach to extend the 383/384 to the site or even reintroduce a direct service to Hawk Green to bring all these people in Offerton who have had consultation leaflets through their doors to shop and provide jobs in Marple rather than Stockport.  Why should Marple be the only suburb of Stockport without a proper supermarket open from eight till late?


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Re: Tesco / ASDA !!!
« Reply #1743 on: July 05, 2012, 08:19:08 PM »
For goodness sake! This has been answered a few posts back:

You are quite right, Mark, that was a mistake. Sorry

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« Reply #1742 on: July 05, 2012, 08:11:39 PM »
Victor, sorry, I don't understand this at all. All I am saying is that someone, not you, recently said on this forum that MIA had been asked not to field a candidate in the local elections. I would like to know who. In the absence of a response I can only assume that it was someone who had somerthing to lose if MIA did field a candidate which narrows the field down considerably.

For goodness sake! This has been answered a few posts back:

Simone I am only answering because it's becoming obvious that you want me to say something that would look like MIA were not credible and possibly working with whoever but no !  It's very simple, MIA is made up of  Business and the community both of who are passionate about stopping a supermarket being built on Hibbert lane.   I wanted to stand a candidate (not me ) it was put to a vote and guess what I was out voted.  So sorry to disappoint with my less than shady account of MIA dealings but that's it in a nut shell.
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« Reply #1741 on: July 05, 2012, 08:03:37 PM »
Alstan,
I was only giving an opinion on the bit that I highlighted in my original post, I also voiced an opinion on an early post as to why I saw it as not appropriate for MIA to field a candidate at the recent local elections. I would suggest if you want to progress this forward you either talk to someone on the MIA stall or start a new thread I do not speak for MIA (although I am sympathetic to their views).

Victor, sorry, I don't understand this at all. All I am saying is that someone, not you, recently said on this forum that MIA had been asked not to field a candidate in the local elections. I would like to know who. In the absence of a response I can only assume that it was someone who had somerthing to lose if MIA did field a candidate which narrows the field down considerably.

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« Reply #1740 on: July 05, 2012, 06:02:38 PM »
I think reading all these recent posts that what miss Marple is saying is that people supporting MIA asked those in MIA not to stand for election?  So a vote? Not quite how it appeared to us lot, we presumed someone in "authority",  but as she clearly wanted someone to stand I can see how she could describe it as being asked NOT to stand...

If that is not the explanation Miss Marple then I think you do need to answer it more clearly!

Having said that, I have seen the particular tactic of campaign groups convinced by the local political party friendly kissing up to the campaign , that it wouldnt be a good idea to stand, lots of times in the past.

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« Reply #1739 on: July 05, 2012, 12:42:18 PM »
Sounds like a good decision from MiA re not fielding a candidate. I and I expect others expect more fromour councillor than concern for a single issue I expect concern for the whole town (Stockport) and I expect an underlying political philosophy be it Liberal/Socialist or whatever. Thats where UKIP fail they have no underlying philosophy just a single issue

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« Reply #1738 on: July 05, 2012, 12:26:26 PM »
There you go I have broken my pledge not to answer questions on here as I leave myself wide open to attack.  Word to the wise more information would be given but some on here take great pleasure in shooting the messenger who sadly is me  ;D
Simone I am only answering because it's becoming obvious that you want me to say something that would look like MIA were not credible and possibly working with whoever but no !  It's very simple, MIA is made up of  Business and the community both of who are passionate about stopping a supermarket being built on Hibbert lane.   I wanted to stand a candidate (not me ) it was put to a vote and guess what I was out voted.  So sorry to disappoint with my less than shady account of MIA dealings but that's it in a nut shell.

Regarding Chadwick street.     When I started MIA there was nothing known about Chadwick street, our aim (community MIA)  was to prevent a supermarket on Hibbert lane, so appalled were we that gifted land was being sold to profit Fat cat supermarkets.  It was only later that I found out that there had always been some form of plan for the post office site and to be honest I was shocked myself that being a resident of Marple I  knew nothing of the long standing plans.


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« Reply #1737 on: July 05, 2012, 11:34:24 AM »
Actually it was just before Christmas that we were banging on about it, at risk of going around in circles again . . .

http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.1155


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« Reply #1736 on: July 05, 2012, 11:22:26 AM »
OK, at the risk of nagging I'll try again from the beginning.

Question to Miss M or any other MIA rep...in a recent,previous post when asked why MIA had not fielded a candidate in the recent elections? Miss M responded by saying that ...MIA were asked NOT to field a candidate... My Question is - Who asked MIA "NOT to field a candidate?

Is that a fair and simple question or am I like Victor contemplating senility? 

Please answer.     

If you can be bothered to trawl through this thread (I for one am not digging the links out  ::)) you will see that MIA have been pulled up for being a rather 'shadowy' organisation on several occasions previously. They demand transparency yet are opaque themselves. It is a shame that they don't seem to be able to grasp this yet.

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« Reply #1735 on: July 05, 2012, 10:40:14 AM »
OK, at the risk of nagging I'll try again from the beginning.

Question to Miss M or any other MIA rep...in a recent,previous post when asked why MIA had not fielded a candidate in the recent elections? Miss M responded by saying that ...MIA were asked NOT to field a candidate... My Question is - Who asked MIA "NOT to field a candidate?

Is that a fair and simple question or am I like Victor contemplating senility? 

Please answer.     

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« Reply #1734 on: July 05, 2012, 09:12:26 AM »
Alstan,
I was only giving an opinion on the bit that I highlighted in my original post, I also voiced an opinion on an early post as to why I saw it as not appropriate for MIA to field a candidate at the recent local elections. I would suggest if you want to progress this forward you either talk to someone on the MIA stall or start a new thread I do not speak for MIA (although I am sympathetic to their views).