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« Reply #90 on: October 11, 2011, 09:10:06 AM »

The same, surely.  They both do a decent cup of coffee, after all.   Tongue
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« Reply #91 on: October 11, 2011, 09:22:52 AM »

The only difference I can see is that Costa are a UK company (owned by Whitbread) and Starbucks are US.
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« Reply #92 on: October 11, 2011, 10:28:10 AM »

The same, surely.  They both do a decent cup of coffee, after all.   Tongue

Yes, but Starbucks is one of those retail organisations often cited negatively by the anti globalisation / anti capitalist lobby. Others would include the big 4 supermarkets but especially Tesco (due to it's buying power and perceived ethics) and Asda (due to the Walmart ownership), McDonalds, KFC etc. There are definite strong connotations with a Starbucks arriving in your town.

It's striking how far this message has seeped into the consciousness of many. You hear lots of people saying 'I'd not like a Tesco/Asda in Marple but an Aldi or a Waitrose would be great'. I don't get it personally, nor do I care for expensive, fancy coffee - instant does me fine.

Anyway, we already have Britain's biggest retailer (by one measure) in Marple which is only a couple of doors down from Hanburys.
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« Reply #93 on: October 11, 2011, 10:57:24 AM »

Yes, but Starbucks is one of those retail organisations often cited negatively by the anti globalisation / anti capitalist lobby. Others would include the big 4 supermarkets but especially Tesco (due to it's buying power and perceived ethics) and Asda (due to the Walmart ownership), McDonalds, KFC etc. There are definite strong connotations with a Starbucks arriving in your town.

It's striking how far this message has seeped into the consciousness of many. You hear lots of people saying 'I'd not like a Tesco/Asda in Marple but an Aldi or a Waitrose would be great'. I don't get it personally...

Neither do I.  And the way these big firms are picked out for vilification seems quite arbitrary sometimes.  For example, Boots seems to hang on to its squeaky clean image, despite the fact that it is now owned by some international private equity set-up based in the tax haven of Zug in Switzerland.  I don't see many people protesting about that!   Wink

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« Reply #94 on: October 11, 2011, 12:16:08 PM »

Whilst I don't object to another coffee shop I don't think it's something we really need as we have a number of good ones already. What is interesting from the Co-Op's point of view is that by splitting the large unit into two, one becoming the coffee shop and the other still available, they ensure that what is left is certainly not big enough to provide any competition for themselves.
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« Reply #95 on: October 11, 2011, 03:04:21 PM »

What is interesting from the Co-Op's point of view is that by splitting the large unit into two, one becoming the coffee shop and the other still available, they ensure that what is left is certainly not big enough to provide any competition for themselves.

I agree and that was my 1st thought when somebody posted that the Co-op were 'now listening' by letting half of it out. It's very half hearted. It's not really doing them any favours as surely they would prefer a smaller store as competition rather than a huge Asda (or whoever it is)?
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« Reply #96 on: October 11, 2011, 04:09:01 PM »

A smaller supermarket would still provide some much needed competition to the Co-op.  I think some of the supporters of the 'no' campaign suggested a supermarket within the 'retail zone' in Marple although I don't know where as there isn't any obvious retail space large enough.  I don't think the Co-op could compete with another supermarket within the 'retail zone'  and potentially we could end up with yet another empty (and very prominent) retail space.  I would prefer to shop at a smaller tesco/sainsbury/asda etc rather than put up with the high prices and poof quality of the larger Co-op.
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« Reply #97 on: October 11, 2011, 04:31:25 PM »

Yes MIA reported this sometime back
The plans are that now the building is split in half Costa will have half the building and the other half is being actively  marketed.   Unless things have changed , but that's what MIA was informed by Coop head office nearly 3 months ago !

Hmm.. did MIA post that info on here? you'll have to show me where Miss M.

I did a search on the forum and couldn't find any mention of Costa taking 'Hanbury's' space.. or anyone tbf.

anyhow, the actual information is now provided, along with all plans/drawings etc.

Tricky In Action..   ;)august 4 . miss marple posted re hanburys site .
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« Reply #98 on: October 11, 2011, 04:41:12 PM »

I don't think it matters who 1st posted about it, It just got lost amongst the other topics. End of the day its ANOTHER cafe/coffee shop what we don't need! is anyone going to protest about it, because it could put other cafes out of business?Huh .... No I didn't think so!
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« Reply #99 on: October 11, 2011, 04:48:45 PM »

There are not enough hours in the day for me at the moment,But if you would like to protest eventhough it's probably too late, I'm sure lots of people will support you!Yes it is awful when the big firms move in, for example one of the big four supermarkets will almost certainly put a lot of small shops out of business.I think this town is in a bad place at the moment as are lots of homeowners that will be looking out on to a supermarket.
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« Reply #100 on: October 11, 2011, 04:58:55 PM »

There are not enough hours in the day for me at the moment,But if you would like to protest eventhough it's probably too late, I'm sure lots of people will support you!

I think u missed my sarcasm
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« Reply #101 on: October 11, 2011, 04:59:46 PM »

Yes MIA reported this sometime back
The plans are that now the building is split in half Costa will have half the building and the other half is being actively  marketed.   Unless things have changed , but that's what MIA was informed by Coop head office nearly 3 months ago !

Hmm.. did MIA post that info on here? you'll have to show me where Miss M.

I did a search on the forum and couldn't find any mention of Costa taking 'Hanbury's' space.. or anyone tbf.

anyhow, the actual information is now provided, along with all plans/drawings etc.

Tricky In Action..   ;)august 4 . miss marple posted re hanburys site .

I think we've covered that Amazon.

MM did point out that she'd posted a (vague) message about an independant coffee shop.

I'm not sure why she's bothered about the fact she was first? You'd have to ask her. I certainly wasn't trying to steal her thunder.

My mistake was searching for "Costa" who are to be the actual occupiers. Further than that, all I did was provide the detail and a link to the relevent documents.

You see, to me, the important things are the actual facts. (which is probably why I'm not totally committed to the NO campaign (yet!))


Personally I'm glad Costa is coming to Marple..  good product, good name.  I bet it brings people into the village too.

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« Reply #102 on: October 11, 2011, 07:24:28 PM »

SHE ! was aving a laff with ya !  Grin
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« Reply #103 on: October 11, 2011, 08:27:14 PM »

I don't think the Co-op could compete with another supermarket within the 'retail zone'  and potentially we could end up with yet another empty (and very prominent) retail space.

If the Co-Op decided to vacate their current site it wouldn't be empty for long before Tesco, Asda or Sainsburys moved in. It's a prime location for a supermarket and there's room to expand it into a bigger store too.
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« Reply #104 on: October 12, 2011, 01:34:22 PM »

The "Hanburys...you heard it first" thread has been merged into this "Hanburys - Co-op" thread to keep it tidy.
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