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 on: April 13, 2014, 09:16:00 PM 
Started by I am the Walrus - Last post by Phil
"I am", sorry but you are demonstrating by action my fears stated earlier in this thread. You have 9 posts to your name. Every single one on this thread. Every single one castigating NUHOPE. Perhaps you may want to consider contributing to other topics involving the community?

Incidentally, I can't help but notice you seem to be getting very curt responses from the school - for example I'll pretty much guarantee that no authority in the UK would ever answer a genuine question from me with the phrase "because we don't have to". Could it be that somehow you have exhausted THEIR patience (as much as they have exhausted yours)?

You also state that you have been "told" that one of the NUHOPE sessions had 80 students in it. How close exactly are you to the school and/or the regime? Who was it that told you (and how reliable would they be considered by an impartial audience)?

As I said earlier, I may actually agree with you but it is hard to see this as a balanced platform where any supporters of NUHOPE are welcomed to stick their head above the parapet.

RH

 32 
 on: April 13, 2014, 08:14:04 PM 
Started by thebigshed - Last post by Melancholyflower
Given that horses were used to tow barges back in the day, I would guess that towpaths are classed as bridleways in practice.

 33 
 on: April 13, 2014, 06:59:50 PM 
Started by Howard - Last post by willow
Does anyone have any updates as to what is happening with The George? All name signs have been taken down now.

 34 
 on: April 13, 2014, 12:44:53 PM 
Started by Mr Marple - Last post by amazon
This is the thread you are referring to Amazon: http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=2999.0

The council own the recreation ground (on behalf of the community).

As it says on the water fountain on the Rec, "The land for this recreation ground was presented by W. B (Walter Bright) Hodgkinson Esq JP". "The cost of erecting the buildings and laying out the children's corner was bourne by Thomas Carver Esq, late of Marple."

I understand that there are covenants on the land similar / the same as those on Memorial Park. They proved most successful in preventing the council selling the park cottage or it being used for commercial purposes and ultimately contributed to the fantastic outcome of it being officially opened soon as the new home of the Brass Bands of Marple. However, it could easily have led to it being left to decay and fall down, which seemed to be the council's own plan for dealing with it before the bands came to the rescue.

I haven't seen the covenants covering the Rec. I think that covenants on their own may not be enough to stop a council determined to sell the land for commercial use but it would give a great deal of strength to anyone who wanted to fight them. But I'm speaking generally here - personally I'd be very surprised (and disappointed) if SMBC were thinking of disposing of this community land that's been in their care for more than 100 years.

Incidentally, the Friends of Memorial Park restored and refurbished the two picnic benches on the Rec last year using money from Marple Area Committee. I would suggest that if we hadn't done this the benches would have been removed too. We also arranged for the water fountain to be cleaned by Karcher. What the Rec really needs is a Friends group of its own to take ownership and fight its corner.

Thank you .

 35 
 on: April 13, 2014, 11:48:21 AM 
Started by Peter - Last post by admin
16 new images of Mellor Mill and surrounds have been added to the Virtual Tour this morning:

http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/thumbnails.php?album=lastup&cat=-10

They include this much better version of one that was already on-line:


 36 
 on: April 13, 2014, 10:02:13 AM 
Started by Mr Marple - Last post by simonesaffron
Apparently, some months ago a child (not in Marple) had an accident in one of the children's play parks. As a consequence The Council had all the play-park apparatus inspected across the borough and some of it was condemned as unsafe. So for the last week or so workman have been going around the borough dismantling and removing condemned equipment.

So it isn't just Marple it is the whole of Stockport.

Under those circumstances their actions are perfectly understandable. I would though have thought that they could find the small amount of money required to replace them. Especially with local elections around the corner and particularly when the ruling group is proclaiming in their pre-election leaflets....."£100 Million Pothole Jackpot." ...."eight year plan of action being drawn up." 

 37 
 on: April 13, 2014, 09:10:12 AM 
Started by I am the Walrus - Last post by I am the Walrus
I'm with marpleexile on this - the actual reason for the NuHope detention may not be quite the same as the reason that the child chooses to pass on to their parents. I'm sure that the school form teachers would be happy to supply the original reasons if asked.

NUHOPE detentions are served on the day of the "offence", straight after school, which is incredibly inconvenient for anyone who has lifts arranged for their children, or who has appointments arranged for after school etc. When asked why 24 hours notice can't be given the response is "because we don't have to" this doesn't help engender a healthy working cohesion between school and parent. There has been a ridiculous situation last year when a friend of mine was told her child MUST serve the NUHOPE instead of going to pre-arranged after-school catch-up lessons (arranged and hosted by school to help some students improve their grades ready for options)!!

Parents are notified by text, on the day, if their child has received NUHOPE(s) and the reason for the detention is given AND as perviously stated by other parents; if we enquire about the NUHOPE or ring school to ask to postpone, we are given the circumstances of the "offence".

Some of the reasons are so silly that some of the students will actually "apeal" on the day to the Head of NUHOPE and have the detention punishment removed BUT the whole act of having to go through that really impinges on a child's day, on their school routine, and more importantly, on their trust & respect for the staff and the system!

Personally, I think NuHope is just a little bit silly and will eventually get reworked into something less rigid and institutional, if only because it gets costly in staff time to police it. Like Simone, I can't see it being inflicted on future sixth formers. On the whole Marple Hall is a good school and parental involvement in children's education to be recommended.

I am told that one of the NUHOPE sessons last week had around 80 students in it and occupied two classrooms!! So, thats approx 80 text messages, 80 amounts of time spent giving out the NUHOPE, likely 80 amounts of time with the student being less productive as they feel slightly embittered about receiving a NUHOPE, at least two members of staff to run the two classrooms, 80 sets of NUHOPE records to be updated, probably a fair number of phone calls being fielded, by staff, from parents who have received a text message and are unhappy about the reasons given or about the inconvenience of serving a NUHOPE on that particular night (can't it be tomorrow etc.) and the added knowledge that this may so easily happen all over again the next day!

Is it working? Really??

As Ofsted said in 2013:


" in some instances, students, while compliant, lacked self-motivation, drive or a thirst to acquire new knowledge."


 38 
 on: April 13, 2014, 08:35:41 AM 
Started by Mr Marple - Last post by admin
There was some work done on strines  road a few years ago .and didn't the councill use the top end for storage
Plant etc . And someone brought this up about reinstating it back to what it was .they had to ask someone for permission .to use .

Admin it's in the postings some were can you look please .Thank you .
Marple civic society may be able to help who owns this land .

This is the thread you are referring to Amazon: http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=2999.0

The council own the recreation ground (on behalf of the community).

As it says on the water fountain on the Rec, "The land for this recreation ground was presented by W. B (Walter Bright) Hodgkinson Esq JP". "The cost of erecting the buildings and laying out the children's corner was bourne by Thomas Carver Esq, late of Marple."

I understand that there are covenants on the land similar / the same as those on Memorial Park. They proved most successful in preventing the council selling the park cottage or it being used for commercial purposes and ultimately contributed to the fantastic outcome of it being officially opened soon as the new home of the Brass Bands of Marple. However, it could easily have led to it being left to decay and fall down, which seemed to be the council's own plan for dealing with it before the bands came to the rescue.

I haven't seen the covenants covering the Rec. I think that covenants on their own may not be enough to stop a council determined to sell the land for commercial use but it would give a great deal of strength to anyone who wanted to fight them. But I'm speaking generally here - personally I'd be very surprised (and disappointed) if SMBC were thinking of disposing of this community land that's been in their care for more than 100 years.

Incidentally, the Friends of Memorial Park restored and refurbished the two picnic benches on the Rec last year using money from Marple Area Committee. I would suggest that if we hadn't done this the benches would have been removed too. We also arranged for the water fountain to be cleaned by Karcher. What the Rec really needs is a Friends group of its own to take ownership and fight its corner.

 39 
 on: April 12, 2014, 09:16:21 PM 
Started by Mr Marple - Last post by amazon
Correction to the above - the rec was a gift by a private benefactor, Mr Hodgkinson by name. and the work was paid for by the owners of Hollins Mill. There must have been a covenant but local authorities have overthrown covenants before.

There was some work done on strines  road a few years ago .and didn't the councill use the top end for storage
Plant etc . And someone brought this up about reinstating it back to what it was .they had to ask someone for permission .to use .

Admin it's in the postings some were can you look please .Thank you .
Marple civic society may be able to help who owns this land .

 40 
 on: April 12, 2014, 09:08:31 PM 
Started by thebigshed - Last post by amazon
Grin

Some years ago (About 20) there was a draught horse called "Majestic" who pulled a wagon giving rides to visitors through the town of  Beaumaris, Anglesey. He used to wear a "poo catcher", too.

Incidentally. if the path in question is officially designated a "footpath" horses should not be ridden (or led or driven) on it. It's one of the oddities of English law that people can walk along bridlepaths but horses can't walk along footpaths.

So what's a canal towpath designated as . I've used spell check this time .

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