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Councillor Kenny,

The coalition was formed in 2010. Councillor Patrick was first elected to office as a Labour Councillor for the Manor Ward in 2011. He served for about a year then resigned from the Labour party citing personal financial pressure as his reason. He then sat as an Independent for a short time before joining the Libdems where he served/serves on the Executive.

He didn't object to the coalition - he joined it.
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@Hoffnung suggest you check your facts in relation to defections. 3 Lib Dem Concillors defected to Labour in protest at the decision to enter coalition. Patrick Macauley defected from Lab to Lib Dem.

The coalition was  formed in 2010. Councillor Patrick was first elected to office in 201, a year after. He spent about 18 months as a Labour Councillor, then citing 'financial pressure' he left the labour party, sat as an independent for a short time, then joined the libdem, in fact serving on the Executive. So he didn't object to the coalition - he joined it. 

As for the old chestnut about having a full time job and being a Councillor, I have answered that elsewhere on this forum. I manage just fine and is a combination of effective time management, a flexible employer, a very understanding family and modern technology. When I was in Germany this week, I was informed about the fly tipping on Middlewood. I managed to contact Council Officers all the way from Germany and advise them about this and arrange for it to get moved. How is that letting my constituents down?

An effective Councillor needs to be in his ward and around the council in person 15/20 hours (office hours), so that he can engage with officers) once a councillor is established as an 'email councillor' officers will start to fob him off, if not ignore him altogether. Getting a bit of flytip sorted is not an irrelevance but it is a minor issue and well done for managing it although I suspect the other 5 Marple Councillors might feel that they had some influence too.

There will though be issues where in order to manage them you will need to have a series of face to face meetings with different sets of officers 11am weekday meetings at the town hall, 2pm weekday site meetings and many more. These can't be effectively managed by email from Hamburg.   
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@Hoffnung - yes, I'd find it difficult to have a full-time job too, but it's possible and not for me to judge.

I would like to hear (with your insight - I mean that!) what you think makes a good councillor now that you are free to speak your mind.

Having had no experience as a Councillor myself Geoff, I can't help you there.
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Councillor Kenny,

You're getting yourself all rattled over a bit of a tease.

Nobody has ever said that you 'lied' that word has not been used, certainly not by me and I don't think by anybody else.

Neither do I hold your presumed 'Typical politician' view. In fact I have known a few politicians over the years and have a great respect for many of them. Voicing your disagreement within your party in a locked room is one thing, pursuing that disagreement into a vote in public view and record and against the party line is another and my own personal experience and research tells me that it rarely happens.

That is all I am saying. 
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Local Issues / Re: A Neighbourhood Plan for Marple
« Last post by Condate on February 08, 2016, 09:26:42 AM »
As we are all aware, lots more housing is needed. This is an opportunity to help shape how and where this may be provided.

Well, I'd certainly oppose more than a minimum of new housing, as we seem to have an excess of new house building already.  If producing a neighbourhood plan allows local people to decide whether we need new housing and if so, how much, that can only be a good thing. Of course that won't be the case and in fact the wishes of local people will be ignored at usual and a level of new housing imposed from above.

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Local Issues / Re: A Neighbourhood Plan for Marple
« Last post by simonesaffron on February 08, 2016, 08:28:10 AM »
As we are all aware, lots more housing is needed. This is an opportunity to help shape how and where this may be provided.

Why is lots more housing needed in Marple ?
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Local Issues / Re: A Neighbourhood Plan for Marple
« Last post by JohnBates on February 07, 2016, 04:02:22 PM »
This is a very important initiative, and I would urge residents to attend the information week at Marple library to find out more.
If we do not have a locally decided Neighbourhood Plan then we will have to accept whatever Stockport Council and the Devolved Greater Manchester region may decide for future developments in the area.

From a document published and distributed to local groups by Marple Civic Society: www.marplecivicsociety.org.uk

A Neighbourhood Forum would give the people of Marple a stake in their future. But this requires people to come forward and become members of the Neighbourhood Forum. To help this process and enable people and local groups to join a Forum, the Civic Society is organising an Action and Information Week from the 14th March to the 19th March. This will include:
  • A week long exhibition at the Public Library
  • A Question and Answer Presentation on Saturday 19th March at the Library (between 10am to 2.00pm - time to be confirmed)
  • Visits from surrounding towns that are working on their own Neighbourhood Plans,
  • A Stakeholder Meeting on the 17th of March.
  • A presentation to Area Committee on the 16th March



As we are all aware, lots more housing is needed. This is an opportunity to help shape how and where this may be provided.
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Interesting that you got a more informative response than I did after reporting it via the Fly Tipping on-line form.
I've had no feedback on either of the reports I've submitted.
Also the on-line link is still showing the Fly Tip report as "report received", not "complete" as you'd expect.

What email address did you sent your report to @nipper14  ?
It seems to be more effective than the form. What do you think @CllrGeoffAbell ?

I went into the SMBC website, searched fly tipping,completed the fly tipping report form and obtained a reference number. I must admit I was surprised to receive a phone call the same afternoon.
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Well Councillor you should care about comments made by your constituents even if you don't agree with them, you're supposed to care.

Once again @simonesaffron  you try to twist my words. I didn't say I didn't care about your or any other constituents comments. I said I didn't care how you viewed my comments in relation to this topic about meetings and toeing the party line as you stated you viewed them with scepticism. All i can do is provide you with the information I have and whether you believe it or not is up to you. You have no reason to doubt me as I have not lied to you before but you are probably basing your assumptions on the fact I am an elected representative and therefore classed as a 'Typical politician.' Your choice.
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@simonesaffron view my comments however you want, I don't really care.

Well Councillor you should care about comments made by your constituents even if you don't agree with them, you're supposed to care.

Hoffnung, though raises an interesting point concerning councillors when it comes to voting for/against the party line which I must admit I had never really thought about. In the example you quoted Hoffnung, how many did, do you know the answer? 
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