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Slightly off-topic but, historically, Marple and district did have coal mines, the product of which powered the local mills until the coming of the railways when cheaper coal was available from further afield. In fact the last one, albeit a very small one-man band, was still in production in the early 1980s according to a report I read in one of the local papers at the time. Marple coal was said to be of very good quality

More about it here: http://www.marplelocalhistorysociety.org.uk/2012-publications/industrial-history-of-marple/143-coal-mining-in-marple-and-mellor.html

I think Mr rambler may have been exagerating the impact on the unemployed numbers with the Thatcherite attack on Marple's coal industry
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Events / Tai Chi @Marple Memorial Park Closed 20/12/14~04/01/15
« Last post by Chi Energy on Today at 12:31:01 AM »
All Tai Chi classes will be closed during the Christmas and New Year season, from 20th December 2014, will re-start on Monday, 5th January 2015. Wish everybody Merry Christmas and Have a Happy New Year!

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System Announcements / Re: Forum Upgrade 15 December 2014
« Last post by My login is Henrietta on Today at 12:14:51 AM »
That explains it. I thought my screen's resolution had gone a bit haywire. :)

A bit easier on the eye now the colours have softened.
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Admittedly I haven't been around for too long, but, I can't ever remember coal mining being a staple industry of Marple.

Slightly off-topic but, historically, Marple and district did have coal mines, the product of which powered the local mills until the coming of the railways when cheaper coal was available from further afield. In fact the last one, albeit a very small one-man band, was still in production in the early 1980s according to a report I read in one of the local papers at the time. Marple coal was said to be of very good quality
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Government funding for local government has fallen by around 40% in real terms since 2010 alone.  But of course, on Planet Duke there's no inflation is there!   
 
As for his replies about the jobs, it's just the usual Dukey waffle and bluster.

Dave, do you always talk in the 3rd person? It always appears you are snitching behind people's back instead of addressing them face to face. It does not reflect well on you.

The point on the jobs was that there seems to be plenty unskilled jobs available within the local authority, the comments on jobs were just to add a bit of colour.

40% fall since 2010 would be great is only it were true. Money was thrown at favoured local authorities by the last govt with very little effectiveness, in fact it was under the coalition when spending peeked in 2011 at £176bn, the coalition has managed to reduce this to £168bn, nowhere near the 40%. More cuts are needed, on hte whole, local authorities have coped well but some like Labour led manchester have show utter incompetence in prioritising cuts and have cut front line services whilst spending £1/2m on an Alicia Keys concerts for council staff and B list celebs.
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Hazel Grove Elections May 2015 / Re: Hazel Grove - General Political Discussion
« Last post by Dave on Yesterday at 06:14:50 PM »
although there have been cuts in local authorities, the funding is still at 2007 levels

Government funding for local government has fallen by around 40% in real terms since 2010 alone.  But of course, on Planet Duke there's no inflation is there!   
 
As for his replies about the jobs, it's just the usual Dukey waffle and bluster. 
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Duke,

I've just had a look at Stockport Councils plethora of jobs, I know, I should go out more. With two or three exceptions they are all in education: Head teachers, Deputy Head teachers, teachers, teaching assistant. Are you saying that the council is creating these jobs unnecessarily. Surely an individual school knows whether it needs a Head Teacher or not. These schools have boards of governors, these governors aren't fools are they?

What are you saying? That these jobs don't really exist. Are you saying that they don't really need a Head Teacher at Vernon Park School, that they don't need a caretaker at Our Lady's Catholic Primary or that they don't really need two teachers at Westmorland Primary? That they are just pretending that they do for reasons best known to themselves.

Or are you saying that these posts are really already filled and that the Council is just duplicating them to create employment and that when the new Head arrives at Vernon Park the old one will still be in post but nobody will actually notice ?

14-19 coordinator - a job that seems to be doing what parents should be doing.

Conservation Management Trainee -  a trainee in a dept that is a chronic waste of time and the whole lot should be sacked

2 x CSS Officer, a job in a department that should be privatised

Libraries trainee - well OK

some dinner lady roles

loads of Social Workers

Safeguarding Adults Service Manager -

Social Care Lawyer -

Foster carers

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Duke,

I've just had a look at Stockport Councils plethora of jobs, I know, I should go out more. With two or three exceptions they are all in education: Head teachers, Deputy Head teachers, teachers, teaching assistant. Are you saying that the council is creating these jobs unnecessarily. Surely an individual school knows whether it needs a Head Teacher or not. These schools have boards of governors, these governors aren't fools are they?

What are you saying? That these jobs don't really exist. Are you saying that they don't really need a Head Teacher at Vernon Park School, that they don't need a caretaker at Our Lady's Catholic Primary or that they don't really need two teachers at Westmorland Primary? That they are just pretending that they do for reasons best known to themselves.

Or are you saying that these posts are really already filled and that the Council is just duplicating them to create employment and that when the new Head arrives at Vernon Park the old one will still be in post but nobody will actually notice ? 
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System Announcements / Re: Forum Upgrade 15 December 2014
« Last post by amazon on Yesterday at 04:00:26 PM »
Actually, it's not just you,  Amazon. Mark and I fix quite a lot of posts from people who accidentally delete brackets from the "quote" tags. Always use the "preview" button!

Thanks Howard i will try to do that .



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As far as I am aware Duke, virtually all councils have had to make severe budget cuts, and this will have been done, I am sure, by redundancies. So your assertion that council's are employing more people than ever is probably just that, an assertion.

My point, rather badly made, was that although there have been cuts in local authorities, the funding is still at 2007 levels which was not exactly starving local authorities and they were well into the Labour program of creating jobs to keep the employment figures looking good. A quick glance at Stockport Council job page still has a plethora of jobs for those who perhaps didn't try too hard at school. Personally, I disagree with the idea that the local council should be employer of last resort and spending money just to keep the willing unemployable busy, it simply pushes costs up for other employers.

I am also amazed that somebody would even consider voting for a party that they know just can't win. What really is the point in that. Andrew S's statement that Labour can't win here is far from 'dead in the water, ( I personally wish it was) It is the opposite of being that, it is absolutely true, and that is why the Libdems keep peddling it because they know that it is a fact and it squeezes the labour vote for them. It might not squeeze as many as it used to but they obviously think that the number is still significant. Nobody says LD's, Conservative or UKIP CAN'T WIN because we all know that any of them might do.

I disagree, surely people should vote on the policy they agree with or past performance. I'm not voting for Labour simply because their policies do not add up, all the things they've promised in opposition cannot be paid for by a mansion tax and there seems to be some doubt as to how this mansion tax will work in any case. Those who have a big house but can't afford the mansion tax can defer it until they die!! I also take on board the absolute pig's ear they made of the Economy when the Scottish PM was in charge and I look at the key personnel, IMHO the leader is terrible, the shadow chancellor is a liar, a nasty piece of work and I suspect has a fair chunk of corruption juice on his hands from the days of the bank crisis and LIBOR.

Ironically I think Michael wouldn't be a bad Tory MP and could vote for him with a blue rosette. I'm likely to vote Lib dem as I think some of them have been very good in coalition.

Some people seem to be voting for something that others are saying is being offered but the reality of it is that it isn't - such as a Labour MP for Marple. There is absolutely no such offer, I only wish there were.

You have a point here, From what I know of Michael, he's a one nation Tory / European style Christian democrat so a vote for Labour here is a vote for a one nation Tory but the scary thing is that it could let in a Labour government.
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