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Local Community => Local Issues => Hazel Grove Elections May 2015 => Topic started by: corium on March 17, 2017, 01:48:20 PM

Title: Election expenses
Post by: corium on March 17, 2017, 01:48:20 PM
I hadn't realised the current investigations over election expenditure  returns were quite so close to home!

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/probe-2015-election-expenses-involves-12754696
Title: Re: Election expenses
Post by: amazon on March 17, 2017, 02:07:04 PM
I hadn't realised the current investigations over election expenditure  returns were quite so close to home!

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/probe-2015-election-expenses-involves-12754696
what has this to do with Marple website its a junk news paper evening news .
Title: Re: Election expenses
Post by: nbt on March 17, 2017, 04:42:39 PM
what has this to do with Marple website its a junk news paper evening news .

from that article -

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The M.E.N. has now learned Hazel Grove MP William Wragg and Cheadle MP Mary Robinson have also been investigated - and that their cases will be reviewed by prosecutors.

William Wragg is MP for Marple, is he not?
Title: Re: Election expenses
Post by: sgk on March 17, 2017, 05:00:48 PM

Guardian also reporting on the William Wragg expenses issue
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/16/tory-mps-election-spending-karl-mccartney-william-wragg (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/16/tory-mps-election-spending-karl-mccartney-william-wragg)


Two Conservative MPs, Karl McCartney and William Wragg, have confirmed that files relating to their election expenses are among those sent to prosecutors after a 10-month police investigation into allegations of electoral fraud.
Police are understood to have interviewed both MPs under caution...

And ITV
http://www.itv.com/news/granada/update/2017-03-16/who-paid-for-the-battle-bus-three-north-west-mps-could-be-under-investigation-over-expenses/ (http://www.itv.com/news/granada/update/2017-03-16/who-paid-for-the-battle-bus-three-north-west-mps-could-be-under-investigation-over-expenses/)


Tonight the Hazel Grove MP William Wragg confirmed to Granada Reports his name has been passed to the crown prosecution service.
Title: Re: Election expenses
Post by: Condate on March 17, 2017, 05:14:52 PM
I hadn't realised the current investigations over election expenditure  returns were quite so close to home!

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/probe-2015-election-expenses-involves-12754696

As I mentioned in another thread, that fact that all three main parties have been fined over election expenses at the General Election, does suggest that the rules are confusing and over complicated.
Title: Re: Election expenses
Post by: amazon on March 17, 2017, 09:34:08 PM
from that article -

William Wragg is MP for Marple, is he not?
So whats your problem .
Title: Re: Election expenses
Post by: Dave on March 18, 2017, 07:29:06 AM
The problem is that if the offence is found to be sufficiently serious it could lead to criminal prosecution and possible imprisonment and a by-election.
Title: Re: Election expenses
Post by: simonesaffron on March 18, 2017, 07:44:29 AM
It's not our problem Amazon, it's the problem of William Wragg and the Conservative party.
Title: Re: Election expenses
Post by: JMC on March 18, 2017, 02:52:52 PM
The problem is that if the offence is found to be sufficiently serious it could lead to criminal prosecution and possible imprisonment and a by-election.

I doubt the Tories will do so well next time.
Title: Re: Election expenses
Post by: corium on March 18, 2017, 03:04:40 PM
It's not our problem Amazon, it's the problem of William Wragg and the Conservative party.

Actually it is. Whatever the ins and outs/ rights and wrongs & the eventual decision by the CPS, sorting it out will take time & effort and that is time & effort that will not be spent representing or helping constituents
Title: Re: Election expenses
Post by: Hoffnung on March 18, 2017, 05:40:55 PM
Actually it is. Whatever the ins and outs/ rights and wrongs & the eventual decision by the CPS, sorting it out will take time & effort and that is time & effort that will not be spent representing or helping constituents

Pedantry Cerium, Pedantry.
Title: Re: Election expenses
Post by: amazon on March 18, 2017, 10:08:56 PM
It's not our problem Amazon, it's the problem of William Wragg and the Conservative party.
your right so why is everyone going on about it . so how mutch has he suposed to have claimed .
Title: Re: Election expenses
Post by: Dave on March 19, 2017, 11:10:19 AM
I doubt the Tories will do so well next time.

They will do a lot worse, because Hazel Grove voted remain in the referendum. Watch out for a Lib Dem revival here.
Title: Re: Election expenses
Post by: DarranPalmer on March 19, 2017, 12:19:26 PM
They will do a lot worse, because Hazel Grove voted remain in the referendum. Watch out for a Lib Dem revival here.

Hazel Grove constituency voted leave overall in the referendum. Stockport as a whole voted 52% remain but that includes 3 constituencies
Title: Re: Election expenses
Post by: Dave on March 19, 2017, 01:56:12 PM
I stand corrected, Darran. Nonetheless, it must have been close, if the overall vote for Stockport was still remain.  So we can still expect the significant number of remain voters to consider voting Lib Dem next time.
Title: Re: Election expenses
Post by: sgk on March 19, 2017, 02:51:17 PM
Hazel Grove constituency voted leave overall in the referendum. Stockport as a whole voted 52% remain but that includes 3 constituencies

Just curious, where was the Hazel Grove voted leave overall result published Darran ?
Title: Re: Election expenses
Post by: ringi on March 19, 2017, 06:45:25 PM
I doubt the Tories will do so well next time.

Other then voting Tories how can anyone insure that Jeremy Corbyn does not become part of the next government ….
Likewise I am not happy to vote for any part that may allow the SNP to interfere with the government of the UK, as they don’t care about what’s best for England.

Sadly the above does not leave much choose on whom I vote for…..
Title: Re: Election expenses
Post by: corium on March 19, 2017, 07:01:45 PM
Just curious, where was the Hazel Grove voted leave overall result published Darran ?

There is some data here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum,_2016

Not easy to find as you need to scroll down quite some way -quicker to do "control F" and search for william wragg
Title: Re: Election expenses
Post by: sgk on March 19, 2017, 09:00:39 PM
There is some data here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum,_2016 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum,_2016)

Not easy to find as you need to scroll down quite some way -quicker to do "control F" and search for william wragg
Thanks, just what I was after.
    (http://i.imgur.com/euwbcpx.jpg)
Title: Re: Election expenses
Post by: Dave on March 20, 2017, 11:32:03 AM
Likewise I am not happy to vote for any part that may allow the SNP to interfere with the government of the UK, as they don’t care about what’s best for England.

'Interfere' - what a curious word!  54 of the 59 Scottish seats in the UK parliament are held by SNP MPs. They are representing the people who voted for them. That is not 'interfering with the government of the UK'.  It's democracy. 
Title: Re: Election expenses
Post by: Duke Fame on May 03, 2017, 06:01:31 PM
I'm not sure what he spent the money on, his campaign wasn't exactly high profile.