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Title: NatWest, Marple
Post by: Harry on December 02, 2016, 08:58:48 AM
The MEN has reported that a number of NatWest branches are to close.

Marple's NatWest is scheduled to close on 4th July 2017.

With their derisory interest rates and branch closures it appears RBS are in terminal decline.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: older-and-wider on December 02, 2016, 10:02:20 AM
I was gutted when, a year or so after moving to Marple, the local branch of HSBC closed down.

But then I was alright about it when a Domino's opened in it's place ;D
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: Howard on December 02, 2016, 10:42:44 AM
So Marple will be left with just two bank branches? RBS on Market St and Barclays on The Hollins.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: amazon on December 02, 2016, 01:22:22 PM
The MEN has reported that a number of NatWest branches are to close.

Marple's NatWest is scheduled to close on 4th July 2017.

With their derisory interest rates and branch closures it appears RBS are in terminal decline.
RBS are not closing [yet]
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: amazon on December 02, 2016, 01:23:45 PM
So Marple will be left with just two bank branches? RBS on Market St and Barclays on The Hollins.
online banking contacless cards are not helping .
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: older-and-wider on December 02, 2016, 01:49:06 PM
online banking contacless cards are not helping .

Doesn't help that my Nan usually sends birthday money in the form of a cheque - when will they be abolished  ;D (cheques, not Nan's...)
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: Harry on December 02, 2016, 02:18:47 PM
RBS are not closing [yet]
RBS branches are for sale. The RBS Group was ordered to sell them by the EU after our government bailed them out.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: ringi on December 02, 2016, 02:42:37 PM
So Marple will be left with just two bank branches? RBS on Market St and Barclays on The Hollins.

We have Nationwide as well.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: amazon on December 02, 2016, 08:52:36 PM
We have Nationwide as well.
can you use Nationwide as a bank cheques standing orders etc .
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: Enigmawatcher on December 02, 2016, 09:06:42 PM
I think the RBS branch are going to change into a Williams & Glyn?

Yes you can use Nationwide for cheques, regular banking etc
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: admin on December 03, 2016, 06:28:00 AM
can you use Nationwide as a bank cheques standing orders etc .
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: corium on December 03, 2016, 10:30:41 AM
Admin

Yes. The only difficulty we had was over the deposit of cheques as these are supposed to be done nia a  machine...which the branch doesn't have. However this was some time ago & after taking it up with staff this hasn't been a problem.

M
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: admin on December 03, 2016, 10:03:17 PM
Not sure why it didn't show, must have had finger trouble, but what I intended to post earlier was:

can you use Nationwide as a bank cheques standing orders etc .

Yes, and if you transfer your current account to Nationwide you get £100 bonus, so could be worth doing if you like to be able to visit a local branch.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: Mr Marple on December 05, 2016, 11:31:41 AM
Just received such info and a lot of people will be angry. Natwest closing their banks causes me to ask if any other bank will follow suit and, if so, how long will it be before Marple gets affected?
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: rsh on December 05, 2016, 02:02:47 PM
New Mills also closes on 3rd July 2017. Its Barclays branch closed last year. Only Lloyds holding on there (I think).

Disley's NatWest closed a few years ago now and remains empty in a prominent spot, so that's all that'd worry me for Marple. We don't really need even this many bank branches these days, but it's finding new uses for the buildings...

Meanwhile I also highly recommend Nationwide for both their Marple branch and their banking practices (and the £100 switch!), if you do need a bank branch. It was a good thing when the old Cheshire Building Society changed to them, the nearest used to be Stockport.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: wheels on December 05, 2016, 06:29:27 PM
I'm afraid I'm one of those causing closures like this. I can't remember the last time I went to a bank branch and do everything online.

So my question is to those who sing the Nationwide praises is what's it On line banking like as I might be interested in switching to them?
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: Enigmawatcher on December 05, 2016, 08:46:42 PM
Been a customer of Nationwide for over 15 years now. The online experience is very good (personal view). The web site is nice and intuitive, there is a card reader for the admin bits of setting up new payments but the APP has come on leaps and bounds over the past year.   I'd happily recommend it but it is a personal choice.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: Stationery Supplies on December 05, 2016, 10:54:57 PM
Anybody have experience of Nationwide for business banking?
I'm a Natwest customer & need to be able to bank in Marple. It's not practical for me to go to Hazel Grove or Stockport.
Thanks
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: admin on December 06, 2016, 05:55:54 AM
I don't know anything of Nationwide for business banking Sarah, but another option for you to look into is Santander Business Banking, as they allow you to use the counters at Post Offices for cash deposits and withdrawals. I don't do this myself as I don't need that facility, so I don't know how well it works. However, I am very pleased with Santander business banking as a whole, which is free of charges for me because I have a relatively low level of transactions. I image you would need to look more closely at the charges and compare theirs with Nationwide and the one on the corner of the Hollins - is it Barclays?
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: Nick Heath on December 06, 2016, 08:50:45 AM
Not happy with plans for closure of NatWest in Marple.  Has anyone thought of setting up a petition to persuade them to change their minds?  How big a bonus does the NatWest guy get for suggesting its closure?  This is hardly "customer service," and I don't trust online banking.  I like to be dealt with by a person!  Every time I have been in recently there has been a queue of at least three people in front of me.  And there's no easy public transport form Marple to Hazel Grove, so that's putting more cars on the road. Mutter, mutter!     
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: ringi on December 06, 2016, 10:19:08 AM
Not happy with plans for closure of NatWest in Marple.  Has anyone thought of setting up a petition to persuade them to change their minds?  How big a bonus does the NatWest guy get for suggesting its closure?  This is hardly "customer service," and I don't trust online banking.  I like to be dealt with by a person!  Every time I have been in recently there has been a queue of at least three people in front of me.  And there's no easy public transport form Marple to Hazel Grove, so that's putting more cars on the road. Mutter, mutter!   

The have worked out the customers they make the most profit from and learned that they don't lose these customers if they close a branch.....   The branches are mostly used by customers that are not profitable.

Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: amazon on December 06, 2016, 02:17:52 PM
Not happy with plans for closure of NatWest in Marple.  Has anyone thought of setting up a petition to persuade them to change their minds?  How big a bonus does the NatWest guy get for suggesting its closure?  This is hardly "customer service," and I don't trust online banking.  I like to be dealt with by a person!  Every time I have been in recently there has been a queue of at least three people in front of me.  And there's no easy public transport form Marple to Hazel Grove, so that's putting more cars on the road. Mutter, mutter!   
Whats wrong with RBS they are not closing ,
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: andy+kirsty on December 07, 2016, 12:11:15 PM
We use Nationwide and they have been faultless.

The Marple branch and staff are great as is the website and app which we use the majority of the time.

If anyone fancies switching send me a message and we will both get £100!

Andy
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: My login is Henrietta on December 20, 2016, 02:45:18 PM
I think the RBS branch are going to change into a Williams & Glyn?

Yes you can use Nationwide for cheques, regular banking etc
I thought Williams & Glyn was defunct. RBS decided it wasn't viable.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: Tillyed1 on December 21, 2016, 04:09:48 PM
I went to the Natwest today , it was shut, closed all day Wednesday's ! Why ?
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: amazon on December 21, 2016, 07:34:57 PM
I went to the Natwest today , it was shut, closed all day Wednesday's ! Why ?
closed wed for few months now open longer sats .
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: marpleexile on December 22, 2016, 06:54:04 AM
I went to the Natwest today , it was shut, closed all day Wednesday's ! Why ?

Never going to keep everyone happy, but closed on a Wednesday, open reasonable hours on a Saturday is much more useful to many more people than being open on a Wednesday and closed on a Saturday.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: Tillyed1 on December 23, 2016, 02:12:16 PM
Only open till 2.00pm Saturdays ! .  Closed Wednesday's , shuts early Saturday's , surprised they don't close for lunch each day, it's like a throwback to a bygone age !
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: MJC on February 14, 2017, 10:37:20 AM
Hello,

Does anyone happen to know how long the NatWest has been in Marple? Also, how long was the Disley branch there for?
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: Razzle24 on February 14, 2017, 05:55:58 PM
It was already there when I moved to Marple in 1982.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: My login is Henrietta on February 14, 2017, 06:15:22 PM
Hello,

Does anyone happen to know how long the NatWest has been in Marple? Also, how long was the Disley branch there for?
It was the District Bank when I was a little girl (1950s) and I used to take the family business's takings in on Saturday mornings when I was in my early teens - still the District Bank then. I can remember the amalgamation but can't remember exactly when it was.

As a matter of interest - why?
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: MJC on February 15, 2017, 10:51:10 AM
It was the District Bank when I was a little girl (1950s) and I used to take the family business's takings in on Saturday mornings when I was in my early teens - still the District Bank then. I can remember the amalgamation but can't remember exactly when it was.

As a matter of interest - why?

Thank you. I'm writing a short article about it. I'm aware Market Street was once very different, and wondered how long that building had been a bank.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: My login is Henrietta on February 17, 2017, 03:43:20 PM
It was already there when I moved to Marple in 1982.
Gosh, Razzle, you are but an incomer!  ;)

Shortly before he died in 1997, my father was chatting with an old friend who said that Dad  wouldn't remember something they were talking about because he wasn't a Marple person....... Dad had moved to Marple with his parents in 1926!!!!

Not sure how long you have to live here before you are a native!
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: Razzle24 on February 18, 2017, 08:30:06 AM
I couldn't have move here much sooner - I was only 8 at the time 😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: PhilB on February 18, 2017, 12:48:42 PM
Looking at the photos on this website it used to the Manchester and County Bank
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: admin on February 18, 2017, 02:31:33 PM
Looking at the photos on this website it used to the Manchester and County Bank

That's right @PhilB here's a copy (sadly we don't have a date for it):

(http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/albums/uploads/terrywood/Image38a.jpg)

It was also the District Bank (again, no date):

(http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/albums/uploads/streetscenes/picture_93.jpg)

But in 1914 it was a Marple Urban District Council office:

(http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/albums/uploads/gilbert/batch03/urbandistrictcouncil2.jpg)
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: My login is Henrietta on March 01, 2017, 11:55:51 AM
That's right @PhilB here's a copy (sadly we don't have a date for it):

(http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/albums/uploads/terrywood/Image38a.jpg)

It was also the District Bank (again, no date):

(http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/albums/uploads/streetscenes/picture_93.jpg)

But in 1914 it was a Marple Urban District Council office:

(http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/albums/uploads/gilbert/batch03/urbandistrictcouncil2.jpg)
Judging by the clothes of the woman standing outside, I'd say it was late 1920s or early 1930s
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: Google on July 19, 2017, 11:30:14 AM
I believe this building has already been bought by Weatherspoons and work has already begun? A crying shame and not good for the area in my opinion!
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: amazon on July 19, 2017, 02:28:39 PM
Judging by the clothes of the woman standing outside, I'd say it was late 1920s or early 1930s
If weatherspoon had bought it the cashline machine would not be still in use acording to one of the ladies that worked there now at Bramhall the machine will still be in use while nat west own it .the work going on is to clear stuff out . have you seen any plans for weatherspoons it wont happen that quick if they have bought it .just Marple rumours .
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: Victor M on July 19, 2017, 05:02:57 PM
I find it very strange that no "For Sale" or "To Let" sign has gone up which makes me think it's new role has already been decided, probably the way we find out will be when either the licensing application is made or planning permission is requested for an external sign.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: Barbara on July 19, 2017, 05:04:56 PM
If the rumour is true and Wetherspoons have bought it, I can't see it doing The Samuel Oldknow any good, which is a great pity. 
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: Snowball on July 19, 2017, 05:10:02 PM
I believe this building has already been bought by Weatherspoons and work has already begun? A crying shame and not good for the area in my opinion!

According to Wetherspoons own website it's not listed as a planned new opening. Spoof perhaps?

https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/pubs/opening-soon (https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/pubs/opening-soon)
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: Barbara on July 19, 2017, 05:38:02 PM
Fake news?? ;)
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: amazon on July 19, 2017, 07:25:16 PM
Fake news?? ;)
YOU TRUMPED me on that one
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: Rudolph Hucker on July 19, 2017, 07:52:43 PM
If the rumour is true and Wetherspoons have bought it, I can't see it doing The Samuel Oldknow any good, which is a great pity.

I actually think it would be net neutral to Oldknow's- but beneficial to the community of Marple as a whole.

The virtual monopoly of Robbie's prior to Beer Traders and Oldknow's killed Marple nightlife. Same old, same old.... Same tired beverages, same tired tenants (with a few very notable exceptions - you know exactly who I mean!), same tired buildings and interiors, same tired themes/offering beyond the odd quiz night and perhaps some darts. No wonder the town died as supermarkets started offering decent craft ales and wines (etc.) at reasonable prices and Netflix or whatever became mainstream.

Beer Traders and Oldknow's breathed some life back in but they're relatively small and don't do food (to any great degree). What we need is for the generation in charge of Robbies now to realise their current business model has no future in the 21st century, grow a pair and sell off the majority of their estate without restrictions to trade, and allow freehouses in their place. Or we need to petition Wetherspoons to buy the Nat West. Or better still both. Then we might get our town back - like Marple Bridge for instance who have a great night life.

With more choice, more people would stay in Marple for their nights out. With more choice, more people might visit from neighbouring towns. With more choice, more people might switch off the telly and venture out. All of which will benefit Oldknow's and Beer Traders (classic Game Theory if you have ever studied it) but probably be detrimental to the Midland and Norfolk...

And believe it or not, this would also benefit Robbies themselves. If Marple footfall doubled (and in reality I think it would treble) by keeping (at most) 2 or 3 of their traditional pubs they would maintain/increase their turnover but with fewer overheads in the estate = a more attractive offering with which to attract quality tenants, plus more profit for them. What's not to like?

So come on Wethespoons, do Marple a favour and get your offer in!

RH.

Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: amazon on July 19, 2017, 08:19:17 PM
I actually think it would be net neutral to Oldknow's- but beneficial to the community of Marple as a whole.

The virtual monopoly of Robbie's prior to Beer Traders and Oldknow's killed Marple nightlife. Same old, same old.... Same tired beverages, same tired tenants (with a few very notable exceptions - you know exactly who I mean!), same tired buildings and interiors, same tired themes/offering beyond the odd quiz night and perhaps some darts. No wonder the town died as supermarkets started offering decent craft ales and wines (etc.) at reasonable prices and Netflix or whatever became mainstream.

Beer Traders and Oldknow's breathed some life back in but they're relatively small and don't do food (to any great degree). What we need is for the generation in charge of Robbies now to realise their current business model has no future in the 21st century, grow a pair and sell off the majority of their estate without restrictions to trade, and allow freehouses in their place. Or we need to petition Wetherspoons to buy the Nat West. Or better still both. Then we might get our town back - like Marple Bridge for instance who have a great night life.

With more choice, more people would stay in Marple for their nights out. With more choice, more people might visit from neighbouring towns. With more choice, more people might switch off the telly and venture out. All of which will benefit Oldknow's and Beer Traders (classic Game Theory if you have ever studied it) but probably be detrimental to the Midland and Norfolk...

And believe it or not, this would also benefit Robbies themselves. If Marple footfall doubled (and in reality I think it would treble) by keeping (at most) 2 or 3 of their traditional pubs they would maintain/increase their turnover but with fewer overheads in the estate = a more attractive offering with which to attract quality tenants, plus more profit for them. What's not to like?

So come on Wethespoons, do Marple a favour and get your offer in!

RH.
Weatherspoons are closing pubs not opening them the one in Hydes closing soon .
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: amazon on July 19, 2017, 08:20:40 PM
I actually think it would be net neutral to Oldknow's- but beneficial to the community of Marple as a whole.

The virtual monopoly of Robbie's prior to Beer Traders and Oldknow's killed Marple nightlife. Same old, same old.... Same tired beverages, same tired tenants (with a few very notable exceptions - you know exactly who I mean!), same tired buildings and interiors, same tired themes/offering beyond the odd quiz night and perhaps some darts. No wonder the town died as supermarkets started offering decent craft ales and wines (etc.) at reasonable prices and Netflix or whatever became mainstream.

Beer Traders and Oldknow's breathed some life back in but they're relatively small and don't do food (to any great degree). What we need is for the generation in charge of Robbies now to realise their current business model has no future in the 21st century, grow a pair and sell off the majority of their estate without restrictions to trade, and allow freehouses in their place. Or we need to petition Wetherspoons to buy the Nat West. Or better still both. Then we might get our town back - like Marple Bridge for instance who have a great night life.

With more choice, more people would stay in Marple for their nights out. With more choice, more people might visit from neighbouring towns. With more choice, more people might switch off the telly and venture out. All of which will benefit Oldknow's and Beer Traders (classic Game Theory if you have ever studied it) but probably be detrimental to the Midland and Norfolk...

And believe it or not, this would also benefit Robbies themselves. If Marple footfall doubled (and in reality I think it would treble) by keeping (at most) 2 or 3 of their traditional pubs they would maintain/increase their turnover but with fewer overheads in the estate = a more attractive offering with which to attract quality tenants, plus more profit for them. What's not to like?

So come on Wethespoons, do Marple a favour and get your offer in!

RH.
were in Marple bridge for great night life.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: admin on July 19, 2017, 09:42:37 PM
There is a planning application that was submitted in April and approved last week that shows the removal of one of the ATM's and its replacement by a doorway.

It looks like it is being changed so that the ATM that remains can be accessed via the new steel security door and no longer via the building that was the bank.

The DC number is DC/065454 and with a bit of luck these links will show you more:

http://planning.stockport.gov.uk/PlanningData-live/files/ACA70CB007ACDA48006DB56AB942CBF1/pdf/DC_065454-EXISTING_PROPOSED_GROUNDFLOOR-284915.pdf

http://planning.stockport.gov.uk/PlanningData-live/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=OOB1YEPJGOR00
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: andrewbowden on July 19, 2017, 09:56:46 PM
Weatherspoons are closing pubs not opening them the one in Hydes closing soon .

Like any big company, Wetherspoons regularly review their estate - especially when they come up for contract renewal.  Wetherspoons regularly close pubs and have done for decades.  At the same time, they regularly open new ones.  They also put pubs on the market and sometimes don't close them...  (There are several I know that went on the market last year and that are still open.)
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: Condate on July 19, 2017, 09:58:51 PM
Then we might get our town back - like Marple Bridge for instance who have a great night life.

This does rather presuppose that people want a 'night life' whatever that means. Personally, once I get home from work, that's it for the night. I can lock the door and stay indoors or in the garden. However, I know some people are different. There do seem to be a lot of eateries and pubs at the moment, so I'm not sure what more people want.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: andrewbowden on July 19, 2017, 10:05:22 PM
I find it very strange that no "For Sale" or "To Let" sign has gone up which makes me think it's new role has already been decided, probably the way we find out will be when either the licensing application is made or planning permission is requested for an external signy.

This is not unusual at all.  Such things are done online these days, and many properties never get a sign.  Indeed I had my previous house on the market last year for several months and the agent never put a sign up.

Secondly NatWest are likely to be closing several branches nationwide at once so disposals would likely go through a single agent who may not even have been appointed yet.  Or they may even just sit on it until a lease runs out.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: andrewbowden on July 19, 2017, 10:18:20 PM
Apropos to nothing, but I can't even see how the NatWest building would even be big enough for a Wetherspoons.  It's too small. 

They don't go for small places.  That's not their style.  The cinema would be the right size.  Or the delivery office maybe.  Not NatWest.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: admin on August 10, 2017, 07:33:10 PM
The former NatWest building is now up for auction on 12 September with a guide price of £150,000:

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-for-sale/property-68258615.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-for-sale/property-68258615.html)
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: amazon on August 10, 2017, 08:54:04 PM
The former NatWest building is now up for auction on 12 September with a guide price of £150,000:

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-for-sale/property-68258615.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-for-sale/property-68258615.html)
interesting to see the atm stays ,
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: andrewbowden on August 10, 2017, 09:53:32 PM
interesting to see the atm stays ,

They have just upgraded the machine, as well as adding an access door.  They must believe it will be profitable to have it there.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: pirate Princess on August 22, 2017, 08:56:27 AM
The cinema would be the right size.  Or the delivery office maybe.  Not NatWest.

We have a cinema a very nice one with lots of history, which lacks in Marple
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: andrewbowden on August 22, 2017, 09:34:19 AM
We have a cinema a very nice one with lots of history, which lacks in Marple

I know we do.  I was just saying that if there was a premises that was about the right size for Wetherspoons, it would be the cinema, and certainly not NatWest.  I wasn't saying the cinema should make way for a Wetherspoons at all.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: My login is Henrietta on September 04, 2017, 05:27:33 PM
I think the RBS branch are going to change into a Williams & Glyn?

Yes you can use Nationwide for cheques, regular banking etc
Which will be good as long as they change the machine for one which doesn't breakdown with monotonous regularity. A couple of weeks ago all the cash machines in Marple had gone on strike.

It was PM before I could get my  money out of my account!

Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: amazon on September 04, 2017, 08:14:04 PM
Which will be good as long as they change the machine for one which doesn't breakdown with monotonous regularity. A couple of weeks ago all the cash machines in Marple had gone on strike.

It was PM before I could get my  money out of my account!
Natwest or RBS dont service there own machines another firm does them .the one at nat west is due to have a new one fitted .
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: sgk on September 07, 2017, 04:59:01 PM
I see it's now listed for auction, will be sold 12-Sep-2017, bids starting at 150k.


http://www.pugh-auctions.com/Lot/Manchester/20170912/045

Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: Victor M on September 07, 2017, 06:12:38 PM
Just read the blurb on the site it says

1) The property will be sold subject to restrictions preventing the following uses:

• Businesses involved with money lending
• Pawnbrokers/adult sex shops
• Bookmakers or any other gambling business or outlet
• Banks/ Building Societies
• A4 users (ie bars/public houses)
• The sale of firearms
• The sale of any paraphernalia associated with illegal drugs

So bang goes the theory about a Wetherspoons, or any other type of bar A$ definition is A4 Drinking establishments - Public houses, wine bars or other drinking establishments (but not night clubs) including drinking establishments with expanded food provision.

So the only thing it leaves is a restaurant or god forbid another takeaway.

Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: Tillyed1 on September 07, 2017, 06:20:56 PM
Adult sex shop restricton ! Damn !!! Marple is crying out for one
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: Razzle24 on September 08, 2017, 08:31:00 AM
Or a charity shop!!!
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: PhilB on September 08, 2017, 12:30:15 PM
NATWEST imposed restrictions due to the ATM installation.

https://saddind.co.uk/natwest-block-banking-return-in-row-over-uppermill-high-street-former-premises/
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: andrewbowden on September 08, 2017, 01:30:12 PM
Love the notion in that link that another bank would be looking to open up in exactly the same place as a closed NatWest.  Because, as we all know, banks are expanding their branch network right now...

I guess the ATM explains some of their restrictions.  For example, a bookies having a cash machine outside it probably wouldn't look good for NatWest's reputation.  Even if other machines are not far away.  A bar or restaurant may have outdoor seating and that could interfere with the machine's operation - both from safety of users and from security of stocking/maintaining the machine.  And I guess reputation is also behind the sex shop exclusion.

My bet?  Offices. 

The Wetherspoons suggestion was always laughable and clearly someone making it up.  As I stated earlier, it's the wrong size.  I mean, compare the Natwest building with this recent Wetherspoons opening... https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/aug/28/new-wetherspoon-pub-ramsgate-kent-royal-victoria-pavilion
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: Dave on September 09, 2017, 04:09:50 PM
Just read the blurb on the site it says

1) The property will be sold subject to restrictions preventing the following uses:

• Businesses involved with money lending
• Pawnbrokers/adult sex shops
• Bookmakers or any other gambling business or outlet
• Banks/ Building Societies
• A4 users (ie bars/public houses)
• The sale of firearms
• The sale of any paraphernalia associated with illegal drugs

So bang goes the theory about a Wetherspoons, or any other type of bar A$ definition is A4 Drinking establishments - Public houses, wine bars or other drinking establishments (but not night clubs) including drinking establishments with expanded food provision.

So the only thing it leaves is a restaurant or god forbid another takeaway.

Yes, that looks the most likely, I reckon. Unless there's an established local retailer that wants to move into a more visible position - it's a nicely prominent location.

Incidentally, it seems odd that in that list of restrictions, pawnbrokers and 'adult sex shops' are bracketed together, as if there is some kind of link or similarity between them.  Maybe whoever drew up the list didn't know the difference between a pawnbroker and a pornbroker?
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: Google on September 14, 2017, 02:25:15 PM
Sold for £369,000.

I looked in to buying it myself and turning it in to a restaurant but that price, plus the refurbishments was too much!
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: Tillyed1 on December 02, 2017, 04:41:39 PM
Any word on the street regards proposals for ex Natwest bank building one it's been sold and bought ?
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: wheels on December 04, 2017, 06:41:05 PM
No it certainly seems a well kept secret
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: admin on December 04, 2017, 07:04:01 PM
No it certainly seems a well kept secret

It does indeed. I heard a rumour that it was a local estate agent who is going to move premises.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: wheels on December 05, 2017, 01:21:24 PM
Your correct I heard a funeral directors had got it. I'm sure in the end we will be surprised.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: Tillyed1 on December 05, 2017, 06:23:57 PM
Estate agent or funeral directors , bit disappointing if it is , you never know we may all be in for a treat and a mobility scooter super showroom may grace the prominent high street position.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: the rover on December 05, 2017, 07:27:37 PM
I heard that it's going to be another dog grooming parlor.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: mikes on December 07, 2017, 01:28:45 PM
How about a pole dancing club?
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: andrewbowden on December 07, 2017, 04:57:32 PM
It's interesting what you can find from planning documents.

For example, there was a planning application lodged in October 2017.
http://planning.stockport.gov.uk/PlanningData-live/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=OXPMS0PJJ3Y00

The main thing listed is for making the windows bigger.

Now the entire thing is extremely vague.  The documents were submitted by a third party who are specialists in planning.  It doesn't say much about what the new owner wants to do with the building.  Just that they want to make changes.

But look at the plans and there's a client name.

Client name is CEMCO 21 LIMITED.
Who are Cemco 21 Ltd?

Ah, they have a website.
http://www.cemco21.com/

Their website has little on it, but they do property services.  And there's an address.

65-81 St. Petersgate, Stockport, Cheshire, SK1 1DS

Interesting.

Let's search that address on t'internet.

Oh look.  Edward Mellor's Stockport office is at the same address.

Well blow me.

Let's look at Companies House for good measure.
Here we are.  Cemco 21 Ltd.
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08315155/officers

Well knock me down with a feather duster.
Colin Edward Mellor is a director of Cemco 21.

What's that?  He's secretary of Edward Mellor Ltd?  No kidding.
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/02139859/officers


So yeah, basically, it's going to be Marple's newest Vape Shop.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: admin on December 07, 2017, 05:35:41 PM
So yeah, basically, it's going to be Marple's newest Vape Shop.

Great detective work! Looks like my rumour may be nearer the mark than I thought.

One of the things that put me off was that the windows were too small for an estate agents and it looks like you've answered that too.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: amazon on December 07, 2017, 08:49:53 PM
How about a pole dancing club?
try long legs .i have no conection but i can get you in for free ,
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: andrewbowden on December 07, 2017, 09:41:33 PM
Great detective work! Looks like my rumour may be nearer the mark than I thought.

One of the things that put me off was that the windows were too small for an estate agents and it looks like you've answered that too.

I thought the windows would put off many uses myself.  The thought they could change them never really occurred to me for some reason
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: admin on December 08, 2017, 07:08:23 AM
Here's a picture of the proposed elevations, as Andrew says, the main change is to increase the size of the windows.

It will probably look a lot better actually:

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Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: ringi on December 11, 2017, 11:45:56 PM
I thought someone may convert it into flats,  but when I saw how much it went for, I  could not make the maths works…….    Edward Mellor' makes much more sense, remember they can put flats on the 1st floor without having to get planning approval……
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: amazon on December 12, 2017, 02:09:15 PM
I thought someone may convert it into flats,  but when I saw how much it went for, I  could not make the maths works…….    Edward Mellor' makes much more sense, remember they can put flats on the 1st floor without having to get planning approval……
There's  lots of land at the side as well. Where the car park was.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: ringi on December 13, 2017, 11:23:09 AM
Given that the directors of Edward Mellor do a lot of property development in their own names, I expect they have got an office "for free" once they have sold off (or rented out) all the bits of the building and land they don't need.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: andrewbowden on December 13, 2017, 12:03:16 PM
Given the covernants the building was apparently sold with, I wonder how this all affects the Vernon.

1) The property will be sold subject to restrictions preventing the following uses:

• Businesses involved with money lending
• Pawnbrokers/adult sex shops
• Bookmakers or any other gambling business or outlet
Banks/ Building Societies
• A4 users (ie bars/public houses)
• The sale of firearms
• The sale of any paraphernalia associated with illegal drugs


Perhaps they get round it because of the principle business.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: amazon on December 13, 2017, 04:12:45 PM
Given the covernants the building was apparently sold with, I wonder how this all affects the Vernon.

1) The property will be sold subject to restrictions preventing the following uses:

• Businesses involved with money lending
• Pawnbrokers/adult sex shops
• Bookmakers or any other gambling business or outlet
Banks/ Building Societies
• A4 users (ie bars/public houses)
• The sale of firearms
• The sale of any paraphernalia associated with illegal drugs


Perhaps they get round it because of the principle business.
do you know if the vernon are going in with them .
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: andrewbowden on December 13, 2017, 04:31:06 PM
do you know if the vernon are going in with them .

Nope.  Hence why I was wondering.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: Razzle24 on December 13, 2017, 06:21:22 PM
Edward Mellor use financial advisors to sell mortgages.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: Cyberman on December 15, 2017, 08:11:09 PM
The have worked out the customers they make the most profit from and learned that they don't lose these customers if they close a branch.....   The branches are mostly used by customers that are not profitable.
Returning to a banking theme - I was not happy with NatWest closing and I have just completed the transfer to Nationwide. I used the Current Account Switch Service which transfers all your incoming payments e.g.salary and direct debits. It seems to have gone OK and I can recommend them. Their current a/c gives 5% interest for the first year on up to £2.5k - drops to 1% after 1 year. I also received £100 via their "recommend a friend" scheme - got a mate at work to be my friend. They got £100 too. So NatWest customers - vote with your feet!

BTW NatWest in New Mills has now closed too.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: amazon on December 15, 2017, 09:23:48 PM
Returning to a banking theme - I was not happy with NatWest closing and I have just completed the transfer to Nationwide. I used the Current Account Switch Service which transfers all your incoming payments e.g.salary and direct debits. It seems to have gone OK and I can recommend them. Their current a/c gives 5% interest for the first year on up to £2.5k - drops to 1% after 1 year. I also received £100 via their "recommend a friend" scheme - got a mate at work to be my friend. They got £100 too. So NatWest customers - vote with your feet!

BTW NatWest in New Mills has now closed too.
I use rbs at the moment just looking at the Christmas opening times they will be closed for nearly a week at Christmas not a ideal situation. If you need to pay in.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: andrewbowden on January 30, 2020, 08:52:43 AM
Building work's begun on altering the old Natwest building.  Looks like they're extending the first floor slightly at the minute, as well as clearing out the old bank area.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: amazon on January 30, 2020, 12:11:05 PM
Building work's begun on altering the old Natwest building.  Looks like they're extending the first floor slightly at the minute, as well as clearing out the old bank area.
Do you no what its going to be .
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: andrewbowden on January 30, 2020, 12:50:46 PM
Do you no what its going to be .

No idea.  The planning application documents are very vague - probably because they weren't written with any client in mind.  They just show an open area downstairs, with a kitchen.  Then upstairs mostly keeps the previous layout of smaller office type rooms
https://planning.stockport.gov.uk/PlanningData-live/files/FE968C1A46EC9AE6DAC5F7CC7593DBA7/pdf/DC_067420-PLANNING_STATEMENT-745395.pdf
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: rsh on January 31, 2020, 10:28:59 AM
Looks like there was a separate application DC/068350 to convert the upper storeys to three flats, with a first and second storey extension on the back.

Glad to finally see something happening. If they complete the full height windows downstairs it’d make a great cafe unit.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: amazon on January 31, 2020, 11:45:47 AM
Looks like there was a separate application DC/068350 to convert the upper storeys to three flats, with a first and second storey extension on the back.

Glad to finally see something happening. If they complete the full height windows downstairs it’d make a great cafe unit.
Not another cafe
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: andrewbowden on January 31, 2020, 01:22:41 PM
Looks like there was a separate application DC/068350 to convert the upper storeys to three flats, with a first and second storey extension on the back.

Glad to finally see something happening. If they complete the full height windows downstairs it’d make a great cafe unit.

Ah, I missed that when I searched for it the other day.  I did a postcode search and that application is done under the postcode SK6 7AD, where as the original was on SK6 7AE.

Obviously better to search for the address.

I would have thought it a little small for a cafe myself.  But given the current climate, I'd go for hairdressers.  We have a big shortage of them round here  ;)
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: andrewbowden on January 31, 2020, 01:23:17 PM
Not another cafe

Marple doesn't have that many cafes.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: amazon on January 31, 2020, 02:01:24 PM
Marple doesn't have that many cafes.
IDont have enough fingers .
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: Snowball on January 31, 2020, 10:59:39 PM
Many months ago it was said that Mellors Estate Agents had bought the premises.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: ringi on February 05, 2020, 02:42:34 PM
Many months ago it was said that Mellors Estate Agents had bought the premises.

If I recall correctly it was a director of Mellors Estate Agents using a separate development company.    Hence don't assume it is to move the Estate Agent office into.
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: mikes on February 05, 2020, 09:55:41 PM
I refer you to post #73
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: andrewbowden on August 24, 2021, 10:36:23 AM
In a shocking move, the new occupiers of the ground floor of the NatWest building are going to be... [drumroll]

Edward Mellor.

Planning permission has been applied for corporate signage on the building (application DC/081813) - hopefully
this link works: https://planning.stockport.gov.uk/PlanningData-live/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=QVTMPVPJFT900
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: admin on August 24, 2021, 11:05:32 AM
It does indeed. I heard a rumour that it was a local estate agent who is going to move premises.

 ::)
Title: Re: NatWest, Marple
Post by: GM on August 24, 2021, 11:14:59 AM
No surprises really, there is also an application by Asda DC/082124

https://planning.stockport.gov.uk/PlanningData-live/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=QX22T3PJHJM00

To change the exterior signage and also expand into the old Thomas Cook & the charity shop