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Reviews and Recommendations => Recommended Pubs & Restaurants => Topic started by: willow on January 05, 2015, 04:14:24 PM

Title: The Spring Gardens
Post by: willow on January 05, 2015, 04:14:24 PM
Looks like it may have closed down again. Never got the chance to try it either.
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: amazon on January 05, 2015, 04:22:04 PM
Looks like it may have closed down again. Never got the chance to try it either.
Yip, closed again.
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: admin on May 12, 2015, 03:11:29 PM
Look what's up for sale on Right Move:

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-for-sale/property-52138394.html
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: Dave on May 12, 2015, 03:28:56 PM
'VILLAGE INN WITH BOWLING GREEN IN THE DELIGHTFUL SEMI-RURAL PEAK DISTRICT VILLAGE........'

Wonderful estate-agent speak - it's beyond parody!  ;D
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: Condate on May 12, 2015, 03:59:42 PM
Estate agents literature can make election leaflets look like a model of accuracy by comparison!
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: amazon on May 12, 2015, 09:51:12 PM
'VILLAGE INN WITH BOWLING GREEN IN THE DELIGHTFUL SEMI-RURAL PEAK DISTRICT VILLAGE........'

Wonderful estate-agent speak - it's beyond parody!  ;D
Not sure if they own the bowling green the members do most of the work themselves .
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: bluebelly on May 13, 2015, 08:35:15 AM
peak district i thought it was cheshire....
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: Condate on May 13, 2015, 08:54:52 AM
I suppose they would argue that before 1936 it was in Derbyshire.
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: Henry_ on May 13, 2015, 12:12:03 PM
Bring back the Spring Gardens please
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: BennyBlue on May 31, 2015, 08:34:04 PM
You may be in luck Henry_ - just been past and it has re-opened as a pub?
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: admin on May 31, 2015, 08:43:36 PM
You may be in luck Henry_ - just been past and it has re-opened as a pub?

Fantastic news, tell us more somebody!
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: Condate on June 03, 2015, 07:54:50 PM
I noticed a "now open" sign when driving past this evening, but couldn't stop to investigate.
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: amazon on July 04, 2015, 09:29:41 PM
I noticed a "now open" sign when driving past this evening, but couldn't stop to investigate.

Sort off open its still for sale .diferent agent .
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: IanB on November 13, 2015, 09:13:47 PM
Tweet below from Fool Hardy Ale in Stockport today
" Wells folks, the exciting news is, we've bought a 2nd pub! Won't be opening 'til early next year, The Spring Gardens, Marlow Bridge."

Think they mean Marple Bridge (not a great start), but should be good for us real ale lovers judging by their web site (http://foolhardyales.co.uk).
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: sgk on November 13, 2015, 11:47:49 PM
Tweet below from Fool Hardy Ale in Stockport today
" Wells folks, the exciting news is, we've bought a 2nd pub! Won't be opening 'til early next year, The Spring Gardens, Marlow Bridge."
Think they mean Marple Bridge (not a great start), but should be good for us real ale lovers judging by their web site (http://foolhardyales.co.uk (http://foolhardyales.co.uk)).
Very best of luck to them.  They've since corrected their tweet:
(https://i.imgur.com/pQsjHCG.png[/img/)
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: BennyBlue on November 14, 2015, 11:28:18 AM
Fantastic news. The hope is one of the best pubs in the area, and great beer.
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: Dave on November 18, 2015, 06:00:22 PM
This is really good news.  I've lost count of how many pubs we've lost in recent years, so it's great that someone is keeping the Spring Gardens going.  :)
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: admin on November 30, 2015, 09:47:25 AM
Fool Hardy Ales is now looking for staff in all areas, kitchen, bar, waiting on for the Spring Gardens, due to open in February 2016.
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: sgk on November 30, 2015, 06:25:57 PM
Fool Hardy Ales is now looking for staff in all areas, kitchen, bar, waiting on for the Spring Gardens, due to open in February 2016.
Appear to be needing a spot of help with their website too, admin, if you know anyone  ;)


http://springgardenssk6.co.uk/
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: barndoor on February 14, 2016, 07:28:24 PM
Mrs barndoor and I have just returned from a spin around the area and we noticed that the revamp is well under way: tables and furniture appear to have been moved in (although is yet to be unpacked), and there's a sign up saying they're looking for staff; so the portents are good for an opening date towards the start of March.

We actually visited their pub, The Hope, on Wellington Road North last summer (before we learnt they were planning a move to Marple Bridge). The beer was really excellent and we vowed to return - which, because it's so far away, unfortunately never happened - so we were ecstatic to discover they had evidently got fed up waiting for us and instead set up shop close to ours. For anyone who enjoys a quality pint I can thoroughly recommend them (I base this on the very positive experience we had in The Hope), and I hope they are successful.

I actually spotted an advert they had placed in the December edition of Opening Times which I meant to post on here at the time, but in the general hubbub of Christmas forgot to. Page 6 on this link. (http://www.ssmcamra.co.uk/magazine.htm#375dec15)
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: amazon on February 14, 2016, 09:16:42 PM
Mrs barndoor and I have just returned from a spin around the area and we noticed that the revamp is well under way: tables and furniture appear to have been moved in (although is yet to be unpacked), and there's a sign up saying they're looking for staff; so the portents are good for an opening date towards the start of March.

We actually visited their pub, The Hope, on Wellington Road North last summer (before we learnt they were planning a move to Marple Bridge). The beer was really excellent and we vowed to return - which, because it's so far away, unfortunately never happened - so we were ecstatic to discover they had evidently got fed up waiting for us and instead set up shop close to ours. For anyone who enjoys a quality pint I can thoroughly recommend them (I base this on the very positive experience we had in The Hope), and I hope they are successful.

I actually spotted an advert they had placed in the December edition of Opening Times which I meant to post on here at the time, but in the general hubbub of Christmas forgot to. Page 6 on this link. (http://www.ssmcamra.co.uk/magazine.htm#375dec15)
8March i heard its opening .
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: admin on February 15, 2016, 06:01:10 AM
I've changed the title of this thread to The Spring Gardens as that's now much more relevant than Tennessee Jacks.

On Twitter they say that they've brewed the first new ale for the launch of the pub Rude Vagablond 4.2%.

When I last asked they expected to open late February but that could be slipping I guess.

Here's a picture of the new bar:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbNUkH3WcAEO-u7.jpg:large)
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: admin on February 17, 2016, 07:00:48 AM
According to Fool Hardy Ales on Twitter the official opening is Wednesday 9th March.
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: admin on March 09, 2016, 06:34:54 PM
Opening has been delayed until next Wednesday 16th March from 12 noon.
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: admin on March 12, 2016, 07:01:45 AM
Pleased to have some updated information from Fool Hardy Ales for the Spring Gardens page in the Pub Guide:

http://www.marple-uk.com/pubguide/springers.htm
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: Condate on March 12, 2016, 10:12:29 AM
Pleased to have some updated information from Fool Hardy Ales for the Spring Gardens page in the Pub Guide:

http://www.marple-uk.com/pubguide/springers.htm

Interesting. Slightly odd food hours; Wednesday and Sunday only, but I'm sure they know what they are doing. I normally visit pubs for a meal and have a drink while I'm there, but I know that for a great many people it's the beer that's the main attraction and why not? I'll probably try it on a Sunday afternoon, as I am at work on Wednesdays.
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: admin on March 12, 2016, 11:37:56 AM
Slightly odd food hours; Wednesday and Sunday only, but I'm sure they know what they are doing.

They do know @Condate, it's my typo, should be Wednesday to Saturday and Sunday! Corrected now  ::)
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: Dave on March 27, 2016, 10:15:46 AM
Popped in to the Springers yesterday for a pint while waiting to pick up a takeaway.  I think it's the first time I've set foot in that pub for about ten years.   

Anyway, what a surprise!  A major makeover, for a start, and a very different contemporary feel, with stripped floors and good lighting, and plenty of space.  Just as well, because it was very busy, and the person who served me said it's been like that ever since they opened.

A big selection of cask and keg beers, from breweries you've never heard of, plus so-called craft beers (not sure what they are), and plenty of exotic ales  from foreign  parts. Didn't try the food, and couldn't see a menu, but plenty of people seemed to be eating it.

In short, definitely worth a visit.  And although it's early days, and yes it was Saturday evening, and the novelty may wear off, but the level of business suggests that it is still possible to run a 'normal' (as opposed to micro) pub in Marple.   :)
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: barndoor on March 27, 2016, 05:50:03 PM
Mrs barndoor and I called in the other evening as well.

We were mightily impressed with the revamped Spring Gardens, and although we'd previously heard a comment that the lighting was 'too bright', it wasn't as intrusive as I'd been led to believe it would be. That said, a dimmer switch at the front might help to create a more cosy atmosphere. The staff were very friendly: as soon as I walked in I was offered a 'taster', which is always a nice touch - a sort of 'try before you buy' - and as expected, the beer was high quality. My drinking partner (not Mrs bd) was raving about how good his beer was, so we were both in agreement there. Mrs bd was impressed by the range of wines that were available: she was able to choose from a selection that was more interesting than 'just Chardonnay' (which she has found to be the case in several of the local pubs).

I was struck by the number of people I recognised who are (were?) regulars in The Norfolk Arms. It will be interesting to see how The Norfolk deals with the challenge presented by the new kid on the block.
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: Dave on March 27, 2016, 06:43:05 PM
Oh, and I meant to add, my very nice pint cost only £2.90!   :D :D
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: barndoor on October 23, 2016, 07:32:13 PM
I received a flyer through the door the other day, which I've been happy to upload and reproduce below (I should probably add that I don't have any connection to The Spring Gardens, just an appreciation of their fine ales).

(http://i67.tinypic.com/efgl1w.jpg)

(http://i63.tinypic.com/30rm92b.jpg)
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: My login is Henrietta on November 18, 2016, 03:46:33 PM
I received a flyer through the door the other day, which I've been happy to upload and reproduce below (I should probably add that I don't have any connection to The Spring Gardens, just an appreciation of their fine ales).

(http://i67.tinypic.com/efgl1w.jpg)

(http://i63.tinypic.com/30rm92b.jpg)
"Beer Emporium & Eatery" - For goodness sake - it's a pub serving food.
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: admin on October 07, 2017, 05:40:26 PM
Been to the Spring Gardens several times since it reopened last year and have really enjoyed the beer.

Got around to eating in there for the first time at lunchtime today with Mrs Admin, the food was excellent and the service was very good too.
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: admin on February 02, 2018, 06:09:51 PM
I assume this means it's not worked out for Fool Hardy Ales at the Spring Gardens.

A real shame, have enjoyed our visits there, the beer has been great, wish it was closer to Marple town centre!

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-for-sale/property-63771637.html
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: corium on February 02, 2018, 06:36:37 PM
I suspect the Northumberland Arms reopening has been the last straw. It was never very busy but recent times I have been past/ in it has been really quiet. It seems to provoke some real hostility in some Compstall residents I know though I'm not sure why. I know in the early days there were some moans on this forum but other than some inconsistent beer standards in the Foolhardy offerings I've had no complaints
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: andrewbowden on February 03, 2018, 10:05:25 PM
I would say don't jump to conclusions without knowing the full story.   There could be allsorts of reasons for selling.  Perhaps they need the money for other investment for example.  Maybe they aren't able to commit enough time to make it reach its potential. Or maybe the owners just want to reduce their workload a little.

People sell businesses for all sorts of reasons.
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: amazon on February 26, 2018, 02:14:31 PM
I would say don't jump to conclusions without knowing the full story.   There could be allsorts of reasons for selling.  Perhaps they need the money for other investment for example.  Maybe they aren't able to commit enough time to make it reach its potential. Or maybe the owners just want to reduce their workload a little.

People sell businesses for all sorts of reasons.
They have split up .nothing to do with the thumb opening .the thumb is not doing all that well either .
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: ROTHERS on February 27, 2018, 11:05:34 AM
They have split up .nothing to do with the thumb opening .the thumb is not doing all that well either .
How do you know the Thumb isnt doing all that well ?
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: corium on February 27, 2018, 11:16:47 AM
How do you know the Thumb isnt doing all that well ?

Exactly what i was going to ask.
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: andrewbowden on February 27, 2018, 11:51:35 AM
Exactly what i was going to ask.

The Thumb sent out a newsletter to shareholders this week (after Amazon's comment by coincidence).

There isn't minute detail of the financials, but to quote from the opening paragraph: "Our sales figures are above what the pub was doing last year for the same period, which really is a fantastic start!"

I am going to assume the period they're comparing did not include after the pub's closure ;)


As also mentioned by Amazon, the owners of the Spring Gardens (and of Fool Hardy ales and of the Hope Inn) were a couple. 

As they stated on Twitter and Facebook in January:

"Yes, me & Sam have split up, the reason for this post is because I am already fed up of hearing rumours! We will still be working together for the sake of the business and staying friends! On that cheery note, happy new year!"
https://twitter.com/foolhardyales/status/948640989543092226

Maybe that's a factor.  Maybe it's not.  It happened quite soon after the split - maybe that's a factor.  Who knows?  Well, someone does but it's not me.

I do severely doubt it's related to the Thumb.  The two pubs co-existed previously, and sensible heads wouldn't make rash judgements on sales based on the latter re-opening for a relatively short period of time. 
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: amazon on February 27, 2018, 02:34:03 PM
The Thumb sent out a newsletter to shareholders this week (after Amazon's comment by coincidence).

There isn't minute detail of the financials, but to quote from the opening paragraph: "Our sales figures are above what the pub was doing last year for the same period, which really is a fantastic start!"

I am going to assume the period they're comparing did not include after the pub's closure ;)


As also mentioned by Amazon, the owners of the Spring Gardens (and of Fool Hardy ales and of the Hope Inn) were a couple. 

As they stated on Twitter and Facebook in January:

"Yes, me & Sam have split up, the reason for this post is because I am already fed up of hearing rumours! We will still be working together for the sake of the business and staying friends! On that cheery note, happy new year!"
https://twitter.com/foolhardyales/status/948640989543092226

Maybe that's a factor.  Maybe it's not.  It happened quite soon after the split - maybe that's a factor.  Who knows?  Well, someone does but it's not me.

I do severely doubt it's related to the Thumb.  The two pubs co-existed previously, and sensible heads wouldn't make rash judgements on sales based on the latter re-opening for a relatively short period of time.
The thumb there are to many bosses at the thumb one of the ladies that ran it has left .the cafe part may not hapen .
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: andrewbowden on February 27, 2018, 03:05:56 PM
The thumb there are to many bosses at the thumb one of the ladies that ran it has left .the cafe part may not hapen .

Cafe part.  To quote the shareholder newsletter:

"We showed our plans for an extension and a café at the shareholders get together and we’re progressing the possibilities by seeing what finance might be available. We’ll present further plans along with finance options for shareholder approval in a future meeting."

So yeah, it may not happen.  The finance may not fall into place.  The shareholders may reject the proposals.    But you know what?  It also MIGHT happen.  The finance may fall into place.  The shareholders may be very happy with it.

And as for too many bosses... Well that's the element of a community pub with many shareholders, many of whom will consider that as they are are owners their view is most important.  A manager needs - in some respects - to manage the shareholders (and to some extent Directors) and their expectations!
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: amazon on February 27, 2018, 03:18:51 PM
Cafe part.  To quote the shareholder newsletter:

"We showed our plans for an extension and a café at the shareholders get together and we’re progressing the possibilities by seeing what finance might be available. We’ll present further plans along with finance options for shareholder approval in a future meeting."

So yeah, it may not happen.  The finance may not fall into place.  The shareholders may reject the proposals.    But you know what?  It also MIGHT happen.  The finance may fall into place.  The shareholders may be very happy with it.

And as for too many bosses... Well that's the element of a community pub with many shareholders, many of whom will consider that as they are are owners their view is most important.  A manager needs - in some respects - to manage the shareholders (and to some extent Directors) and their expectations!
Agree hope it does happen .i was in Woodley last week having been born bread in woodley they now have a comunity cafe on the precint it was very busy allso have a computer group for older people it would be nice if that could happen at the thumb computer part as well .
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: andrewbowden on March 13, 2018, 09:23:52 AM
Spring Gardens has now been removed from Rightmove.  So either sold or withdrawn.
Title: Re: The Spring Gardens
Post by: amazon on March 24, 2018, 08:09:49 PM
Spring Gardens has now been removed from Rightmove.  So either sold or withdrawn.
His partner has paid him out .his partner is a she .so it stays for now .