Post by: Peter on March 29, 2002, 01:31:22 PM
Quick to condemn but quick to praise, I must congratulate Inland Waterways for making the move and installing new poo bins at strategic spots along the tow paths, well done.
All we have to do now is not only educate people to bag and bin their dogs mess but convince the brain dead few who bag and then abandon the poo nicely sealed in the bag. Surely it doesn't take a genius to realise that we are then left with a situation where we have a non biodegradable plastic bag, full of sh-one-t, where before we had a lump of wonderfully degradeable poo. Much better I'm sure to leave it as nature intended if you are not going to complete the whole operation.
Post by: on January 12, 2004, 04:40:13 PM
Post by: MCC Executive Committee on January 13, 2004, 12:59:50 PM
We will be exploring with the Enviromental Health section within SMBC and Waterways, to look at ourselves funding more bins along the canal and giving more publicity to the problem, in particular the Peak Forest arm, but that is not to say our urban area is not a problem still, but the canal is "littered" for quite a long way.
We have discussed this before.
By the way, the bins along the canal opposite the former Legion Club had a financial input from the Etherow Goyt Valley Partnership, a little known but very worthy organisation, who work closely with Waterways and SMBC.
(Dare one say, that this writer was it's chairman at the time.)
May I say that the dogs are not to blame, owners of dogs do know what their responsibilities are when they take their dogs for "walkies", and know full well what their dogs are likely to do, so there is no excuse really is there?
Â
Post by: MCC Executive Committee on January 14, 2004, 12:32:11 AM
Spoke to Waterways today, they are launching a national campaign at Crufts Dog Show in March about dog walking along towpaths- they intend providing more "pooper" bins along their towpaths nationally - we asked them to consider more along the Peak Forest Canal and Macclesfield Canal- Waterways provide the bins and the bags, but the real long term cost is of course emptying the bins and disposing of the contents- we believe the latter is carried out by SMBC in partnership with Waterways- see what happens (probably a costly exercise, but they are trying)!
Does anyone know of particular "black spots" around Marple where a bin might be useful or more publicity ie stickers, posters etc could help?- as an example, next time you walk round Etherow Park, look out for the notices near Compstall Mill.
Â
Post by: Ritzmar on January 15, 2004, 12:15:15 PM
And yet we find mountains of bottles, cans, plastics, newspapers, etc., many of which items take a hundred years or more to rot down, with no rubbish bins around in which to place this highly environmentally-unfriendly detritus. We have both tried to persuade various local government departments over the years to clean up the area to no avail, and so we and a few other like-minded citizens regularly take plastic bags to collect rubbish from Rose Hill to the A6 bridge whilst walking our dogs, in an attempt to at least minimise the impact on the environment which the filthy habits of some people has.
I can well see the need for pavements to be kept free of dog faeces, but the mess left by those of a higher evolutionary order (?) seems to go unregarded by the law and by those local government departments responsible for health and safety.
It is now a proved fact that rats (ever resourceful) are multiplying at a massive rate, due in no small part to the amount of organic material casually discarded by the unspeakable, in the form of donner kebabs, beefburgers, fish, chips, curries, etc., slung carelessly in the street, often at night when the general public are few, and the rats can safely forage for food. With the stray dogs which were so common when I was a child (rightly) removed from the streets, rats have a much better chance of multiplying and are doing so at an alarming rate. Laws on litter ought to be much more stringent with far heavier fines, or even imprisonment for persistent offenders, with the same kind of zealous enforcement applied which the police in their laughable application of the law reserve for motorists, or pubs serving alcohol after time to citizens otherwise peacefully engaged.
Yes, fine people for allowing their dogs to foul public footways, but let us get our priorities in the correct order.
Post by: on January 15, 2004, 08:19:05 PM
The dirtiest creatures on this planet are humans.
By a long way.
Post by: Dave on January 18, 2004, 05:27:13 PM
Post by: Peter on January 18, 2004, 08:19:21 PM
Of course if the owner can kick the offending mess into the undergrowth then all the better.
This is a response to the crazy practice some people have of bagging it in plastic and then abandoning the lot when no one is looking.
Post by: Ritzmar on January 19, 2004, 01:28:35 PM
As to the tying of dog faeces into plastic bags and then dumping it, has anyone heard of anything dafter?
Post by: MCC Executive Committee on January 19, 2004, 03:05:18 PM
Why don't you name and shame Ritzmar?
Apathy is about accepting something has not been done, when it should have been done, and you were in your rights to ask for it to be done, the council own nothing at the end of the day, it's ours for them to manage on our behalf, we listen to and accept excuses all the time far too often.
In fairness to the council (officers), they have grasped the metal, a bit, by carrying out some long overdue maintenance to Middlewood Way (after lots of chivvying) between Wood Lane and Rose Hill Station, including the refurbishment of a toilet block(???).- lets hope Middlewood Way will be maintained on a regular basis.
We will be having a litter cleanup in Marple (when the better weather comes ?), Middlewood Way is on the list, especially around the Wood Lane car park.
WHY NOT COME ALONG WHEN YOU SEE THE PUBLICITY?
No doubt some of you will say "The Council should be doing this anyway"- dead right, the Council have a legal obligation to cleanup, especially on their own land - the bottom line is, as usual, we "humans" should not dump it in the first place, but that does'nt mean the "council" should'nt clean it up.
It's the "Greener" bit of of "Cleaner, Greener, and Safer".
PS
Disposing of dog faeces is the law of the land by the way, and is just one part of the problem caused by us "humans".
Post by: Ritzmar on January 19, 2004, 03:45:18 PM
Yes, now that the council have done a lot of clearing of the Wood Lane Car Park area of excessive organic overgrowth I am cautiously optimistic about the turning of their attentions towards the inorganic mess in that area. I shall certainly attend when the 'Litter Cleanup' programme is publicised, as having made quite a few phone calls over the years to various council departments I want to add as much momentum to any proceedings as possible.
If I may be informed via this site (which I now call into every day) when any events in this activity may be being organised, then I will plan accordingly.
Thank you very much!
Post by: useful on January 22, 2004, 09:55:05 PM
The passages are so bad at times that you have to pick your way through on tip toe.
Post by: Deniseamb on January 23, 2004, 11:27:30 AM
Post by: on January 23, 2004, 01:19:00 PM
oh well,. what happened to free speech...:-(
Post by: Peter on January 23, 2004, 10:08:39 PM
We are not saying that bagging poo is wrong, far from it but that some idiots bag the poo and instead of placing it responsibly in the bins provided they throw them in the undergrowth. How long does it take for a plastic bag to de-compose with or without poo?
??
Post by: Ritzmar on January 25, 2004, 12:12:51 PM
As it seems that the council are at last preparing to do something about the litter situation by the spring of this year around the Wood Lane car park and Middlewood Way itself, I am prepared to hang fire on releasing the names of the council employees who in the past have promised to act and failed to do so. However, if the area has not been cleared completely of all rubbish by the beginning of August, then watch this space, as I will finally know then that only hot air is being produced from my efforts.
Peter,
Dog waste is regularly placed in plastic bags and strewn around Middlewood Way, often on the path itself. The nonesense of this is just breathtaking for the very reasons which you state. One wonders at the mentality of these specimens...I do not seem to hear too many reports of asylum inmates going AWOL...?
Post by: Deniseamb on January 26, 2004, 11:37:40 AM
Post by: Peter on January 26, 2004, 12:24:57 PM
Bagging up certainly beats the hell out of changing nappies.
Post by: on January 26, 2004, 06:50:16 PM
I am a responsible Alsation owner with a nine month old baby too.. I spend almost all of my time bagging poo!
Still.. It's stopped me biting my nails!
(sorry)
Post by: Ritzmar on January 28, 2004, 07:09:42 AM
Post by: on September 01, 2004, 10:37:04 AM
We dozen or so unpaid volunteers are fed up with collecting litter from these areas, but then having to take it all to the way to the council tip at Railway Road in order to discharge it is quite unacceptable. And whilst we are on the matter, how about signs regularly placed reminding people that not only dog faeces is unacceptable, but that throwing litter is a punishable offence.
If I receive no response within 30 days then watch this space for more names...
Post by: on September 01, 2004, 10:46:53 AM
Post by: on September 01, 2004, 03:29:43 PM
Post by: on September 25, 2004, 04:00:14 PM
Saw your posting and note you would'nt mind a Sunday work day.
If there is anyone else interested in "work days" please send me an email to:
mcc@peacefield.fsnet.co.uk
Have a look at the Community Council's site and go to the "Notice Board".
The "Three work days" are now completed and have made a difference, as do those volunteers who collect litter between Wood Lane car park and Rose Hill Station.
SMBC staff have been very helpful, and of course SMBC supplied tools, refreshments and generally directed the sessions - THANKS to them.
Adrian Taylor
Marple Community Council