From the planning application (DC/047839):
"Replacement footbridge and alterations at Marple Railway Station including extension to ticket building to provide toilet facilities."
No documents or plans anywhere for how it'll look. But isn't the old footbridge going to Peak Rail?
Here are some photos taken by Arthur Procter on 14 February of the work now underway to improve Marple Station:
http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/thumbnails.php?album=lastup&cat=-23(http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/albums/uploads/new/station/Station14212_009.JPG)
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What a shame the marvelous stairs can't be refurbished and kept!
Think they are going to peak rail society .keep use upto date with photos Arthur .
Seems an awful waste of money. The ticket office must surely be replaced by machines and increase the car park capacity with a multi-story would be a better way of spending the cash IMHO.
Seems an awful waste of money. The ticket office must surely be replaced by machines and increase the car park capacity with a multi-story would be a better way of spending the cash IMHO..
Personally, I would have preferred the money to be spent on trains rather than the station.As my post before this its going to peak rail .
I'm also concerned that previously a large amount of money has been spent on toilets (which have never been open) and information screens (which are quite often disconnected, out of action, pointing straight at the sun or just plain wrong).
I can see that disabled people may benefit from the lifts to platform 1, but in the past they have always been allowed (on trains turning round at Marple) to get on the train on platform 2 before it switches lines.
I wonder what will happen to the old footbridge - will it be cut up or can we have another crossing of the Goyt or the railway somewhere?
Seems an awful waste of money. The ticket office must surely be replaced by machines and increase the car park capacity with a multi-story would be a better way of spending the cash IMHO..
It's a conservation area multi storey no chance .
No Alison, it is a new bridge going in with (I understand) lifts at each end. The existing bridge is not in very good condition when you look at it carefully.
The Town Street area of Marple Bridge is the conservation area - I don't think it extends up Brabyns Brow. And surely it can't include the station, which boasts Marple's ugliest building!
I agree, it is a real shame that we have to lose the old bridge.. How will they do this old bridge out new one in straight away .if so could be a weekend job or put the new one farther down the platform .any body any info when being done please post would like to go take some photos
Apparently the whole project is a DfTransport funded initiative called A4A, it's for Disability Discrimination Act compliance. A new bridge with 2 lifts and an accesible toilet.
The old bridge is being lifted out and it is being given to Peak rail for Rowsley.
Total cost £1.2M.
One of the workmen told me that completion date is 16th May. He added that I can go down that day and tell him off because they hadn't finished in time!! We shall have to wait and see.
Two very ill mannered posts have been removed from this thread. Sort yourselves out Amazon and Miss Marple.
Why can't the steps be refurbished ? Who made the decision they can not and made the decision to move it/scrap it ?
how do you do that duke ,Why can't the steps be refurbished ? Who made the decision they can not and made the decision to move it/scrap it ?
Because we'd still need to install lifts to provide access to all. I like to save money with the best of them but even I can see that a lift can't be added without a new bridge, I just think we may as well go the whole hog and increase capacity of the car-park at the same time.
how do you do that duke ,Why can't the steps be refurbished ? Who made the decision they can not and made the decision to move it/scrap it ?
Because we'd still need to install lifts to provide access to all. I like to save money with the best of them but even I can see that a lift can't be added without a new bridge, I just think we may as well go the whole hog and increase capacity of the car-park at the same time.
how do you do that duke ,Why can't the steps be refurbished ? Who made the decision they can not and made the decision to move it/scrap it ?
Because we'd still need to install lifts to provide access to all. I like to save money with the best of them but even I can see that a lift can't be added without a new bridge, I just think we may as well go the whole hog and increase capacity of the car-park at the same time.
In addition to Howard's point that it's not all Get Carter style concrete, the upper deck can go over the tracks which not only is efficient use of space, it will keep commuters dry and just drop a lift shaft on each side of the upper deck.
In addition to Howard's point that it's not all Get Carter style concrete, the upper deck can go over the tracks which not only is efficient use of space, it will keep commuters dry and just drop a lift shaft on each side of the upper deck.
I agree Marple station desperately needs platform canopies, but what a depressing and absurd solution!
If we need more parking spaces, better to move/buy up the coalyard at Rose Hill and extend the car park there right up to Middlewood Way. You could more than double the car park there easily.
At Marple it would have been better to build a brand new ticket office, bridge and lifts at the nearest end of the platform, joining onto the road, allowing pedestrian access directly down to Platform 1 from Brabyns again. Then demolish all the current buildings and extend the car park up into that space. Unfortunately the way they're doing it, it'll be even more of a hodge-podge than before without even the one saving grace of the heritage footbridge. If they build the new bridge further back than the current one, it'll mean an even longer walk around the whole station for pedestrians coming from Brabyns.
In addition to Howard's point that it's not all Get Carter style concrete, the upper deck can go over the tracks which not only is efficient use of space, it will keep commuters dry and just drop a lift shaft on each side of the upper deck.
I agree Marple station desperately needs platform canopies, but what a depressing and absurd solution!
If we need more parking spaces, better to move/buy up the coalyard at Rose Hill and extend the car park there right up to Middlewood Way. You could more than double the car park there easily.
At Marple it would have been better to build a brand new ticket office, bridge and lifts at the nearest end of the platform, joining onto the road, allowing pedestrian access directly down to Platform 1 from Brabyns again. Then demolish all the current buildings and extend the car park up into that space. Unfortunately the way they're doing it, it'll be even more of a hodge-podge than before without even the one saving grace of the heritage footbridge. If they build the new bridge further back than the current one, it'll mean an even longer walk around the whole station for pedestrians coming from
We're is this extra car park going .theres no room on this extra space .
No, no, no. Shut Rose Hill and sell off the land. Use the money to build the car park at Marple. Make the service accessable with a shuttle bus to/from the station which picks up /sets down at Rose hill down to dan bank
Reply from peak rail today they are in line for the bridge but as yet don't know how it's coming to themNo Alison, it is a new bridge going in with (I understand) lifts at each end. The existing bridge is not in very good condition when you look at it carefully.
Have emailed peak rail to see if it is still going there .
No, no, no. Shut Rose Hill and sell off the land. Use the money to build the car park at Marple. Make the service accessable with a shuttle bus to/from the station which picks up /sets down at Rose hill down to dan bank
Not a cat in hells chance . Of a deck on top .No, no, no. Shut Rose Hill and sell off the land. Use the money to build the car park at Marple. Make the service accessable with a shuttle bus to/from the station which picks up /sets down at Rose hill down to dan bank
So we're going to close Rose Hill, which is far easier to access by foot for a vast majority of Marple's residential areas, in favour of the station located halfway down a steep hill which people will then need to be ferried to using a shuttle bus? I don't know where to begin...
Funding could surely be found if needed to improve the car park without selling anything. Really the newer overflow bit needs to be flattened out and completely redone, with a deck on top. There's loads of room all around it which could be used for a decked car park built on stilts.
Well anyway, I am going to campaign for a travelator/escalator up the hill - puff, puff, poor old thing! :D
I've always been surprised with the amount of cars parking at Marple station. Unless you live in the top end of Mellor or Compstall then fair enough but if you live anywhere else you could walk
Well anyway, I am going to campaign for a travelator/escalator up the hill - puff, puff, poor old thing! :D
chair lift would be better .think of the views .
No, no, no. Shut Rose Hill and sell off the land. Use the money to build the car park at Marple. Make the service accessable with a shuttle bus to/from the station which picks up /sets down at Rose hill down to dan bank
So we're going to close Rose Hill, which is far easier to access by foot for a vast majority of Marple's residential areas, in favour of the station located halfway down a steep hill which people will then need to be ferried to using a shuttle bus? I don't know where to begin...
Funding could surely be found if needed to improve the car park without selling anything. Really the newer overflow bit needs to be flattened out and completely redone, with a deck on top. There's loads of room all around it which could be used for a decked car park built on stilts.
With this in mind, selling something that is of little use to get something really useful would be a step forward.
Not a cat in hells chance . Of a deck on top .
Speaking as an ex-regular rail commuter to Manchester (not working there anymore) until GMPTE sort out the poor evening service at Rose Hill, it will never be an attractive option, except for prople who live close to tehe station. Any service that effectively shuts down at 6.30pm is never going to convince people to take a risk on using it, in case they get stuck at work and stranded car-less at their destination.
Speaking as an ex-regular rail commuter to Manchester (not working there anymore) until GMPTE sort out the poor evening service at Rose Hill, it will never be an attractive option, except for prople who live close to tehe station. Any service that effectively shuts down at 6.30pm is never going to convince people to take a risk on using it, in case they get stuck at work and stranded car-less at their destination.
Also the lack of a 9:30 train from Rose Hill and no parking at Marple by that time.
i agree what a shame another old piece of our history/heritage is going.destroying the marple we love,for a new type concreate (no doubt) eyesore....and using the excuse that the old bridge needs repairs etc a good sand blast and new paint
By comparison with other stations on the same line and in the general area Marple Station actually has a huge amount of free parking in its vicinity. The hard area near the ticket office is indeed limited and full by very early in the morning - but there is also a large overflow car park on the opposite side of the road and a car park in Marple Bridge only 200 yards away. Other people park on the side roads just above the canal. This is far more capacity than New Mills, Romiley etc.
I think the emphasis should be on campaigning for more and longer train services, not more spaces to dump a lump of metal that is going to do nothing all day - but then I prefer to walk to the station and keep my options open for which Marple terminus I return to in the evening.
i agree what a shame another old piece of our history/heritage is going.destroying the marple we love,for a new type concreate (no doubt) eyesore....and using the excuse that the old bridge needs repairs etc a good sand blast and new paint
I have to say I quite like Rose Hill station. My morning routine is to park up at Rose Hill Station, grab a Metro, get a seat, Plug in a the iPod. Get to work comfortable and ready. The train could be better, but all Northern Rail trains are pretty crap.
Unless I'm going on a train before 0730 Marple the service is gnarly, crowded and stressy.
The trains home could do with another one after 18:36 from Piccadilly, but I like it. Bear in mind too that by the time the train has gone round the Hyde loop the train fills up nicely.
And Tony Tweedy does a great job keeping the place going - a real local hero.
In fairness, if Rose hill was shut and Marple had a free multi-story car park & a train every 25 mins, would it be a more difficult commute.
Selling off Rose hill and building houses on the track bed will raise a lot of cash to improve Marple
Ecologically sound housing for the car-less world. My friend, I give you the future
I was chatting to a couple of the contractors the other day. They've installed these bridges at various stations over the past 6 months across the UK. One guy told me that they are using stone cladding on the Marple bridge in view of its location. He also mentioned that they had exposed the old track beds from when we had a mainline station [with through trains to London!] which is interesting, and they have of course uncovered the old tiled flooring which can be seen from the Manchester platform behind the fence at the Romiley end. But no skulls or secret rooms!
Some more work in progress photos from Arthur have been added to the Virtual Tour:.
http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/thumbnails.php?album=lastup&cat=-23
so we pay probably millions for a new bridge thats tottally out of characture that 3-4 disabled might want to use a year,but b4 they can they need the station fat controller to open it up for them so its useless unless a member of staff is there,on top of free travel,subsidised cars,travel vouchers,ring n ride,etc etc etc we spend millions demolishing another part of our history/heritage.all the other local stations are disbled friendly so use the free travel vouchers your given and get on the train there.aint selfish just reali agree what a shame another old piece of our history/heritage is going.destroying the marple we love,for a new type concreate (no doubt) eyesore....and using the excuse that the old bridge needs repairs etc a good sand blast and new paint
So how do you transport disabled people from this side to that side .dont say they get on the train this side go up to the loop back on the other side .the train goes out of service at marple comes back in service when it comes into the other side .allso drivers break time if they are not running late .
There wont be. A station fat controller it's going tck machines .when finished .so we pay probably millions for a new bridge thats tottally out of characture that 3-4 disabled might want to use a year,but b4 they can they need the station fat controller to open it up for them so its useless unless a member of staff is there,on top of free travel,subsidised cars,travel vouchers,ring n ride,etc etc etc we spend millions demolishing another part of our history/heritage.all the other local stations are disbled friendly so use the free travel vouchers your given and get on the train there.aint selfish just reali agree what a shame another old piece of our history/heritage is going.destroying the marple we love,for a new type concreate (no doubt) eyesore....and using the excuse that the old bridge needs repairs etc a good sand blast and new paint
So how do you transport disabled people from this side to that side .dont say they get on the train this side go up to the loop back on the other side .the train goes out of service at marple comes back in service when it comes into the other side .allso drivers break time if they are not running late .
Ooops! Sounds as though the Keep Marple Like It Was 1974 Society are out again!!
so we pay probably millions for a new bridge thats tottally out of characture that 3-4 disabled might want to use a year,but b4 they can they need the station fat controller to open it up for them so its useless unless a member of staff is there,on top of free travel,subsidised cars,travel vouchers,ring n ride,etc etc etc we spend millions demolishing another part of our history/heritage.all the other local stations are disbled friendly so use the free travel vouchers your given and get on the train there.aint selfish just real
Rotten John - please don't post such offensive nonsense again. Clearly you have never had any need to befriend a disabled person, have any meaningful interaction with a less abled person, or God forbid be related to one.I've probably done more for disabled and oaps in stockport and marple than you will ever do,and im still doing!!..which is why i made my valid point........do we as a community really think that spending millions on a tiny train station to build a lift to take a few extra passingers a year,that will not be in use unless a fat controller(thomas the tank type) is in postion to use the lift ? as someone else pointed out it will be UNMANED soon so there will be no body there to do it,so it will be useless,when i add stockport council allready lay on a fine service for disabled to take them around the borough via mini bus or taxi,and woodley and bredbury and stockport train stations are all easy accsess to all and are all only one or two stops away.no wonder all the rail companies go bust! they got people like you in control bet you still vote labour! want to fix everything but aint got the money to fix it so we fix it anyway we can worry about the debt,our grandkids can pay the debt!
Rotten John - please don't post such offensive nonsense again. Clearly you have never had any need to befriend a disabled person, have any meaningful interaction with a less abled person, or God forbid be related to one.I've probably done more for disabled and oaps in stockport and marple than you will ever do,and im still doing!!..which is why i made my valid point........do we as a community really think that spending millions on a tiny train station to build a lift to take a few extra passingers a year,that will not be in use unless a fat controller(thomas the tank type) is in postion to use the lift ? as someone else pointed out it will be UNMANED soon so there will be no body there to do it,so it will be useless,when i add stockport council allready lay on a fine service for disabled to take them around the borough via mini bus or taxi,and woodley and bredbury and stockport train stations are all easy accsess to all and are all only one or two stops away.no wonder all the rail companies go bust! they got people like you in control bet you still vote labour! want to fix everything but aint got the money to fix it so we fix it anyway we can worry about the debt,our grandkids can pay the debt!
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so common wheres the answer ??? no body will be there to help the people cross the bridge....so why waste the money ????..oh i forgot youll worry about that once its built!!........ thank you i rest my case!
so common wheres the answer ??? no body will be there to help the people cross the bridge....so why waste the money ????..oh i forgot youll worry about that once its built!!........ thank you i rest my case!
http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=-23&pid=6766
Why have they built this lift shaft so far back from the existing platform? Isn't that where there used to be an additional bay platform track? The same bay platform they've just suggested re-opening should Marple's rail service to Manchester be converted to a more frequent tram-train service (info here (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=4136.0)), allowing trams to turn back without disrupting the main line.
So now the previously four-platform Marple is stuck with only two through platforms. Some joined-up thinking there! ::)
A dozen shots taken by Arthur of the new bridge being installed during the early hours of this morning have just been added to the Virtual Tour:
http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/thumbnails.php?album=lastup&cat=-23
Very impressive structure!
I used it yesterday, and thought the steps were much more user-friendly than the old ones. Mind you - I am speaking as someone who might well need the lifts in due course!! ;)
Some fantastic photos taken by Arthur Procter of the old bridge being removed from Marple Station at around 3am on Sunday morning have been added to the Virtual Tour:
http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/thumbnails.php?album=lastup&cat=-23
Network Rail have donated and delivered it to Peak Rail at Rowsley where it will be re-erected and have a plaque stating that it came from Marple..
I remember years ago (probably late 1970-something) reading that Marple had some of the best and historically important railway iron work in the country. Sadly this was after the said iron work had been scrapped.Network Rail have donated and delivered it to Peak Rail at Rowsley where it will be re-erected and have a plaque stating that it came from Marple..
Great thanks mark .