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Title: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: amazon on July 22, 2011, 09:27:37 PM
  Honest answers please some of you have said you shop regularly in Marple but not for your main shop
 would you use tesco or any other supermarket if it came to Marple .
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Harry on July 22, 2011, 09:38:22 PM
Tesco - No.
Asda  - No.
Waitrose - Yes, most definitely.
Sainsburys - Yes.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: tina on July 22, 2011, 10:08:12 PM
yes I would :)
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Belly on July 22, 2011, 10:10:42 PM
Yes - it would save a trip to Tesco Stockport or Sainsbury Hazel Grove
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: ericthehamster on July 22, 2011, 10:11:58 PM
Mine's the same as Harry, with an additional "yes" to M&S food (but probably for the odd luxury to supplement the main shop at co-op).

M&S and Waitrose came out the best ethically in the Shopped book (mentioned elsewhere!).

http://www.foe.co.uk/living/articles/shopped.html
http://idler.co.uk/conversations/conversations-joanna-blythman/
 

Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Duke Fame on July 22, 2011, 10:46:44 PM
Tesco - No.
Asda  - No.
Waitrose - Not even in a famine would I pay those prices for some poncy packaging
Sainsburys - No
Moggys - yes
Netto - perhaps
Aldi - use the one near the gym
Lidl - perhaps

In fact, I think I'd boycott in principal. I'm still boycotting Sharp, Reg Vardy, Vaux, Vodafone and Candy washing machines
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: heather on July 23, 2011, 11:15:27 AM
i think everyone would use it if it was cheaper and  closer than the co-op
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Dave on July 23, 2011, 02:29:06 PM
I'd rather it wasn't a Tesco (so irritating!), but even if it was, we'd all end up using it, wouldn't we.  After all, what other options do we have:

1.  The Co-op.  Limited choice, shelves sometimes half-empty, can be a bit pricey.
2.  Morrison's.  Good shop, decent value, but 4.5 miles away.  Crawling traffic in Bredbury is a pain.
3.  Sainsbury's. 4.5 miles away.  Can be pricey. Tag line ('try something new today') almost as irritating and patronising as Tesco's 'every little helps'! 
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Harry on July 23, 2011, 06:25:02 PM
No, we wouldn't all end up using it if it was a Tesco. If it ended up as any of the supermarkets that think that price is more important than quality then I, and no doubt many others, would never set foot in it.

I don't use Tesco now, and have no intention of ever doing. Wherever they may open.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Ali Bee on July 23, 2011, 09:03:01 PM
I haven't shopped at a Tesco in some time and am even more less inclined to do so since they had a promotion that used greyhound racing as a 'lure'.  The racing industry is vile and cruel please look at this site:

http://www.greyhoundaction.org.uk/greyhound.html
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Duke Fame on July 23, 2011, 11:00:04 PM
I haven't shopped at a Tesco in some time and am even more less inclined to do so since they had a promotion that used greyhound racing as a 'lure'.  The racing industry is vile and cruel please look at this site:

http://www.greyhoundaction.org.uk/greyhound.html

They have a nerve, they built on the local greyhound track at Where I used to live. Mind I preferred whippets for racing.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Lisa Oldham on July 23, 2011, 11:21:23 PM
it would still be cheaper to travel to asda and buy there so no to everyone but asda!  For extras its not going to be that close to me so convenience would still mean spar or  coop.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Catwoman on July 24, 2011, 12:12:13 PM
Tesco or Sainsbury - NO on principle >:(
If located on Hibbert Lane - whatever it was, definitely NO on principle  >:(
Wouldn't mind a small scale alternative to the Co-op located in the old Hanbury's or Iceland (Iceland Group is currently up for sale, so the store on Market St may eventually change hands depending who buys out the Group), or some other suitable location within the District Centre, preferably not Tesco or Sainsburys though!  :)
Would prefer to see the Hibbert Lane campus used for affordable housing for young families or retired folks and something like a community centre for the benefit of Marple people.  :) :)
As I said before - how come a small group of College Governors can hold Marple to ransom  ???
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Duke Fame on July 24, 2011, 02:33:49 PM
Tesco or Sainsbury - NO on principle >:(
If located on Hibbert Lane - whatever it was, definitely NO on principle  >:(
Wouldn't mind a small scale alternative to the Co-op located in the old Hanbury's or Iceland (Iceland Group is currently up for sale, so the store on Market St may eventually change hands depending who buys out the Group), or some other suitable location within the District Centre, preferably not Tesco or Sainsburys though!  :)
Would prefer to see the Hibbert Lane campus used for affordable housing for young families or retired folks and something like a community centre for the benefit of Marple people.  :) :)
As I said before - how come a small group of College Governors can hold Marple to ransom  ???

I agree to a 'no' in principal. I think the other options of coop alternatives are not going to happen. The hanbry shop will not suit a coop competitor. Iceland may be up for sale but it's the group not the stores so anyone taking over is as likely to keep the Iceland brand or perhaps a similar model may take it such as farmfoods.

How about the college only sells part of the plot to a lidl sized shop. That would be acceptable to me.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: hollins on July 24, 2011, 08:04:46 PM
Yes, I would use Tesco - or, better still, Sainsburys - if they came to Marple.

If they were forced to improve the roads and help the college financially as a condition of coming here then all the better: I don't recall the Co-op doing either.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: BidingTime on July 24, 2011, 08:35:26 PM
Doubt it the Co-Op is within easy walking/carrying shopping home distance and i like the store,don't see the need for another supermarket in Marple to be honest.......now a health club is a different matter  ;)
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Dave on July 25, 2011, 09:25:15 AM
If they were forced to improve the roads and help the college financially as a condition of coming here then all the better: I don't recall the Co-op doing either.

Good point: local authorities have the power to place that kind of condition on a planning consent - it's called a Section 106 Agreement.  Such a condition has to be necessary to make a proposed development acceptable in planning terms - so I don't think it could go as far as 'helping the college financially' - but it could certainly include paying for road improvements. 
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: JMC on July 25, 2011, 11:46:48 AM
I maybe would. We use Tesco online shopping (coming from Stockport store). We top up in marple and use shops regulary. Co-op is expensive but handy. Staff are more friendly than they used to be which is good.

I worry about the effect on local shops, though.
If the college remains active on the Buxton road site, I would worry that places like Gregs would get less trade as students would possible go to Tesco (or whatever store) for lunch. Also, stationary/pound plus type of shops may suffer if it is a large store. Another thing is, parents with prams may find it easier to go there rather than struggle round local shops. I also worry about traffic. It's the worst place to cross at that roundabout for kids. Imagine trucks coming round those bends!

From a totally selfish point of view it would be handy for us but I wouldn't prioritise that over the wellbieng of the community.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Dave on July 25, 2011, 01:09:32 PM
I'm willing to bet that some posters who swear they would never shop there on principle (or in Duke's case, on principal) would eventually do so, occasionally at least.  There are times when you need to buy stuff and you simply haven't got time to drive further away. 

I think this is a really interesting and complex issue, and the more I think about it the more uncertain I become as to what the best outcome might be.

On the one hand, there are clear benefits to the community if the college sells the site for a supermarket:

1.  The college gets a shiny new building, purpose built and energy-efficient.  That is a major boost for the quality of educational facilities for our children and grandchildren.
2.   There is an unhealthy monopoly of supermarket provision in Marple.  The Co-op has two, and apart from Iceland, that's all there is.  This scheme would provide some much-needed competition. 
3.   Many local residents drive to supermarkets outside Marple to shop, causing traffic congestion elsewhere, and environmental pollution.  A supermarket in Hibbert Lane would be within walking distance, or a very short drive or bus ride, for most of us.   

And on the other hand, there is one clear disadvantage: an increase in traffic congestion within Marple, and especially around the Hibbert lane/Church Lane and Hibbert Lane/Stockport Road junctions, which are already clogged up at times.  Also on Marple Ridge and Windlehurst Road, as people from Disley and High Lane drive to shop here. These are both narrow and winding lanes, unsuited to lots of traffic.

Apart from these factors, there remains one big uncertainty: the effect on local shops.  Some posters on this forum seem to assume that the arrival of a Tesco or Sainsbury's in Marple would automatically drive local shops out of business, but I'm not so sure.  Ask the people at Hollins Electrical or Archer's or the toy shop what they think of having a supermarket across the road - I bet they don't mind a bit!   No, the reality could be more complex - some shops might be affected, and may even close, but others would thrive, and new shops open, as many more people shop in Marple, instead of going to Hazel Grove, Bredbury or Stockport.   But it's a free market - ultimately competition drives standards up and prices down: small local shops which continue to provide personal service, and quality at a competitive price, will survive and even thrive. 
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: amazon on July 25, 2011, 02:54:49 PM
I'm willing to bet that some posters who swear they would never shop there on principle (or in Duke's case, on principal) would eventually do so, occasionally at least.  There are times when you need to buy stuff and you simply haven't got time to drive further away. 

I think this is a really interesting and complex issue, and the more I think about it the more uncertain I become as to what the best outcome might be.

On the one hand, there are clear benefits to the community if the college sells the site for a supermarket:

1.  The college gets a shiny new building, purpose built and energy-efficient.  That is a major boost for the quality of educational facilities for our children and grandchildren.
2.   There is an unhealthy monopoly of supermarket provision in Marple.  The Co-op has two, and apart from Iceland, that's all there is.  This scheme would provide some much-needed competition. 
3.   Many local residents drive to supermarkets outside Marple to shop, causing traffic congestion elsewhere, and environmental pollution.  A supermarket in Hibbert Lane would be within walking distance, or a very short drive or bus ride, for most of us.   

And on the other hand, there is one clear disadvantage: an increase in traffic congestion within Marple, and especially around the Hibbert lane/Church Lane and Hibbert Lane/Stockport Road junctions, which are already clogged up at times.  Also on Marple Ridge and Windlehurst Road, as people from Disley and High Lane drive to shop here. These are both narrow and winding lanes, unsuited to lots of traffic.

Apart from these factors, there remains one big uncertainty: the effect on local shops.  Some posters on this forum seem to assume that the arrival of a Tesco or Sainsbury's in Marple would automatically drive local shops out of business, but I'm not so sure.  Ask the people at Hollins Electrical or Archer's or the toy shop what they think of having a supermarket across the road - I bet they don't mind a bit!   No, the reality could be more complex - some shops might be affected, and may even close, but others would thrive, and new shops open, as many more people shop in Marple, instead of going to Hazel Grove, Bredbury or Stockport.   But it's a free market - ultimately competition drives standards up and prices down: small local shops which continue to provide personal service, and quality at a competitive price, will survive and even thrive. 

excellent post  .
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Catwoman on July 25, 2011, 06:18:57 PM
Hibbert Lane is too far to walk into Marple, and there is nothing interesting along the way, no other shops, so I can't see many if any people shopping at a supermarket there bothering to go into Marple.

So I think it would have an effect on other shops in Marple. If footfall along Market Street, the Hollins etc declines, its bound to have a knock-on effect.

I know most people think that only shops that are directly in competition with supermarkets suffer, and they do initially, but if shoppers get used to not visiting Marple centre because they are drawn to Hibbert Lane, then eventually all shops will suffer, niche or otherwise.

If we need another supermarket in Marple, then it should be located in the centre, where it would be an additional attraction for shoppers and within easy distance of the existing local shops. Hibbert Lane is the wrong place to put a supermarket.

I know this doesn't solve the problem for the College, but what's wrong with building some housing there?
 
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Miss Marple on July 25, 2011, 07:07:00 PM
I would use another store if it was not on the Hibbert Lane Site.  Hey has  anyone  bothered to ask the large cluster of elderly people who will be most effected by the development due to living at the side and across the road from it.  Oops!  most of them havent got acsess to the internet, blimey most don't own a car either to get to the meeting. Strange old world that the people who it will directly affect are the ones least likely to have a voice.  I don't live as near to the development as they do !  Do you   ???
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Catwoman on July 25, 2011, 07:11:33 PM
Here, here Miss Marple
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: amazon on July 25, 2011, 08:00:48 PM
I would use another store if it was not on the Hibbert Lane Site.  Hey has  anyone  bothered to ask the large cluster of elderly people who will be most effected by the development due to living at the side and across the road from it.  Oops!  most of them havent got acsess to the internet, blimey most don't own a car either to get to the meeting. Strange old world that the people who it will directly affect are the ones least likely to have a voice.  I don't live as near to the development as they do !  Do you   ???

A Tesco would be ide ;)al for them just bob across the road .
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Dave on July 26, 2011, 09:44:23 AM
I honestly believe that if we get this right, it could turn out to be one of the best things that ever happened to Marple.  We've got lots of excellent local shops - I won't make a list of examples because I'm bound to forget one or two and inadvertently offend someone.  But we all know which they are.  What they need most is more business, which means attracting more people to shop in Marple, both from the surrounding area and from within Marple itself.  Let's be confident and believe in our local shops - they are really good, and when more people discover that, they will want to come and shop here, instead of going to Stockport, Hazel Grove, Glossop etc.   

How to do that?  Attract what developers call an 'anchor tenant' - a major store with a national profile which will draw new shoppers into the town.  A supermarket could fulfill this function.  People would drive here, park, do their weekly shop, then have a stroll down Market Street, have a coffee, discover some of our other excellent shops, maybe have a walk along the canal, and than a drink and/or a meal at one of our excellent pubs, cafes and wine bars.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Miss Marple on July 26, 2011, 10:19:39 AM
Dave can I. Just ask will the additional traffic and noise cause you problems IE do you live on. The main route to the college or in the immediate vicinity ?   
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Duke Fame on July 26, 2011, 11:27:30 AM
I honestly believe that if we get this right, it could turn out to be one of the best things that ever happened to Marple.  We've got lots of excellent local shops - I won't make a list of examples because I'm bound to forget one or two and inadvertently offend someone.  But we all know which they are.  What they need most is more business, which means attracting more people to shop in Marple, both from the surrounding area and from within Marple itself.  Let's be confident and believe in our local shops - they are really good, and when more people discover that, they will want to come and shop here, instead of going to Stockport, Hazel Grove, Glossop etc.  

How to do that?  Attract what developers call an 'anchor tenant' - a major store with a national profile which will draw new shoppers into the town.  A supermarket could fulfill this function.  People would drive here, park, do their weekly shop, then have a stroll down Market Street, have a coffee, discover some of our other excellent shops, maybe have a walk along the canal, and than a drink and/or a meal at one of our excellent pubs, cafes and wine bars.


There is a principal (there especially for you Dave ;-)) of the anchor tenant attracting other retail establishments but the idea is that the anchor is central to the development whilst all the shops feed off. THis is what the Metro Centre & the likes did in securing the big M&S's & debenhams fbefore attracting all the other retailers.  The Hibbert lane site is not central and people are very lazy, they will not walk to the town from a supermarket on Hibbert lane they will see it as 200 yds too far.  I’ve seen people shop in Morrisons and drive to Homebase, they will not walk around Marple.
If everyone was inclined to act as you believe they will act, they will look in the Co-op, buy the basics, cross the road to the bakery and then if they want some cheap deals, walk up to Iceland & the pound plus.
The Market street area will become like Edgeley, new mills etc. with a lot of empty shops or temporary leases
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Dave on July 26, 2011, 01:45:53 PM
do you live on. The main route to the college or in the immediate vicinity ?   
No, and as I have said elsewhere, I agree that potential traffic congestion is an issue of real concern.

If everyone was inclined to act as you believe they will act, they will look in the Co-op, buy the basics, cross the road to the bakery and then if they want some cheap deals, walk up to Iceland & the pound plus.
Funnily enough, that's more or less what I already do myself, except I tend to walk past Iceland and go to John Neal's greengrocer's. 
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Duke Fame on July 26, 2011, 02:34:38 PM
If everyone was inclined to act as you believe they will act, they will look in the Co-op, buy the basics, cross the road to the bakery and then if they want some cheap deals, walk up to Iceland & the pound plus.
Funnily enough, that's more or less what I already do myself, except I tend to walk past Iceland and go to John Neal's greengrocer's. 
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I do walk from almost exactly the distance of the Tesco site into the town but i will at times take the car if I'm going to have bags / lazy. I suspect you & I are the exception. People even drive their kids to school now, we are not the most obese nation in Europe for nothing.

You are pretty much undoing your argument that Marple needs a large supermarket. Already you acknowledge there is competition in price & quality within the town. That competition is within walking distance of the 3 car parks. I'd suggest all is needed is the parking meters to be removed and there is no need at all for a Tesco/sainsbury/Asda/Morereasons
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Dave on July 26, 2011, 03:52:18 PM
You are pretty much undoing your argument that Marple needs a large supermarket. Already you acknowledge there is competition in price & quality within the town. That competition is within walking distance of the 3 car parks. I'd suggest all is needed is the parking meters to be removed and there is no need at all for a Tesco/sainsbury/Asda/Morereasons

I take your point Duke, but if that were really the case, why do so few people come here to shop, and why do so many Marple residents drive out of Marple to do our weekly shopping?  Your implication is that if there were free parking in Marple, people would flock here to shop - nice idea, but I don't believe it!  Whether we like it or not, the big supermarket chains are successful because they provide what people want. 

The Market street area will become like Edgeley, new mills etc. with a lot of empty shops or temporary leases.

That's an interesting observation, but I think it supports my view rather than yours.  Edgeley and New Mills are indeed run down, but that's not because they've got a supermarket nearby;  on the contrary, they haven't got a supermarket nearby, and that's at the root of their problems. 
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Jo Scarlett on July 26, 2011, 03:58:26 PM
I disagree, New Mills has a large Coop and Edgeley / Cheadle Heath have a Morrisons and an Aldi. 
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Dave on July 26, 2011, 04:23:09 PM
Morrison's and Aldi are in Cheadle Heath, not Edgeley - it's nearly a mile away, and that's the problem.

The New Mills Co-op is certainly not large (it's much smaller than our Co-op), and crucially, it's too far from the town centre. 

Incidentally, the small supermarket in the middle of New Mills (the one that houses the post office and has recently been a Spar), is apparently about to re-open as a Sainsbury's - presumably just the convenience store version, like the one in Romiley? 
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Jo Scarlett on July 26, 2011, 05:26:57 PM
To use the Coop in Marple many, many people (myself included) walk / travel well over a mile so I don't fully understand your point as I would still consider that to be local?

I would not be opposed however, to the opening of a Sainsburys/Tesco Local (as in Romiley) opening up on Market Street as this would add variety and choice to our village, but an 'out of town' sized operation on Hibbert Lane would be a disaster, in my opinion.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Taurus on July 26, 2011, 07:20:34 PM
that bit about people driving from morrisons to homebase made me laugh. Even though it would be quicker to walk than drive out then in again, it doesn't surprise me.

It reminded me of that scene in the old 80's comedy Just Good Friends, when he says he is just nipping out to get a bottle of wine, gets in his car and drives to the off licence across the road.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Dave on July 27, 2011, 09:36:46 AM
To use the Coop in Marple many, many people (myself included) walk / travel well over a mile so I don't fully understand your point as I would still consider that to be local?

My point is that many many of us, sadly, are too lazy to do that, Jo - as in Duke's example:

people are very lazy, they will not walk to the town from a supermarket on Hibbert lane they will see it as 200 yds too far.  I’ve seen people shop in Morrisons and drive to Homebase, they will not walk around Marple.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Bartlett on July 27, 2011, 10:25:52 AM
It is alright the people of Marple who live on the other side of the precinct saying yes to certain supermarket's.

If you lived on Hibbert Lane, or any other road that backs onto the college campus you would be upset and say no to any supermarket.

At the moment the college has its bins emptied on a Thursday morning at 4 am.  The sound travels all around.  Imagine what it will be like with deliveries every day.

How inconsiderate some people are about this.  They are only thinking of themselves and not the community.  Shops will close because people will not travel into Marple and pay to park after they have been to a supermarket that will sell everything else.

Do you really want to see a ghost town and a supermarket taking over the community.  I thought that fighing for local shops was more important that having to travel to either Hazel Grove, Bredbury or if you really want to shop at Tescos Glossop or Whalley Bridge.

Think about this carefully about how this will down value the property that is already lower than most places just so you can shop at a supermarket in Marple.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Dave on July 27, 2011, 04:47:27 PM
I thought that fighing for local shops was more important that having to travel to either Hazel Grove, Bredbury or if you really want to shop at Tescos Glossop or Whalley Bridge.

Apart from Glossop, Marple has a much bigger population than any of those places.  It's high time we had a decent supermarket - it's a bit bizarre that we have to drive several miles to a smaller place to find one! 
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: admin on July 27, 2011, 08:45:05 PM
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Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Dave on July 28, 2011, 04:59:15 PM
Good grief, is my bald patch really that big  :o
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: sleepless on July 28, 2011, 05:57:47 PM
I would use a small supermarket if it was in the town centre, not if it was in a residential area.  I boycott Tesco also - they are the Rupert Murdoch of supermarkets.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: neil f on July 28, 2011, 06:48:52 PM
we would use the co-op if they had an honest pricing policy and some of the staff recieved some customer service training.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: JMC on July 28, 2011, 08:23:05 PM
I have spoke to a few people about the possible supermarket and their view and am surprised how many people seem keen on the idea. Mainly as they don't like the coop as it is expensive and some people mention jobs.

Also after what happened with closing Offerton School and the 2 marple Schools, I don't really believe the council actually will listen, plentry of people protested there too.

Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: moonforest on July 28, 2011, 08:56:40 PM
I have spoke to a few people about the possible supermarket and their view and am surprised how many people seem keen on the idea. Mainly as they don't like the coop as it is expensive and some people mention jobs.

Also after what happened with closing Offerton School and the 2 marple Schools, I don't really believe the council actually will listen, plentry of people protested there too.



Even though it seems like a daunting task I feel it is well worth fighting against this Tesco because I believe it would have a negative impact on the community nature of Marple in a way that most of us would regret in the end.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: JMC on July 29, 2011, 01:49:24 PM
I agree with you. But I think more people will come on board if they are given info/leaflets with the deeper issues and effect on community. Several people (luckily a minority) I spoke to about it seemed pleased at the thought of a Tesco in Marple. All mentioned the coop being too expensive/rubbish/having a monopoly. So any campaigns need to address all these angles and the coop also could do something to show they are going to improve otherwise the promise of lower prices will win through for some people.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Mr Marple on July 29, 2011, 05:10:29 PM
Simply repeating Moonforest, I'd hate to see Marple's community go down the drain because some people want to make a profit.

Ignorance and or the fact that people simply don't know the ways in which Marple will deteriorate should be addressed and thankfully leaflets are to be  handed out.

I do not look forward to bunged up roads due to the extra traffic, I do not want to have to drive on damaged roads due to the increased usage which would inevitably bring more interuptions because of the road works.

I'd like to know what the co-op think about this Tesco issue, if you know please say.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: sleepless on July 29, 2011, 07:05:44 PM
I agree that some people seem blind to the effect that this will have on Marple as a town - it will affect everybody living here, not just those in the immediate vicinity of the site.  There are other sites which could be used for a suitably sized supermarket for LOCAL people nearer or in the town centre.  If the Hibbert Lane site was developed to include affordable housing, a family friendly pub, a leisure centre with swimming pool and a children's play area then this would benefit the people of Marple.  A superstore will benefit those living in "nice" areas round about who won't have to live with it on their doorstep.  They won't contribute to the local community and will drown us in traffic fumes.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: JMC on July 30, 2011, 10:52:50 AM
  If the Hibbert Lane site was developed to include affordable housing, a family friendly pub, a leisure centre with swimming pool and a children's play area then this would benefit the people of Marple. 

I agree but, sadly, I think the college will go to this highest bidder which will almost certainly be a supermarket chain.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Cyberman on July 31, 2011, 12:49:02 AM
There is an interesting parallel concerning the development of the now-closed BAE factory in Woodford. Here the local residents are being invited to contribute to plans, which will probably include residential, retail and leisure uses. The difference is that at Woodford the council own the land, not those [people*] at CAMSFC.

Re the original post- Tesco, WalMart (sorry - Asda) NO WAY on principle
Sainsburys - unlikely (most of their profit goes to the Quatari royal family - they rip us off enough with their oil)
Morrisons, Aldi, - more likely
LIDL - probably not, too down-market.

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Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Dave on July 31, 2011, 12:18:26 PM
The [people*] at CAMSFC' are running the local college where our kids and grankids go. They are grabbing the money in order to provide our children with much better facilities. I appreciate that some people do not want a big supermarket on Hibbert Lane, but that kind of abuse is completely unwarranted*.

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Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Maria on July 31, 2011, 12:57:13 PM
I would use another store if it was not on the Hibbert Lane Site.  Hey has  anyone  bothered to ask the large cluster of elderly people who will be most effected by the development due to living at the side and across the road from it.  Oops!  most of them havent got acsess to the internet, blimey most don't own a car either to get to the meeting. Strange old world that the people who it will directly affect are the ones least likely to have a voice.  I don't live as near to the development as they do !  Do you   ???

A Tesco would be ide ;)al for them just bob across the road .

I live facing the campus and it would not be ideal for me! Completely disagree.  Selling to residential housing developer with a contribution from SMBC (which I believe could be provided) should be enough to allow the college to do what it needs to do, whilst keeping the local community happy. 

Would anyone like to live facing the Portwood Tesco? 

I am not against progress but believe it can be achieved in a way that can keep most people happy.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: JMC on July 31, 2011, 01:32:46 PM
Surely, though, the college as a business is going to sell to the highest bidder? I think it would be very unlikely they will go millions lower-even if they had extreme goodwill to the community. I also very much doubt SMBC will add money to anything such as housing. Also, people often object to new council estates.

I have a feeling, if it is Tesco as the high bidder, that they will be sweet talking the council and community to win over opposition. In other areas, they have built conservation areas ajoining retail units etc. So I wouldn't be surprised if the leisure centre idea is true. they probably already know (people have mentioned surveys etc.) that the Co-op is unpopular and has a monopoly; thus giving them a good argument for their store (in their eyes) on top of the jobs argument.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Cyberman on July 31, 2011, 02:33:26 PM
Irrespective of what CAMSFC is, selling the land to the highest bidder without considering the future is WRONG. If the result is large supermarket like Tesco Portwood, the consequences for Marple will be detrimental to the well-being of residents. The result would be a less sustainable lifetyle, with more traffic, more pollution and a destruction of the village atmosphere.  Young people would be much better off growing up in Marple as it is now, rather than a post-Tesco Marple.

This is not the way to finance an educational establishment.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Dave on July 31, 2011, 03:14:52 PM
As a public body, funded by the taxpayer, camsfc would probably not even be allowed to sell the land for less than 'best consideration' - jargon for the highest bidder.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: RWW on August 01, 2011, 03:37:35 PM
No - that is all
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Smithy166 on August 01, 2011, 04:15:50 PM
Short answer -  NO!
Long answer - NO!
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Rachael on August 01, 2011, 06:56:39 PM
Idealy it would have been great if Asda had taken over the co op like they did  in Hazel grove .
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Rachael on August 01, 2011, 06:58:48 PM
In answer to the question, yes I would use a supermarket if it came to Marple , I get annoyed with myself every time I spend money in the co op becausse its so expensive :( .... Asda would be great , but whether it would be great on Hibbert Lane is a different thing .
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Prucilla on August 03, 2011, 12:22:37 PM
  Honest answers please some of you have said you shop regularly in Marple but not for your main shop
 would you use tesco or any other supermarket if it came to Marple .
Yes
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: squirrel123 on August 03, 2011, 12:37:43 PM
In answer to the question, yes I would use a supermarket if it came to Marple , I get annoyed with myself every time I spend money in the co op becausse its so expensive :( .... Asda would be great , but whether it would be great on Hibbert Lane is a different thing .

I know that the Coop is more expensive than some other supermarkets but it is exactly the reason why it and the independent shops have been able to co-exist. Going to the Coop is more expensive but more convenient for everything under one roof, whereas shopping at the independent local stores is cheaper but more time consuming. This set up allows people to make up their own minds about how and where they want to shop. A large, cheaper supermarket will undercut all of these shops (including the Coop) and drive them out of business. THe centre of Marple will then effectively close down, leading to vandalism and anti social behaviour. It will not be a pleasant and safe place to raise our children if this happens.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Miss Marple on August 03, 2011, 07:35:54 PM
 Honest answers please some of you have said you shop regularly in Marple but not for your main shop
 would you use tesco or any other supermarket if it came to Marple .
Yes
Yes !   I am not against any supermarket but not on Hibbert Lane where most of our elderly residents live in the bungalows and across the road in flats
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Duke Fame on August 03, 2011, 08:50:40 PM
 Honest answers please some of you have said you shop regularly in Marple but not for your main shop
 would you use tesco or any other supermarket if it came to Marple .
Yes
Yes !   I am not against any supermarket but not on Hibbert Lane where most of our elderly residents live in the bungalows and across the road in flats

That's quite a good point, having a shop too close will mean the elderly don't get enough exercise
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Miss Marple on August 03, 2011, 08:59:12 PM
Honest answers please some of you have said you shop regularly in Marple but not for your main shop
 would you use tesco or any other supermarket if it came to Marple .
Yes
Yes !   I am not against any supermarket but not on Hibbert Lane where most of our elderly residents live in the bungalows and across the road in flats
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Re your ignorant and ageist remarks Duke Fame
You are beyond belief ! Most of the elderly I am referring to can not walk and are reliant on others to wash dress, feed and shop for them!  
That's quite a good point, having a shop too close will mean the elderly don't get enough exercise
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Smithy166 on August 03, 2011, 09:10:35 PM
 Honest answers please some of you have said you shop regularly in Marple but not for your main shop
 would you use tesco or any other supermarket if it came to Marple .
Yes
Yes !   I am not against any supermarket but not on Hibbert Lane where most of our elderly residents live in the bungalows and across the road in flats

That's quite a good point, having a shop too close will mean the elderly don't get enough exercise

I understand the need for debate, but that david was uncalled for.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Duke Fame on August 03, 2011, 10:06:27 PM
 Honest answers please some of you have said you shop regularly in Marple but not for your main shop
 would you use tesco or any other supermarket if it came to Marple .
Yes
Yes !   I am not against any supermarket but not on Hibbert Lane where most of our elderly residents live in the bungalows and across the road in flats

That's quite a good point, having a shop too close will mean the elderly don't get enough exercise

I understand the need for debate, but that david was uncalled for.


It's Duke Fame, Marjorie.

I'm really saying that the argument that we're doing this for the elderly isn't going to wash. Having a shop closer for the elderly could be a feather in the cap for any supermaket coming into the site.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Miss Marple on August 03, 2011, 11:02:34 PM
Your ageist remarks are not welcome and for your information, most of the elderly around that college site were born bred and worked in our mill industry I KNOW !  I understand that you are to new to the area and possibly do  not understand that we are a strong close nit community going back many generations and that we all really know one another,  one way or another   Most people would aspire to retire in the country after a life time of working so why oh why would you think that our elderly locals deserve to live in such close proximity to a huge commercial operation  MARPLE people have always welcomed new people into our community but there is  always is an exception
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Duke Fame on August 03, 2011, 11:28:09 PM
Your ageist remarks are not welcome and for your information, most of the elderly around that college site were born bred and worked in our mill industry I KNOW !  I understand that you are to new to the area and possibly do  not understand that we are a strong close nit community going back many generations and that we all really know one another,  one way or another   Most people would aspire to retire in the country after a life time of working so why oh why would you think that our elderly locals deserve to live in such close proximity to a huge commercial operation  MARPLE people have always welcomed new people into our community but there is  always is an exception

It's not agist at all, we all get old at some point, I have a father who is older than me so I know. I was simply making the point that a supermarket onHibbert lane could actually be a benefit to the elderly on Hibbert Lane rather than a hindrance. As eyesores go, a store is not going to be as intrusive as say the mills once were.

I also think it's irrelevant that I'm not local, I'm local now.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Miss Marple on August 03, 2011, 11:31:21 PM
Your ageist remarks are not welcome and for your information, most of the elderly around that college site were born bred and worked in our mill industry I KNOW !  I understand that you are to new to the area and possibly do  not understand that we are a strong close nit community going back many generations and that we all really know one another,  one way or another   Most people would aspire to retire in the country after a life time of working so why oh why would you think that our elderly locals deserve to live in such close proximity to a huge commercial operation  MARPLE people have always welcomed new people into our community but there is  always is an exception
It's not agist at all, we all get old at some point, I have a father who is older than me so I know. I was
simply making the point that a supermarket on Hibbert  lane could actually be a benefit to the elderly

Hibbert Lane rather than a hindrance. As eyesores go, a store is not going to be as intrusive as say the mills

once were  also think it's irrelevant that I'm not local, I'm local now
  ???
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Smithy166 on August 04, 2011, 02:51:23 PM
Your ageist remarks are not welcome and for your information, most of the elderly around that college site were born bred and worked in our mill industry I KNOW !  I understand that you are to new to the area and possibly do  not understand that we are a strong close nit community going back many generations and that we all really know one another,  one way or another   Most people would aspire to retire in the country after a life time of working so why oh why would you think that our elderly locals deserve to live in such close proximity to a huge commercial operation  MARPLE people have always welcomed new people into our community but there is  always is an exception
It's not agist at all, we all get old at some point, I have a father who is older than me so I know. I was
simply making the point that a supermarket on Hibbert  lane could actually be a benefit to the elderly

Hibbert Lane rather than a hindrance. As eyesores go, a store is not going to be as intrusive as say the mills

once were  also think it's irrelevant that I'm not local, I'm local now
  ???

Just out of question, have you ever seen "elderly" people shopping? They don't just go to the nearest place because they "don't have to walk as far" they go to make a day of it, they go because they can talk to people, stop at a nice shop for a coffee and a chat with friends.
Also, just for the record, my names dan, Marjorie.
Yes when the mills were built they were an eyesore, but now they are accepted, and they give this village something that many places don't have.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Duke Fame on August 04, 2011, 03:01:34 PM
Your ageist remarks are not welcome and for your information, most of the elderly around that college site were born bred and worked in our mill industry I KNOW !  I understand that you are to new to the area and possibly do  not understand that we are a strong close nit community going back many generations and that we all really know one another,  one way or another   Most people would aspire to retire in the country after a life time of working so why oh why would you think that our elderly locals deserve to live in such close proximity to a huge commercial operation  MARPLE people have always welcomed new people into our community but there is  always is an exception
It's not agist at all, we all get old at some point, I have a father who is older than me so I know. I was
simply making the point that a supermarket on Hibbert  lane could actually be a benefit to the elderly

Hibbert Lane rather than a hindrance. As eyesores go, a store is not going to be as intrusive as say the mills

once were  also think it's irrelevant that I'm not local, I'm local now
  ???

Just out of question, have you ever seen "elderly" people shopping? They don't just go to the nearest place because they "don't have to walk as far" they go to make a day of it, they go because they can talk to people, stop at a nice shop for a coffee and a chat with friends.
Also, just for the record, my names dan, Marjorie.
Yes when the mills were built they were an eyesore, but now they are accepted, and they give this village something that many places don't have.

So much so that they knocked it down , Marge.

I'm simply makeingg the point that the lederly card isn't going to work as any supermarket will spin the supermarket as a benefit not a hinderence.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Smithy166 on August 04, 2011, 04:11:56 PM
Your ageist remarks are not welcome and for your information, most of the elderly around that college site were born bred and worked in our mill industry I KNOW !  I understand that you are to new to the area and possibly do  not understand that we are a strong close nit community going back many generations and that we all really know one another,  one way or another   Most people would aspire to retire in the country after a life time of working so why oh why would you think that our elderly locals deserve to live in such close proximity to a huge commercial operation  MARPLE people have always welcomed new people into our community but there is  always is an exception
It's not agist at all, we all get old at some point, I have a father who is older than me so I know. I was
simply making the point that a supermarket on Hibbert  lane could actually be a benefit to the elderly

Hibbert Lane rather than a hindrance. As eyesores go, a store is not going to be as intrusive as say the mills

once were  also think it's irrelevant that I'm not local, I'm local now
  ???

Just out of question, have you ever seen "elderly" people shopping? They don't just go to the nearest place because they "don't have to walk as far" they go to make a day of it, they go because they can talk to people, stop at a nice shop for a coffee and a chat with friends.
Also, just for the record, my names dan, Marjorie.
Yes when the mills were built they were an eyesore, but now they are accepted, and they give this village something that many places don't have.

So much so that they knocked it down , Marge.

I'm simply makeingg the point that the lederly card isn't going to work as any supermarket will spin the supermarket as a benefit not a hinderence.

Ever heard of the goyt mill? giant red thing in hawk green, can't miss it.
and how do you know that the supermarket is going to spin things around? As far as i'm concerned were going to need every trick in the book if were going to win this thing, and were going to need to put every "card" into play. otherwise were going to get shot down like most other places that have opposed supermarkets being built!
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Lisa Oldham on August 04, 2011, 08:24:43 PM
Its mad that anyone take Duke Fames obviously badly chosen but clearly sarky remark as offensive and ageist!  A lot of wasted energy has gone into it and his point has once again been lost.. His point is clear and i agree with it and it shouldn't be ignored.  The truth is we have to deal with factual not emotional information to stop any supermarket.  If they get the damn thing built it will be used(including by the elderly) it will be a success and it will make profit... ie they are not scared of us yet!

We have to have a well reasoned argument based totally and utterly on planning legislation to beat them if it gets to planning stage.  I personally believe it can be done however if we bring in the poor little elderly (of which many in Marple cant half still pack a punch intellectually if not physically!)  or the poor little children or any other poor little thing... then those arguments just wont wash.

We should stop jumping on each others antagonistic remarks and differences of opinions.. if we are on the same side - which i "think" duke is - then he just may well add a different but useful viewpoint to the central groups. we do need to cover ALL angles to win..
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Belly on August 04, 2011, 08:56:32 PM
Its mad that anyone take Duke Fames obviously badly chosen but clearly sarky remark as offensive and ageist!  A lot of wasted energy has gone into it and his point has once again been lost.. His point is clear and i agree with it and it shouldn't be ignored.  The truth is we have to deal with factual not emotional information to stop any supermarket.  If they get the damn thing built it will be used(including by the elderly) it will be a success and it will make profit... ie they are not scared of us yet!

We have to have a well reasoned argument based totally and utterly on planning legislation to beat them if it gets to planning stage.  I personally believe it can be done however if we bring in the poor little elderly (of which many in Marple cant half still pack a punch intellectually if not physically!)  or the poor little children or any other poor little thing... then those arguments just wont wash.


Well said Lisa.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: amazon on August 04, 2011, 09:24:02 PM
Its mad that anyone take Duke Fames obviously badly chosen but clearly sarky remark as offensive and ageist!  A lot of wasted energy has gone into it and his point has once again been lost.. His point is clear and i agree with it and it shouldn't be ignored.  The truth is we have to deal with factual not emotional information to stop any supermarket.  If they get the damn thing built it will be used(including by the elderly) it will be a success and it will make profit... ie they are not scared of us yet!

We have to have a well reasoned argument based totally and utterly on planning legislation to beat them if it gets to planning stage.  I personally believe it can be done however if we bring in the poor little elderly (of which many in Marple cant half still pack a punch intellectually if not physically!)  or the poor little children or any other poor little thing... then those arguments just wont wash.

We should stop jumping on each others antagonistic remarks and differences of opinions.. if we are on the same side - which i "think" duke is - then he just may well add a different but useful viewpoint to the central groups. we do need to cover ALL angles to win..
There are a lot of people would like and alternative to the coop and not have to go to bredbury or hazel grove ,your asuming that if its  ever built do you mean to tell me no one from marple will go . just to save some shops i dont think so .
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Duke Fame on August 04, 2011, 10:01:14 PM
Its mad that anyone take Duke Fames obviously badly chosen but clearly sarky remark as offensive and ageist!  A lot of wasted energy has gone into it and his point has once again been lost.. His point is clear and i agree with it and it shouldn't be ignored.  The truth is we have to deal with factual not emotional information to stop any supermarket.  If they get the damn thing built it will be used(including by the elderly) it will be a success and it will make profit... ie they are not scared of us yet!

We have to have a well reasoned argument based totally and utterly on planning legislation to beat them if it gets to planning stage.  I personally believe it can be done however if we bring in the poor little elderly (of which many in Marple cant half still pack a punch intellectually if not physically!)  or the poor little children or any other poor little thing... then those arguments just wont wash.

We should stop jumping on each others antagonistic remarks and differences of opinions.. if we are on the same side - which i "think" duke is - then he just may well add a different but useful viewpoint to the central groups. we do need to cover ALL angles to win..

Exactly the point, the fight will not be won on a trip down memory lane.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Smithy166 on August 04, 2011, 10:05:43 PM
Its mad that anyone take Duke Fames obviously badly chosen but clearly sarky remark as offensive and ageist!  A lot of wasted energy has gone into it and his point has once again been lost.. His point is clear and i agree with it and it shouldn't be ignored.  The truth is we have to deal with factual not emotional information to stop any supermarket.  If they get the damn thing built it will be used(including by the elderly) it will be a success and it will make profit... ie they are not scared of us yet!

We have to have a well reasoned argument based totally and utterly on planning legislation to beat them if it gets to planning stage.  I personally believe it can be done however if we bring in the poor little elderly (of which many in Marple cant half still pack a punch intellectually if not physically!)  or the poor little children or any other poor little thing... then those arguments just wont wash.

We should stop jumping on each others antagonistic remarks and differences of opinions.. if we are on the same side - which i "think" duke is - then he just may well add a different but useful viewpoint to the central groups. we do need to cover ALL angles to win..
Well said.
This "war" can't be won by crying your eyes out like most other campagins have. We need to get our rears in gear, get organised and go at this not as individuals, but as a well oiled, well briefed, well disciplined, well equipped team. otherwise were going to come away from the battle with our collective tail between our legs.
Apologises duke. :)
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Lisa Oldham on August 04, 2011, 10:35:54 PM
Actually Amazon.. what I'm saying is MOST will use it... I'm weak willed and incredibly lazy so I'll include myself in that too, maybe.. possibly... lets be honest its very likely most of us will... if it gets built.   My point was that tesco or whichever chain wants to buy it knows that too..
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Miss Marple on August 04, 2011, 10:48:38 PM
Age Concern , now Age UK are interested now re the vulnerability of the elderly around the area.  Which is great news ! The more the better I say !  Stockport as well as having responsibility re planning have a legal requirement in their duty of care for vulnerable adults and children in this case    So I'll  be alright then  ;D
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Lisa Oldham on August 04, 2011, 11:09:58 PM
duty of care re planning i would say means safety.. primarily road safety... making sure theres places to cross, enough space for cars, road wide enough etc etc.. all of which any planning app will cover. You can argue that there is a duty of care to feel safe in ones home.. something we used alot, however not being happy a supermarket is close to your home I doubt would fall into that category!

There is a moral duty of care of course.. however the legal system which ultimately any planning app will face via planning inspectorate  and maybe even judicial review doesnt give 2 hoots about morality.

It does however make very good media headlines  :) 
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Miss Marple on August 04, 2011, 11:31:39 PM
duty of care re planning i would say means safety.. primarily road safety... making sure theres places to cross, enough space for cars, road wide enough etc etc.. all of which any planning app will cover. You can argue that there is a duty of care to feel safe in ones home.. something we used alot, however not being happy a supermarket is close to your home I doubt would fall into that category!

There is a moral duty of care of course.. however the legal system which ultimately any planning app will face via planning inspectorate  and maybe even judicial review doesnt give 2 hoots about morality.

It does however make very good media headlines  :) 
Now  were cooking !  My point exactly !   But believe me there is a duty to care in law, for once in my life I do know what I am talking about, I do it every working day   :o
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Lisa Oldham on August 04, 2011, 11:44:42 PM
tell me now how it affects a planning decision beyond safety?
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Miss Marple on August 04, 2011, 11:56:43 PM
tell me now how it affects a planning decision beyond safety?


It doesn't but it works alongside !  I am very limited to say too much on the site because people such as Ms Cassidy and Mr Hubert follow the threads ( Mr Hubert told me that  at our meeting ) I also know that our elected members , the press and other interested parties follow with interest.     Good night Ms Cassidy  :-*
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Lisa Oldham on August 05, 2011, 12:28:07 AM
Well we will have to agree to disagree on this one as i do not believe you are right at all

Ive dealt with many councils including stockport and supported lots of communities opposing planning legislation in the not so distant past so have a little knowledge in this area myself.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: JMC on August 05, 2011, 09:57:37 AM
I have been speaking to a few more people in Marple and surprised that quite a few people are in favour of the supermarket. Some of the comments; one person said that it is Ok people objecting, they often have cars and internet access so they can make the choice to go somewhere cheaper, some people cannot and so have little choice but to use more expensive shops in the immeidiate area. Another one said she uses Tesco anyway so it won't make a difference. So it seems not everyone is against it, I would say of the people i have asked about 2/3 are against and 1/3 for it. I feel to get anywhere these kind of comments need addressing. If saving money is your primary objective and a cheaper shop is on the cards, what reason is there to convince them of it not being a good idea? Perhaps instead there should be more focus on traffic and things like that. When i mentioned traffic to someone in favour, she did seem to think again.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Lisa Oldham on August 05, 2011, 10:03:07 AM
i've met a lot that are for it... but there is only ONE reason they are for it and in my opinion  its not a good reason to build a potentially huge supermarket in the middle of a housing estate and suffer the consequences of even more traffic congestion.

The one and only reason being.. coop have a stranglehold on marple and they want to see it end and prices come down to reasonable levels. So we need to coop to act.  Is everyone writing to the coop?
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: moonforest on August 05, 2011, 10:05:55 AM
I have been speaking to a few more people in Marple and surprised that quite a few people are in favour of the supermarket. Some of the comments; one person said that it is Ok people objecting, they often have cars and internet access so they can make the choice to go somewhere cheaper, some people cannot and so have little choice but to use more expensive shops in the immeidiate area. Another one said she uses Tesco anyway so it won't make a difference. So it seems not everyone is against it, I would say of the people i have asked about 2/3 are against and 1/3 for it. I feel to get anywhere these kind of comments need addressing. If saving money is your primary objective and a cheaper shop is on the cards, what reason is there to convince them of it not being a good idea? Perhaps instead there should be more focus on traffic and things like that. When i mentioned traffic to someone in favour, she did seem to think again.

Same here. I was talking to someone who initially thought it was a good idea but when they thought about the impact on traffic they changed their minds and became firmly against it.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: amazon on August 05, 2011, 07:09:05 PM
Age Concern , now Age UK are interested now re the vulnerability of the elderly around the area.  Which is great news ! The more the better I say !  Stockport as well as having responsibility re planning have a legal requirement in their duty of care for vulnerable adults and children in this case    So I'll  be alright then  ;D

          Great. CREASTED NEWTS WERE SEEN CROSING THE ROAD TOWARDS THE RIDGE LAST NIGHT.
              in a tesco trolly .
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Lisa Oldham on August 05, 2011, 11:06:21 PM
Theres a request on the FB page for info on the website notice that the college were supposed to have put online the other day... ive had a look and cant find it can someone point me in the right direction please?  did anyone see it?
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: admin on August 06, 2011, 06:16:22 AM
Here:

http://www.camsfc.ac.uk/assets/file/Govenors/STATEMENT%20ISSUED%20BY%20LAWRENCE%20GRANT.pdf

Or:

http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=3554.msg16531#msg16531
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: glover on August 06, 2011, 11:50:23 AM
I have to say that for someone who works full time and has a family, the existing Co Op does not 'help itself' in defending its standing as the main supermarket in Marple. I do not want Tesco in Marple, as I feel it would spoil a lovely village which has a well earned reputation for providing a more 'personal' shopping experience. My mother lives in a large town and when she visits she loves walking through the Derby Way and enjoying shops that she will not find near her.  She will buy from Littlewoods because of the customer care and the quality of products that the shop provides.  Unfortunately my experience of shopping at the Co op is tinged with frustration, lack of stock (especially Sundays) and a lack of customer care training cause frustration. I desperately want to support the Co Op, but the 'shopping experience' in the larger stores is just so much better.  This is not a reflection of the staff working there, but must reflect the difference in management/ training/ recruitment and the training opportunities for existing staff.  My point is that I think a lot more people would object to a large supermarket if the Co Op was serving the residents satisfactorily.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: cozg on August 07, 2011, 01:30:20 PM
I work full time and have very little time to shop. Like a lot of people i find the co-op has little selection and is expensive. I try to do a monthly on line shop at asda and go to the coop inbetween as I don't have time to spend half a day at the weekend going to a big supermarket somewhere else. So ironically for me - a big supermarket in Marple would be fantastic. Having said that I still oppose the idea as I think it would be the death knell for many of our small shops and therefore for the life blood of our village centre....
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: equinox on August 15, 2011, 09:59:15 AM
I would use a supermarket in Marple. I like many find it so difficult having to get the unreliable bus service in to Stockport to do my weekly or even monthly shop. I don't understand why people feel it would cause such a problem! If you take a look up and down Marple high street recently you will notice the majority of shops are takeaways and hairdresser's - these are not exactly going to be affected by a supermarket! The only shop that would suffer is the co-op which most people agree they do not do their main shop there as it is so expensive. People need to stop and look at the bigger picture and the benefits a supermarket would bring to out little village - it would save people money by not needing to take the car to Stockport with the ever increasing petrol costs or having to (like me) struggle with many bags on the buses. It would create much needed jobs in and Marple and the surrounding aeries in a time of economic down turn. People living on Hibbert Lane are worried it would effect the value of their homes....surely not as much as a college with a youth centre outside where drunken fights are known to break out! If you take a look at Edgeley and Cheadle Heath they are still thriving, popular towns and Morrison's, Aldi, and the build of the new Tesco's in Cheadle heath has not effected them in the slightest. I sometimes feel people are too quick to complain without thinking of the long term out come and benefits, look at the situation with Dan Bank there was a mass of complaints about the work due to the trees being cut down, however the fact of the matter is if the work wasn't done the road would have collapsed due to subsidence! I hope people can see it as I do a see the benefits a supermarket can bring to everyone who lives here and I really hope it goes ahead.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Freddy on August 15, 2011, 11:02:47 AM
I would use Tesco/Asda at Hibbert lane or as previously suggested a Tesco Express or M&SFoods in the old Hanburys.This building is so unsightly and spoils The Hollins.
When we are all tightening our belts due to the economic climate why would you want to pay more for your essentials and the bigger supermarkets offer more choice and better value.
Tesco are usually willing to give something back to the community,maybe a new swimming pool and leisure centre could be suggested.
Also you get 3 hours free parking with Tesco which would encourage people to wander into Marple centre for a browse,coffee or lunch.
We just need to make Market st.and Derby Way more inviting.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: hollins on August 15, 2011, 11:40:23 AM
Yes, I would use ASDA/Tesco if it came to Marple and was built on Hibbert Lane.

I would also continue to use the "small shops" for non-food items just as much as before.

Yes, money talks, and if it is used to improve things then I don't see a problem. If we get a decent, up-to-date set of 6th-form college buildings within walking distance of young people in Marple that would be excellent. If we get a bright new swimming pool I think that would be good. If it means that there isn't such a stream of Marpudlians(?) driving several extra miles to a decent supermarket in Bredbury or Hazel Grove that would be good for the environment.

Best scenario (my opinion, anyway):
- ASDA come to Hibbert Lane and are forced to rebuild the swimming pool and fund the maintenance of Marple's parks as "compensation";
- The Co-op leaves the centre of Marple in a huff because they can't compete;
- Sainsbury's takes over the Co-op's buildings in the centre of Marple.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Smithy166 on August 15, 2011, 02:41:47 PM
... If it means that there isn't such a stream of Marpudlians(?) driving several extra miles to a decent supermarket in Bredbury or Hazel Grove that would be good for the environment...

I must argue against that, Granted, there would be less people from marple producing greenhouse gasses, however, any reduction in emissions would be quickly balanced out by the building of the store, along with the stream of cars now coming into marple, not out of it. It might actually result in a rise in emissions! (not to mentions the noise and light pollution increase)
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: alstan on August 15, 2011, 02:57:44 PM
The posts from equinox, freddy, and hollins have got it right. The threat to existing shops in Marple is grossly overstated. They have been competing with supermarkets for the last 20 years and have survived. They rely on a large band of dedicated supporters, the great majority of whom must already do the bulk of their shopping in supermarkets but prefer to use local shops for specific items for a number of reasons, loyalty, quality, personal service to name a few. Those people will not change to a supermarket even if it is on their doorstep.
I was in Towcester last week, a market town with a smaller population than Marple. They have a Coop supermarket and a Waitrose within yards of the main street, each with its free car park.There is a Tesco superstore, about 3600 sq m (significantly less than half the size of a football pitch for those who prefer a descriptive measurement!) and a Homebase about 400 yards away.
It also has a thriving shopping street possibly due to the fact that local people are not forced to drive elsewhere for their basic shopping
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: equinox on August 15, 2011, 05:51:20 PM
I totally agree with alstan, I would love the supermarket to go ahead and would still get my fruit and veg from the local shops and use the bakery's, etc and so would all the people complaining about it, so the shops would still thrive. If the issue isn't with the store itsself and just with the location why not mention at meeting etc the idea of building somewhere like Cross Lane at the Piecefield School site? I personally don't see there being a problem with Hibbert Lane but some people clearly do and the Piecefield site just has the coach depo and car garage facing it, it could make a prime location. 
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Dave on August 15, 2011, 06:28:47 PM
I would use it, and so would most of us, including many of those who are making the most noise in opposing the idea! What concerns me is that the fuss and commotion created by these vociferous opponents, who now appear to have bullied our councillors into acquiescence, could create the impression that they represent a majority view. I don't believe they do.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Tricky on August 15, 2011, 06:38:15 PM
I don't believe they do.

Agree
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Miss Marple on August 15, 2011, 06:49:34 PM
I would use it, and so would most of us, including many of those who are making the most noise in opposing the idea! What concerns me is that the fuss and commotion created by these vociferous opponents, who now appear to have bullied our councillors into acquiescence, could create the impression that they represent a majority view. I don't believe they do.

That is not right ! We have made it very clear to all that would listen that this is not political.  The councillors have done this without consulting MIA they have started their own campaign 3 months  I might add behind MIA.  
FROM IT'S BEGININGS WE  HAVE ALWAYS MAINTAINED THAT MARPLE IN ACTION WAS AND STILL IS THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE AND NOT A POLITICAL PLATFORM AND THAT IS HOW IT WILL CONTINUE

Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: sgk on August 15, 2011, 07:32:19 PM
People living on Hibbert Lane are worried it would effect the value of their homes....surely not as much as a college with a youth centre outside where drunken fights are known to break out!

Disagree with most of your points, but this one's just plumb wrong.

Supermarkets tend to be a crime hotspot.  Don't take my word for it, see the police force's own stats, links below.

Tesco, Portwood, Stockport (http://www.police.uk/crime/?q=Stockport%20SK1%202BT,%20UK#crimetypes) : 13 crimes during June alone.

Tesco, Stalybridge (http://www.police.uk/crime/?q=Stalybridge,%20Tameside%20SK15%202BJ,%20UK#crimetypes) : 16 crimes during June alone.

CAMSFC Hibbert Lane, Marple (http://www.police.uk/crime/?q=Marple,%20Stockport%20SK6%207PA,%20UK#crimetypes) : 0 crimes during June, May, April, March.  7 in February.



Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Lisa Oldham on August 16, 2011, 02:21:15 AM
I don't believe they do.

disagree

I disagree because I've talked to an awful lot of people about it.. I'd say 100s in fact since this started.. and thats as someone who is  NOT involved in anyway with MIA apart from pushing the FB page every couple of days and i havent attended any meetings or stood in marple precinct...

Whats your belief based on please? 

bullying Marple councillors????  LM*O !!!
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Dave on August 16, 2011, 08:21:42 AM
Lisa, my belief, like yours, is based on talking to friends and acquaintances in the area. Re the bullying of the councillors, maybe that was too strong a word, but if you were at the meeting in the park last month you would have witnessed quite and intimidating atmosphere.
I think sgk's comparative crime statistics are interesting, but they may tell us more about Portwood and 'Staly Vegas' than they do about Tesco ;-)
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Lisa Oldham on August 16, 2011, 10:01:37 AM
Having been at the other end of that, with councillors attempting to intimidate me on several occasions ..and in fact at one point two notable very tall male marple councillors ( I'm only 5 7!) .. one still in office who was at the park... shouting and screaming at me in a council chamber.. I think they can deal with a little bit of gentle intimidation from a crowd of Marple folk.  No I wasn't at the meeting but I've seen the you tube and I'm sorry they were VERY well behaved!!
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Smithy166 on August 16, 2011, 02:43:30 PM
Having been at the other end of that, with councillors attempting to intimidate me on several occasions ..and in fact at one point two notable very tall male marple councillors ( I'm only 5 7!) .. one still in office who was at the park... shouting and screaming at me in a council chamber.. I think they can deal with a little bit of gentle intimidation from a crowd of Marple folk.  No I wasn't at the meeting but I've seen the you tube and I'm sorry they were VERY well behaved!!

I aggree, The people who attended the meeting at the park set a very good example, after all, they could have turned it into a giant shouting match, with everyone screaming at each other, insted, they each waited there turn to put there question forward.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Maria on August 16, 2011, 04:42:03 PM
I disagree that a supermarket on Hibbert lane is the best place-I do not object to another supermarket in the main shopping area but I do on Hibbert lane.  My reason amongst others is that I live on Hibbert lane and do not wish to live facing a monstrosity of a supermarket-I am sure none of you would either.  Furthermore the increased traffic it would create is a concern for both my family and myself.  The college is not a crime hotspot for teenagers fighting-in over 5 years I have only known of one or two disturbances at the youth centre-yes the college alarm goes off every now and then but it is hardly a major issue.

The Co-op does need competition but not at the expense of the local residents, traders and others.  Lets be realistic this will not be a store the size of the Co-op.  On the Hibbert lane site you can fit at least 4 Co-op stores so it could resemble something the size of the Portwood site.  Scary proposition if you ask me.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Dave on August 16, 2011, 04:55:36 PM
Were you at the meeting in the park, Smithy?
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Prucilla on August 16, 2011, 06:52:42 PM
Tesco - yes
Asda - yes

We currently buy all our meat, bread etc from Marple shops and do ourbigshop at Tesco either on-line or at Whalley Bridge. Our shopping habits wouldn't change we would just do our big shop at whichever supermarket that waste open on Hibbert Lane.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Harry on August 16, 2011, 07:53:57 PM
Tesco - yes
Asda - yes

We currently buy all our meat, bread etc from Marple shops and do ourbigshop at Tesco either on-line or at Whalley Bridge. Our shopping habits wouldn't change we would just do our big shop at whichever supermarket that waste open on Hibbert Lane.


... and thereby reduce the amount of traffic going out from and returning to Marple. Just like thousands of others.

Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Smithy166 on August 16, 2011, 10:10:32 PM
Were you at the meeting in the park, Smithy?
Unfortunatly I had prior arangements, however, I did send a Friend there to act as a Rep, and a few family friends were also in attendance.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Dave on August 16, 2011, 11:32:05 PM
I'm more than happy to have my assessment of the attitude towards our councillors at the meeting in the park questioned by others who were there, but certainly not by those who only saw clips on youtube! The atmosphere towards the councillors at thet meeting was quite intimidatory, but you wouldn't know that unless you were there. 
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: bluebelly on August 17, 2011, 07:38:10 AM
i dont want any supermarket on the hibbert lane site but being honest , if there was one there i would shop at it...
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Moonbeam on August 23, 2011, 07:20:54 PM
I would definitely shop at any supermarket that was to open on Hibbert Lane. I buy what I can at Iceland (because I like the staff in there and the prices are good) and that won't change. I object to paying over the odds for food as close to it's sell by date as they can get away with, so I don't shop at Co-op (plus I like the staff to at least acknowledge me when I shop, not continue their conversation with their colleagues!) Therefore at the moment I buy essentials at Iceland and drive at least 4/5 miles to Morrisons or Asda. Plus, what a Godsend it would be to have a new Swimming baths/leisure centre!!! Marple baths is shocking!! :o Let's hope they have a petrol station too!!
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: sooty2 on August 23, 2011, 07:44:41 PM
Swimming pool/leisure centre?Who is paying for that then?it is just rumour.The possibilityof a major supermarket is not a rumour,(sadly) I cannot understand why people would want a major supermarket instead of a nice town centre containing lots of different shops?
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Duke Fame on August 23, 2011, 11:47:58 PM
I would definitely shop at any supermarket that was to open on Hibbert Lane. I buy what I can at Iceland (because I like the staff in there and the prices are good) and that won't change. I object to paying over the odds for food as close to it's sell by date as they can get away with, so I don't shop at Co-op (plus I like the staff to at least acknowledge me when I shop, not continue their conversation with their colleagues!) Therefore at the moment I buy essentials at Iceland and drive at least 4/5 miles to Morrisons or Asda. Plus, what a Godsend it would be to have a new Swimming baths/leisure centre!!! Marple baths is shocking!! :o Let's hope they have a petrol station too!!

Will they have those vibro plates at the new leisure centre & what days are the spinning classes on?
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: mum_of_2 on August 29, 2011, 03:37:25 PM
I would definitely shop at any supermarket that was to open on Hibbert Lane. I buy what I can at Iceland (because I like the staff in there and the prices are good) and that won't change. I object to paying over the odds for food as close to it's sell by date as they can get away with, so I don't shop at Co-op (plus I like the staff to at least acknowledge me when I shop, not continue their conversation with their colleagues!) Therefore at the moment I buy essentials at Iceland and drive at least 4/5 miles to Morrisons or Asda. Plus, what a Godsend it would be to have a new Swimming baths/leisure centre!!! Marple baths is shocking!! :o Let's hope they have a petrol station too!!
i Totally agree, i do not drive so unfortunatly i have to burden friends and family and ask them to take me shopping....that or regretably shop in the over-priced, stuck up co-op.
We regulary shop in iceland, the butchers, wilsons and many more due to the fact its either cheap or better value....i dont think a tesco or asda will change where i shop as i have shopped there for years.....i just cannot wait to see all the people who are saying no, do a weekly shop in a supermarket they didnot want on that particuar site. If the supermarket des win the bid but does not get planning permission then all this uld be forhing. So i have decided that ill not sign any petition, i iend to have a yes poster in my windoand i will leave it as thatas i cant be bothered wasting my time energy and money on something which mmight end up being worthless
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Marplenewbie on August 29, 2011, 04:48:24 PM
Anyone thinking they spend less in a large supermarket might do well to do some reading up on supermarket psychology. In fact it is probably cheaper to shop in small local shops where you buy the items you set out to shop for, whereas in a supermarket you are manipulated from the moment you enter into spending far more than you originally intended!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/3634141/They-have-ways-of-making-you-spend.html
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: mum_of_2 on August 29, 2011, 08:11:12 PM
Anyone thinking they spend less in a large supermarket might do well to do some reading up on supermarket psychology. In fact it is probably cheaper to shop in small local shops where you buy the items you set out to shop for, whereas in a supermarket you are manipulated from the moment you enter into spending far more than you originally intended!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/3634141/They-have-ways-of-making-you-spend.html

Have you ever been into iceland for say milk or bread and come out with a couple of bags? Marples iceland is small. I can go into the co-op and spend way over the odds for a few measly items. Larger shops may have their phycology....but at least you get more for your money.....
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Sareena on August 29, 2011, 09:09:59 PM
I would shop at a new supermarket, I would be happy living across from it. I could even get a job there :) It would be nice to be able to afford a actual weekly shopping trip which is something i have not been able to afford for awhile.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: Duke Fame on August 29, 2011, 11:24:06 PM
Anyone thinking they spend less in a large supermarket might do well to do some reading up on supermarket psychology. In fact it is probably cheaper to shop in small local shops where you buy the items you set out to shop for, whereas in a supermarket you are manipulated from the moment you enter into spending far more than you originally intended!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/3634141/They-have-ways-of-making-you-spend.html

Of course that is true, the other point is that it is better to buy what you need for that day every day. You would not choose some food from the shelves that has been out for a week yet it seems everyone does a weekly shop.
Title: Re: would you use Tesco / ASDA or any other supermarket if it came to marple .
Post by: My login is Henrietta on August 30, 2011, 09:55:35 AM
No, I would not as a matter of principle. Hibbert Lane is a residential, not a commercial area. Why should the community suffer because the college has been unable to do its sums and manage its finances for years.