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Title: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Osdog on February 13, 2011, 01:31:40 PM
What's happening to the Norfolk Arms in Marple Bridge...  it's boarded up like there's going to be a third world war....?   does anyone know?
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on February 13, 2011, 02:12:05 PM
This has been reported to Marple civic society and they have passed it  to Stockport conservation dept
       there are quite a few people complained about this mess will let you know when i hear something .
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on February 13, 2011, 02:23:55 PM
This has been reported to Marple civic society and they have passed it  to Stockport conservation dept
       there are quite a few people complained about this mess will let you know when i hear something .
            Paul Hartley from smbc is the conservation officer he is looking into this .
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: sooty2 on February 13, 2011, 02:31:26 PM
Paint the metal sheeting black,then paint in some frames, Good practice space for an artist?
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: My login is Henrietta on February 13, 2011, 06:47:06 PM
What's happening to the Norfolk Arms in Marple Bridge...  it's boarded up like there's going to be a third world war....?   does anyone know?
Sadly, if property of this type is left uninhabited it has to be secured against vandals.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on February 13, 2011, 08:39:41 PM
agree but not with what has been used .
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: myloweb on February 13, 2011, 09:40:56 PM
I have heard it's going to be turned into some sort of club?
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: sgk on February 13, 2011, 10:52:37 PM
I have heard it's going to be turned into some sort of club?

No such planning applications have been made for the property yet. (postcode SK6 5DS)

http://planning.stockport.gov.uk/PlanningData/AcolNetCGI.gov (http://planning.stockport.gov.uk/PlanningData/AcolNetCGI.gov)
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on February 14, 2011, 01:13:22 PM
I have heard it's going to be turned into some sort of club?

  Info from please .....
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Neil Smith on February 14, 2011, 04:46:23 PM
I heard that the owners in this article are expanding into new premises http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1406955_backlash_neighbours_in_uproar_as_stockport_pub_turns_into_bondage_club
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: belleesummerbee on February 14, 2011, 05:48:13 PM
The demise and derelict appearance of the Norfolk Arms certainly detracts from the Conservation Area. The excellent renovation of the old Sally Brown studio next door certainly show what can be done.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on February 14, 2011, 09:43:10 PM
I heard that the owners in this article are expanding into new premises http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1406955_backlash_neighbours_in_uproar_as_stockport_pub_turns_into_bondage_club
If So Neil you wont have as far to go  ;D
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: bluebelly on February 15, 2011, 08:11:35 AM
i just hope it dosnt become another housing development
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Osdog on February 15, 2011, 12:01:49 PM
Notice in the latest political leaflet says that the metal shutters have to be removed by March 1st - so lets see what happens.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Dave on February 15, 2011, 01:48:51 PM
Now Marple Bridge Stores is no more, we badly need a convenience store.  Tesco Metro, anyone?   ;D
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on February 15, 2011, 02:27:55 PM
Notice in the latest political leaflet says that the metal shutters have to be removed by March 1st - so lets see what happens.

             Thanks for that which political leaflet .....
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on February 15, 2011, 02:34:49 PM
yes but where do you open one. parkings poor empty marple bridge stores very small .
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: admin on February 15, 2011, 07:47:27 PM
Our intrepid photographer has been down to Marple Bridge and taken a picture so everyone can see what this thread is all about, and it's now on the Virtual Tour: http://visitmarple.co.uk/photos/displayimage.php?pid=5448

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Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on February 15, 2011, 09:01:49 PM
Brilliant . .Aurthur could you take some of the late Sally Browns Art shop next door up its being converted ,and its looking superb spending a lot of money on it .   
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: moorendman on February 15, 2011, 10:49:47 PM
The owners , Punch Taverns were saying on their web site shortly before it was boarded up that the pub was available and a refurbishment was planned.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Dave on February 16, 2011, 10:21:26 AM
I remember a couple of years ago, after one of the Norfolk's frequent changes of landlord, there was a banner hanging outside saying not only 'New Management' (which is normal), but also 'New Clientele', which I found quite amusing   ;D  It turned out to be wishful thinking, of course.....
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: daniel2034 on February 16, 2011, 01:33:41 PM
Don't want to startle but it seems that it will be rebranded as 'The Bridge Tavern' ??
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: moorendman on February 16, 2011, 01:54:29 PM
Yes , That seems to be waht it says on the "story board" from the designers:

http://www.punchpubs.co.uk/Punch/Punch+Pubs/Apply+and+find+a+pub/Refurbishment+planned/
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Barbara on February 16, 2011, 08:17:16 PM
Yeah - and how many of us will use the new name?  Old habits and all that!   :D
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on February 16, 2011, 09:03:38 PM
Have a feeling that this wont happen for a while its a full board up mess doors windows etc

                 
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Osdog on February 17, 2011, 10:04:52 AM

             Thanks for that which political leaflet .....


I think it was the Conservative one !  Can't really remember, I just remember reading it.... sorry
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: moorendman on March 02, 2011, 03:48:58 PM
Latest News - as of yesterday, the Freehold of the Norfolk is up for sale, through a national property company. They are inviting offers of around £350,000 for the freehold. It is no longer on the Punch website.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Duke Fame on March 02, 2011, 10:12:41 PM
Now Marple Bridge Stores is no more, we badly need a convenience store.  Tesco Metro, anyone?   ;D

Raja Bros?
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Duke Fame on March 02, 2011, 10:17:41 PM
Sadly with the Smoking ban and a move to recreational drugs for teenagers / trendy young things, pubs are finding it hard to survive.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Rachael on March 03, 2011, 05:44:29 PM
  I think its the cost of a night out in the pub,  when a glass of wine is £3.50 :( .... when supermarkets are so cheap these days for a bottle of  wine , pubs cannot compete unless they have a really good pub .

Also I think with unemployment at a high,  the cost of living going up, but wages staying the same people cannot justify the expense of a night out at the pub  .

As for youngsters  from my own experience ,  they live a life consumed by technology ( x box, facebook, I phones  ... )   which I feel stops them going out to the pubs, along with the expense , not many youngsters have jobs these days like they used to in my "YOOF".

I was talking to  a taxi driver, and he said the smoking ban has had a big impact on his buisness,  more people are staying at home, and also more people are unemployed so cant afford the luxury of taxis .
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Neil Smith on March 03, 2011, 05:56:42 PM
Sadly with the Smoking ban and a move to recreational drugs for teenagers / trendy young things, pubs are finding it hard to survive.

I don't think all the pub closures can be blamed to the smoking ban. If you look around the pubs that are still open are the ones that the landlords get of there backsides and do extra things eg live bands, food etc, the ones that have closed are the lazy ones thinking in this day and age people will come to them in flocks.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Duke Fame on March 04, 2011, 11:54:12 AM
Sadly with the Smoking ban and a move to recreational drugs for teenagers / trendy young things, pubs are finding it hard to survive.

I don't think all the pub closures can be blamed to the smoking ban. If you look around the pubs that are still open are the ones that the landlords get of there backsides and do extra things eg live bands, food etc, the ones that have closed are the lazy ones thinking in this day and age people will come to them in flocks.

After the smoking ban there were too many pubs for too few people prepared to go out. I  didn’t mention cheap off-sales in the supermarkets which also has an impact.

Although I'm fairly new to Marple, I understood the Norfolk arms tended to be the pub for th e teenagers / lads in their 20's with a smattering of divorcees trying their arm on girls who are half their age.

For this market, the pub trade has a diminishing market. As I say, tablets and cocaine are now the drug of choice over alcohol and a pub isn’t going to make a fortune selling bottles of water.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Miss Marple on March 05, 2011, 08:20:23 PM
Hey Duke I think that you will be surprised to know that Marple in the 70s had a huge drug problem far greater than today.  Poor little rich kids all had cellar / barn parties which attracted kids from all over Manchester.  You could get as much drink and drugs as you wanted all free of charge  :o
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Duke Fame on March 06, 2011, 09:35:23 AM
Hey Duke I think that you will be surprised to know that Marple in the 70s had a huge drug problem far greater than today.  Poor little rich kids all had cellar / barn parties which attracted kids from all over Manchester.  You could get as much drink and drugs as you wanted all free of charge  :o

That's great but it's not going to reverse the demise of the pub trade.

I noted a post from 'Jet' saying their is a petition to remove duty from pub beer. I think that is a great idea, draught beer could be tax-free which would help pubs.

There is a dominatrix pub near the Moggies nr Bredbury which is an interesting take on it all.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Osdog on March 16, 2011, 11:29:52 AM
And the shutters are still up !  LOL
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: My login is Henrietta on March 17, 2011, 01:08:40 PM
Notice in the latest political leaflet says that the metal shutters have to be removed by March 1st - so lets see what happens.
Hmm. They were still in situe this morning
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: My login is Henrietta on March 17, 2011, 01:18:41 PM
Sadly with the Smoking ban and a move to recreational drugs for teenagers / trendy young things, pubs are finding it hard to survive.

I don't think all the pub closures can be blamed to the smoking ban. If you look around the pubs that are still open are the ones that the landlords get of there backsides and do extra things eg live bands, food etc, the ones that have closed are the lazy ones thinking in this day and age people will come to them in flocks.
After the smoking ban there were too many pubs for too few people prepared to go out. I  didn’t mention cheap off-sales in the supermarkets which also has an impact.

Although I'm fairly new to Marple, I understood the Norfolk arms tended to be the pub for th e teenagers / lads in their 20's with a smattering of divorcees trying their arm on girls who are half their age.

For this market, the pub trade has a diminishing market. As I say, tablets and cocaine are now the drug of choice over alcohol and a pub isn’t going to make a fortune selling bottles of water.

I agree with some of this . The "traditional" local pub has the market anymore. People can buy booze in any corner shop, it's cheaper in supermarkets and your own sitting room is comfier than most pubs. Added to this the panic rush of so many pubs to attract and cater for yoof has alienated the traditional customer and is a very short sighted policy since there isn't a great customer loyalty ethic among that demograph. The Spring Gardens seems to have suffered a similar fate.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on March 17, 2011, 07:53:34 PM
Notice in the latest political leaflet says that the metal shutters have to be removed by March 1st - so lets see what happens.
Hmm. They were still in situe this morning
         You Dont Believe political leaflets do you .
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on March 21, 2011, 11:48:22 AM
Notice in the latest political leaflet says that the metal shutters have to be removed by March 1st - so lets see what happens.
Hmm. They were still in situe this morning
         You Dont Believe political leaflets do you .
                 The Norfolk arms notice served on it to remove shutters by 13 april and to reinstate to its original condition as it being in conservation area .allso the norfolk is a grade two listed building served by the councill
 last week .notice tied on the door and fall pipe side of pub . 
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: moorendman on March 22, 2011, 01:43:56 PM
Whilst I think the windows are an eyesore, what about the security risk?? Surely there is a middle way
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on March 22, 2011, 02:20:44 PM
What do you mean middle way .
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: moorendman on March 22, 2011, 05:11:17 PM
Sorry I didn't explain myself properly. Even before the pub was vacated , there was eveidence of casual vandalism to the building's windows. The owners, Punch taverns, are not about to put regular security on ( as they have enough empty pubs at the moment ) so without the ugly steel sheeting there is an increased lilkelihood of vandalism to the building making it even less a saleable proposition. There is also the possibilty of squatters getting in. Lead on the roof, copper piping etc will all disappear. It may be possible to retain the steel shuttering but cover them with something less intrusive. Large format printing on vinyl in relatively inexpensive these days. Faux windows and customers inside may work.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on March 22, 2011, 08:16:20 PM
sorry dont agree its not that bad an area . stop trying to make out something that wont happen .we have a good Marple bridge association here any thing amiss will be reported .
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Duke Fame on March 23, 2011, 01:13:35 PM
Sorry I didn't explain myself properly. Even before the pub was vacated , there was eveidence of casual vandalism to the building's windows. The owners, Punch taverns, are not about to put regular security on ( as they have enough empty pubs at the moment ) so without the ugly steel sheeting there is an increased lilkelihood of vandalism to the building making it even less a saleable proposition. There is also the possibilty of squatters getting in. Lead on the roof, copper piping etc will all disappear. It may be possible to retain the steel shuttering but cover them with something less intrusive. Large format printing on vinyl in relatively inexpensive these days. Faux windows and customers inside may work.

I think that's key, also it really draws the attention that there is a closed pub. It will help punch to sell the unit on by drawing attention to it. Punch announced to the market that they are radically changing their busiess plan where more pubs will close. I understand Loch Fyne may be looking to take it over which will be interesting.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on March 23, 2011, 02:46:58 PM
Sorry I didn't explain myself properly. Even before the pub was vacated , there was eveidence of casual vandalism to the building's windows. The owners, Punch taverns, are not about to put regular security on ( as they have enough empty pubs at the moment ) so without the ugly steel sheeting there is an increased lilkelihood of vandalism to the building making it even less a saleable proposition. There is also the possibilty of squatters getting in. Lead on the roof, copper piping etc will all disappear. It may be possible to retain the steel shuttering but cover them with something less intrusive. Large format printing on vinyl in relatively inexpensive these days. Faux windows and customers inside may work.

I think that's key, also it really draws the attention that there is a closed pub. It will help punch to sell the unit on by drawing attention to it. Punch announced to the market that they are radically changing their busiess plan where more pubs will close. I understand Loch Fyne may be looking to take it over which will be interesting.

Thanks for that who are loch fyne .
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Duke Fame on March 23, 2011, 03:52:31 PM
Sorry I didn't explain myself properly. Even before the pub was vacated , there was eveidence of casual vandalism to the building's windows. The owners, Punch taverns, are not about to put regular security on ( as they have enough empty pubs at the moment ) so without the ugly steel sheeting there is an increased lilkelihood of vandalism to the building making it even less a saleable proposition. There is also the possibilty of squatters getting in. Lead on the roof, copper piping etc will all disappear. It may be possible to retain the steel shuttering but cover them with something less intrusive. Large format printing on vinyl in relatively inexpensive these days. Faux windows and customers inside may work.

I think that's key, also it really draws the attention that there is a closed pub. It will help punch to sell the unit on by drawing attention to it. Punch announced to the market that they are radically changing their busiess plan where more pubs will close. I understand Loch Fyne may be looking to take it over which will be interesting.


 Thanks for that who are loch fyne .








F fish restaurant chain, they have a place in Didsbury. A bit like Live Bairt
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: moorendman on March 23, 2011, 04:28:07 PM
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sorry dont agree its not that bad an area . stop trying to make out something that wont happen .we have a good Marple bridge association here any thing amiss will be reported


I have no interest in "trying to make something out" It is a fact that windows were being broken even when the pub was occupied.

FYI Loch Fyne are an upmarket restaurant chain that specialise in Fish, they currently have places in Alderley Edge, Didsbury and Knutsford. They would be a real asset to the area but I feel the premises would be too small.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Dave on March 23, 2011, 05:38:38 PM
I'm afraid you're right. A Loch Fyne in Marple Bridge would be nice, but it would need a bigger building, and I fear we aren't quite posh enough :-(
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Harry on March 23, 2011, 10:18:52 PM
A Loch Fyne would probably be quite popular. I know a couple of these in the South East, and they are excellent. I think it could do quite well. A refreshing change from the usual fare.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: moorendman on March 24, 2011, 08:28:10 AM
I would think that the demographic profile of the area is certainly "posh" enough ( Be careful you will upset Amazon, I did with suggestions it's not a good area ;) ) Considering the relative wealth of the area, we are not well served by good restaurants and the only place to eat decent fish in our area is the Swan at Kettleshulme.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Dave on March 24, 2011, 10:31:14 AM
Yes, we certainly miss Robert, and Kettleshulme is a bit of a trek...  :(

At the risk of upsetting Amazon, I don't think this area is nearly as posh (or should I say flashy?) as Alderley Edge, Didsbury, Bramhall, Hale Barns etc.  And it's all the better for it - we certainly wouldn't want to live in any of those places.    ;D
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: moorendman on March 24, 2011, 11:27:11 AM
Dave, I would prefer to use Flashy rather then Posh. Although Didsbury is hardly either. We lived in Bramhall for 20 years prior to moving to Mellor and I prefer this area as it has more of a community spirit and fewer bars like Beluga and Pzaazz.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on March 29, 2011, 01:16:04 PM
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sorry dont agree its not that bad an area . stop trying to make out something that wont happen .we have a good Marple bridge association here any thing amiss will be reported


I have no interest in "trying to make something out" It is a fact that windows were being broken even when the pub was occupied.

FYI Loch Fyne are an upmarket restaurant chain that specialise in Fish, they currently have places in Alderley Edge, Didsbury and Knutsford. They would be a real asset to the area but I feel the premises would be too small.


The windows that are now boarded up now have posters on some of them advertising a pop band ,
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Duke Fame on March 29, 2011, 03:45:12 PM
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sorry dont agree its not that bad an area . stop trying to make out something that wont happen .we have a good Marple bridge association here any thing amiss will be reported


I have no interest in "trying to make something out" It is a fact that windows were being broken even when the pub was occupied.

FYI Loch Fyne are an upmarket restaurant chain that specialise in Fish, they currently have places in Alderley Edge, Didsbury and Knutsford. They would be a real asset to the area but I feel the premises would be too small.


The windows that are now boarded up now have posters on some of them advertising a pop band ,

What band is it:
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on March 29, 2011, 08:19:59 PM
not saying the name of the pop group have a look the poster big enough you criticized me for getting upset now you know why it allways hapens on boarded up buildings  .until the panels come down they will be more posting . you do something about it .
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Duke Fame on March 30, 2011, 10:40:32 AM
not saying the name of the pop group have a look the poster big enough you criticized me for getting upset now you know why it allways hapens on boarded up buildings  .until the panels come down they will be more posting . you do something about it .

I'm not awar I was critical.

I do think the boarding on windows is required, it happens all the time with empty buildings to secure them. If we get the odd poster for a local band, I don't think that is the worst that can happen. I pass a nuber opf boarded up buildings on my reare morning run route so I can't see it a problem.

As for Lock Flyne, whilst it's far batter than an empty building, it would be nice for Marple Bridge to avoid turning into an area full of chain restaurants which are available anywhere
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: moorendman on March 30, 2011, 11:34:06 AM
The aluminium content of the water mustbe high this week. Why , Sir Duke , would the arrival of one chain restaurant ( Loch Fyne ) be a problem . Firstly its a very small chain and there are only 3 in the whole North West and secondly, what other chains do we have ?  ( Except the Midland perhaps ) PS the band is A Few Good Men appearing at the romper , they are a very good local blues band , almost session musician level.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Dave on March 30, 2011, 12:21:07 PM
I'm not awar I was critical......I pass a nuber opf boarded up buildings on my reare morning run route.....As for Lock Flyne, whilst it's far batter than an empty building........

Duke, are you awar of the spellchecker at the bottom of the 'post reply' screen?   There are a nuber opf useful gadgets on this site - far batter to use them than tell us all about your reare morning run route (not sure we want to know about that...  ;)
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: moorendman on March 30, 2011, 02:44:18 PM
my reare morning means rewired,revered, dreary, rearmed renrewshire resident according to the spell checker - opfiously!!
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on March 30, 2011, 04:28:26 PM
I'm not awar I was critical.

I do think the boarding on windows is required, it happens all the time with empty buildings to secure them. If we get the odd poster for a local band, I don't think that is the worst that can happen. I pass a nuber opf boarded up buildings on my reare morning run route so I can't see it a problem.

As for Lock Flyne, whilst it's far batter than an empty building, it would be nice for Marple Bridge to avoid turning into an area full of chain restaurants which are available anywhere
Or a Fly posting area .
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Tricky on March 30, 2011, 05:48:35 PM
The poster is only there because there's no access to Sally Brown's.. It's been plastered on that window for the last 2 or 3 years.


Fly posting area ? - let's not get carried away
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on March 30, 2011, 09:03:20 PM
The poster is only there because there's no access to Sally Brown's.. It's been plastered on that window for the last 2 or 3 years.


Fly posting area ? - let's not get carried away.
                                                                    So That makes it right to post it there have you put it there .
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Tricky on March 30, 2011, 09:32:34 PM
No, of course not. I was being a little sarcastic. Sorry.

Reading my post again, I can see how you might not have got that.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on May 12, 2011, 01:08:29 PM
the metal boards were being removed this morning ,what i did notice there were alot of Pakistan's around .so wonder if it has been sold maybe for a restaurant  .
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Harry on May 12, 2011, 01:22:15 PM
According to the estate agent's web site it is 'CURRENTLY UNDER OFFER '
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: elpram on May 12, 2011, 01:31:52 PM
It would be great if Purple  Pakora opened there instead of the old Midlers building!
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on May 12, 2011, 03:58:19 PM
It would be great if Purple  Pakora opened there instead of the old Midlers building!
        could be the banner has gone from Midlers saying they were opening there soon .[ 
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: sgk on May 13, 2011, 07:18:03 PM
Builders at Norfolk Arms were there for a second day today, working on the interior.  Changes afoot ?
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on May 14, 2011, 02:10:27 PM
Builders at Norfolk Arms were there for a second day today, working on the interior.  Changes afoot ?

           they have put some sort of shutters up inside the bar area .near the windows . 
             does look beter with the metal shutters outside down .though /
                         
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on May 16, 2011, 01:27:39 PM
Builders at Norfolk Arms were there for a second day today, working on the interior.  Changes afoot ?

          they have put some sort of shutters up inside the bar area .near the windows . 
            does look better with the metal shutters outside down .though /
                         
Monday new board up outside different agent s now for let as bar restraunt .so does thet mean someones bought it and now letting it
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: law man on May 30, 2011, 08:44:18 AM
Marple Bridge needs a user that complements the village setting. Its one of the last places in stockport where a true village feeling needs to remain. We have enough curry houses in the vicinity. A decent up market wine bar at the very least or preferably turning the building into 2/3 appartments would make better sense both in terms of use and value for the freeholder - do they not realise this ?. We have enough Public houses and enough restaurants in the immediate vicinity for people to enjoy - we do not want or need anymore !!.
The building is LISTED and any user wishing to make any changes to its interior / exterior is going to meet opposition from local people and the LA which is going to cost the user dearly, particularly if they think they are going to erect yet another extract system from the building.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Duke Fame on May 30, 2011, 04:47:44 PM
Marple Bridge needs a user that complements the village setting. Its one of the last places in stockport where a true village feeling needs to remain. We have enough curry houses in the vicinity. A decent up market wine bar at the very least or preferably turning the building into 2/3 appartments would make better sense both in terms of use and value for the freeholder - do they not realise this ?. We have enough Public houses and enough restaurants in the immediate vicinity for people to enjoy - we do not want or need anymore !!.
The building is LISTED and any user wishing to make any changes to its interior / exterior is going to meet opposition from local people and the LA which is going to cost the user dearly, particularly if they think they are going to erect yet another extract system from the building.


I think a restaurant would be good. It's up to the owner who set's up a business and then it's down to the business owner to get it right to make a success out of it.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: RWW on June 08, 2011, 12:47:43 AM
I'd have thought a pub would have been more in keeping with the history of the area than a wine bar...
There used to be five or six pubs on town street in the victorian era all those gothic lamp posts represent.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Disgusted of Marple on June 10, 2011, 11:44:52 PM
Am I really the only person so far to have used the words Norfolk & good in the same sentence when describing that pub? I'll get me coat, just in case this post gets past admin.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: My login is Henrietta on July 19, 2011, 06:01:58 PM
I'd have thought a pub would have been more in keeping with the history of the area than a wine bar...
There used to be five or six pubs on town street in the victorian era all those gothic lamp posts represent.
But that was in the era before television and supermarkets which sold cheaper booze. And before Yps had better places to go than a boring old pub.

I suspect that the mistake the old Norfolk made was the one the Spring Gardens made - too much emphasis on attracting a very young clientele at the expense of driving away the existing customers. Young people are very fickle in their loyalties and when they found something they liked better there was no core customer source for the landlord to fall back on.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Osdog on August 05, 2011, 01:31:32 PM
There used to be a wine bar in the village - where the chinese is now..... how long did that last........not long !
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Henry_ on August 30, 2011, 02:56:29 PM
There used to be a wine bar in the village - where the chinese is now..... how long did that last........not long !

Howards bar, run by Ted from the Norfolk. Early/mid 90s. Wish the Norfolk could be a decent pub again TBH  :(
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Osdog on August 31, 2011, 10:23:42 AM
Norfolk Arms looks tidy now, but I still can't see what's being done with it... any clues anyone.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on August 31, 2011, 11:06:24 AM
Norfolk Arms looks tidy now, but I still can't see what's being done with it... any clues anyone.

            No Empty .would be better turned in to apartments .
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Osdog on August 31, 2011, 07:54:23 PM
Or a supermarket !  (said tongue in cheek !)   ???

Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Henry_ on August 31, 2011, 10:36:36 PM
Norfolk Arms looks tidy now, but I still can't see what's being done with it... any clues anyone.

            No Empty .would be better turned in to apartments .

It would end up like the Hacienda of Marple Bridge - a long, lost, loved haunt of young hedonists converted into trendy living 'spaces' for yuppies. Would be a sad day  :(
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: hollins on September 01, 2011, 08:54:15 AM
Local history museum?
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: myloweb on September 13, 2011, 08:51:59 PM
Like the Lane Ends, the Norfolk would have been better if someone had turned them into decent bed and breakfast places.
I know a few people who would have used them weekly whilst working over here in God's own country.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: bluebelly on September 14, 2011, 07:32:46 AM
b and b , great idea . wish i had the money to invest
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: admin on September 19, 2011, 06:33:35 AM
It's rumoured that one of these is coming to the Norfolk Arms: http://www.gustorestaurants.uk.com
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Dave on September 19, 2011, 09:29:19 AM
It looks good.    Not sure I'll be having the lobster too often tho', at £35 a pop!    :o
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Marplenewbie on September 19, 2011, 09:10:19 PM
It looks good.    Not sure I'll be having the lobster too often tho', at £35 a pop!    :o

Yikes!
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: jethroh65 on September 19, 2011, 11:05:37 PM
It looks good.    Not sure I'll be having the lobster too often tho', at £35 a pop!    :o
Is that with chips ?
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on September 20, 2011, 01:32:33 PM
It looks good.    Not sure I'll be having the lobster too often tho', at £35 a pop!    :o
Is that with chips ?
;D
               Disapointed its not going to be a tesco  ::)
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: alison on September 20, 2011, 01:38:53 PM
Ooh Amazon behave yourself, I can hear pencils being sharpened for the next petition ;)
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on September 20, 2011, 04:25:20 PM
Ooh Amazon behave yourself, I can hear pencils being sharpened for the next petition ;)

             Made from the wood from dan bank  ;)
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: NeilCorrie on September 23, 2011, 11:00:28 AM
From the size of that menu it looks like an upmarket Taybarns.....
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: alison on September 23, 2011, 07:33:20 PM
Actually if it is Gusto I've been to a couple of them and the food and the service are really good. And its also a shortish stagger (sadly uphill) back to my parents house from there so bring on the wine!

Alison
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Marplemum on September 24, 2011, 05:58:32 PM
Gusto would be a great adddition to the village.   I've been to the Alderley Edge one and the food and service have been first class.  The Norfolk has been a problem for too long now - it's a shame that it can't be run successfully as a local pub but many have tried and failed.  Gusto seems a good option and it would give The Midland some competition (which is also excellent by the way)
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Henry_ on September 26, 2011, 10:08:41 PM
The Norfolk holds many fond memories for me, so this is rather a sad development. However, Marple Bridge has not supported 3 busy pubs during my lifetime - never more than 2 were any good at any one time. So it makes sense and there could be worse things than a quality Italian.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Miss Marple on September 26, 2011, 10:15:50 PM
Been to Gusto many times and the food is wonderful it would be fantastic  if it did open in the Bridge.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Marplemum on October 01, 2011, 10:22:22 PM
Latest I heard is that it isn't going to be Gusto after all, but a guy from Yorkshire will be taking it over. Think he already owns a small chain in Yorkshire.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Dave on October 02, 2011, 10:07:29 AM
Must be Harry Ramsden's then.......   ;D 
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Henry_ on October 05, 2011, 07:37:36 PM
A small chain of what? Supermarkets?
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Miss Marple on October 05, 2011, 08:09:10 PM
Maybe Premier Stores ?
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Marplemum on October 06, 2011, 07:36:46 PM
Restaurants............
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Henry_ on October 11, 2011, 10:43:26 AM
The lights have been on inside the Norfolk and something is afoot in there. It looks like builders might be in.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: law man on October 11, 2011, 11:46:24 AM
If the builders are in have they secured listed building consent ?? - if not then they ought to cease works immediately as they could be facing a £20k fine or 6 months in prison or both ?.
The norfolk arms and maple tree occupy a building that is described as a 'high house' and its protected by a grade 2 listing status so any demolition / alteration work internally / externally is or should be covered by written consent from the LA.
All works proposed will need to have formal approval to proceed, as will any deviation from the proposed plans.
It is vitally important that our heritage is protected as is the nature of marple bridge's conservation status.
The only way this can be ensured is proper consultation with the LA and local groups.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Dave on October 11, 2011, 01:13:35 PM
Scaffolding being unloaded outside this morning.     
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Henry_ on October 11, 2011, 02:08:39 PM
Scaffolding being unloaded outside this morning.     

Yes, they're quite busy today with scaffold up and a skip in the car park.

law man, I wonder if they took into account these rules in the mid 90s when all the old fixtures and fittings were ripped out thereby precipitating the long and sad decline of the place as a drinking establishment?
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Marplemum on October 11, 2011, 03:52:46 PM
I don't claim to be any expert on listed buildings consent or anything but I am sure they wouldn't have started the work without all the necessary approvals, especially when it is very obvious to anyone passing that work is going on inside.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: tonyjones on October 11, 2011, 04:09:21 PM
Found on the list of SMBC planning applications fo rlast week !


 1-3 TOWN STREET, MARPLE BRIDGE, SK6 5AA
 Proposal: Change of use of from A1 to A3 to form part of adjacent coffee shop premises and Memorial Park, installation of external flue. Marple Stockport SK6 6BA
Change of Use
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Marplemum on October 11, 2011, 04:15:32 PM
I think that refers to Libbys Coffee shop which is 1a Town Street, Marple Bridge.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Tricky on October 11, 2011, 04:15:55 PM
Pretty sure the Norfolk is Number 2 Town Street

 :) Marplemum
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Lisa Oldham on October 11, 2011, 04:24:32 PM
Loads of stuff going on inside too!  Big saws out and the blokes are wearing masks already!   Nosied through the windows that they've already replaced with clear glass ..didn't have the nerve to nip in and ask!
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Dave on October 11, 2011, 04:39:12 PM
Loads of stuff going on inside too.....the blokes are wearing masks already! 

So, no change then.   :D
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: rickyracoon on October 11, 2011, 04:46:39 PM
Just had a look on the SMBC planning in regards to Town street, and on the PDF's it clearly states they are plans for "proposed refurbishment works for Libby's". I think they are extending to next door if memory serves me right.
Looks like the Norfolk's future is still a mystery.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Henry_ on October 13, 2011, 09:27:16 PM
Are we still none the wiser as to what's going on at the Norfolk then?
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on October 14, 2011, 08:39:05 PM
Are we still none the wiser as to what's going on at the Norfolk then?
            re roofing the norfolk at the moment . and people in handburys today measuring up .
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on October 14, 2011, 08:45:36 PM
Just had a look on the SMBC planning in regards to Town street, and on the PDF's it clearly states they are plans for "proposed refurbishment works for Libby's". I think they are extending to next door if memory serves me right.
Looks like the Norfolk's future is still a mystery.

Could be that whoever now owns the norfolk going to have to spend some money bringing it up to a decent standard ,before gusto if they are still having it ,go in .
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on October 17, 2011, 02:45:25 PM
Just had a look on the SMBC planning in regards to Town street, and on the PDF's it clearly states they are plans for "proposed refurbishment works for Libby's". I think they are extending to next door if memory serves me right.
Looks like the Norfolk's future is still a mystery.

Could be that whoever now owns the norfolk going to have to spend some money bringing it up to a decent standard ,before gusto if they are still having it ,go in .

 restaurant going upstairs pub type wine bar downstairs
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on October 22, 2011, 08:32:22 PM
Just had a look on the SMBC planning in regards to Town street, and on the PDF's it clearly states they are plans for "proposed refurbishment works for Libby's". I think they are extending to next door if memory serves me right.
Looks like the Norfolk's future is still a mystery.

Could be that whoever now owns the norfolk going to have to spend some money bringing it up to a decent standard ,before gusto if they are still having it ,go in .

 restaurant going upstairs pub type wine bar downstairs

   piles of wood now outside any body want any for wood burning stoves sure they would be only glad to get rid [ no Harm in asking ]
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Henry_ on October 27, 2011, 03:28:33 PM
Building work is continuing with scaffolding all over the building now, and the roof is being replaced. Has anyone stopped to ask the builders what's going on?
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: moorendman on October 27, 2011, 04:33:25 PM
Speaking to the roofers teh other day, it seems that a businessman from Yorkshire is the man behind it all. Not a chain, they thought it was going to be a gastropub. ( More £3 plus pints eh Dave? )
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on October 27, 2011, 09:14:00 PM
Speaking to the roofers teh other day, it seems that a businessman from Yorkshire is the man behind it all. Not a chain, they thought it was going to be a gastropub. ( More £3 plus pints eh Dave? )

             Gusto .the man that owns them is from yorkshire just opened two more in manchester .but i dont think they arecalled gusto .
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: alison on October 27, 2011, 10:39:34 PM
Gusto and Olive Press are the same chain now - Olive Press used to be owned by Heathcotes, but they sold just before last Christmas - the one in Manchester was going to be rebranded to Gusto, but they have kept the Olive Press name. The Cheadle Hulme one is the same
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: NeilCorrie on October 27, 2011, 10:58:13 PM
Gusto and Olive Press are the same chain now - Olive Press used to be owned by Heathcotes, but they sold just before last Christmas - the one in Manchester was going to be rebranded to Gusto, but they have kept the Olive Press name. The Cheadle Hulme one is the same

Yes.  In November 2010, Heathcote's Olive Press sold to Living Ventures group (which cover a few brands including Gusto (http://www.livingventures.com/lv-brands)), run by Tim Bacon.

Liverpool Echo article : Paul Heathcote sells Olive Press to Living Room founder Tim Bacon (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2010/11/06/paul-heathcote-sells-olive-press-to-living-room-founder-tim-bacon-100252-27610708)
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Iona on December 10, 2011, 02:53:59 PM
Any timescale on when the new Gusto might open?
 
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on December 10, 2011, 03:31:02 PM
Any timescale on when the new Gusto might open?
 
Dont think its now going to be a gusto There was a report Stockport express some one from yorkshire had bought it for pub restraunt .i know there spending a hell of a lot of money on it t its no ware near ready for opening yet ,certainly wont be open for Christmas
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: TSF on January 15, 2012, 11:22:27 PM
Looking forward to Norfolk opening soon, bar downstairs &. Restaurant upstairs,,, good luck lads
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on January 16, 2012, 04:01:13 PM
Looking forward to Norfolk opening soon, bar downstairs &. Restaurant upstairs,,, good luck lads


will be a few months yet .nothing seems to have been going on since christmas .very few workmen there .
  i will ask at the post office when i go in .
               
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: PhilB on January 16, 2012, 10:41:02 PM
Probably waiting planning permission......   http://interactive.stockport.gov.uk/edrms/onlinemvm/mvmedrms.asp?DCNumber=DC048670
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: marveld on January 16, 2012, 11:56:48 PM
Probably waiting planning permission......   http://interactive.stockport.gov.uk/edrms/onlinemvm/mvmedrms.asp?DCNumber=DC048670

Thanks for the link. I don't think much of the car registration sign!

http://interactive.stockport.gov.uk/edrms/onlinemvm/getimage.asp?DocumentNumber=173903 (http://interactive.stockport.gov.uk/edrms/onlinemvm/getimage.asp?DocumentNumber=173903)
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: noni mouse on January 17, 2012, 03:54:06 PM
Dave, Marple Bridge Stores no more? Last time I passed the Post Office it was still there. Is there something we should know?
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on January 17, 2012, 05:03:32 PM
Dave, Marple Bridge Stores no more? Last time I passed the Post Office it was still there. Is there something we should know?

     Dont understand your post .
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Dave on January 17, 2012, 05:15:55 PM
Dave, Marple Bridge Stores no more?

Not me, noni - I didn't say a word!   :-X
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: gazwhite on January 17, 2012, 11:36:09 PM
Dave, Marple Bridge Stores no more? Last time I passed the Post Office it was still there. Is there something we should know?

     Dont understand your post .

Are you confusing with 'Town Street Stores' - the old 'Spar'.  That property is currently empty.

Post Office/MARPLE BRIDGE STORES LTD is the same place, and we're still there/here thanks! Just starting our new range of fresh fruit and veg - after our trial run in mid 2011. We've found an excellent local supplier and work to beat supermarket prices! Please let Sean, Barbara and myself have any feedback or suggestions!    white.gareth@hotmail.com.   

The lads at the Norfolk are still working on it - and  doing a grand job!  Taking time, but will be worth it - just what our village needs.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on March 05, 2012, 03:30:06 PM
Dave, Marple Bridge Stores no more? Last time I passed the Post Office it was still there. Is there something we should know?

     Dont understand your post .

Are you confusing with 'Town Street Stores' - the old 'Spar'.  That property is currently empty.

Post Office/MARPLE BRIDGE STORES LTD is the same place, and we're still there/here thanks! Just starting our new range of fresh fruit and veg - after our trial run in mid 2011. We've found an excellent local supplier and work to beat supermarket prices! Please let Sean, Barbara and myself have any feedback or suggestions!    white.gareth@hotmail.com.   

The lads at the Norfolk are still working on it - and  doing a grand job!  Taking time, but will be worth it - just what our village needs.
Can't be far of opening now beer being delivered this morning  ,
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Heritage on March 05, 2012, 04:14:01 PM
Hope they serve real ales.....
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Dave on March 05, 2012, 04:45:13 PM
...and at a sensible price.   Paid £3.50 for a pint of Taylor's Landlord the other day.   :o It was nice, I will admit.    Where was this, you ask?   The Oddies, natch   ;D
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Marplemum on March 05, 2012, 07:13:55 PM
Although this has taken ages to refurbish, I hope they don't open it before it is properly ready.  It looks like it is quite a long way from being ready to receive paying customers - i.e. bare plaster on the walls and still loads of junk outside and that fish and chip sign in the top window isn't exactly adding to the look of the place. The outside of the building looks like it needs a good clean up.  I will definitely try it out and want it to be a success.  It will be good for the village to have another great restaurant.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: elpram on March 09, 2012, 08:57:31 PM
Took a peak through the window yesterday and the bar looks stocked....just looks like a bomb's hit the rest of the interior and the exterior doesn't look exactly spic n span  :-\
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Marplemum on March 14, 2012, 07:45:25 PM
Does anyone know when the Norfolk is going to re-open?  It's still not looking particularly good from the outside - really bad white paint job.  I hope they are going to clean it all up - the pavement too! 
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Henry_ on March 15, 2012, 09:13:34 AM
Does anyone know when the Norfolk is going to re-open?  It's still not looking particularly good from the outside - really bad white paint job.  I hope they are going to clean it all up - the pavement too! 
and yet the inside seems to be full of furniture and booze. Can't figure it out at all. No idea also if it's going to have a change of name or not.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Miss Marple on March 15, 2012, 06:52:27 PM
Well whatever it's going to be I think we can be 100% sure that it's not a top class restaurant refurbishment  I drove past yesterday and they had the old furniture from the Norfolk outside for sale.   Does anyone know what its going to be ?
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on March 15, 2012, 06:54:23 PM
Well whatever it's going to be I think we can be 100% sure that it's not a top class restaurant refurbishment  I drove past yesterday and they had the old furniture from the Norfolk outside for sale.   Does anyone know what its going to be ?

No it's not what it was supposed to be iwill ask at the post office on Monday ....
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Marplemum on March 15, 2012, 07:11:40 PM
Well whatever it's going to be I think we can be 100% sure that it's not a top class restaurant refurbishment  I drove past yesterday and they had the old furniture from the Norfolk outside for sale.   Does anyone know what its going to be ?

Miss Marple, I never thought I would ever agree with you, but for once I do! ;)
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Heritage on March 15, 2012, 07:57:31 PM
Whatever it will be, everyone will find out when it opens  ;D
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Lisa Oldham on March 15, 2012, 08:21:09 PM
I think its moving well now.  Guess the selling of old stuff is just a way of trying to get a bit of cash back.  Also much better to recycle! I dont see a problem with it myself.  They've been clearing outside and undercoating windows  over last couple of days. I understood this to be a private venture not a big chain so its unlikely they can throw the cash at it all at once and at every problem that arises.. and i bet there were plenty of them in that place. From what I've nosied  it looks great inside
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Marplemum on March 18, 2012, 10:27:51 PM
I think it might have opened last night (very low key and no advertising that I was aware of).  I took a peek through the window today and it does look ready - bar all stocked and furniture all in place.  Don't think the restaurant upstairs is open yet though.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: mcfc on March 20, 2012, 11:15:00 AM
I think it might have opened last night (very low key and no advertising that I was aware of).  I took a peek through the window today and it does look ready - bar all stocked and furniture all in place.  Don't think the restaurant upstairs is open yet though.

My Brother went on Saturday said it was very nice. Toilets still needed a bit of attention but apart from that it was good. The outside still needs finishing(that big piece of plywood covering the window where the old kitchen used to be looks a mess and the decking needs sorting).

A friend of mine drove past yesterday tea time and said it was open and full of people so I'm going down tonight to have a look.

If anyone fancies buying me a pint I'll be there about 7.30pm
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: admin on March 21, 2012, 09:18:39 PM
I've been sent this attachment about an event on at the "new" Norfolk

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Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Howard on March 22, 2012, 12:12:45 AM
I bet it won't be as good a night out as The Vyperz (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=4211.0) on Friday night ;)
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on March 24, 2012, 08:27:55 PM
I bet it won't be as good a night out as The Vyperz (http://www.marple-uk.com/smf/index.php?topic=4211.0) on Friday night ;)

Anybody been in yet ,
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: gazwhite on March 26, 2012, 07:26:08 PM
Yes - I've had a few in there - nice surroundings/atmosphere - good all round - completes the set of quality pubs in the village.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Duke Fame on March 26, 2012, 11:35:27 PM
Well whatever it's going to be I think we can be 100% sure that it's not a top class restaurant refurbishment  I drove past yesterday and they had the old furniture from the Norfolk outside for sale.   Does anyone know what its going to be ?

We made it into a shabby chic table for the kitchen.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Dave on March 28, 2012, 09:37:51 AM
Popped in this week and had a quiet pint - Black Sheep, very nice, but a tad overpriced at £3.20.   

It's early days, but the signs could be good.  It's certainly looking to be a bit different from how it was, and from other pubs in the area, which is all good.  Stripped floorboards, scrubbed tables, contemporary pictures, subdued Miles Davis coming quietly through the speakers.  No food yet, and that will be one key test.

But I think this is a bit premature:
good all round - completes the set of quality pubs in the village.
....but then, gaz is doing his usual valiant job as our resident cheerleader for the Bridge    ;D
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: gazwhite on March 28, 2012, 11:27:02 PM
Popped in this week and had a quiet pint - Black Sheep, very nice, but a tad overpriced at £3.20.   

It's early days, but the signs could be good.  It's certainly looking to be a bit different from how it was, and from other pubs in the area, which is all good.  Stripped floorboards, scrubbed tables, contemporary pictures, subdued Miles Davis coming quietly through the speakers.  No food yet, and that will be one key test.

But I think this is a bit premature:
good all round - completes the set of quality pubs in the village.
....but then, gaz is doing his usual valiant job as our resident cheerleader for the Bridge    ;D

My glass is always half full    :-)
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: My login is Henrietta on March 31, 2012, 03:52:26 AM
Popped in this week and had a quiet pint - Black Sheep, very nice, but a tad overpriced at £3.20.   

It's early days, but the signs could be good.  It's certainly looking to be a bit different from how it was, and from other pubs in the area, which is all good.  Stripped floorboards, scrubbed tables, contemporary pictures, subdued Miles Davis coming quietly through the speakers.  No food yet, and that will be one key test.

But I think this is a bit premature:
good all round - completes the set of quality pubs in the village.
....but then, gaz is doing his usual valiant job as our resident cheerleader for the Bridge    ;D
A pub with grown up jazz can't be bad.

Today I noticed an advert in the window announcing live music on Thursday. The type of live music is not specified. 


Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: gazwhite on April 14, 2012, 07:56:31 AM
Marple Bridge Stores is the Post Office! So don't understand what your comment "now that Marple Bridge Stores is no more" means?
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on May 14, 2012, 08:38:43 PM
Marple Bridge Stores is the Post Office! So don't understand what your comment "now that Marple Bridge Stores is no more" means?
.

Says now open all day and serving food anyone been in for food is it bar snacks or restraunt
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: IanB on May 15, 2012, 05:51:58 PM
Ate there last week, at the moment it's just bar snacks (though pretty substantial).  I had 'Pie of the day' which was pork & mushroom with hand cut chips whilst my other half had a vegie burger with hand cut chips.  Have to say it was good, with large portions though it did take a while to get served, but since this was the first night they'd served food I'll put it down to teething trouble.

Have to say I do like the Norfolk Arms, being new to Marple Bridge I've no idea what it used to be like, but I like the choice of beers and the way it's been done out.  Mind you I like all the pubs in Marple Bridge :)
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Heritage on May 18, 2012, 02:56:50 PM
Loving the hand-cut chips....to go with my pan-fried steak and my oven-roasted vegetables.... :D
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: IanB on June 23, 2012, 07:53:52 PM
Noticed that tonight the Norfolk Arms is closed with a notice on the door that due to red tape they are unable to open, some kind of licensing problem I believe.  Hope they get it sorted soon.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on June 23, 2012, 09:06:37 PM
Noticed that tonight the Norfolk Arms is closed with a notice on the door that due to red tape they are unable to open, some kind of licensing problem I believe.  Hope they get it sorted soon.
.

Not renewed there licence. , or forgot to renew ther licence .thats what I've heard .
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: My login is Henrietta on June 25, 2012, 11:38:52 PM
Loving the hand-cut chips....to go with my pan-fried steak and my oven-roasted vegetables.... :D
Umm...what else are they going to fry a steak in? A plastic bucket?
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on June 26, 2012, 01:11:58 PM
Loving the hand-cut chips....to go with my pan-fried steak and my oven-roasted vegetables.... :D
Umm...what else are they going to fry a steak in? A plastic bucket?


Still closed today .
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: richard on June 26, 2012, 09:16:11 PM
How anybody can serve alcohol without a licence ( premises or personal) and think they can get way it beggars belief. A serious situation for those concerned i would think. If that is indeed the case.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: simonesaffron on June 26, 2012, 09:49:35 PM
If it has been shut down because of licence issues then that is technically a  "closure" I know that this appears to be stating the obvious but there are different types of shutdowns. What this means is that a new licence has to be applied for and the pub has to stay closed for a minimum of 28 days to see if there are any objections to its reopening.

That's the law and there is absolutely no way around it.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: sgk on June 27, 2012, 02:45:47 PM
If it has been shut down because of licence issues....

Application is now in the window, dated Friday 22nd June.  I guess we'll see it reopen late July if no objections to proposed opening hours.

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Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Lisa Oldham on June 28, 2012, 10:56:08 AM
Rather than no license or not renewing license, I understand it was the wrong license.  I dont think the new owners, who are working their ***** off to make a success of the place, would do it intentionally.  As someone said they have to wait a month, and for the next licensing meeting to open again.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: alan@marple on June 28, 2012, 10:41:42 PM
Well could they perhaps serve free beer and lager up to say 3 pints and charge, but charge an entrance fee of say £8 or sell non alcoholic drinks at £3. with a bog2f?
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Duke Fame on June 28, 2012, 11:30:24 PM
Open tonight, well done the owners
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: IanB on June 29, 2012, 09:52:36 PM
Are you sure? Shut tonight.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Duke Fame on July 01, 2012, 11:42:06 PM
Are you sure? Shut tonight.

Looked open, seems like it wasn't
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: My login is Henrietta on July 02, 2012, 12:04:22 AM
Are you sure? Shut tonight.

Looked open, seems like it wasn't
Lights were on but it looked like no-one was at home last night. Boards advertising food were out though.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: amazon on July 02, 2012, 01:23:56 PM
Are you sure? Shut tonight.

Looked open, seems like it wasn't
Lights were on but it looked like no-one was at home last night. Boards advertising food were out though.

It's still closed .
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: wheels on July 02, 2012, 01:40:05 PM
Good
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Duke Fame on July 02, 2012, 09:22:50 PM
Good

Not good surely, it's someone's livelyhood
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Lisa Oldham on July 03, 2012, 10:47:59 AM
I think its dreadful.  Feel so sorry for them :( They have worked so hard to get it looking good and it might not be everyones cup of tea but at least they have put their money where their mouths are and done something with it!!  Better than it being turned into a shop! or something worse!

Dont understand why anyone could wish them bad luck, especially on a community board!
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Duke Fame on July 03, 2012, 11:48:48 AM
I think its dreadful.  Feel so sorry for them :( They have worked so hard to get it looking good and it might not be everyones cup of tea but at least they have put their money where their mouths are and done something with it!!  Better than it being turned into a shop! or something worse!

Dont understand why anyone could wish them bad luck, especially on a community board!

Absolutely, the UK economy needs enterprising people who provide employment and wealth. This isn't going to be provided by council clerk who's ambition is limited to having a wet dream over finding an licencing anomaly.

Seriously Wheels, you can't mean that.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Mike W on July 03, 2012, 12:13:43 PM
Fully agree with Lisa and Duke.  For what it's worth, I thought the revamped Norfolk Arms was terrific - excellent beer, good food and a very pleasant atmosphere.  And a welcome change from the dominance of Robinson's pubs around Marple.  i sincerely hope the owners come through these short-term difficulties and make a real success of the place. 
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Osdog on July 03, 2012, 03:45:03 PM
I understood there was some problem with drinking there, and that in the attempt to throw out the unsavoury character, two cars were damaged when barrels were thrown into the windscreens.

I hope this is not a sign of things to come..... I'm looking forward to trying somewhere else to eat ...
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Duke Fame on July 03, 2012, 05:33:19 PM
I understood there was some problem with drinking there, and that in the attempt to throw out the unsavoury character, two cars were damaged when barrels were thrown into the windscreens.

I hope this is not a sign of things to come..... I'm looking forward to trying somewhere else to eat ...

In which case, it's the unsavory character that needs dealing with, not the pub.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: wheels on July 03, 2012, 10:39:29 PM
I think its dreadful.  Feel so sorry for them :( They have worked so hard to get it looking good and it might not be everyones cup of tea but at least they have put their money where their mouths are and done something with it!!  Better than it being turned into a shop! or something worse!

Don't understand why anyone could wish them bad luck, especially on a community board!

Absolutely, the UK economy needs enterprising people who provide employment and wealth. This isn't going to be provided by council clerk who's ambition is limited to having a wet dream over finding an licencing anomaly.

Seriously Wheels, you can't mean that.
Yes I do this guy was operating without a licence. Why is he to be cut the slack and others arn't.

I don't see it as good business practice to knowingly  ignore the law.

I put the question back to you you can't seriously support this behaviour.

Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Duke Fame on July 03, 2012, 11:24:19 PM
Do you known that to be true? I thought it was more complex than not having a licence at all.

You don't think it axshame on a personal level for those who have set it up & the staff they have employed?

Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: wheels on July 03, 2012, 11:28:19 PM
If as I understand it he was continuing to trade knowingly without a licence. No I don't feel for him, I feel for all the other publicans who have done things correctly and who have lost customer to someone who felt they were above the law.

Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Lisa Oldham on July 04, 2012, 05:13:37 PM
I don't think anyone has ever suggested they KNOWINGLY got the wrong license?  If you are suggesting this could you explain why please?

I understand that they accidentally got the wrong license, that they did HAVE a license but misunderstood the requirements of it.  They are a young couple starting off in a business and I think they're really very brave taking that particular place on.

They discovered the license was wrong when THEY called the police after a disturbance from some idiots who were asked to leave.

I think I've made as much as I can clear.. it was NOT on purpose.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Lisa Oldham on July 04, 2012, 05:21:58 PM
and in addition.... as far as i know.. every other pub in marple is owned by a big company.  the landlords make their living but they are fully supported by the breweries that OWN the pubs.  None of them wanted to touch the Norfolk!!  This couple are saving a lovely building, creating a much needed free house, and hopefully a restaurant very soon, all out of their own pocket with no big corporate support behind them..  So yes.. lets give them a little slack
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: gazwhite on July 04, 2012, 06:20:39 PM
Go Lisa, Go Lisa...

Totally agree - lovely bunch of people... ...the yellow VW Beetle with 'Yummy Mummy' on the side indicates he has as much passion for cars as I have for knitting, but these guys know how to make a lovely drinking venue!

Fingers crossed it re-opens soon and we don't end up with another small independent suffering.

Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: wheels on July 04, 2012, 07:37:27 PM
I don't think anyone has ever suggested they KNOWINGLY got the wrong license?  If you are suggesting this could you explain why please?

I understand that they accidentally got the wrong license, that they did HAVE a license but misunderstood the requirements of it.  They are a young couple starting off in a business and I think they're really very brave taking that particular place on.

They discovered the license was wrong when THEY called the police after a disturbance from some idiots who were asked to leave.

I think I've made as much as I can clear.. it was NOT on purpose.

No but they continued trading after they knew they had the wrong licence and thats wrong end of.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Lisa Oldham on July 04, 2012, 08:47:37 PM
nope..  it was shut the next morning!  Why do you think it carried on trading? 

There was a bit of trouble there one night.. they asked them to leave.... little ****s smashed the family cars.. the landlord called police.. as part of the whole legal process the license was routinely checked.. there was found to be ONE issue with it... police made them  .. sorry I should change the language there as it might be construed as they put up a fight...  they were asked  to close ..they cleared the nice customers out and closed early.. they didn't open the next day instead they applied for the correct license... they haven't opened since apart from sticking their heads out of door and explaining whats gone on

so.what did they do wrong??
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Lisa Oldham on July 04, 2012, 08:50:09 PM
If they had done this as you suggested Wheels the police would have thrown the book at them! Its because it was an honest mistake and they did exactly what the police have asked them to do that they havent been charged and the place closed down permanently!
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: wheels on July 04, 2012, 08:55:55 PM
Lisa, well I accept what you say in good faith. Its certainly not the briefing I had so we appraoch the matter with different information thus a different attitude.

If as you say you live on Seven Stiles the Norfolk Arms is a good way from you how come your so well informed. As I say I take what you say in good faith
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Lisa Oldham on July 04, 2012, 09:33:57 PM
Yes i do live in Seven stiles,  however I spend a good part of every day in Marple Bridge.  My kids went to the local pre school in MB and one of my 4 still goes to the local primary school there and so I have been around and about Marple Bridge for over 10 years,as well as being a long term resident of Marple.    I walk my dog in Brabyns park twice Every day of the week and I also use the cafes and pubs and restaurants on a far too regular basis.  As a result of my regular prolonged use of the local facilities I have got to know quite a lot of the Marple Bridge residents and know a fair few of the Marple Bridge Association too!

I would like to point out however I DONT know the landlord and landlady of the Norfolk personally, though I do recognise both of them.

It might be that I am wrong, though certainly not far off, its clear we are both going on "What we've heard" however accusing local business owners of wrong doing, and legal wrong doing at that, on a community board or anywhere for that matter, with out any evidence, is very wrong.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: law man on July 25, 2012, 11:31:40 AM
I hear it that not only did they breach their licensing conditions, that they are also breaching their planning conditions as regards food production ?. They are apparently obliged to provide to the LA a design of the kitchen extract system along with drawings / design spec and maintenance schedule to eliminate the food smells coming from the kitchen. Given the maple tree system they have quite an ordeal ahead of them as the MT system has set the precedent for the village and was installed as a result of enforcement action.
They have to do this asap as the current system is totally inadequate and will lead to legal action. Something I suspect they may wish to avoid given their recent history !!!!.
The surrounding residential properties will have no hesitation whatsoever in reporting the breach as they had a bellyfull with the MT premises a few years ago - and who can blame them - it is after all a CONSERVATION AREA and everybody needs to respect that be it business or resident.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Lisa Oldham on July 25, 2012, 01:05:03 PM
I didn't think the kitchen and restaurant was up and running yet?  though I suppose they were doing bar food...

As I understand it they did NOT breach licensing conditions... there was a misunderstanding between the last licensee and new one and the license that they had didnt have the right info on it .. more of a red tape issue rather than a breach.

I think the work done so far has been very respectful of the local conservation area and I expect, as residents, they will continue to be so.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: wheels on July 25, 2012, 01:41:52 PM
Lisa that fact that it was a misunderstanding is neither here nor there it was in fact still a breach. There are often understandable reasons for a breach but it is still a breach.

We are not being hostile to them here just factual
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: law man on July 25, 2012, 04:05:39 PM
Agreed a breach is a breach (ignorance is not a defence.).
Notwithstanding that I wish them success in what is a very tough market place .
Being a local resident here though and having first hand experiences of the previous clientele of these premises, I am not alone in having reservations about this establishment opening up again. I hope for everyones sake the 'new' landlords take their responsibilities VERY SERIOUSLY as problems with any noise affecting the loss of amenity of nearby residents will ( and I emphasise 'will') lead to a licence review and every effort will be made to have the late night opening hours withdrawn (for starters). In addition other public nuisance issues (in addition to noise) such as food odours will be similarly dealt with leading to expensive enforcement action.
I just hope we do not have to resort to this, and that the new landlords give us no excuse whatsoever to bring the weight of the law to bear upon them !!.
If they need assistance with certain compliance issues particularly on the environmental side, I am happy to assist where I can.
As a starter they may wish to look at the maple tree's system as this was designed to meet the minimum standard. This works providing regular maintenance is carried out, which is essential. The secret is to get the design carried out by a competent person / contractor from the outset. At least one can then apportion blame if the system fails to meet the standard. I believe the maple tree had approx 3 attempts before they were more or less forced to bring in a consultant - they went down a very expensive route with the initial intention of trying to do this on the cheap - NOT RECOMMENDED.

Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Duke Fame on July 25, 2012, 06:00:36 PM
Agreed a breach is a breach (ignorance is not a defence.).
Notwithstanding that I wish them success in what is a very tough market place .
Being a local resident here though and having first hand experiences of the previous clientele of these premises, I am not alone in having reservations about this establishment opening up again. I hope for everyones sake the 'new' landlords take their responsibilities VERY SERIOUSLY as problems with any noise affecting the loss of amenity of nearby residents will ( and I emphasise 'will') lead to a licence review and every effort will be made to have the late night opening hours withdrawn (for starters). In addition other public nuisance issues (in addition to noise) such as food odours will be similarly dealt with leading to expensive enforcement action.
I just hope we do not have to resort to this, and that the new landlords give us no excuse whatsoever to bring the weight of the law to bear upon them !!.
If they need assistance with certain compliance issues particularly on the environmental side, I am happy to assist where I can.
As a starter they may wish to look at the maple tree's system as this was designed to meet the minimum standard. This works providing regular maintenance is carried out, which is essential. The secret is to get the design carried out by a competent person / contractor from the outset. At least one can then apportion blame if the system fails to meet the standard. I believe the maple tree had approx 3 attempts before they were more or less forced to bring in a consultant - they went down a very expensive route with the initial intention of trying to do this on the cheap - NOT RECOMMENDED.



Why have you typed 'new' landlords rather than new landlords??

From your post, I do get the imprssion the amenity of nearby residents can not be taken for granted even if there is not an issue. There can't be many nearby residents whom have been in residence before teh Nofolkn Arms was a pubso surely, when they moved in, they knew there would be a few pubs nearby.

Marple Bridge could really be a goldmine as a party strip, I wish them all the luck.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Mike W on July 25, 2012, 10:24:33 PM
I'm bemused by this apparent negativity towards the refurbished Norfolk Arms. I thought it was an excellent addition to the area (as is Dutsons). I've no idea about the circumstances behind the licensing problems but I can imagine that enforced closure must be a nightmare in the current economy. I sincerely hope they manage to reopen and make a success of it. They'll have my custom.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Duke Fame on July 26, 2012, 12:06:07 AM
I'm bemused by this apparent negativity towards the refurbished Norfolk Arms. I thought it was an excellent addition to the area (as is Dutsons). I've no idea about the circumstances behind the licensing problems but I can imagine that enforced closure must be a nightmare in the current economy. I sincerely hope they manage to reopen and make a success of it. They'll have my custom.

Well said.

I wonder how pleased some posters would be if we rejoice at their livelihood disappearing.

I can't wait for the pub to reopen and I hope the nimbys cut it some slack
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: wheels on July 26, 2012, 07:39:59 AM
Would you be so understanding if say an Indian takeaway broke its licencing regulations.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Duke Fame on July 26, 2012, 08:03:18 AM
I'm bemused by this apparent negativity towards the refurbished Norfolk Arms. I thought it was an excellent addition to the area (as is Dutsons). I've no idea about the circumstances behind the licensing problems but I can imagine that enforced closure must be a nightmare in the current economy. I sincerely hope they manage to reopen and make a success of it. They'll have my custom.

Well said.

I wonder how pleased some posters would be if we rejoice at their livelihood disappearing.

I can't wait for the pub to reopen and I hope the nimbys cut it some slack
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Henry_ on July 26, 2012, 08:53:37 AM
Open again now
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Duke Fame on July 26, 2012, 10:55:28 AM
Would you be so understanding if say an Indian takeaway broke its licencing regulations.

Why not?
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: bluebelly on July 26, 2012, 11:45:39 AM
its been a pub a lot longer  than any conservation area. what constitutes a conservation area anyway. did people use to moan this much before the age of the internet...says me moaning.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Lisa Oldham on July 26, 2012, 12:41:52 PM
ditto duke.. well said Mike

Its not that I am arguing that theres not been a breach, however the language used in some posts in the past definitely and a couple of more recent ones imply purposeful wrong doing and this is simply NOT the case! Many don't post but a LOT of people read this and if we imply our opinion is fact then it can have a wider impact, especially on the  businesses discussed, and I think sometimes we should all think harder about how we write things.

Remember NO ONE was interested in the norfolk arms as a pub or otherwise...not even Tesco!! It was a total wreck and they have had to spend an awful lot more of their personal savings than expected to get it right.

right now I'm wondering if they would have preferred it knocked down, I presume from comments that a few on here would have preferred that option!!  Eventually that would have happened as it would have become dangerous.. and a few flats built! 

Lets support a couple who have put their livelihood on the line to try and make something of it, they are NOT managers or landlords (as in the past!) who can walk away or don't have any consideration or loyalty to the area they are local people who are our neighbours who have invested a massive amount of money time sweat and no doubt tears recently!!  Lets be appreciative of their efforts to save a bit of our history!
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Barbara on July 26, 2012, 04:59:49 PM
Hear, hear Lisa!!
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: hollins on July 27, 2012, 10:03:44 AM
Interesting article on the Norfolk Arms at
http://interactive.stockport.gov.uk/edrms/onlinemvm/getimage.asp?DocumentNumber=173891 (http://interactive.stockport.gov.uk/edrms/onlinemvm/getimage.asp?DocumentNumber=173891)

I think anyone who has put so much time, money and effort into creating a business and looking after a heritage building deserves your support, not brickbats.

Good luck to the new owners.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: wheels on July 27, 2012, 10:08:10 AM
Good job no one has given them "brickbacks" then  just statements of fact
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: hollins on July 27, 2012, 10:12:14 AM
Good job no one has given them "brickbacks" then  just statements of fact

"Brickbats", not "brickbacks", Wheels - it means "unfavourable criticism".
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: wheels on July 27, 2012, 10:47:59 AM
And there has not been any so I not sure what your orignal point was.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: jimblob on July 27, 2012, 11:17:58 AM
Hi Wheels,
Given your negativity towards the Norfolk Arms.... I suggest you drink at the Railway in Rose Hill, then you can admire the useless stretch of widened pavement you're so enamoured with that cost the Council Tax payers of Marple so much money.

Incidentally, if you're such a stickler for adhering to the letter of the law and everything being "above board", why aren't you concerned that the submitted plans for the scheme delivered incorrect information to the Marple Area Committee? (see attachment)

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Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: wheels on July 29, 2012, 03:57:39 PM
Hi Wheels,
Given your negativity towards the Norfolk Arms.... I suggest you drink at the Railway in Rose Hill, then you can admire the useless stretch of widened pavement you're so enamoured with that cost the Council Tax payers of Marple so much money.

Incidentally, if you're such a stickler for adhering to the letter of the law and everything being "above board", why aren't you concerned that the submitted plans for the scheme delivered incorrect information to the Marple Area Committee? (see attachment)

I have never expressed any negativity towards the Norfolk Arms I think you mislead if oyu suggest otherwise. You really do need to watch your blood pressure though
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: jimblob on July 30, 2012, 11:15:58 AM
well Wheels, actually you have....
post #181 - you acuse them of trading whilst knowingly having the wrong license but open with "As I understand it"... not giving them much benefot of doubt though!

but by post #185 this appears to be stated as fact....."end of".

You later resind your statement in post #188 and accept that someone else might have differing information to that of your own.

you seem all to keen on fact Wheels, you need to make sure you have yours straight before or making accusations or begin your statements  with an "In my Opinion". You seem very adept at changing the subject when your fact begins to move towards fiction and all too keen to avoid answering any questions. Have you ever considered local government as a career?

Myblood pressure is fine btw, had my recent middle-aged checkup the other day, but very nice of you to show concern for my wellbeing.... thank you.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: wheels on July 30, 2012, 11:38:00 AM
well Wheels, actually you have....
post #181 - you acuse them of trading whilst knowingly having the wrong license but open with "As I understand it"... not giving them much benefot of doubt though!

but by post #185 this appears to be stated as fact....."end of".

You later resind your statement in post #188 and accept that someone else might have differing information to that of your own.

you seem all to keen on fact Wheels, you need to make sure you have yours straight before or making accusations or begin your statements  with an "In my Opinion". You seem very adept at changing the subject when your fact begins to move towards fiction and all too keen to avoid answering any questions. Have you ever considered local government as a career?

Myblood pressure is fine btw, had my recent middle-aged checkup the other day, but very nice of you to show concern for my wellbeing.... thank you.



Clearly we have a different understand of what is a negative comment, so please your keeping well.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: law man on August 05, 2012, 06:34:14 PM
Comments from members suggesting MB would make a good party strip are not appropriate. Marple Bridge is a conservation area and should be respected as such. If this term is not understood suggest seeking advice from the many websites available.
Clearly a party strip is not what is wanted here and if thats what people want perhaps a relocation to blackpool is on the cards and leave the conservation areas to those that want to enjoy them ?.
I believe the norfolk will get support if they respect the environment around them. That means controlling the noise that has always been a problem in the past and installing a compliant extract system that does not cause a statutory nuisance or loss of amenity to properties nearby .
There is nothing more asked of them. We wish them luck in this tough economic climate.
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Duke Fame on August 06, 2012, 11:06:37 PM
Comments from members suggesting MB would make a good party strip are not appropriate. Marple Bridge is a conservation area and should be respected as such. If this term is not understood suggest seeking advice from the many websites available.
Clearly a party strip is not what is wanted here and if thats what people want perhaps a relocation to blackpool is on the cards and leave the conservation areas to those that want to enjoy them ?.
I believe the norfolk will get support if they respect the environment around them. That means controlling the noise that has always been a problem in the past and installing a compliant extract system that does not cause a statutory nuisance or loss of amenity to properties nearby .
There is nothing more asked of them. We wish them luck in this tough economic climate.

The point is that the Norfolkn arms has been there as a pub, long before 99% of residents and before it was a conservation area. What is conservation if it means pushing out the past?

Why didnt residents object to the two new drinking outlets that opened whilst the pub was shut?
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: bluebelly on August 07, 2012, 07:31:26 AM
good point duke . maybe a bit of snobery ?
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: Lisa Oldham on August 07, 2012, 09:13:02 AM
No not snobbery.  I totally understand.  The Norfolk has for many years been associated with very young drinkers and both the land lord/ladies and the customers have shown little consideration for the local residents.

From what i can see the new owners are trying to change that and attract completely different clientele and a different feel and ethos and it still comes back to.. owners and therefore neighbours.. or temporary land lords..

I understand the concern but I think the new owners should not be tarred with the same brush.  The existing pubs restaurants are very popular, always have been and have a regular large weekend trade that do not cause trouble ( much!) and are, I presume generally a little more respectful of the local residents.  I expect the new Norfolk will just increase the numbers of those types of people
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: bluebelly on August 07, 2012, 12:57:59 PM
types off people...
Title: Re: Norfolk Arms
Post by: simonesaffron on August 07, 2012, 02:16:39 PM
If you took the three pubs and the two wine - bars out of Marple Bridge, what would you actually have?  There aren't many streets 300 metres long with 5 bars contained. In a way it already is a strip albeit a Conservation Strip. 

Dutsons, Norfolk Arms & Libby's have all in the last 12 months had to apply for alcohol licences but nobody objected at least not enough to make an impact. Nobody is that interested anymore . Marple Bridge is just not the sleepy village that it once was 30/40 years ago. You just can't have 5 bars in a place that size and not accept the accompanying carousing that goes with it at the week-end.