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I've been looking at the messages about the old Hanburys shop in Marple. I past it today and was very worried about the state of the rotten window frames above  the shop.The big glass window on the apex at the front has a big crack in it. I hope both the frames, glass and windows will withstand the strong winds and bad weather we have been having because I would not like to be stood nearby if anything collapses. Still I suppose the owners of the site will have plenty of public liability insurance, well they will have, wont they? |
Quote (useful @ Jan. 21 2005,16:10) |
It will be a long time befor anyone has Hanburys because, the CO-OP own the lease and they wont let it to a food shop, Peacocks was blocked by other clothes shops in Marple and so was the furniture shop that was going to lease it. |
I spoke to someone from the planning/development dept at the Co-op re the Hanburys site. She is due to call me back towards the end of the week/early next week and has confirmed the Co-op are aware of the situation. I'll keep you posted.
Apologies thought it would be obvious-the proposed sale of the site to a retailer as the preferred option.
Yes they own the store-proposed to let it out to another retailer but will do my best to speak to them re other options-the letter from the council suggests if there is another site we have an argument against planning. The Hanburys store also has 2 floors and is fairly large so is an option at least-nothing to say it will be a goer though but worth a shot.
Hi who's ESP ???
Hanburys is another long-term topic on this site, do a search from the forum home page for Hanburys to get some background.
In summary, the Co-op lease the building and keep it closed to stop a competing business setting up in there. They kept it empty for years but eventually gave in to pressure and started the electrical shop - it always looked a half-hearted attempt and after recently renewing the lease for 5 years they closed it again. That's as I understand it anyway. Happy for the Co-op to state the case from their point of view and correct any misunderstandings.
I've moved all recent posts to this new thread.
I believe its a fact the coop own it.. its a fact they ve refused to lease it to anyone else. Its a fact that its spent several years empty regardless of interest in leasing it from other businesses. Its a presumption based on strong factual evidence that they do it on purpose to stop competition :D
Duke...why do you keep saying that a supermarket where Hanburys used to be has already failed?
Anyone who was living local when Hanburys used to be there will tell you that it was popular and well used. It is a mystery why Hanburys disappeared.
If it became a supermarket again, it would be healthy competition for the co-op and its right in the centre of Marple and people could be really cheeky and use the co-op car park.
Duke...why do you keep saying that a supermarket where Hanburys used to be has already failed?
Anyone who was living local when Hanburys used to be there will tell you that it was popular and well used. It is a mystery why Hanburys disappeared.
If it became a supermarket again, it would be healthy competition for the co-op and its right in the centre of Marple and people could be really cheeky and use the co-op car park.
I see that the last post from 2005, which appears to be from the Letting Agent's notice, has the clause:
USER RESTRICTION
No part of the property shall be used as a supermarket.
Looks like the Co-op are intent on keeping their stranglehold on Marple.
I see that the last post from 2005, which appears to be from the Letting Agent's notice, has the clause:
USER RESTRICTION
No part of the property shall be used as a supermarket.
Looks like the Co-op are intent on keeping their stranglehold on Marple.
The earlier post suggests it was the surrounding shops that made that request. Fair enough, do Bargain Booze or the Fruit & Veg shop really want a supermarket there.
Your right Barbara, I remember it also. I heard that M&Co were concerned about competition and as the co-op own both buildings said NOOOOOO to Peacocks
A few years ago a firm (I think Peacocks) were going to open up where Hanbury's had been. They even advertised for staff. This suddenly disappeared - no idea why, but wonder if M & Co opposed it?
Well if nothing else MARPLE IN ACTION has been instrumental in putting pressure on to the coop to let the old Handburys be used. So hot off the press is the news that the Coop head office have contacted me to say that the unit is now split into two and a new independant Cafe is to open soon in one half of the unit and the other half of the unit is being actively marketed. TESCO, ASDA OR WHOEVER We have an alternative site to the college please contact the MARPLE IN ACTION HOT LINE ;D
I think the last post by miss m was a tongue in cheek statement.Up and at em' Miss m.Well if nothing else MARPLE IN ACTION has been instrumental in putting pressure on to the coop to let the old Handburys be used. So hot off the press is the news that the Coop head office have contacted me to say that the unit is now split into two and a new independant Cafe is to open soon in one half of the unit and the other half of the unit is being actively marketed. TESCO, ASDA OR WHOEVER We have an alternative site to the college please contact the MARPLE IN ACTION HOT LINE ;D
Miss M, it wont wash with any prospective supermarket. The site just will not work, too close to the coop, no car park within a trolly push and now half the size.
The hope you have is to get M&co to move across to the site and for the M&Co + upstairs to be made available as retail space.
Blimey Duke ! Give us a chance ! we do have full time employment as well ! :D
Well if nothing else MARPLE IN ACTION has been instrumental in putting pressure on to the coop to let the old Handburys be used. So hot off the press is the news that the Coop head office have contacted me to say that the unit is now split into two and a new independant Cafe is to open soon in one half of the unit and the other half of the unit is being actively marketed. TESCO, ASDA OR WHOEVER We have an alternative site to the college please contact the MARPLE IN ACTION HOT LINE ;D
Not much seems to be happening with the old Hanburys building even though the Coop said they were activly marketing it I think the Coop need to be realistic and stop hiding their head in the sand and get this building rented to someone.
Not much seems to be happening with the old Hanburys building even though the Coop said they were activly marketing it I think the Coop need to be realistic and stop hiding their head in the sand and get this building rented to someone.Like who .suggest .
WOW!!
UNDER OFFER TO COSTA ?
http://www.shopproperty.co.uk/pdf/40004500594BQDI.pdf?id=eab588713644422e8c7d0ce3bff1b28c (http://www.shopproperty.co.uk/pdf/40004500594BQDI.pdf?id=eab588713644422e8c7d0ce3bff1b28c)
Yes MIA reported this sometime back
The plans are that now the building is split in half Costa will have half the building and the other half is being actively marketed. Unless things have changed , but that's what MIA was informed by Coop head office nearly 3 months ago !
Sorry Tricky it was on a different thread under Hanburys you heard it first on the Web :-* What A TEAM ?Yes MIA reported this sometime back
The plans are that now the building is split in half Costa will have half the building and the other half is being actively marketed. Unless things have changed , but that's what MIA was informed by Coop head office nearly 3 months ago !
Hmm.. did MIA post that info on here? you'll have to show me where Miss M.
I did a search on the forum and couldn't find any mention of Costa taking 'Hanbury's' space.. or anyone
anyhow, the actual information is now provided, along with all plans/drawings etc.
Tricky In Action.. ;
It's here ! :-*I'd hardly class Costa as a Independent Cafe. Must be a big threat to the existing "Independent" cafes.
It's here ! :-*I'd hardly class Costa as a Independent Cafe. Must be a big threat to the existing "Independent" cafes.
The same, surely. They both do a decent cup of coffee, after all. :P
Yes, but Starbucks is one of those retail organisations often cited negatively by the anti globalisation / anti capitalist lobby. Others would include the big 4 supermarkets but especially Tesco (due to it's buying power and perceived ethics) and Asda (due to the Walmart ownership), McDonalds, KFC etc. There are definite strong connotations with a Starbucks arriving in your town.
It's striking how far this message has seeped into the consciousness of many. You hear lots of people saying 'I'd not like a Tesco/Asda in Marple but an Aldi or a Waitrose would be great'. I don't get it personally...
What is interesting from the Co-Op's point of view is that by splitting the large unit into two, one becoming the coffee shop and the other still available, they ensure that what is left is certainly not big enough to provide any competition for themselves.
Yes MIA reported this sometime back
The plans are that now the building is split in half Costa will have half the building and the other half is being actively marketed. Unless things have changed , but that's what MIA was informed by Coop head office nearly 3 months ago !
Hmm.. did MIA post that info on here? you'll have to show me where Miss M.
I did a search on the forum and couldn't find any mention of Costa taking 'Hanbury's' space.. or anyone tbf.
anyhow, the actual information is now provided, along with all plans/drawings etc.
Tricky In Action.. ;)august 4 . miss marple posted re hanburys site .
There are not enough hours in the day for me at the moment,But if you would like to protest eventhough it's probably too late, I'm sure lots of people will support you!
Yes MIA reported this sometime back
The plans are that now the building is split in half Costa will have half the building and the other half is being actively marketed. Unless things have changed , but that's what MIA was informed by Coop head office nearly 3 months ago !
Hmm.. did MIA post that info on here? you'll have to show me where Miss M.
I did a search on the forum and couldn't find any mention of Costa taking 'Hanbury's' space.. or anyone tbf.
anyhow, the actual information is now provided, along with all plans/drawings etc.
Tricky In Action.. ;)august 4 . miss marple posted re hanburys site .
I don't think the Co-op could compete with another supermarket within the 'retail zone' and potentially we could end up with yet another empty (and very prominent) retail space.
If the Co-Op decided to vacate their current site it wouldn't be empty for long before Tesco, Asda or Sainsburys moved in. It's a prime location for a supermarket and there's room to expand it into a bigger store too.
And what do they do with the site on Hibert lane leave it empty .If the Co-Op decided to vacate their current site it wouldn't be empty for long before Tesco, Asda or Sainsburys moved in. It's a prime location for a supermarket and there's room to expand it into a bigger store too.
This seems a good idea. Tesco, Asda, Sainsburys or whoever buys the Co-op's current site and the Co-op buys the site on Hibbert Lane. Then the College gets its money, we get a decent supermarket in the centre of Marple and there won't be any traffic problems on Hibbert Lane!